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Sitting with us at the table. We have Jowan and Shannon Johnson. Enjoy our conversation. Come on to say, take a seat, get comfortable because it's time to stay a while. I'm your host, Tommy Vincent and we are talking with Joan and Shannon Johnson. You guys doing Thank you. Yes, I appreciate you all taking a seat and having a conversation with me. And as we talked about before we got into this conversation that here at this table, we are invested in who you are and why.

You do what you do and how you do what you do.

You do what you do and how you do what you do.

So my first question out the gate, and I'm going to start with you, Shannon love It.

So my first question out the gate, and I'm going to start with you, Shannon love It.

Who is Shannon Man? Who am I? I'm a daughter, a wife, a creator.

Who is Shannon Man? Who am I? I'm a daughter, a wife, a creator.

There's so many things. The most important right now my sweet baby girl. I'm a mom right now now.

There's so many things. The most important right now my sweet baby girl. I'm a mom right now now.

It's the best. We have a seven month old absolutely loving motherhood. It's amazing. But yeah, life's fun, yeah for sure.

It's the best. We have a seven month old absolutely loving motherhood. It's amazing. But yeah, life's fun, yeah for sure.

Yeah. Uh for myself, I always like to point out that I'm a served.

Yeah. Uh for myself, I always like to point out that I'm a served.

With christ.

With christ.

I think if we forget that part, then we that we missed the part of why we're here. I'm a I'm a father, most importantly a husband. I feel like she comes first and foremost. I'm a football player, I'm a creator, I'm a son, I'm all those things. But uh, just trying to embody all that is a lot. But yeah, I'm all those things and more so.

I think if we forget that part, then we that we missed the part of why we're here. I'm a I'm a father, most importantly a husband. I feel like she comes first and foremost. I'm a football player, I'm a creator, I'm a son, I'm all those things. But uh, just trying to embody all that is a lot. But yeah, I'm all those things and more so.

You both and your introduction you talked, you gave titles to who you are. Yeah, when you think about yourself, Jawan, what would you say if someone was to describe you? What word would you want to use?

You both and your introduction you talked, you gave titles to who you are. Yeah, when you think about yourself, Jawan, what would you say if someone was to describe you? What word would you want to use?

Both? Both?

Both? Both?

Uh, And the one thing is because I just want to live bold.

Uh, And the one thing is because I just want to live bold.

I feel like if we live.

I feel like if we live.

In such a way that it is secretive, people gets the wrong impersonation of me. They think that I'm secretive or not genuine. I just want to be a very bold person.

In such a way that it is secretive, people gets the wrong impersonation of me. They think that I'm secretive or not genuine. I just want to be a very bold person.

Uh.

Uh.

And that's how I've always I sort of been to come into my own I like to think my wife thinks I'm bold as well. But that's kind of the biggest save just as bold.

And that's how I've always I sort of been to come into my own I like to think my wife thinks I'm bold as well. But that's kind of the biggest save just as bold.

Do you agree with that word? I think he's so bold. I tell him all the time.

Do you agree with that word? I think he's so bold. I tell him all the time.

I'm like, I want to be more like you, like the confident that you have to be yourself. It's hard to be that way on the internet, and it's something we both strive to do a lot. We are very vulnerable and sometimes it scares me a little bit, but it's the most fun thing to just be inspiring people and showing like our true selves.

I'm like, I want to be more like you, like the confident that you have to be yourself. It's hard to be that way on the internet, and it's something we both strive to do a lot. We are very vulnerable and sometimes it scares me a little bit, but it's the most fun thing to just be inspiring people and showing like our true selves.

So I'm sure, And what were would you use? Would you want people to describe you as? I would love to be seen as inspiring for sure.

So I'm sure, And what were would you use? Would you want people to describe you as? I would love to be seen as inspiring for sure.

I felt like in the world that we're in, especially with football and recording, that there's a stereotype around women, and I really make it a goal to be a light in that way and show what it's really like to be a wife in the NFL, what it's really liked to be a mom who can have fun and have a fun career on the internet, and like, there's so many things that are just different about the lifestyle that we live that people think.

I felt like in the world that we're in, especially with football and recording, that there's a stereotype around women, and I really make it a goal to be a light in that way and show what it's really like to be a wife in the NFL, what it's really liked to be a mom who can have fun and have a fun career on the internet, and like, there's so many things that are just different about the lifestyle that we live that people think.

So I like to inspire women to live how.

So I like to inspire women to live how.

They want to live and be the way they want to be because it's all stereotype.

They want to live and be the way they want to be because it's all stereotype.

So what is that stereotype that you're referencing.

So what is that stereotype that you're referencing.

Yeah, when we first started social media, we put some vulnerable content out there and people were saying the same stuff. And everyone always says I'm with him for the money, or I trapp to or you know, all the stereotypes that people just think, like I don't do anything with my life, I don't have an identity, all those things, and I was like, you know what, I really don't like this, So I'm gonna go out my way to show people what my idn't really is and how I like to live my life. And I'm confident in who I am and that it's really not true the way that people think of us true.

Yeah, when we first started social media, we put some vulnerable content out there and people were saying the same stuff. And everyone always says I'm with him for the money, or I trapp to or you know, all the stereotypes that people just think, like I don't do anything with my life, I don't have an identity, all those things, and I was like, you know what, I really don't like this, So I'm gonna go out my way to show people what my idn't really is and how I like to live my life. And I'm confident in who I am and that it's really not true the way that people think of us true.

So does that matter to you what people think about you? Is that a driving force? Because and I'm asking that question because you said you want to be people to know you ask someone that's cold and boldness requires a bit of I don't care what you think about me. I'm going to do it an Yeah, So does that matter to you? Especially you talked about how you all have made a decision to be vulnerable. You're on a platform where whatever you share, all the people, which is the whole wide world, you have access to whatever it is that you're sharing.

So does that matter to you what people think about you? Is that a driving force? Because and I'm asking that question because you said you want to be people to know you ask someone that's cold and boldness requires a bit of I don't care what you think about me. I'm going to do it an Yeah, So does that matter to you? Especially you talked about how you all have made a decision to be vulnerable. You're on a platform where whatever you share, all the people, which is the whole wide world, you have access to whatever it is that you're sharing.

So do you care what people think?

So do you care what people think?

No, It's like I'm trying to like re say, scriptures are and this is one of the scriptures that I recited to it was obviously I'm not trying I want to approve of people. But if God, if certain people were my if please people were my goal, I wouldn't be a servant of Christ. And that's in relations And I try to say that to her, like, look, people are gonna say whatever they want to say. You're gonna want to please people. At the end of the day, It's like, you have to find a way where you have to focus on God more than you are with people, because if you focus on people, you're gonna miss the mark, You're gonna miss the goal that you have. You're gonna miss a lot of things. And I don't I don't want her to live in such a way where people's feelings always fluctuate. They're gonna say you're doing good one day, you can do the same thing tomorrow. They'd be like, oh, that's that's messed up, Like how does that make sense?

No, It's like I'm trying to like re say, scriptures are and this is one of the scriptures that I recited to it was obviously I'm not trying I want to approve of people. But if God, if certain people were my if please people were my goal, I wouldn't be a servant of Christ. And that's in relations And I try to say that to her, like, look, people are gonna say whatever they want to say. You're gonna want to please people. At the end of the day, It's like, you have to find a way where you have to focus on God more than you are with people, because if you focus on people, you're gonna miss the mark, You're gonna miss the goal that you have. You're gonna miss a lot of things. And I don't I don't want her to live in such a way where people's feelings always fluctuate. They're gonna say you're doing good one day, you can do the same thing tomorrow. They'd be like, oh, that's that's messed up, Like how does that make sense?

If you live our lives based on that, we're gonna be fluttering in the wind the same way their opinions are.

If you live our lives based on that, we're gonna be fluttering in the wind the same way their opinions are.

It's like, you found have a foundation and be solid in who you are.

It's like, you found have a foundation and be solid in who you are.

The one thing people.

The one thing people.

Say is like you can't catch one. Like if you're trying to catch the one, you're gonna miss it. Every time, and that's how people are, like, people will fluctuate so much, and like, how can we find a way where we can just being one true answer every time? And we can only find out of Christ. But the thing is we try to find with people, we gonna miss it every time. We can never make people have it.

Say is like you can't catch one. Like if you're trying to catch the one, you're gonna miss it. Every time, and that's how people are, like, people will fluctuate so much, and like, how can we find a way where we can just being one true answer every time? And we can only find out of Christ. But the thing is we try to find with people, we gonna miss it every time. We can never make people have it.

Somebody once said to me that if you live by the praise, you'll.

Somebody once said to me that if you live by the praise, you'll.

Die about it criticism.

Die about it criticism.

It's so true.

It's so true.

And I remember, so Troy and I have been married, my husband, Troy, we've been married for thirty years March ninth.

And I remember, so Troy and I have been married, my husband, Troy, we've been married for thirty years March ninth.

That's amazing. That's amazing, Thank you, that's amazing.

That's amazing. That's amazing, Thank you, that's amazing.

And I remember when we first got married the first what Yeah, when we first got married, people would ask me, so.

And I remember when we first got married the first what Yeah, when we first got married, people would ask me, so.

What are you going to do? Are you going to sit at home all day?

What are you going to do? Are you going to sit at home all day?

Like?

Like?

It was like and Troy.

It was like and Troy.

Never questioned the choices that I was making in life, or we never even had an opportunity to talk about what did we want our family to look like? Yeah, But immediately I felt this weight and this pressure to succumb to I gotta be doing something something, And I did a lot of things, but it was for the longa because I was I did I wanted to prove I don't. I'm not after what he has, right, I'm self sufficient. Like so everything was for the wrong reason, and it took years for me to get to the place where I recognize I got to get people's opinions out of my mind so that I can stabilize my thinking. And so that area of vulnerability that you're talking about that you display for everyone is there aligned for you all that you have established as your non negotiable with what you make public.

Never questioned the choices that I was making in life, or we never even had an opportunity to talk about what did we want our family to look like? Yeah, But immediately I felt this weight and this pressure to succumb to I gotta be doing something something, And I did a lot of things, but it was for the longa because I was I did I wanted to prove I don't. I'm not after what he has, right, I'm self sufficient. Like so everything was for the wrong reason, and it took years for me to get to the place where I recognize I got to get people's opinions out of my mind so that I can stabilize my thinking. And so that area of vulnerability that you're talking about that you display for everyone is there aligned for you all that you have established as your non negotiable with what you make public.

Obviously we all we honor each other, and like, if there's something that makes someone comfortable makes me uncomfortable, like well, you know, not close it. But there's not really anything that is off limits. This became a passion of mine because, like I was saying, the stereotype, people think, like she's not doing anything, what is she going to do? Similar to what you experience, And I think I cared too much at the beginning. I cared a lot when people would say something mean like oh my gosh, like she's not gonna do anything with her life.

Obviously we all we honor each other, and like, if there's something that makes someone comfortable makes me uncomfortable, like well, you know, not close it. But there's not really anything that is off limits. This became a passion of mine because, like I was saying, the stereotype, people think, like she's not doing anything, what is she going to do? Similar to what you experience, And I think I cared too much at the beginning. I cared a lot when people would say something mean like oh my gosh, like she's not gonna do anything with her life.

I'm like, dang, like that hurts.

I'm like, dang, like that hurts.

Because before he was in the NFL, I was a teacher and I had to quit to move and like people didn't know that about me, and I felt the need to explain myself and it wasn't necessary. So I was like, you know what the things that people say about is I'm going to start to make jokes about it.

Because before he was in the NFL, I was a teacher and I had to quit to move and like people didn't know that about me, and I felt the need to explain myself and it wasn't necessary. So I was like, you know what the things that people say about is I'm going to start to make jokes about it.

And that's where our content kind of came.

And that's where our content kind of came.

From, is like people see us fully joking about the stereotype.

From, is like people see us fully joking about the stereotype.

So it's like a parody. It's a parody, okay.

So it's like a parody. It's a parody, okay.

Because it's like, you're not going to sit here and tell me something about myself that you don't even know, Like I know who I am, so now we're joking about it and like proving you all wrong, like.

Because it's like, you're not going to sit here and tell me something about myself that you don't even know, Like I know who I am, so now we're joking about it and like proving you all wrong, like.

Clearly that's not who I am.

Clearly that's not who I am.

But it was hard at first, but yeah, no, nothing's off limits, down to our tragedies in life.

But it was hard at first, but yeah, no, nothing's off limits, down to our tragedies in life.

We are very much so open about it.

We are very much so open about it.

Yeah, but even then, it's just like people only get like a thirty second nippet of a video and try to make an assumption of our life. And the thing is like we can't let like somebody's opinion determine like who I am, Like it's you or thirty minute video that could be either satire or something serious, cause we both do satires here and you're really good at that line I'm.

Yeah, but even then, it's just like people only get like a thirty second nippet of a video and try to make an assumption of our life. And the thing is like we can't let like somebody's opinion determine like who I am, Like it's you or thirty minute video that could be either satire or something serious, cause we both do satires here and you're really good at that line I'm.

Just like all right, like that kind of hurt.

Just like all right, like that kind of hurt.

I don't figure it out.

I don't figure it out.

But the thing is like people can't always look too deep into it what they tried. And the thing is like, that's how we make our videos, Like we keep guessing, and so it's like, how can we make them to keep guessing and not find the answers because if they think it's too right or too.

But the thing is like people can't always look too deep into it what they tried. And the thing is like, that's how we make our videos, Like we keep guessing, and so it's like, how can we make them to keep guessing and not find the answers because if they think it's too right or too.

Wrong, they just they say, I don't know, I'm just keep watching. So I figured it out. And so that's how we kind of kind of go off of.

Wrong, they just they say, I don't know, I'm just keep watching. So I figured it out. And so that's how we kind of kind of go off of.

So you both are student athletes or were Yeah, yeah, yeah, So there is a level of commitment and work that comes from so before you two were together, there was something that was established in both of you. How and I'm going to start with you shand your experience and your work ethic as a as a collegiate athlete. Yeah, how does what you learn through that time in your life show up now as an adult with a child, husband, and also to the point of what you talked about, you've created this lane for yourself.

So you both are student athletes or were Yeah, yeah, yeah, So there is a level of commitment and work that comes from so before you two were together, there was something that was established in both of you. How and I'm going to start with you shand your experience and your work ethic as a as a collegiate athlete. Yeah, how does what you learn through that time in your life show up now as an adult with a child, husband, and also to the point of what you talked about, you've created this lane for yourself.

Yeah.

Yeah.

First of all, I did gymnastics, so I'm very type A, which is good for getting things done. Because Juan and I are very polar opposite, like he's did show one and I'm the like schedule type of girl, So I'm the one like handling our days and making sure everything's getting done, which honestly ended up great for us because it's like a cool little balance of like just keeping us at peace. But yeah, gymnastics was definitely huge for me and like getting me prepared for this.

First of all, I did gymnastics, so I'm very type A, which is good for getting things done. Because Juan and I are very polar opposite, like he's did show one and I'm the like schedule type of girl, So I'm the one like handling our days and making sure everything's getting done, which honestly ended up great for us because it's like a cool little balance of like just keeping us at peace. But yeah, gymnastics was definitely huge for me and like getting me prepared for this.

Lifestyle as well.

Lifestyle as well.

I was just talking with some people about this earlier today that you know, having my bay ground in sports made it easy for me to kind of figure out his life without getting upset because sometimes it's easy to be like, well, I think that's a big thing that needs to be talked about, is it does feel like sometimes you have to put some things on the back burnner from yourself just because six months out the year, we do have to live in a certain state and that's a non negotiable, or we do have to go do things that you know, because your job is priority for six months out the year and then the other six months it's my turn and we get to go do what I want to do. But showing me like this is a schedule, and when a coach says you have to be somewhere at a certain time, you can't like argue it. So it's like during football camp when he's there for a month. You know, if I wasn't an athlete before, I've been like what do you mean tell?

I was just talking with some people about this earlier today that you know, having my bay ground in sports made it easy for me to kind of figure out his life without getting upset because sometimes it's easy to be like, well, I think that's a big thing that needs to be talked about, is it does feel like sometimes you have to put some things on the back burnner from yourself just because six months out the year, we do have to live in a certain state and that's a non negotiable, or we do have to go do things that you know, because your job is priority for six months out the year and then the other six months it's my turn and we get to go do what I want to do. But showing me like this is a schedule, and when a coach says you have to be somewhere at a certain time, you can't like argue it. So it's like during football camp when he's there for a month. You know, if I wasn't an athlete before, I've been like what do you mean tell?

But like, hey, I get it. I do get it.

But like, hey, I get it. I do get it.

YEA, yeah, I think it's I think it's interesting, Like you raised a great point that you just sort of come into like a routine. It's just like it's familiar. It's something that we've been doing all of our lives. Especially for her, she's been doing since she was like she was doing that since she was three, all the way up until what twenty with three twenty four, she was doing jam nasalls for twenty one years and right now, like I've started when i was seven and now I'm twenty seven right now, so I've been doing it for twenty years. So we already have like a routina how it is and what it's like. So I'm glad we have the understanding of just like Shan, I know this is priority, I know it sucks.

YEA, yeah, I think it's I think it's interesting, Like you raised a great point that you just sort of come into like a routine. It's just like it's familiar. It's something that we've been doing all of our lives. Especially for her, she's been doing since she was like she was doing that since she was three, all the way up until what twenty with three twenty four, she was doing jam nasalls for twenty one years and right now, like I've started when i was seven and now I'm twenty seven right now, so I've been doing it for twenty years. So we already have like a routina how it is and what it's like. So I'm glad we have the understanding of just like Shan, I know this is priority, I know it sucks.

Is not what we want to do.

Is not what we want to do.

It's just like a baby, like they have to get shots. We hate that they cry, we hate that they feel a certain way, but they got to do it. They get through it because you know, this is what we have to do. But you know it's gonna be great when it's all said and done. So yeah, it's just a sacrifice, honestness.

It's just like a baby, like they have to get shots. We hate that they cry, we hate that they feel a certain way, but they got to do it. They get through it because you know, this is what we have to do. But you know it's gonna be great when it's all said and done. So yeah, it's just a sacrifice, honestness.

Well, in the profession of a professional athlete, one thing is for sure, it's going to come to an end, It's true.

Well, in the profession of a professional athlete, one thing is for sure, it's going to come to an end, It's true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the ability to be able to plan and have other things in life that you're pursuing and able to do that simultaneously as a professional athlete, that is a special opportunity because it it creates opportunity posts your professional career. And when you think about that and you and you are aware that one day this will come to an end. Sure, yeah, and you have this focus for yourself and it's inclusive of the family.

And the ability to be able to plan and have other things in life that you're pursuing and able to do that simultaneously as a professional athlete, that is a special opportunity because it it creates opportunity posts your professional career. And when you think about that and you and you are aware that one day this will come to an end. Sure, yeah, and you have this focus for yourself and it's inclusive of the family.

But it's clear that.

But it's clear that.

You're the type a you said that, you know, so you're you're really working to make that successful for you definitely.

You're the type a you said that, you know, so you're you're really working to make that successful for you definitely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How will you shift from the space of we have this six month type of thing to now full time your life is on blast?

How will you shift from the space of we have this six month type of thing to now full time your life is on blast?

Yeah, Yeah, that's a great question. Honestly, it would just have to come with just a routine I'm I'm really routine driven she's really scheduled driven, so like if this happened, like all right, like like just like this more like we're I was working out, worried out every day is we get like six thirty and she's like, Juan, you out, Like I know, but it's just the routine I have. And so the thing is just like I think it's just gonna come to a compromise. It's like we like one of my favorite words we use is our reciprocity, Like we have to give as much as we're like giving to each other. So it's just like the equal amount and we'll find like we'll find what we necessarily need. Like I don't necessarily know how it's gonna work when it's twelve months one blacks, I'm not sure, but we'll come to an understanding like this is what we need because we definitely need rest in between a lot of that because a lot of yeah, we were always on the go or trying to pick up something to do. We're always trying to connect with somebody, trying to help somebody. So we're just trying to find some time to rest. And I think I think we'll figure it out. It'll be just fine.

Yeah, Yeah, that's a great question. Honestly, it would just have to come with just a routine I'm I'm really routine driven she's really scheduled driven, so like if this happened, like all right, like like just like this more like we're I was working out, worried out every day is we get like six thirty and she's like, Juan, you out, Like I know, but it's just the routine I have. And so the thing is just like I think it's just gonna come to a compromise. It's like we like one of my favorite words we use is our reciprocity, Like we have to give as much as we're like giving to each other. So it's just like the equal amount and we'll find like we'll find what we necessarily need. Like I don't necessarily know how it's gonna work when it's twelve months one blacks, I'm not sure, but we'll come to an understanding like this is what we need because we definitely need rest in between a lot of that because a lot of yeah, we were always on the go or trying to pick up something to do. We're always trying to connect with somebody, trying to help somebody. So we're just trying to find some time to rest. And I think I think we'll figure it out. It'll be just fine.

You mentioned schedule versus routine.

You mentioned schedule versus routine.

Now someone may hear that and think, what's the difference between the two. Can you speak to that more, Yeah, so people can understand the difference.

Now someone may hear that and think, what's the difference between the two. Can you speak to that more, Yeah, so people can understand the difference.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I feel like it's schedules.

So I feel like it's schedules.

I feel like it's schedule is sometimes always subject to change, and I feel like, yeah, you could have a little new way. But I feel like a routine is something that's not mandatory, but it's just something you just love to do. Like routine is just like, man, I love doing it, and I feel like it's schedule is just like something I'm just I'm just doing it and I love I love my routine. I love waking up, I love working out. I feel like it's more just a lifestyle thing. But I feel like a schedule is something that you're just dragging to do, like, oh, I gotta do this, I gotta do.

I feel like it's schedule is sometimes always subject to change, and I feel like, yeah, you could have a little new way. But I feel like a routine is something that's not mandatory, but it's just something you just love to do. Like routine is just like, man, I love doing it, and I feel like it's schedule is just like something I'm just I'm just doing it and I love I love my routine. I love waking up, I love working out. I feel like it's more just a lifestyle thing. But I feel like a schedule is something that you're just dragging to do, like, oh, I gotta do this, I gotta do.

This, I gotta do It's OCD sketuling. He's like, I love this every day. It's routine. I'm like, what do we have to get done to that?

This, I gotta do It's OCD sketuling. He's like, I love this every day. It's routine. I'm like, what do we have to get done to that?

There's nothing wrong the thing, it does, nothing wrong with that.

There's nothing wrong the thing, it does, nothing wrong with that.

But it's just like the viewpoint of a schedule and a routine is just a little different.

But it's just like the viewpoint of a schedule and a routine is just a little different.

Yeah, So, Shannon, what is something and you say, you said you're vulnerable on social media, so people believe they know all there is to know about you. Yeah, you know that's people think that anyway. When they someone social media is curated to share the highlights of their life, people think, oh, we got the inside school on that person. What is something about Shannon that no one knows about you via social media?

Yeah, So, Shannon, what is something and you say, you said you're vulnerable on social media, so people believe they know all there is to know about you. Yeah, you know that's people think that anyway. When they someone social media is curated to share the highlights of their life, people think, oh, we got the inside school on that person. What is something about Shannon that no one knows about you via social media?

Dang, that's a crazy question. That's really good.

Dang, that's a crazy question. That's really good.

Kind of like John was saying, it's definitely our relationship with christ We share it to a degree on the internet, and it's something that we're passionate about sharing, of course, but it's definitely our everything, and it's not something that's always on. People have their feelings of the type of relationship that we are, and it's always a stereotype.

Kind of like John was saying, it's definitely our relationship with christ We share it to a degree on the internet, and it's something that we're passionate about sharing, of course, but it's definitely our everything, and it's not something that's always on. People have their feelings of the type of relationship that we are, and it's always a stereotype.

Is he faithful, he's a football player, all this stuff, And it's.

Is he faithful, he's a football player, all this stuff, And it's.

Just like, I wish y'all knew what our relationship was really like because the love that we have for each other is so intense because of the logo for God, Yeah, that's something that's like not as public as it's out there, but it's so much deeper than people really know.

Just like, I wish y'all knew what our relationship was really like because the love that we have for each other is so intense because of the logo for God, Yeah, that's something that's like not as public as it's out there, but it's so much deeper than people really know.

Yeah, I feel like for you. This is answer YOURWN question.

Yeah, I feel like for you. This is answer YOURWN question.

Yeah, I feel like people don't know how compassionate she is, Like she's she's a very compassionate person.

Yeah, I feel like people don't know how compassionate she is, Like she's she's a very compassionate person.

She cares for a lot of people. A lot of people don't see that.

She cares for a lot of people. A lot of people don't see that.

I mean people see like how happy she is and how funny she is and how lovely she assorts me.

I mean people see like how happy she is and how funny she is and how lovely she assorts me.

But the people who see.

But the people who see.

Her outside, like she is so engulfed in like people, making people, say, making people happy, and a lot of people don't.

Her outside, like she is so engulfed in like people, making people, say, making people happy, and a lot of people don't.

A lot of people don't see that. Yeah, And I guess.

A lot of people don't see that. Yeah, And I guess.

For myself, Uh, for myself, I feel like we put a lot out there, so I feel like it's really really hard. But I feel like for the most part, I have a saut side and I think and I think, yeah, I mean I have girls, and that's why I feel like I have a lot of girls. I'm just very I'm very soft and very gentle. But people think men are.

For myself, Uh, for myself, I feel like we put a lot out there, so I feel like it's really really hard. But I feel like for the most part, I have a saut side and I think and I think, yeah, I mean I have girls, and that's why I feel like I have a lot of girls. I'm just very I'm very soft and very gentle. But people think men are.

Just like so hard and yeah, like Jesus, what that's the one. He's not that he's soft, but it's like, you know, I like a sympathy, like sigh, like a soft side of people's So.

Just like so hard and yeah, like Jesus, what that's the one. He's not that he's soft, but it's like, you know, I like a sympathy, like sigh, like a soft side of people's So.

I think it's wonderful that he shows that side of him so off on the internet, not all of it, but like being a loving husband, being a good man, like being a soft fan, like but that's okay, that's really nice that he can like understand his emotions and like express them properly. Like I wish more men would do that, And I'm hoping people are encouraged by how long have you guys been married?

I think it's wonderful that he shows that side of him so off on the internet, not all of it, but like being a loving husband, being a good man, like being a soft fan, like but that's okay, that's really nice that he can like understand his emotions and like express them properly. Like I wish more men would do that, And I'm hoping people are encouraged by how long have you guys been married?

We're coming up. We're coming up before it so next week, next week.

We're coming up. We're coming up before it so next week, next week.

Before I guess. We got married in Vegas.

Before I guess. We got married in Vegas.

Yeah, yeah, the episode.

Yeah, yeah, the episode.

Did you have a wedding or like a the courthouse? It was twenty twenty.

Did you have a wedding or like a the courthouse? It was twenty twenty.

We knew we wanted to get married, and it was like he didn't have his birthday to get as. They were like, where can we go get married without one?

We knew we wanted to get married, and it was like he didn't have his birthday to get as. They were like, where can we go get married without one?

No doubt? Sure enough, no doubt.

No doubt? Sure enough, no doubt.

Not marry us. We just went to the courthouse.

Not marry us. We just went to the courthouse.

We already like we got it's not it's not those you got tears.

We already like we got it's not it's not those you got tears.

The emotions. It was one hundred.

The emotions. It was one hundred.

You just say I do, so can do my next one. That's kind of like he was like like, come on, let's go listen.

You just say I do, so can do my next one. That's kind of like he was like like, come on, let's go listen.

Truth to me that weddings are not necessary, okay, because I was.

Truth to me that weddings are not necessary, okay, because I was.

Fully emotional and fully I had a whole wedding, and I had to spend one hundred bucks in one thousand.

Fully emotional and fully I had a whole wedding, and I had to spend one hundred bucks in one thousand.

Soa Troy thirty years we didn't have a wedding. We got married at the Fort Lauderdale Wedding Channel. It was Man Troy.

Soa Troy thirty years we didn't have a wedding. We got married at the Fort Lauderdale Wedding Channel. It was Man Troy.

We had on Jeanie shore T shirts, sneakers, I love.

We had on Jeanie shore T shirts, sneakers, I love.

His grandfather happened to be in town and Troy was at a marco Coleman was having a golf tournament.

His grandfather happened to be in town and Troy was at a marco Coleman was having a golf tournament.

Wow.

Wow.

Troy called and.

Troy called and.

Said, Hey, look at the yellow pages and find somewhere for us to get married.

Said, Hey, look at the yellow pages and find somewhere for us to get married.

When I come home this weekend. I said, bet oh, yeah listening. We're always ready.

When I come home this weekend. I said, bet oh, yeah listening. We're always ready.

And you go find ourselfs So we get married.

And you go find ourselfs So we get married.

We gotta get married. No, but don't you don't you kind of feel like that was more special. I don't regret it one that. No, I don't see you.

We gotta get married. No, but don't you don't you kind of feel like that was more special. I don't regret it one that. No, I don't see you.

Do the whole thing, like not doing it for other people like she would never change that.

Do the whole thing, like not doing it for other people like she would never change that.

And everybody that was present, myself and True and his grandfather, they were happy for us. That's the piece, the piece for me when I look at it, and then you know, I know the experiences I had throughout my life pertaining to our relationship, and maybe people who were not always dreaming about.

And everybody that was present, myself and True and his grandfather, they were happy for us. That's the piece, the piece for me when I look at it, and then you know, I know the experiences I had throughout my life pertaining to our relationship, and maybe people who were not always dreaming about.

It, the people that mattered and that celebrate us in care.

It, the people that mattered and that celebrate us in care.

That is amazing.

That is amazing.

That's the best swim. It's encouraged for you guys. Keep working, Just keep putting in the work and keep loving each other.

That's the best swim. It's encouraged for you guys. Keep working, Just keep putting in the work and keep loving each other.

And you'll get you.

And you'll get you.

And also make sure you have space for yourself in the process. Like I know you're building together, but make sure she In is building, make sure Jawana is building so that way you come together whole. It's not a part of you want a part of you know, it's both of you. Multiplication. You know what I'm saying. Thank you, But I'm so grateful that you all took time, not just absolutely thank you for having us listen.

And also make sure you have space for yourself in the process. Like I know you're building together, but make sure she In is building, make sure Jawana is building so that way you come together whole. It's not a part of you want a part of you know, it's both of you. Multiplication. You know what I'm saying. Thank you, But I'm so grateful that you all took time, not just absolutely thank you for having us listen.

I'm grateful. I'm grateful for brother Law.

I'm grateful. I'm grateful for brother Law.

Everybody know the man I am.

Everybody know the man I am.

Somewhere I am.

Somewhere I am.

I've done many many things throughout are the course of me and toors relationship. Really working to find who I am and what it is that I desire to do, and I'm doing that right.

I've done many many things throughout are the course of me and toors relationship. Really working to find who I am and what it is that I desire to do, and I'm doing that right.

Speaking to people.

Speaking to people.

Sharing their stories and this platform to share those stories is important.

Sharing their stories and this platform to share those stories is important.

I love that this is this is a man. This is so wholesome.

I love that this is this is a man. This is so wholesome.

Today, s.

Today, s.

Very I appreciate you.

Very I appreciate you.

So much, but thank you so much for joining me today.

So much, but thank you so much for joining me today.

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Absolutely absolutely know

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Who till it be