The Mama T's talanoa with two of our Pacific Ocean champions, Rose Kautoke and Bill Waqalevu. 

Bill is Senior Researcher (PhD) at Yas SeaWorld Research & Rescue in Abu Dhabi and Rose Kautoke, Senior Crown Counsel, Head of the Legal Advice and International Law Division, Attorney General's Office and ocean law advocate. 

They share insights into the work they do in policy and science for our oceans and navigating leadership roles in those spaces.