Up on Game: Hour 1 – 2024 NFL Awards

Published Jan 25, 2025, 7:02 PM

LaVar Arrington gives his thoughts on who will win the major 2024 NFL AP awards, how one small change would shift the winner of each award, and more!

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NFC Championship and AFC Championship weekend. We will get to those topics, but we're gonna start with this NFL Awards deal. I got kind of a theory on it, all right, since I got the opportunity to have the mic, and I'm not sharing it with TJ and Plex. They they are handling family business. Obviously, sons and daughters are doing very well in athletics, so they.

Are moving around.

But I want to talk about this trickle down effect that's going to come from the NFL Awards this year.

All right.

Now we're hearing all of the odds makers put out there for the MVP of the Year, the NFL MVP that you have the top guys being, obviously Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Saquon Barkley. Now they put out the other awards and we'll highlight those. We'll get to Offensive Player of the Award at around in twenty twenty minutes or so, we'll get to that, and we'll get to the rest of awards around like, yeah, thirty minutes or so from now Coach of the Year and the end of the hour. But for now, let's talk about the MVP award, because respectfully, I got to say this, if it's not going to a quarterback, which we understand why it goes to the quarterback, and I'll get to that at the end of my my thought here, but if it's going to the person off of pure merit, off of what this all represents, it's got.

To be Saquon Barkley. And if there were a.

Debate to say that there were an MVP outside of Sakwon Barkley that should get it, I think you got to go with Lamar Jackson on this one. And it's purely based upon huh, knowing that all of these guys are most valuable to their teams. But if we're talking about most Valuable player in the league, then all things given, all of these finalists have met the criteria of being the MVP of the league and of their team. So what differentiates them?

Right?

Let me think about this, Right, I thought about it. I put it down and it was like, you got to look at it from this perspective, right, sa Kwon Barkley would have should have could have broke the coveted forty year old record held by Eric Dickerson. That's the single season rushing record. Now, when you think about it, we're talking about an award for a single season. So how would it be possible? How would it be possible in a league where football Keep in mind, they promote what teamwork? What else did they promote? They promote camaraderie, They promote sacrifice and service and selflessness, all these strong values and beliefs that the NFL has built their reputation on. If that's the case, all things given, don't we look at Sakuon Barkley not breaking the record as being more impactful than him.

Breaking the records? Right?

And if I'm a voter, do not have to look at this in terms of what Saquon Barkley could have accomplished in this season had he not been a selfless person. It just made me think about it. Right, You get to the point of where you see a player basically exercise in the moment of truth. His teammate's success, his team's success, his community's success were more to him than his own personal success. His efforts are the reason why the Philadelphia Eagles are in this game tomorrow. His numbers state the truth. The fact of the matter is he put this team on his back and their success has run through them. So when you look at a most valuable player of the league, everything everything that is connected to, say Kwon Barkley screams the most valuable player in this league. In fact, why Yata, why don't you throw out there the Walter Payton Man of the Year. Who else has served their team, their community and the league in the way that Sakwon Barkley has in the most flattering manner. He has done everything correctly. This is not me being a Saquon Barkley apologist.

This is not me.

You know, everybody knows he's a Penn Stater. I'm a Penn Stater. This is not me being a pro biased Penn State former football player ringing the bell for Sakuon Barkley. All I'm saying is, just take a good look at it when you think about it, if it's not Sakuon Barkley, Because.

How would a voter.

Not vote for Sakuon Barkley had he broke that forty year old record.

You can't do it.

You cannot justify one of the greatest records in the history of football. That would be like justifying not giving a quarterback who broke the single season season passing record the.

MVP of the league. It doesn't work that way.

And to that point, we'll get into some stats and you know, we'll back it up with some numbers.

To that point, if it's not going.

To Sakuon bark if the award does not go to Sakuon Barkley, then why would it not go to one or two other players? And this is no shade to Josh Allen, but why would the most Valuable Player of the league not go to one Lamar Jackson or one Joe Burrow. That's right, Joe Burrow's name isn't even on the final list list. Do you realize that Joe Burrow through for more yards than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson? Do you realize that Joe Burrow threw for more touchdowns than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Most would say most would debate the struggles of the Cincinnati Bengals was purely based upon their inability to stop an offense from scoring points.

I don't think.

Anyone would come to the table and say it was not because of some of the most brilliant, stellar play at the quarterback position by one Joe Burrow. His quarterback rating was oneh eight. And we'll get into all of that because you know, this is real interesting because there's a trickle down effect on these awards because well, and what seemingly is going to develop into who's going to get what awards. We saw that Josh Allen's name wasn't included an Offensive Player of the Year. Hint hint, spoiler alert. His name was not included. So you get the idea that Josh Allen's going to win the MVP of the League award, and then it's going to fall down on well, well, we'll talk about in the next segment. Sakwon Barkley will win the Offensive Player of the Year award, which is a Constellation prize, a consolation prize to winning the MVP award as the league's MVP. And then we'll get into who I believe should win that award. But we'll get up to the end. Like I said, Noon twelve twenty, for all of all on the East Coast, it's just I wanted to give you guys a thought process here, like something to think on if we're going with a quarterback because obviously it's more important. It's not the meritocracy of how you play the game at the league level. It's all about driving the value all the way up as high as you can behind one singular position in the league, and that's the quarterbacks position. So at some point there has to be an admission of this is a quarterbacks award, not a league wide award. We don't see defenders being in the mix of winning the award. Even though we have had, you know, a guy like the likes of Lawrence Taylor win the award before, we have not seen any defenders make any real appearances on the list, and you don't see any other player besides quarterbacks win the award, which is very interesting because then you make the de facto award the offensive player of the year. It's like everybody else you could get this award, but the MVP of the league belongs with the quarterback. I feel like it would make more sense to just tell your listening and viewing audience that that's what it is, so we can stop having these debates, because it seems silly to have to debate something that was accomplished by Sakwon Barkley in this particular moment, in this instance where the greatness of what he brought to this season you may not see for another what forty years, thirty years, you may not see this brilliance happen again, And yet it won't be rewarded properly in the way that it should be rewarded, which is being deemed the most valuable NFL player in the league. That's my take on it, and well, you know, you can agree, you could disagree. I got the microphone, so it doesn't matter. It's my take, and we get to run with it. That is the first segment down. It's in the books. We're gonna take a quick break, and on the other side of the break, we're gonna talk about, Yeah, Saquan is gonna win the Offensive Player of the Year award, but the question is should he who should win it, and why they should win it? And I just tell you this spoiler alert, it ain't Josh Allen either. So the MVP of the league, perceivably that's gonna be crowned and named this year, shouldn't even be the Offensive Player of the Year. And I'm gonna tell you why. On the other side of this break, it's up on Game. I'm LeVar Arrington, TJ and Plex are out.

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I'm gonna carry you for the next two hours. Stay locked in, stay tuned in. We'll talk a little bit more football.

On the other side of this break.

All right, welcome back into the show. This is up on Game. We are alive from the tyraq dot Com studio. LeVar Arrington. I will be carrying you by myself today because the fellas are handling some family matters. So good luck and enjoy all those those things that y'all got going on in the sporting world and the sporting community. And speaking of sporting community, we're going to keep this trickle down effect going, the NFL awards trickle down effect. We'll get to the rest of the awards and just maybe ten minutes or so, we'll say we'll call in, then we'll talk Coach of the Year to in out the hour, and then we'll get into these NFL previews that I'm sure everybody's really excited to see and watch. But let's talk about Saquon Barkley. All Right, we said he should win. I say he should win the NFL MVP Awards. So now how does that play a part in the Offensive Player of the Year award. Obviously I believe my pick. So so far my pick for NFL MVP is going to be Josh Allen. Then the trickle down effect because Saquon Barkley does not get what he should get in getting the MVP of the League, he gets the Offensive Player of the Year award, which is now very interesting because everything is now topsy turvy in terms of who really should get these awards because now you have the MVP of the Award of the Year getting the Offensive Player of the Year award, which now knocks out three other guys that should be getting this award should be in debate, up for debate who gets this award in particular, and it does not include Josh Allen.

Where am I going with this?

Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, who I just mentioned in the first first segment.

And Derrick Henry.

Okay, so now you look at these three Sakuan's going to take that. So three of those guys they will not get at that award. So why do I say Henry, Why do I say Jackson? Why do I say Burrow and not Josh Allen? Well, think about this, both, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow had better years than Josh Allen.

Josh Allen's passer rating.

One oh one point four, Joe Burrow's one oh eight point five, Lamar Jackson's one nineteen point six. That's a high passer rating. That's super impressive. Oh. Culminated with four thousand, one hundred and seventy two yards and forty one touchdowns to Josh Allen's three thousand, seven hundred and thirty one yards and twenty eight touchdowns.

That's a very very real difference. Oh. By the way, Joe Burrow.

Four thousand, nine hundred and eighteen yards and forty three tds, talk to me, because I'm trying to understand it. The only reason why Lamar Jackson stands up to Joe Burrow for the award would be because of Lamar Jackson's nine hundred and fifteen rushing yards during the course of the season. Nine hundred and fifteen rushing yards as a quarterback. Now, where does Dereck Henry come into the scenario here? Because I think Derrick Henry should be strongly considered for the award.

He ran for.

Nineteen one hundred and twenty one yards in the A FC North.

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Forty one touchdowns or excuse me, excuse me, not forty one touchdowns because that's that's uh Lamar Jackson. But in terms of touchdowns he had eighteen in seventeen games. So when I look at the impact of Derrick Henry on this Baltimore Ravens offense, one would say, your first read has to be one run against the Baltimore Ravens. Which now that is not the case across the league. This is a pass first league. So the first thing you have to do in this game against this team is you have to play the run. The second thing you have to do is you have to pinpoint who is the biggest threat upon reading the run. That's going to be Derrik Henry. You may think it's Lamar Jackson, but it ain't. It's Derrick Henry. And that moment of trying to figure out is Derek Henry getting the ball on that RPO play and Lamar Jackson pulls it out and goes down the field and gets up to nine hundred just shy of thousands, just north of one thousand yards rushing. I would have to say this being Lamar Jackson's best year statistically in total yards, going over five thousand yards in total yards. This is a direct and I mean a direct result of Derrick Henry's presence on this team. Five eighty seven yards it was. Now, if you're telling me that they get that Lamar Jackson impacts his team with that amount of yards without Derrick Henry on the roster, I'd say it's a foolish assertion. But when you look at the impact that Dereck Henry was able to have on this team and the success he was able to have, that to me makes it a very very strong case for him to be up for the Offensive Player of the Year award. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it. So if it's not Lamar Jackson in the phenomenal year that he had statistically, which we'll say is based upon the arrival and the participation of Derrick Henry, if it's not Lamar Jackson, then it has to be Joe Burrow. You cannot hold Joe Burrow accountable fully for a defense that gave up more touchdowns than you could shake a stick at. In him trying to win games, his defense did not hold up the bargain for him. So we're going to continue to trickle down effect, right because at the end of the day, we'll get to Joe Burrow. He is going to get an award. He is going to get an award. I believe he'll get an award, and we'll talk about that because it's a part of the rest of the awards. Yeah, but Saquon Barkley will win the Offensive Player of the Year award, that is for certain. And why you wouldn't include Josh Allen and Jared Gov's name in the final list lists versus putting you know, Chase and putting you know obviously Saquon and Derrick Henry. I just think that I don't know, it's confusing if you ask me, it just comes across as a tap bit confusing because ultimately the most valuable player on the offensive side of the ball, Well, I just highlighted.

It for you.

If you were looking at it from a stats standpoint, then it should be Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow. If we're looking at it from a total stats standpoint in terms of the assistance and the amount of success that this player had and what that did to impact another player that played at such a high level and put up such high numbers, and you got to look at Derek Henry as the clear favorite to be the most impactful if not Saquon Barkley. And the only reason why I would say not Saquon Barkley is because obviously I felt like he should win the larger award, which now brings you back to the original point of aren't you trying to figure out how josh Allen is going to be the National Football Player of the Year, the MVP? I know I am? I know I am, because there's nothing that says outside of a totally subjective approach, a total emotional approach, to why Josh Allen should win. There really is nothing that is in favor of him outside of what would be considered to be an emotional investment as to why this young man should win the award.

I don't know. I think I do.

I think that's a pretty good take on it, because well, I feel like the facts kind of stay out on their own.

He's the third.

Best statistically by quarterback rating this year, third best to Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson terms in those categories we're speaking of, So I don't know, so are we considering Josh a better leader than Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson. Are we looking at the record and saying that the record because that doesn't distinguish it either. What are we looking at that sets Josh Allen apart to be the MVP of the league? And I think that that's the question that well, you'll have to answer on your own. But he nonetheless is my pick for the MVP of the league, and Sakwon Barkley will be your Offensive Player of the Year. We'll get to the rest of the awards, Comeback Player, Defensive Player, Offensive Rookie, Defensive Rookie. We'll get to those on the other side of this break. But let's get a trending from our guy, Isaac Lohingcrow. How you doing, sir? Do I sound crazy?

I low? Or do I mean like I'm making some vallid points here?

You sound crazy most of the time, but actually not.

Like that, Oh dann, so try harder.

So how do you like flying solo?

That's cool, it's cool.

It gives me an opportunity to kind of say what's on my mind a little bit and get a little bit more deeper in the weeds. You know, get off of the surface a little bit.

You know you're doing great. I'm joining it.

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Did not say that, fellas, I know, I know I did not say that.

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That's a good point.

I mean, we're like Facebook, we're Facebook friends, right because I see you posting every five minutes about your Penn Staker.

There you go, love it about Penn State.

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Appreciate it a loo? All right?

That's an interesting update. There's some nice little sound effects you had there.

Uh.

Rest of the awards all right? So here comes the continued on trickle down effect. Who do we believe should get the Comeback Player of the Year award?

Do you wanna? Do you want to take a stab at it? Perfect?

Do you want take a stab at it, bo do you do? You guys want to take a stab at who should get the Comeback Player of the Year.

Somebody? Yeah, Sam Darnell.

I think I think that's pretty much the answer at this point. Like the Sam Darnald considering how written off his career had been, and I look, we we understand Week eighteen and in the playoffs after that was bad, But I don't think that erasist seventeen good games of performance from him.

Yeah, especially since the voting is not supposed to count for the postseason, regular season just supposed to be taking a consideration. I'm biased, but I would like to throw in a vote, even though I don't think he's nest throw in JK.

Dobbins.

Hmm, that's an interesting one.

You know who I think is going to receive this award as a as a just kind of adore prize, because you know what, why would we not give you any awards when you had an amazing, an amazing, amazing season.

Joe Burrow.

Think about it, Joe Burrow should be considered the comeback Player of the Year and should receive the ward. And if he does get it, if I am right, it's the losers. It's the losers a bonus award for the year. So now you've taken Comeback Player of the Year and you made it, you made it like a joke. Because Joe Burrow should be in the mix for these other awards.

He's not going to get it.

So if you're going to give him the Comeback Player of the War because he did come back and he did ball his ass off this year, then now you've bumped one Sam Darnold back, which I guess you could call him a comeback. He's considered it, he's on the list, he's considered to be a comeback player. I mean, I guess he's coming back from being a bench warmer. I'm not really sure what he's coming back from. Do you guys know what exactly what he's coming back from, because I don't really know what he's coming back from. Yeah, I don't know either. And so with that being said, I almost feel like you gotta go with Joe Burrow as your comeback Player of the Year. He came back, he played well, and his numbers don't lie. So I tend to look at where Joe Burrow is and what he's been able to accomplish and I feel like he should be the hands down favored to get it.

Now.

I don't even think he's on there. I don't even think he's up for consideration. But that's my that's my opinion. I don't know.

Is he on there? Is he on the list?

Joe Burrow on the Lissa, Yes he is, Actually it is. It's Burrow Donald Dobbins.

Which there you go.

The Hamlin's a very interesting one.

I feel like they're just going to keep putting his name in there until he eventually wins one.

But hmm, interesting I find out to be interesting. I mean, there's certainly to me, there's no Sam Darnald is the only one on the list that I would say stands up to Joe Burrow. And if Joe Burrow is up for a different award and is able to possibly some way win it, then it should go to Sam Darnald. But if Joe Burrow doesn't get any of the other awards above that one, I think that it goes to Joe Burrow. That's what I think.

It's the Loser's Award this year is the Comeback Player.

I believe they had changed some of the wording on comeback Player of the Year too. It just had to be returning to sport after injury, illness or other circumstances.

So I think in that case, Burrow is the one who kind of.

Fits that mold the best, definitely more than Sam Donald, because I guess by that definition, nothing really there is Sam Darnald overcoming.

He's just overcoming, you know, being a backup. Stuck. Yeah, stuck in in in a QB purgatory for so long.

Yeah, a backup is what it is.

Okay, he was haunted, Yeah, he's haunted.

He was.

He was saying, No, that's why Autumn Picks was taking place. Casper was taking it. It was swiping him. All right, Let's move on to defensive player of the year. All right, Defensive player of the year. It's obviously between Watt and Certain the second. Here's why I say it's hard to go with Pat certain the second, even though his his season has been brilliant, all right, because it's just hard it's hard to to monetize or or not monetize, but kind of quantify how big of an impact he had. I know that the numbers say, you know, the fifty percent lower than sixty percent when quarterbacks go his way, and you know he takes away your best receiver.

It's hard.

It's hard to look at it when it doesn't show up all the way in the stats.

If you guys know what I mean, Like.

Four interceptions doesn't scream you had the type.

Of year that.

Would call for you to be the defensive rookie of the year. There have been plenty of dbs, you know, Champ Bailey comes to mind, there have been a Darrel Reeves comes to mind. There have been guys that have locked down and shut down sides of a field to help their team. It's just hard to put where the value of it is.

How high do you take it up?

Whereas when I look at what JJ Watt has done, fourteen tackles for a loss is cool razy. That's a crazy statistic because in reality, you can count a tackle for a loss. It's no different than a sack. You've put stress and the rest on the offense by stopping them behind their own line of scrimmage. Not to mention what you got to be doing as a player, especially a highlighted player like TJ Watt and being able to get to the ball carrier in the backfield.

It's kind of crazy. And his sack totals.

Sack totals are super high.

I mean, he's double digits. Guy.

I just don't I just don't know how you can take and say, well, he locked down there one receiver. They didn't throw the ball his way much, but when they did, they didn't do very well when they threw it his way. Oh, but he only had four interceptions. I think his interception totals needed to be higher if it was going to be a legitimate He's getting it over what TJ.

Watt has done.

So if I'm picking for Defense Player of the Year, I look at TJ. Watt and I say he's got to be the one that wins it. Unless you were looking at pat Certain and the turnaround of this Denver Broncos team, and you're saying the sole catalyst of why this team turned around the way that it did and was able to accomplish at the level that it did was based upon Patricks Certain's influence on the whole team, which I mean that would be up for debate. Obviously, Rookie of the Year for offense, no debate there. Jaydon Daniels is the guy that's going to get it. He's the most deserving of it, and he's he turned out to be what appears to be the generational talent that's come out in the last few drafts at the quarterbacks position.

It looks as though he's just different.

And for that, I mean, I think it's a foregone conclusion that you look at Jayden and Daniels.

As you're a rookie of the year. Can somebody else argue it?

I mean, Jayden Daniel's gonna win plenty of deserving. That's I think. When a rookie comes in and is immediately the best player at their position, okay, their name should be mentioned more. Okay, I think it's Brock Bowers, to be honest with.

You, Brock Bowers is a great name, not qu a quarterback.

Tighten in football already is a rookie. I think if Jaydon Daniels didn't win twelve games this year, you'd see a lot more steam for Brock Powers. But I think he deserves a little more shine than he's gonna get given given the Daniels is gonna run away with this reward.

I mean, I don't have any any problem with Brock Bowers being a name that's thrown out there and debate it, but nonetheless, it's Jaydon Daniels. It's Jaydon Daniels by a landslide, not even close now, but one that isn't a landslide and will be close.

Who wins Defensive Rookie of the Year? Is it Fisk or is it Verse? I don't know.

Fisk had more sacks, Verse had more tackles. Who had more impact? It's hard to say. It's hard to say, but wow, you had both of them on the same team, which is pretty cool. I think if I gotta go with it and make a hard decision on what I really really feel based off of impact, it's gotta be Fisk. It's gotta be Fisk that gets it because to do what he is able to do, be as versatile as he is, the impact that he's brought to that defensive line I think is probably unmatched even by Verse along the entire throughout the entire league. So I'm gonna go with Fisk as as the guy that's going to win the Rookie Defensive Player of the Year. Brandon Fisk. We're gonna take a quick break on the other side of it. We're going to talk Coach of the year. There's a strong case to be made for Campbell. But should it be someone else, we'll talk about that. We'll come right back. All right, this is Up on Game. I'm LeVar Arrington. We're gonna take a quick break as Fox Sports Radio. All right, yeah, huh, We welcome back, Y'all's Up on Game. We live from the tyrack dot com studios.

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We're going to talk the previews of the game at the start of the next hour, So we're going to get into those things, and just a matter of well ten minutes or so, we're going to talk NFC first and get down to business with that man. We'll talk some Bill Belichick, too before we wrap up the show. But right now, Coach of the Year, all right, Now, obviously, the Minnesota Vikings have had an amazing year.

Against all odds, right.

They were able to have one of the more impressive seasons in Minnesota history with Sam Darnold. Now, we don't know if it was going to be JJ McCarthy. I think we all know that we don't think that it would have lasted being Sam Donald if he had been the one.

To start off the season.

But that is, you know, just kind of an opinion that's not based off of fact. What is fact is that Sam Donald had an amazing year as a journeyman QB and throwing for over four thousand yards and thirty five tds and a passer rating over one hundred and that one oh six point four. This was one of the most impressed coaching jobs in the National Football League.

And I think that's without a doubt.

Now, with that being said, Dan Campbell and I don't think it's even arguable Dan Campbell most likely possibly, I don't know that it does happen, but with what he's had to overcome to achieve what he's achieved this season, especially knowing that you don't include the playoffs. I'm just saying if i'm if I'm a voter. While I was very impressed. While I was very impressed with what Minnesota was able to do, one Dan Campbell overcame more so who had more? Do you have to off the top of your head, because I know you're a big, a big Lions fan and that's your team and everything, perfet What do you know the list of, offhand, how many guys he had go go out for the season.

It's more than I can count on my hand.

Wow, I hands plural, I should say, And I know definitely among defensive starters you had lost like Aiden Hutchinson.

Otis heel that was the defensive player of the year right there.

And multiple multiple weeks after he had gone out.

How he was still a leader in sacks first first for the NFL, but then for the Lions team. You know they they had massive turnover at the linebacker unit as well, Like that front seven was massively decimated through the year. Carlton Davis leaves for the year with a broken jaw. Like I get the arguments for Kevin O'Connell, but I think you look around there and see what Dan Campbell did with that team and also Coach of the Year. Is also about meeting expect I know sometimes we don't give enough credit to coaches for meeting expectations, but Dan Campbell's Lions did also with all of this happening, win fifteen games, win the NFC North, and a first round by on top of everything, it seems crazy. I feel like I want to give some love to Dan Quinn for how he's turned around the commander's job.

I love that. I love that one. Yeah, that's it. That's a name to throw in there.

I know O'Connell is like probably the top pick, but I'd either take Campbell or Quinn one of the two.

Dans in my mind.

Had him on my list, had had him on my list of coaches. Obviously, what he's done in Washington has been amazing. But if I'm making the pick, I think it's gonna be Dan Campbell that gets it. But we may see O'Connell get it. Anyways, it's our one. It's Fox Sports Radio that's up on Game Hour two, coming at you next