Up on Game: Hour 1 - Caleb Williams, Desean Jackson

Published Dec 28, 2024, 7:16 PM

LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress discuss whether the Bears have to hire Ben Johnson in order to get Caleb Williams’ career on track, the trend of former players being hired to coach as Desean Jackson looks to be headed to Delaware State, Sam Darnold’s future with the Minnesota Vikings, and more!

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Happy Saturday to everybody out there. This is up on Game. It's a big weekend, a lot of sports going on, a lot of conversations.

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We'll get to Deshaun Jackson and well what he's got going on and what he's got in common with Coach Prime and another fella that has a very very big name, uh former teammate as well. Love Deshaun Jackson, Mike Vick.

We'll get to that.

We'll talk some well what's going on in the great state of Texas. You'll be interested to hear the takes on that. But right now, before we get to it, and talking about Caleb Williams and.

Going into Chicago. Yeah, I ask my guys, how y'all doing, man, how y'all feeling today?

Man?

Man, what's going on?

How yall?

You know?

Man?

You know we were good. You know, we got cleared. We don't have guys, but we still got the palm. N. It isn't great today, but that's it can't be great every day. Now, stop complaining in southern calm.

Yeah, raining hill, a little sleet, little snow like the past two or three days. So you know it's so foggy out man. You can't even see across the street. So I don't want to hear about you guys talking about the weather. I had to wake up at six forty five and take my daughter to basketball practice on a Saturday.

Who practices on a Saturday team?

You know what?

Nonetheless, man, I'm here and uh, you know, a little happy, a little bit of sweet little man is off to South Bend tomorrow.

All right. You know, man went on, mad Man went on what days ago?

Yeah, gone, so to usher usher him out the door, man, and so uh that day you have it.

It is, it's.

Kind of feeling, man.

It's like like, dang, man, my baby's getting up out of here. Like I like it, but I don't like it.

And you've already gone through it two times over tej Yeah, man, and you just.

Had her graduate. You had to graduate.

Well, one graduated last week and then my other baby she graduated two years ago.

Okay, okay, what she has one of the dopest names in the history of dope names, by the way. You know, I don't know how you came up with it, but you know, I appreciate the love and respect that you offered my way in naming her.

You know what, I mean, see that's all. You know what I mean. Shouts out to my homegirl Carrington. You know me. One of the dopest names all the time.

A name that well is ringing bells and continuing the ring bells is a name by the name of Ben Johnson. We had this interesting conversation on two Pros and a Cup of Joe, and I'm interested to get your guys' opinion on it. O Cho Sinko speaking of Ben Johnson, he had some interesting things to say about Ben Johnson and what his role could be in well helping out one Caleb Williams. I had this to say. I'm curious as to what you guys think as it applies to what's going on in Chicago and with Caleb Williams. Just take a listen to this, and then I want to get y'all's opinion, your takes on this. Let me tell you something. They better be glad this isn't a longer season because they could have ruined and maybe they have I don't know, but they are on the fringe of ruining Caleb Williams in one season?

Why wait for two?

One?

They almost get it looks like they've almost gotten it. Done in one season.

Do you remember that when this team was four and two with the chance to bat down a hail Mary to go to five and two. Yes, and instead they've lost ten straight since that moment.

But that was fresh off of Bye. I digress.

You made a statement saying in one year's time, they're gonna wreck Killer Williams. Has this one year in Chicago been worse than Bryce experience last year in Carolina?

Oh, it's close. I'm not going to say it is. I will say this.

I think the world expected way more from Caleb Williams right there. Cut it off. In totality, you could cut there. I think it's a different scenario. You look at Caleb Williams versus Bryce Young, It's like Bryce got in Carolina.

Cut it off. He's undersize, like you see him, come out?

Can this little dude?

You know the Carolina Panthers, they were going through some things. I just think that the Chicago Bears, the market, the history of the organization, how much fanfare was surrounding Caleb Williams and all.

Of the hype.

I think in totality, this is way worse.

We are witnessing a can't miss, a generational talent compared to to Patrick Mahomes. Tesla go down like it's bad. All right, well done, Okay, that's wow. We didn't need the whole sound bite. But here's here's the point of of what was stated. Have the Chicago Bears ruined Caleb Williams? Now, some people came out and we're saying that Caleb Williams wasn't good enough to have been ruined in the first place. I think that's cap If you ask me, I think he's a he definitely is a generational talent. I think that is used too lightly fellas anymore. I think if a guy's good or he wins the Heisman, all of a sudden, we start to act like this is a generational talent.

I don't.

I don't necessarily believe that because I don't believe that the Heisman Trophy winner is always the best player. You know, and I always go back to our year. You know, I was looking back at the rankings of players when we were coming out in two thousand.

I didn't know you were ranking.

You were fourth fourth highest on the list plex, which is crazy high.

You know who wasn't you know? Who wasn't to be found on that list of.

Highest rated prospects going into the two thousand draft.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Ron Day was not on that list, and he wanted the Heisman. So I don't. I don't look at things.

Like what your your your accolades are and what you've earned as ultimately being the sayal of if you're if you're the best talent. But I will say this, Caleb Williams earn't the right to be looked at in a way where it drew comparisons to Patrick Mahomes.

Now.

I feel as though he went to the wrong situation because this this Chicago Bears team, for one reason or another, is not where they need to be as an organization, and I think that ultimately decays and ruins what you see with the product of the.

Players on the field.

O Cho Sinko brought up the fact that he feels like hiring a Ben Johnson uh To to the head coaching position for of the Chicago Bears would give Caleb Williams and this Chicagigo Bears team the best opportunity to develop Caleb and put the Chicago Bears in a position where they.

Could get on track to start winning.

Do you guys agree with that, or do you see there being some other way that Caleb Williams can you know, possibly, you know, at an early stage, actually salvage his career.

Man when the Bears got rid of iber Flus, I felt like Ben Johnson, I said it weeks and weeks ago, he was the obvious candidate.

Obvious you won an offensive head coach.

The Chicago Bears have for as long as I can remember, outside of Matt Nagy, have defensive head coach, defensive head coach, defensive head coach. When you draft a quarterback number one, and had you paid Dj Moore what you pay him, you draft Roma Doonza in the first round, you trade for Keenan Allen. You need that quarterback to flourish, You need that quarterback to be developed. This is an indictment on the Chicago Bears front office organization that they felt like these coaches on the offensive side of the ball would do that. And coaching matters so much in the National Football League because they call every play of every single game offensively and defensively. Like the NBA, the players kind of freelanced. The head coach isn't calling every single play the NFL. The coaches have their hands in every play, and so the development wasn't there. There's good doctors, there's bad doctors. There's good people, there's bad people. There's good police officers, there's bad police officers. There's good football coaches. There's also bad football coaches. And that's just what he encountered in Chicago. And that's not you know, talking trash about any of them. Everybody isn't a good coach. He got stuck with some guys that aren't good coaches. Ben Johnson has shown to be creative and to be able to put a high level offense together in the National Football League year after year.

He is the by far and away obvious choice.

If you ask me all this, Pete Curroll wan to coach will Pete, you ain't coming to Chicago, buddy, you had your time. Like Ben Johnson is the obvious guy because Caleb Williams needs to be developed. This is a wasted year when you look at his development, but this year should be a learning year. Nothing is ever wasted if you take it as a lesson to get better and improve yourself. Ben Jonson is an obvious coach. Get it done.

But it's crazy how you know a young man highly towder coming out of college, and he has this one year and everybody's just ready to jump off the train and be like I told you so, he wasn't that good, you know, from a door. But I'm gonna take y'all back to nineteen ninety eight. Peyton Manning went to this league. He was three and thirteen. Peate Mannon through twenty six touchdowns and he had twenty eight interceptions in this rookie season. And I don't recall the scrutiny of Peyton Manning, of which Caleb Williams is receiving receiving right now. But I'm not saying that Caleb Manning, I mean, Caleb Williams is any stretch of what Peyton Manning was. But if you look at what's happening, the debacle at the Detroit Lions game, thirty seconds left in the game and they botched that, they fired Matt Ebersfus after that, and the tenth straight losses that the Chicago Bears have had. In nine of those games, Caleb Williams did not throw one interception. He didn't throw his first interceptions until last week against the Seattle for nine straight weeks. So there's there's something there. They have to find it. And between all the wide receivers Keenan Allen, DJ Moore and Romaduza, you bring him in, you bring over both of those guys in. You expect him those guys to, you know, just have a rapport, go on the football field and the magic happens. It doesn't happen that way. And between all those three wide receivers, they only have fifteen touchdowns between the three of them. The defense is ranked twenty fifth in the league. They're giving up three hundred and fifty points a game. So when you look at kayleb.

Fifty points.

With yours, same damn things, the same thing might as well.

Hey, you remember when we was playing, if your defense gave up three hundred yards a game, you was trash. But now teams are giving up three hundred and fifty yards a game like it's nothing. But if you want to evaluate Caleb Williams, you know, evaluate the whole situation. And just like you said, the good coaches and bad coaches. And if you're looking at if you're looking at bringing in Ben Johnson from the Detroit lines, do you think Ben Johnson is really sitting there contemplating I can go over there and try to, you know, help Kayleb Williams reach his potential, or do I stay within the division because I do not foresee Caleb Williams being a better quarterback than Jared golf Is moving down the stretch. Would you make that decision if you're Ben Johnson.

If I'm Ben Johnson, I take the opportunity and I go after offensive lineman, which I thought, you know this point was made Poles is a former offensive lineman. Why do you not start to build out your team around Caleb Williams starting with the offensive line first, which we would have to assume Ben Johnson understands it that way being around Dan Campbell as long as he's been. That's how he built out the Detroit Lions. So I think that there's enough talent if they're able to maintain those skilled positions. I think there's enough talent on this team where if you build out the trenches in Chicago and and for whatever it's worth, you know, Polls and Warren and company ownership and the mcclaskeys are if they stay out of the way and allow for a coach to come in, build it from the trenches. Out develop Caleb Williams. I believe that they can turn this thing around relatively in a short period of time.

Their draft picks have been on the offensive offensive line.

They've tried, they tried to guild it. I think they.

Get you gotta get a like instead of taking a receiver, and listen, I like a done day. Instead of getting a receiver, they should have took a tackle. They should have took a and and uh Olu Fushano was available at that point on the draft. Boar at that time.

Listen, I know it happens to be a Penn State.

I know it happens.

It happens to be a Penn Station. But he's a legit.

That's a legit offensive tackle, the most legit that was on the board at the point in time that they had to pick. I'm just saying, you're looking at a quarterback that's facing getting his ass kicked all over the field and running for his life as soon as the ball is snapped every single play. So what good is it to have those types of skilled receivers on the outside if young Buck doesn't have any time to throw the ball. It just doesn't seem to make sense to me. But That's that's my take on it. I think you got to bring in a guy who would understand it better than Ben Johnson as to how you build out of offense and an offensive line and for that matter of a team a team on the defensive side of the ball too, in the same division. I think he has to. I think he has the recipe of how to do it. So, you know, we'll see how it goes. I mean, they might not be out that, they might not have a choice.

Dan Johnson should want that. It's a head coaching job with the consensus everybody thought Kaylor Woods is the best quarterback, not some everybody thought he was the best quarterback.

And so why not take a job with at you getting mold you can.

Develop, Like, why wouldn't you like a no brainer?

Well, you know what else is a no brainer?

Listening to up on game and well, we're gonna take a break, but you know, on the other side of the break, we're going to talk about a developing trend in football.

Do you like it? Do you not like it?

Pros and cons of Well, taking a coaching job at the college level has prime made it a prime real estate deal to get a coaching job at the college football level. This is Up on Game. It's plex Coburst, It's TJ. Huschman's out of onm Levarranton and take.

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Welcome back in. This is Up on Game. We're live from the Tyraq dot com studio.

TJ.

Huchman's out as Plexico Burs. I'm LaVar Arrington. In a matter of moments, we'll be getting a sports trending update and we'll talk a little bit about, well, what's going on with the Vikings. Yeah, Sam Darnold interested to hear what that's all about. But before we go into that, let's touch on a topic that is becoming more of a trend day by day. Fellas, we've just seen the news hurt the news saw the news of d jack Deshaun Jackson accepting the coaching job for one Delaware State. Now this comes on the hills of Michael Vick accepting the job at Norfolk State. It seems to me, now you know, people say, oh, it's a trend, this is long overdue, this, that and the other. Listen, former players have been coaching and accepting coaching jobs since the beginning of time. Is absolutely nothing new and unique about a former player accepting a coaching job and going into a coaching job in the industry. In fact, it's more common. I would say that what the trend is now is big name you know, marque names, superstar names, going into the coaching industry and actually getting the jobs and getting the opportunities to coach. And I believe what we're seeing is an evolution of how universities. It could possibly transition into the NFL. In the NFL level, I'm not so certain it will, but it could happen. But certainly at the college level, Guys, we're seeing a trend. You know, from Eddie George to Dion Sanders, they all started their coaching at small schools. And we could say it, you know, historically black colleges seem to be leading the way on hiring uh these marquee brand name athletes to come coach their players.

Is this a good thing?

Is it?

Is it a bad thing? What's the pros? What's the cons? How you guys see it. I look at Dion and I'll just say very quickly, I've been around. I was around prime for a lot of his his post playing career, and what he built. He had his coaching staff basically building and growing with them since Shador and Shiloh were kids, since Pee Wee League. And you and I know that this plex you you were there as well. You know they they were practicing with All Americans at the Under Armour All American Game every year. They built relationships with the organizations that create the four or five star rankings. Deon Sanders. People may not know this, but Deon Sanders built this thing literally from grassroots all the way up. I don't know that I see that with these other guys. Do you think that they can have the type of success and create the type of buying in that Deon Sanders was able.

To go ahead? Place you got it? Go ahead? I think that they will. Man.

You know, we're talking about Mike Vick and d Shawn Jackson, who are both obviously going to be you know, offensive minded coach and coaches. And I think that's what you what these guys are going to need, you know, moving forward, speak speaking of D Jack Dshawn Jackson. Man, you look at d C DSU, let me tell you something. They were what one in ten in twenty twenty three and one and eleven in twenty twenty four. D Shawn Jackson is a better head coach that he's going to be a better head coach than winning two games this season.

And I know that for a fact.

And when you have the likes of Andy Reid, who is going to be a Hall of Fame coach, you know, working on his fourth Super Bowl, uh, coaching one of the best quarterbacks to ever play. For Andy Reid to come out and say, you know, D Jack is a is a passionate student of the game. You know, he's a leader on and off the field. And also Sean McVay, you know, coming out and being vocal and having support for D Jack when he was playing with the Rams, and what kind of person he is and what kind of you know, attitude and knowledge and wisdom he's going to bring this to the school. I mean DSU is not just one of these little HBCUs. It's a top five public historical Black college in the country. So you're looking at the trend of what obviously Dion going to Jackson State. Everybody sees what he is doing right now, like Colorado and you insert Michael Vick back home and now d Shawn Jackson, and it doesn't matter what your opinion is of these two young men. You know who they are, what they look like. They don't have certain people's validation of what a college coach should be. But when you have, you know, the athletic director Tony Tucker coming out and saying, you know what, d Shawn Jackson is the perfect fit for this intitution, not the football program. He's talking about the whole college as a whole, as an institution, not as the football program. What these two young men are going to bring to the HPCU landscape as far as you know, talent and obviously their football acumen and the players that are going to be willing to go play for them, they are going to shock a lot of.

People and and and and and.

Put a lot of these colleges and including the HPCUS on notice of how intelligent these young men are. Because you don't do not play this game at the level at a high level, and what and how they played the game. If you don't have knowledge of of of of coaching football.

That's what I'll say is both of those guys, Vic and d Jack uh friends with both of them.

I want both of them to succeed. Wish him both well.

But Prime, and we can even throw Eddie George in there, he just hadn't had the.

Instant success at Tennessee State.

And obviously the media coverage that that Prime has had at jack and State and now at Colorado. But people got to understand Prime was coaching in high school for years before he went to Jackson State. He been coaching for years boots on the ground, so to speak. So he was kind of used to the grind of, you know, being a OC in high school for a Son then going to Jackson State being the head coach and things of that nature. Also, he was a head coach slash OC.

In high school.

And so to me, the biggest key for Vic and d Jack is very simple, who gonna be your assistant coaches?

You better make.

Sure you hire guys that one understand the game first and foremost, and two can relate to the players. That's very critical because I don't care how good of a coach Vic or D Jack. Maybe if you don't have assistant coaches, because those assistant coaches are going to be spending more time with the players at their respective positions than you are, and so you want to make sure that first and foremost you have that in order. And I believe that they will because they wouldn't take this job without reaching out to some guys. Hey, I may have this opportunity, would you be willing to come coach with me?

Type thing?

I know Djack was out here in the LA area coaching high school football and so, man, this is something like when you get a chance to mentor young men, it's really hard to say no to it because you are already doing it indirectly in different ways anyway. And so now to get a chance to be around them on an every day, they have an opportunity to change some of these young boys lives, man.

Just off of conversation.

For forget the athletic part of it, just off of being a man, and because both of those guys have made some missteps in life and talking them through their experience and things that they've been through like that, right there is a game changer. And it may just be a few, however many it is they gonna change lives and to me, that's more important than anything when you come from a background like we come from to be able to give words of encouragement and change some of these young boys' lives man moving forward as they growing the men. So that to me is what I'm more excited to see. But the football part of it is going to have to be who do you hire to help you?

Yeah, there's a lot that goes into being a head coach, and it's basically being a CEO of not only the athletics, but kind of for the entire the entire institution. That's I think with something that you were touching on plex Listen, wish them the best of luck at what it is that they're.

Going to do.

It to be interesting to follow what their progress is and what they're able to do.

Let's get an.

Update from Dan Bayer and then we'll talk a little bit of Minnesota Vikings. What you got there, Dan.

Hey fellas a couple of your former teammates in the news is fifteen finalists for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame have been revealed. Eli Manning, Antonio Kates, Luke Keithley, Terrell Suggs, Marshall, Gyanda, Adam VINTERI just to name a few, Steve Smith Senior as well as finalist for the first time in his four years on the ballot. I know TJ's got to be hyped that Willie Anderson has also made it as a finalist again. We'll find out that the NFL honors on who actually makes it into the Class of twenty twenty five for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Anybody, if that's your voter, let me be a voter. Hey, you right correct.

Appreciate that, Dan, Appreciate you.

Sorry, Dan, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

Sorry, Nor was it all good? No, I just got a couple of more Thank you. Dobbins up for the Chargers to It's part of the tripleheader. James Connor is gonna go for the Cardinals tonight. Chuba Hubbard season is over at the Fenway Bowl, North Carolina right now, trailing yukon twenty forty seven.

It's all us.

He's nearing halftime Nebraska and Boston College playing in the Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium, scoreless after the first quarter, and Carson Beck's heading to the NFL drafts.

Guys.

Back to you, guys, I appreciate it. Dan, All right, before we get to this break and go into the Lash segment of this hour, which we will be talking well, what will be considered to be a hot topic, a hot button topic, but this is up on game and nonetheless, we always tackle the big conversations, even if maybe some people may shy away from it. But we're un you know, unmoved, unfazed, not scared to talk about big issue. So well, we'll talk about that. We all have daughters, so this will be an interesting conversation. But let's talk about Sam Darnold right now.

Guys.

It's an interesting position that Sam Donald and the Minnesota Vikings are in right now. He is literally playing his ass off and it's putting him in a position where he can look for top dollar in Minnesota has to make a decision on what it is that they're thinking they may want to do as it applies to this situation. In this scenario, now, I came up with three different things. You know, you keep them and how much does that cost? You trade them? And how much does that cost? Or something else that you may have came up with. How are you guys looking at this situation with Minnesota and Sam Donald.

Very simple, var very very simple one.

I can't trade him unless I franchise him, and if he signs it, then I may be stuck. That's number one. Number two is man, this is a no brainer. Like, stop over complicating.

This, man.

You see what Sam Donald is doing. You see how Sam Donald is playing. Sam Donald is my quarterback next year. I don't get a damn that I drafted JJ McCarthy.

What you really feel.

Like, no question, the way that Sam Donald has played, he is my quarterback moving forward. Thank you Sam for reaching your potential. Uh do we keep do we do we treat JJ McCarthy like the Green Bay Packers did with Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers. I don't know that's a possibility. What kind of deal do you give Sam Donald? Some people will say, oh, Sam needs to win a playoff game. Sam Donald has played extremely well this season, like one of the top ten quarterbacks in the league.

That's how well he's played all year.

Everybody fought Minnesota was going to finish last in the division. They've lost two games too, and so I'm resigning Sam Donald. I'm hoping it's not gonna cost me fifty million a year. Hopefully, of about forty five to forty eight a year, So you're okay with that, absolutely, I'm okay with Like we're in the National Football League.

They've lost two games.

Everybody talk about with the quarterback Kevin O'Connell, whether he's a quarterback, whisper, whatever he doing, he's doing the hell of a job. But you still got to get out there and execute.

Man.

Sam Donald's my quarterback. JJ McCarthy. I'm sorry. We drafted you. We planned on you being a quarterback of the future. You can be the quarterback of the distant future.

Just in the last segment, we were talking about coaching. You know who are these guys assistant coach is going to be? And for the life of me, I'm sitting here want to say to myself, Sam Donald was in San Francisco last season, he had Kyle Shanahan. Would you agree that the offense in San Francisco is a better offense than Minnesota? Not this year, but yes, I'm gonna say, I believe schematically, So why wouldn't it happen for Sam donnin and San Francisco like it is?

He didn't unity to be started.

I'm gonna tell you something I had the opportunity to play with this young man his rookie season and Kevin O'Connell when he came to the New York Jets, And a lot of people don't know this about Ko. He didn't play, didn't play a lot.

But when you're.

Talking about x'es and o's and getting up and running an offensive meeting Mark Sanchez was the starting quarterback of our football team. And there would be days where Kevin O'Connell, as the rookie, will be up on the white board breaking down the defenses and putting the.

Offices up on the bed up on the board, and he's the backup quarterback as a rookie, as a rookie.

Wow.

So that right there.

Told me enough about this young man and his i Q. And when it comes to playing quarterback and understanding defenses and being able to run an offense and this and that is the exact reason why Sam Donald is looking the way that he's looking in this offense, It's because of Kevin o'comm So, pain.

Man, what what are you going to do?

I mean, if he's that type of coach that.

I'm not breaking up, well, I'm not breaking up.

I'm not breaking up this marriage between Jordan Addison, uh, justin Jefferson and Sam Donald right now, I'm not and he should be able to do it with McCarthy, right, But why would I hope I can do it with McCarthy, But I know I can do it with Darth fair question. I'm not gonna sit here and say to myself, you know what, I know that we drafted J. J. McCarthy last year. He's coming off of a c L. We expect him to come in after missing a full NFL rookie season and and try to duplicate what Sam Donald has done this year. I don't think that the Minnesota Vikings make that decision.

It makes sense, but we'll have to see how it all plays out. That's a lot of m's that go along with the belief of what you believe Sam Darnold may do in.

The future, possible thing that could have happened to.

The Vikings well, which it's a great thing, right, So we'll wait and see how it goes. That's t J.

Hushmanza, that's Plex Cooberts. I'm LeVar Arrington. We will take a quick break. On the other side of this break, you'll want to hear what we got to talk about Yes, transgender wo that's a big one.

We're gonna talk about it.

On the other side of break, Texas is seemingly taking action and you'll find out what that action is on the other side of break.

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Just search up on Game wherever it is, you get your podcasts, and you'll see today's show. Post it right after we get off the air. All right, folks, before we get to the end of this hour. We talked earlier, well I teased it. There is a lawsuit that's taking place in Texas and it's basically the attorney Attorney General Ken Paxton, who has sued the NCAA to block the participation of transgender athletes in women's sports, arguing that it tricks and misleads fans. It was a lawsuit ouled by the State District Court in Lubbock and announced on Sunday, and argues that NCAA violates the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices at by promoting women's sports that may include a transgender athlete.

Now, we all have daughters, and.

We will, TJ.

You've already had daughters that have competed at the NCAAA level. You will have one that competes at the NCAAA level. Plex I have one that competes at the NCAAA level. And in fact, what's facing this same situation where they were going to play a team that had a transgender player. Now here's my quick take on it. If you decide that you identify with the opposite sex, I have no problem with it. If you decide that if your family is involved in it, you're not old enough where you're legal and you can make the decision on your own.

Your family's in it, that's up.

To you, guys.

If you want to change your sex, that's up to you. If you want to marry someone that is born the same sex as you, and that's what you want to do when you find love, I have absolutely no problem when the decisions are made with everybody involved having a decision and a choice in the matter. I think where I draw the line and I feel a certain type of way about it, and just not assuming that any woman are a transgender that goes into that area of participation.

I don't assume that they're all going.

To be the the best athlete and the most physically in client athlete that that changes and becomes transgender. But I will say if they are all things given, if you have the best of the best athletically that that become transgender, I just don't. I just don't see how it makes sense where the people that they're they're.

Competing against don't have a choice.

They should have the choice just like anybody else that they would marry, that that would support them getting the change of whatever it would be.

I just don't.

I don't agree with the idea that that these young ladies have to compete against somebody that they don't have the choice as to if I want to compete against somebody that was born a male versus compete against all females in the situation.

That's my two cents on it. Man, I'm gonna just make minds black and white. It's very simple. I ain't gonna go through all the dialogue you just went through. Okay, it's like this, if you are born a man and you are trying to compete against people that were born a woman or born a girl, No, we're stronger. It's an unfair advantage, Like we're bigger and we're stronger for the most part. No, And then I get it. You know you want to have surgery and you want to be a transgender person. That's perfectly fine. I agree with you on that. If that's something you want to do, that's fine. But when you do that in that sense, you cannot play sports against women when you were born a man. I believe, I believe you have an unfair advantage and it's not fair. It's not fair to the girls that are played that don't have that advantage. And so to me, I don't know what's the big deal about it. I get it, it's you're discriminating. It gets the transgender people, but I just believe they have an unfair advantage.

So for me, it's a hard No. I mean, it's not discrimination at all. I don't think. I believe what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. And for those young women that don't have a choice. Those young women are the ones that are suffering because they don't have a choice. So now you put them in a situation, those are the people that are affected by the most from a mental standpoint and from an athletical standpoint, knowing that the playing field of which they are playing in is not fair and it's not fair to them. So I'm not with it. I've never been with it, and I never will be. And kudos. If those young women had a choice, then the transgender would not be allowed to compete with them. But they don't have a choice, So kudos are those women who are fighting that battle and and and being and and being forced to go out and do what they love to do again and having an unfair advantage. Those are the people, or the young women that we should be celebrating.

It's a large topic and I'm sure it will continue to continue on. There are a lot of different angles to it. But you know what, like you said, you guys, right is right and having a choice make sense. This is up on game. This is Fox Sports Radio Hour two coming at you next

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