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Welcome to another exciting edition of up on Game presents conversations with a legend, and we do have another legend on board on that one of my personal faves a hero growing up, we got mister ward Done.

Welcome to another exciting edition of up on Game presents conversations with a legend, and we do have another legend on board on that one of my personal faves a hero growing up, we got mister ward Done.

Now, I got I gotta set it off by saying this.

Now, I got I gotta set it off by saying this.

And I know I probably told you this a few times over, but you know I used to wear wristbands on my shins right below my knee because of Ward Done. I had to strap I had to strap on my shoe. Because of Ward Done, I had the wristband on my elbows. Now, they might have thought it was just because of Deep Brooks and ray Lu, but a lot of my influence came from from you. So and it's interesting because you know, I give you a backstory. Andy Orbanic Right, y'all's assistant A d was from Penhills, Pittsburgh, And when I was in high school, he did a camp of champions in Pittsburgh. They would come to the camp and during the mess halls when all the teams would come together and be eating.

And I know I probably told you this a few times over, but you know I used to wear wristbands on my shins right below my knee because of Ward Done. I had to strap I had to strap on my shoe. Because of Ward Done, I had the wristband on my elbows. Now, they might have thought it was just because of Deep Brooks and ray Lu, but a lot of my influence came from from you. So and it's interesting because you know, I give you a backstory. Andy Orbanic Right, y'all's assistant A d was from Penhills, Pittsburgh, And when I was in high school, he did a camp of champions in Pittsburgh. They would come to the camp and during the mess halls when all the teams would come together and be eating.

He would show highlights of Florida State.

He would show highlights of Florida State.

So my two favorites easily, well, three, I gotta say three. But I didn't want to be Charlie Ward. I wanted to be like Ward Done and Derrick Brooks. So the coolest thing was, here's the weirdest thing. I'm taller than both of y'all. Right, So I was at six ' three in high school like this, like my freshman year, sophomore year, and Andy Orbanic would bring me the tapes.

So my two favorites easily, well, three, I gotta say three. But I didn't want to be Charlie Ward. I wanted to be like Ward Done and Derrick Brooks. So the coolest thing was, here's the weirdest thing. I'm taller than both of y'all. Right, So I was at six ' three in high school like this, like my freshman year, sophomore year, and Andy Orbanic would bring me the tapes.

So indirectly, I ran like I was your.

So indirectly, I ran like I was your.

Size because I in my mind, I wanted to run like how you ran.

Size because I in my mind, I wanted to run like how you ran.

So I patterned my running style after you.

So I patterned my running style after you.

So I was quick and I was shifty even though I was long, you know what I mean. So yeah, yeah, and I rocked the cowboy collar and all that stuff because because of Deep Brooks and all that. So I was a Florida State and always told coach Bollten God rest his soul, always told him, if they would have recruited me harder, I would have been a knowle you know what I mean.

So I was quick and I was shifty even though I was long, you know what I mean. So yeah, yeah, and I rocked the cowboy collar and all that stuff because because of Deep Brooks and all that. So I was a Florida State and always told coach Bollten God rest his soul, always told him, if they would have recruited me harder, I would have been a knowle you know what I mean.

But yeah, you.

But yeah, you.

Would enjoy it. You would enjoyed the little small town I mean I know you you were a great player in college, and so what you would have enjoyed Tallahasse just you know, all of the competition, just just to compete, just to get on the field. I think I would have just you know, been crazy. So we had a good group of linebackers, then I'm sure you'd came and you're to have added to that mix and would have been would have been crazy on defense.

Would enjoy it. You would enjoyed the little small town I mean I know you you were a great player in college, and so what you would have enjoyed Tallahasse just you know, all of the competition, just just to compete, just to get on the field. I think I would have just you know, been crazy. So we had a good group of linebackers, then I'm sure you'd came and you're to have added to that mix and would have been would have been crazy on defense.

Yeah, that that was the same David Warren came in. That that would have been too. It would have been ninety seven. But I mean I grew up on them, like when when they had Ruble d. Brooks, you know what I mean, they had Wadsworth, they had they had Alexander had Crockett, had Hamlet in the back. I'll run it off for you, now, hey, Clifton Abraham, I mean, I'll run them off.

Yeah, that that was the same David Warren came in. That that would have been too. It would have been ninety seven. But I mean I grew up on them, like when when they had Ruble d. Brooks, you know what I mean, they had Wadsworth, they had they had Alexander had Crockett, had Hamlet in the back. I'll run it off for you, now, hey, Clifton Abraham, I mean, I'll run them off.

But but here's the thing.

But but here's the thing.

So so being a part of one of the most iconic errors of Florida State football and being so young and and and getting in the mix of it. I can recall you in rock Preston being in the backfield. I think you were older though, right you. I think he came, we came in, we were Yeah, were both reshman.

So so being a part of one of the most iconic errors of Florida State football and being so young and and and getting in the mix of it. I can recall you in rock Preston being in the backfield. I think you were older though, right you. I think he came, we came in, we were Yeah, were both reshman.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow, So but you played more out the gate than Rock did.

Wow, So but you played more out the gate than Rock did.

Well, I played more out of the gate because when we start the camp, he wasn't there the first few days because he did the summer. He was in school school, right, I think, you know, you can go to school early on, and he went to school early and I didn't, so you know, classes didn't end early enough for him to start. So I had a couple of days on him doing that. But I mean once he came, you know, I was like, oh my god, I better get it together. And you know, we just competed. But the thing is, we made each other better. And I just happened to play my freshman year because you know, the starter had anchor injury doing camp, and you know, he didn't take a lot of reps to backup blew his knee out, you know, first day of camp, Tiger McMillan blew his knee out. And then you know the second I mean third and fourth guy. You know, it's just they were in the mix. So once I started getting reps against the first team defense, sixty yards, fifty yards, this and that. That was all she wrote.

Well, I played more out of the gate because when we start the camp, he wasn't there the first few days because he did the summer. He was in school school, right, I think, you know, you can go to school early on, and he went to school early and I didn't, so you know, classes didn't end early enough for him to start. So I had a couple of days on him doing that. But I mean once he came, you know, I was like, oh my god, I better get it together. And you know, we just competed. But the thing is, we made each other better. And I just happened to play my freshman year because you know, the starter had anchor injury doing camp, and you know, he didn't take a lot of reps to backup blew his knee out, you know, first day of camp, Tiger McMillan blew his knee out. And then you know the second I mean third and fourth guy. You know, it's just they were in the mix. So once I started getting reps against the first team defense, sixty yards, fifty yards, this and that. That was all she wrote.

So fast forward. I gotta fast forward. To this because you meant so much to me. When we played Atlanta and I got my first chance to play against you, I was gunning for you, like I felt like if I could.

So fast forward. I gotta fast forward. To this because you meant so much to me. When we played Atlanta and I got my first chance to play against you, I was gunning for you, like I felt like if I could.

Get to you, like that's like one of those things.

Get to you, like that's like one of those things.

It's like, if I'm on the field with another linebacker, I'm gonna try to outdo that linebacker. If I'm on the field he and a hero is on the other side, like Jerome Bettis. I had to try my hand with Jerome Bettis, right. So it was like there was like a couple. There was you, there was Fred Taylor, there was Jerome Bettis. Those are the three. It's like, oh, they're on the field, like who So I don't know if you remember this, but you remember me. I don't even know who the fullback was, but he came to chop me and I leaped from d and I got a hold of you in Atlanta, And it was a highlight of my life to be able to get a hold of Ward Done in the backfield. It was a TfL by the way I did get yours.

It's like, if I'm on the field with another linebacker, I'm gonna try to outdo that linebacker. If I'm on the field he and a hero is on the other side, like Jerome Bettis. I had to try my hand with Jerome Bettis, right. So it was like there was like a couple. There was you, there was Fred Taylor, there was Jerome Bettis. Those are the three. It's like, oh, they're on the field, like who So I don't know if you remember this, but you remember me. I don't even know who the fullback was, but he came to chop me and I leaped from d and I got a hold of you in Atlanta, And it was a highlight of my life to be able to get a hold of Ward Done in the backfield. It was a TfL by the way I did get yours.

I mean, you know, those things happened occasionally, but it wasn't It wasn't a clean hit, right because I wasn't trying to give you a lot to hit. But you know, I trust the guys in front of me, and I you know, I had Fred mccry, you know mac quarry.

I mean, you know, those things happened occasionally, but it wasn't It wasn't a clean hit, right because I wasn't trying to give you a lot to hit. But you know, I trust the guys in front of me, and I you know, I had Fred mccry, you know mac quarry.

Leave, Yeah, leave.

Leave, Yeah, leave.

So I figured that's where it was, right because Justin, Justin wouldn't let you do that. He was a smaller guy, so he's gonna use his his size to help him. But Fred, he's trying to always pound you. Yeah, but I can just I can say that if you did do that. And I don't remember, right, but it wasn't a clean shot. I know you remember, but I'm gonna go back and look at the films. So yeah, if it was a clean shot, No, I wasn't gonna let that happen.

So I figured that's where it was, right because Justin, Justin wouldn't let you do that. He was a smaller guy, so he's gonna use his his size to help him. But Fred, he's trying to always pound you. Yeah, but I can just I can say that if you did do that. And I don't remember, right, but it wasn't a clean shot. I know you remember, but I'm gonna go back and look at the films. So yeah, if it was a clean shot, No, I wasn't gonna let that happen.

Have to do part two. You're gonna have to tell me what you saw on part two.

Have to do part two. You're gonna have to tell me what you saw on part two.

Oh, we can do that. We can do that, we can do that. It was you know, hey, whatever, it's gonna make you sleep better than that. I appreciate that.

Oh, we can do that. We can do that, we can do that. It was you know, hey, whatever, it's gonna make you sleep better than that. I appreciate that.

We're so old now. And so here's a transition. Here's a transition.

We're so old now. And so here's a transition. Here's a transition.

Everybody knows, especially in Atlanta, what work Done is doing and what Work Done has done.

Everybody knows, especially in Atlanta, what work Done is doing and what Work Done has done.

For his entire life.

For his entire life.

But for those who may have lived under a rock for all these years and never caught win to all of the great things you've done.

But for those who may have lived under a rock for all these years and never caught win to all of the great things you've done.

Let us know what you're doing.

Let us know what you're doing.

Now.

Now.

What does work Done have going on now?

What does work Done have going on now?

Well? I have a lot of jobs, right, so I would tell you that we can be here for a little bit. You know, I don't think we have enough time. But I think you know a lot of people know me as the guy who just helps families, right, I'm the guy who gives away houses. I don't give anything away, but I try to help single parent families who have become a first time homeowners moving to their new home. And the reason I do that is because my mom and what she her issues were, the reason she sacrificed her life is trying to provide a stable environment for us. So for me, I wanted to live up my mom's dream through other single parents. And what we do is with single parent families who are becoming first time homeowners, and that's give them five thousand dollars down payment and we're fully furnishing at homes. We I mean, we put everything in their homes all the way down to the toothbrush. Right. So now you just pretty much have to just bring.

Well? I have a lot of jobs, right, so I would tell you that we can be here for a little bit. You know, I don't think we have enough time. But I think you know a lot of people know me as the guy who just helps families, right, I'm the guy who gives away houses. I don't give anything away, but I try to help single parent families who have become a first time homeowners moving to their new home. And the reason I do that is because my mom and what she her issues were, the reason she sacrificed her life is trying to provide a stable environment for us. So for me, I wanted to live up my mom's dream through other single parents. And what we do is with single parent families who are becoming first time homeowners, and that's give them five thousand dollars down payment and we're fully furnishing at homes. We I mean, we put everything in their homes all the way down to the toothbrush. Right. So now you just pretty much have to just bring.

Your clothes out right.

Your clothes out right.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. So we've been doing it now and we're about to get ready to celebrate twenty five years years of this and you know, we're up to one hundred. I think I'm gonna get the number one hundred and ninety five single parent families we felt today. So we're going to continue to go and getting ready for home two hundred. I appreciate it, but this started the ninth ninety seven. I had no idea what I was doing in nineteen ninety seven, you know, just years later and you know, I just knew that my I'm let my mo mom's dream and for me it was more like therapy. But as organization, we've grown over the years and it was like I said, we're about to celebrate twenty five years of this program. But we've also expanded. Now we have a financial literacy program that's called kind of Your Future. We try to help families not just about budgeting, but we want them to save money. And it's not just the parents. We also work with the kids as well. Start the savings account, invest in themselves and we do that and we also have a program that's called Scope, a healthy food initiative and we try to educate families on quick and healthy meals eventually build their own vegetable box where they can grow their foods in their backyard. So we're doing that. And we also have a scholarship program that's called Horts for Community Service where we try to help students who are in school. They're impacting their community, but they also need some assistance in school as well. And we just raised that to five thousand dollars. That a one thousand dollars five thousand dollars scholarships. So we're just trying to help our community. And over the years these programs have come around, we transition these things because these are the things I've learned from other families, hearing their stores, their issues, and how can I really help support them on their journey of home ownership. And you know, stable housing solves a lot of problems, society problems, and are focused on that. For me, it's important that we give these kids an opportunity to have their parents, you know, until they get a lot older, so they can continue to learn. I just don't want kids to go through what I had to go through and burn and burying my mom and not having her around through through the important years of not just my life, but my younger five brothers and sisters. They needed her during that time, So I want to help preserve that for kids. Just moving forward, and you know, this program is near and deer, and we're trying to grow and expand this program. We're in fourteen i want to say, fifteen states, twenty four twenty five markets. We're growing. We're expanding and trying to get into every NFL city. That's going to be the goal in twenty twenty two. It's like, how can we actually go and impact, you know, every NFL city. Because most of the guys who play on these teams grew up in a single parent house, someone in their family can relate to it. So we want to be able to take this program and expand and partner with the teams. Moving forward, and now I'm into building housing as well. Got WD communities where we build housing for families. We don't just work with single parent families, but two parent households. Were trying to just help individuals who are on that journey. But the difference with this program is that once you purchase a home, we try to make sure we support the families for at least five years through their home ownership. And that means that means taking courses, financial literacy, courses, consistently holding them accountable. I call it health and wellness where we try to incentivize them to go to counseling, you know, work out, train, just all the things we do in our health and wellness piece. We want to be able to incentivize them for long, long periods of time. And we try to help families who may need to get a certificate to upgrade their status on their job, or they want to be entrepreneurs workforce development. So we try to help support the families for at least five years, and we use government subsidies to help with that as well. Like I got a lot of jobs. I can go on and on and on. We can go in here for a while, but you know, like I work with the Legends program as well, trying to help us talk about that. Yeah, yeah, So trying to help retire players really understand what they have, you know, at their fingertips, right, creating this access for them to be able to understand their benefits, all the perks that they have, the opportunities to take courses to learn different things We just want to be a resource to them and make sure that they understand that they played this game for a long time. You know, when you leave the game, you don't have that locker room feel when you're at home, So we can we can create that virtual locker room in a sense where you know, from time to time we get together, you can you know, communicate and catch up with the guys that you played with, played against, you know, reliving those moments. You have those moments where you can do that with the Legends program. But most importantly, we support them right, scholarship opportunities, if anything happens in the family, we can support them, you know by any assistance. I mean anything. We can probably help with anything to really assist them through their journey. And it's not just the individual, but they have all these benefits. Let's put it to you, so let's help support yourself and your family. So, you know, it's been a great program. I've been there sending since the inception, so it's just grown and we're just trying to continue to expand. And now we got the app. Guys can download the app really take advantage of opportunities and the things that I think the Legends program and the league is trying to do for them.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. So we've been doing it now and we're about to get ready to celebrate twenty five years years of this and you know, we're up to one hundred. I think I'm gonna get the number one hundred and ninety five single parent families we felt today. So we're going to continue to go and getting ready for home two hundred. I appreciate it, but this started the ninth ninety seven. I had no idea what I was doing in nineteen ninety seven, you know, just years later and you know, I just knew that my I'm let my mo mom's dream and for me it was more like therapy. But as organization, we've grown over the years and it was like I said, we're about to celebrate twenty five years of this program. But we've also expanded. Now we have a financial literacy program that's called kind of Your Future. We try to help families not just about budgeting, but we want them to save money. And it's not just the parents. We also work with the kids as well. Start the savings account, invest in themselves and we do that and we also have a program that's called Scope, a healthy food initiative and we try to educate families on quick and healthy meals eventually build their own vegetable box where they can grow their foods in their backyard. So we're doing that. And we also have a scholarship program that's called Horts for Community Service where we try to help students who are in school. They're impacting their community, but they also need some assistance in school as well. And we just raised that to five thousand dollars. That a one thousand dollars five thousand dollars scholarships. So we're just trying to help our community. And over the years these programs have come around, we transition these things because these are the things I've learned from other families, hearing their stores, their issues, and how can I really help support them on their journey of home ownership. And you know, stable housing solves a lot of problems, society problems, and are focused on that. For me, it's important that we give these kids an opportunity to have their parents, you know, until they get a lot older, so they can continue to learn. I just don't want kids to go through what I had to go through and burn and burying my mom and not having her around through through the important years of not just my life, but my younger five brothers and sisters. They needed her during that time, So I want to help preserve that for kids. Just moving forward, and you know, this program is near and deer, and we're trying to grow and expand this program. We're in fourteen i want to say, fifteen states, twenty four twenty five markets. We're growing. We're expanding and trying to get into every NFL city. That's going to be the goal in twenty twenty two. It's like, how can we actually go and impact, you know, every NFL city. Because most of the guys who play on these teams grew up in a single parent house, someone in their family can relate to it. So we want to be able to take this program and expand and partner with the teams. Moving forward, and now I'm into building housing as well. Got WD communities where we build housing for families. We don't just work with single parent families, but two parent households. Were trying to just help individuals who are on that journey. But the difference with this program is that once you purchase a home, we try to make sure we support the families for at least five years through their home ownership. And that means that means taking courses, financial literacy, courses, consistently holding them accountable. I call it health and wellness where we try to incentivize them to go to counseling, you know, work out, train, just all the things we do in our health and wellness piece. We want to be able to incentivize them for long, long periods of time. And we try to help families who may need to get a certificate to upgrade their status on their job, or they want to be entrepreneurs workforce development. So we try to help support the families for at least five years, and we use government subsidies to help with that as well. Like I got a lot of jobs. I can go on and on and on. We can go in here for a while, but you know, like I work with the Legends program as well, trying to help us talk about that. Yeah, yeah, So trying to help retire players really understand what they have, you know, at their fingertips, right, creating this access for them to be able to understand their benefits, all the perks that they have, the opportunities to take courses to learn different things We just want to be a resource to them and make sure that they understand that they played this game for a long time. You know, when you leave the game, you don't have that locker room feel when you're at home, So we can we can create that virtual locker room in a sense where you know, from time to time we get together, you can you know, communicate and catch up with the guys that you played with, played against, you know, reliving those moments. You have those moments where you can do that with the Legends program. But most importantly, we support them right, scholarship opportunities, if anything happens in the family, we can support them, you know by any assistance. I mean anything. We can probably help with anything to really assist them through their journey. And it's not just the individual, but they have all these benefits. Let's put it to you, so let's help support yourself and your family. So, you know, it's been a great program. I've been there sending since the inception, so it's just grown and we're just trying to continue to expand. And now we got the app. Guys can download the app really take advantage of opportunities and the things that I think the Legends program and the league is trying to do for them.

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Because for me, it's like the brands that exist.

Because for me, it's like the brands that exist.

For some of these legends and what opportunities could be there if they understood what branding truly meant and how to leverage it, I think is something that is needed.

For some of these legends and what opportunities could be there if they understood what branding truly meant and how to leverage it, I think is something that is needed.

That education of what that looks like.

That education of what that looks like.

I feel like you've done an amazing job, whether and you can tell me whether you were aware of it or just kind of it happened. But Work Done is a brand, and that's that's your charity. It's it's named after you. That's a legacy. What what goes into Wark Done's idea of branding?

I feel like you've done an amazing job, whether and you can tell me whether you were aware of it or just kind of it happened. But Work Done is a brand, and that's that's your charity. It's it's named after you. That's a legacy. What what goes into Wark Done's idea of branding?

Well, I can tell you when I first started, I had no idea. I wasn't doing anything to work on a brand, you know whatever?

Well, I can tell you when I first started, I had no idea. I wasn't doing anything to work on a brand, you know whatever?

Right?

Right?

I think over the years, once you build equity, when I say equity, when you build some cloud, some consistency, seeing people know that this is what this person is truly about. Then you start to really work on what your brand looks like. You know, some guys just think, well, if I can go in the field, I score a couple of touchdowns. You know, I have this brand that is X, Y and Z. Well, what is your goal long term? And I try to think about what are the things I want to accomplish as an individual, what positions I want to put myself in, my family in, and also how do I want to see and help families you know down the road. So you know, that really goes in developing a plan of how we want to you know, assist attack, but at the same time make people aware the things that I stand for. And now I try to associate myself with corporations and brands that are passionate about people. Right. I think if you think about my brand, it's more about you know, people, right, how can I help someone? You know, I'm passionate about that. It's not something that I don't feel like it's a job. I just get up and go every day. And if it's something that you're just passionate about it, you don't think it's a job. It's just something that you love to do. And for me, my brand, I think is really that it's more people on, people driven, because when you're building your brand and you're building relationships, that takes time. But it's a people's business. And I'm sure you've learned over the years that football sports, when you're dealing with these organizations, it is a people's business. And you know, you focus on building relationships, being strategic on how you build those relationships. But everything can't just be well, I got to get something out of this, you know in the beginning. Sometimes you got to build up your equity over time. Right, can't expect to be you know, take ten steps on day one. Just take one step, do something, build up the equity and build up the trust from other individuals that knowing that this person is consistent, they're reliable, and they're trustworthy. Once you build that, I think over the course of time that equity comes to partner your brand. It is what you make it right. I mean, I'm not a perfect person. I make mistakes. I'm human just like everyone else. But the way that I try to live my life is that I just want to be able to help individuals be better, help my community be better across this country. So you know, the branding, that's a complicated, you know thing in a sense, but you have to take those small incremental steps and think about the big picture at the end. Then you developed that plan to get there, and it has to be consistency as well.

I think over the years, once you build equity, when I say equity, when you build some cloud, some consistency, seeing people know that this is what this person is truly about. Then you start to really work on what your brand looks like. You know, some guys just think, well, if I can go in the field, I score a couple of touchdowns. You know, I have this brand that is X, Y and Z. Well, what is your goal long term? And I try to think about what are the things I want to accomplish as an individual, what positions I want to put myself in, my family in, and also how do I want to see and help families you know down the road. So you know, that really goes in developing a plan of how we want to you know, assist attack, but at the same time make people aware the things that I stand for. And now I try to associate myself with corporations and brands that are passionate about people. Right. I think if you think about my brand, it's more about you know, people, right, how can I help someone? You know, I'm passionate about that. It's not something that I don't feel like it's a job. I just get up and go every day. And if it's something that you're just passionate about it, you don't think it's a job. It's just something that you love to do. And for me, my brand, I think is really that it's more people on, people driven, because when you're building your brand and you're building relationships, that takes time. But it's a people's business. And I'm sure you've learned over the years that football sports, when you're dealing with these organizations, it is a people's business. And you know, you focus on building relationships, being strategic on how you build those relationships. But everything can't just be well, I got to get something out of this, you know in the beginning. Sometimes you got to build up your equity over time. Right, can't expect to be you know, take ten steps on day one. Just take one step, do something, build up the equity and build up the trust from other individuals that knowing that this person is consistent, they're reliable, and they're trustworthy. Once you build that, I think over the course of time that equity comes to partner your brand. It is what you make it right. I mean, I'm not a perfect person. I make mistakes. I'm human just like everyone else. But the way that I try to live my life is that I just want to be able to help individuals be better, help my community be better across this country. So you know, the branding, that's a complicated, you know thing in a sense, but you have to take those small incremental steps and think about the big picture at the end. Then you developed that plan to get there, and it has to be consistency as well.

Do you feel like that applies the whole nil naming, image, likeness deal passing and now being a part of college sports? Do you feel as though the educational components, the insight that you just provided is something that needs to now happen out of earlier age.

Do you feel like that applies the whole nil naming, image, likeness deal passing and now being a part of college sports? Do you feel as though the educational components, the insight that you just provided is something that needs to now happen out of earlier age.

Yeah, I no doubt. You know, if we have what these kids have now when we're in college, I mean, you know, they can make money, they can do appearances. Mentally, I think financially you're not in a position mentally to really manage and handle the financial responsibilities. So I think that's also provide an opportunity to a platform where they have strategic people in their lives that can help guide them and give them the right direction because they can't just live for today. I mean, for me, it's important we want to live a good life today, but think about the twenty thirty forty years from now, right, what type of life you want to live in, not just for yourself, you know, I mean for your kids, right, your family. You know, we have to learn to pass you know, pass stuff down to the next generation generation of wealth. How do we do that? Well, we have to plan for the future. But take advantage of the opportunity you have today, but don't spend it as if this is it, right, I mean, it is more about, you know, Okay, what do I need to live a good life? Okay, but now I have what I need. How can I now start planning and saving for the future so that I'm able to put you know, my kids help, you know, family members, whatever it is down the road, live a better life because we have we all have to come together on this journey. I mean, it's just the reality of it. And I just think these kids today, you know, they didn't grow up with the same values that we grew up because we struggled a lot harder. Now you're getting the instant contracts, or you're getting the marketing bills or those things. Put in the savings account, save it plan, don't use it. Still live on that on that you know, two dollars budget that we all lived on in college, right, Try to manage and people it's like, well you I've done pretty good with managing dollars. Well, I grew up my mom passed on a need basis, not the things that I want. And we not saying that you can't get the things that you want, but it's a plan that you have to have right and do it on a nee basis. And if the college kids can take advantage of the opportunities, take advantage of it. But now start saving for the future because you never know, not every college kid who gets the marketing it is going to play in the pros. That's just not going to That's the reality. So can you help this This money can't provide, you know, an opportunity for you to start, you know, charting your path and the things that you want to do and accomplishing life. So I would advise them to have the right you know, guidance or get the right people in their lives who are not just going to be yes people, but people who are going to be honest and have your best interest at heart.

Yeah, I no doubt. You know, if we have what these kids have now when we're in college, I mean, you know, they can make money, they can do appearances. Mentally, I think financially you're not in a position mentally to really manage and handle the financial responsibilities. So I think that's also provide an opportunity to a platform where they have strategic people in their lives that can help guide them and give them the right direction because they can't just live for today. I mean, for me, it's important we want to live a good life today, but think about the twenty thirty forty years from now, right, what type of life you want to live in, not just for yourself, you know, I mean for your kids, right, your family. You know, we have to learn to pass you know, pass stuff down to the next generation generation of wealth. How do we do that? Well, we have to plan for the future. But take advantage of the opportunity you have today, but don't spend it as if this is it, right, I mean, it is more about, you know, Okay, what do I need to live a good life? Okay, but now I have what I need. How can I now start planning and saving for the future so that I'm able to put you know, my kids help, you know, family members, whatever it is down the road, live a better life because we have we all have to come together on this journey. I mean, it's just the reality of it. And I just think these kids today, you know, they didn't grow up with the same values that we grew up because we struggled a lot harder. Now you're getting the instant contracts, or you're getting the marketing bills or those things. Put in the savings account, save it plan, don't use it. Still live on that on that you know, two dollars budget that we all lived on in college, right, Try to manage and people it's like, well you I've done pretty good with managing dollars. Well, I grew up my mom passed on a need basis, not the things that I want. And we not saying that you can't get the things that you want, but it's a plan that you have to have right and do it on a nee basis. And if the college kids can take advantage of the opportunities, take advantage of it. But now start saving for the future because you never know, not every college kid who gets the marketing it is going to play in the pros. That's just not going to That's the reality. So can you help this This money can't provide, you know, an opportunity for you to start, you know, charting your path and the things that you want to do and accomplishing life. So I would advise them to have the right you know, guidance or get the right people in their lives who are not just going to be yes people, but people who are going to be honest and have your best interest at heart.

All right.

All right.

So with all that being said, that led to you being able to and this is a humble brag on my bro you're a minority owner of the Atlanta Falcons.

So with all that being said, that led to you being able to and this is a humble brag on my bro you're a minority owner of the Atlanta Falcons.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, did that frame of mind position you. You talked about the branding and being able to build strategic relationships and lasting relationships, building towards the future, having your brand represent something that connects to the people. Do you feel like all of those things, along with what you just talked about in terms of being able to make your money and save your money and think long term, how much did that play a part into you leading up to being a minority owner for the Atlanta Falcons.

Yeah, did that frame of mind position you. You talked about the branding and being able to build strategic relationships and lasting relationships, building towards the future, having your brand represent something that connects to the people. Do you feel like all of those things, along with what you just talked about in terms of being able to make your money and save your money and think long term, how much did that play a part into you leading up to being a minority owner for the Atlanta Falcons.

One, I would tell you the most important thing that I built a relationship with mister Blank, Right. I mean when I first came to Atlanta, I met him and we didn't talk football. We talked about life, right. We talked about the impact that I wanted to make in the state of Atlanta and what he wanted to make because he was just becoming an owner. You know. I would say. The second thing is you I think I wasn't the highest paid player at my position. I mean, if you look back, I mean if I played in today's era, could be a lot different. But when I was playing, I was having to prove to everybody league that I'm only five eight, one hundred and eighty pounds, that I can play every down, I can play with the big boys, and you know, trying to make sure that I can stay health. I had a lot to prove. But my strategy has always been, you know, I need to make sure I put myself and my family stuff in a position, you know, to have a good future, and utilize the platforms to do that. And that's what I did. I mean, believe it or not, you know, I was able to manage money early on. You know, I was able to put money to becoming a partner because you just it's not a verbal agreement. I have to show it by giving money, you know. Pretty much he paid me to play with the Falcons and I had to give a lot of that money back to him to become a minority owner. But when you think about it, you know I just managed.

One, I would tell you the most important thing that I built a relationship with mister Blank, Right. I mean when I first came to Atlanta, I met him and we didn't talk football. We talked about life, right. We talked about the impact that I wanted to make in the state of Atlanta and what he wanted to make because he was just becoming an owner. You know. I would say. The second thing is you I think I wasn't the highest paid player at my position. I mean, if you look back, I mean if I played in today's era, could be a lot different. But when I was playing, I was having to prove to everybody league that I'm only five eight, one hundred and eighty pounds, that I can play every down, I can play with the big boys, and you know, trying to make sure that I can stay health. I had a lot to prove. But my strategy has always been, you know, I need to make sure I put myself and my family stuff in a position, you know, to have a good future, and utilize the platforms to do that. And that's what I did. I mean, believe it or not, you know, I was able to manage money early on. You know, I was able to put money to becoming a partner because you just it's not a verbal agreement. I have to show it by giving money, you know. Pretty much he paid me to play with the Falcons and I had to give a lot of that money back to him to become a minority owner. But when you think about it, you know I just managed.

It's brilliant.

It's brilliant.

I managed my money. But he asked me a quick question, you know, towards the end of my career, It's like, what are you going to do after football? No, he said, hey, do you want to go coach? You want to go you know, do this or I was like, no, I don't want to do that. I mean, so what you want to do. I said, I'd rather be up there with you in the box, right, And I mean he was just like, really okay, I said, yeah, I mean this my goal, isn't I had big expectations for myself or lofty goals, right. You know, but if you don't speak it or say it that.

I managed my money. But he asked me a quick question, you know, towards the end of my career, It's like, what are you going to do after football? No, he said, hey, do you want to go coach? You want to go you know, do this or I was like, no, I don't want to do that. I mean, so what you want to do. I said, I'd rather be up there with you in the box, right, And I mean he was just like, really okay, I said, yeah, I mean this my goal, isn't I had big expectations for myself or lofty goals, right. You know, but if you don't speak it or say it that.

It can't happen, it happened, right.

It can't happen, it happened, right.

I mean the reality is it may happen. It may not happen, but you have to have that positive attitude and that outlook on life that this is possible. I built a relationship with him, and I was always very transparent with mister Blank about the good, the bad, the ugly. I mean he would tell you I would call him about whatever, and I was able to call the owner of the team and I go through the GM. Not that I built a relationship with him and I was never in for myself. He can see that I cared about my teammates, you know, the organization. I just want to see us be better. And you know, after I got released from the Falcons, he said, one day, I would love to call you a partner. I had no idea what that meant. At that time. I was still trying to play football. I went a Tampa one more year and then I believe or not, he had three or four meetings about about becoming a partner, And believe it or not, he was just he cooked me dinner, had me over to his house, cook me dinners. Can work. This is something that you need to do. And I was still on the fence with it. But I was like, you know what, you know what, Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna work it out. And I just talked to my financial advisor says, okay, what can I how much you think I can do? You know this or that?

I mean the reality is it may happen. It may not happen, but you have to have that positive attitude and that outlook on life that this is possible. I built a relationship with him, and I was always very transparent with mister Blank about the good, the bad, the ugly. I mean he would tell you I would call him about whatever, and I was able to call the owner of the team and I go through the GM. Not that I built a relationship with him and I was never in for myself. He can see that I cared about my teammates, you know, the organization. I just want to see us be better. And you know, after I got released from the Falcons, he said, one day, I would love to call you a partner. I had no idea what that meant. At that time. I was still trying to play football. I went a Tampa one more year and then I believe or not, he had three or four meetings about about becoming a partner, And believe it or not, he was just he cooked me dinner, had me over to his house, cook me dinners. Can work. This is something that you need to do. And I was still on the fence with it. But I was like, you know what, you know what, Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna work it out. And I just talked to my financial advisor says, okay, what can I how much you think I can do? You know this or that?

It was like, right, if it's accurate, It was like north of forty up front.

It was like, right, if it's accurate, It was like north of forty up front.

Well, well, you know, I can't tell you all.

Well, well, you know, I can't tell you all.

Right, all right, but you're saying pretty right.

Right, all right, but you're saying pretty right.

Now out Well, it's a good investment, you know, it's a great investment. That's what you think about. You know, the return is come, I mean some, But let me just tell you a lot of times people feel like they need to give one hundred billion or ten million or whatever. It is an investment sometimes, you know, and we've heard this from a lot of billionaires. If you put one, you know, a million dollars into a billion dollars business. I mean that's a.

Now out Well, it's a good investment, you know, it's a great investment. That's what you think about. You know, the return is come, I mean some, But let me just tell you a lot of times people feel like they need to give one hundred billion or ten million or whatever. It is an investment sometimes, you know, and we've heard this from a lot of billionaires. If you put one, you know, a million dollars into a billion dollars business. I mean that's a.

You're not doing that, Yeah, you're not.

You're not doing that, Yeah, you're not.

I mean it's you know, so I just thought strategically, it's like, Okay, I don't have anything to prove to anybody else. This is an opportunity, right, I need. I want to make sure that still can live a comfortable life, still do the things I would like to do. But at the same time, I know that when I give this money, it's gone, right, I have to pretend it's gone. And it's a really great investment, so I can't complain. I mean, when I get the return, you know, it'll be good for the kids. Now you sell it for me. Yeah, But in reality.

I mean it's you know, so I just thought strategically, it's like, Okay, I don't have anything to prove to anybody else. This is an opportunity, right, I need. I want to make sure that still can live a comfortable life, still do the things I would like to do. But at the same time, I know that when I give this money, it's gone, right, I have to pretend it's gone. And it's a really great investment, so I can't complain. I mean, when I get the return, you know, it'll be good for the kids. Now you sell it for me. Yeah, But in reality.

Disney thinking, it's some Disney World thinking.

Disney thinking, it's some Disney World thinking.

Yeah. I mean it's just like eventually down the road, you know, it's just like they reaped the benefits of it, you know. I'm just saying, the generation of wealth. Yeah, and that's what it's about for me.

Yeah. I mean it's just like eventually down the road, you know, it's just like they reaped the benefits of it, you know. I'm just saying, the generation of wealth. Yeah, and that's what it's about for me.

All Right.

All Right.

That's dope, that's super dope. All right, let me let me, let me let me wrap you up. Well, there's two more questions I'm asking you.

That's dope, that's super dope. All right, let me let me, let me let me wrap you up. Well, there's two more questions I'm asking you.

One.

One.

I would be remissed if I didn't ask you, what is your favorite moment in memory with Coach Bowden. I mean, I gotta, I gotta capture that and and that's got to be something that that is a part of the historical value of one of the greatest men that that I've ever known of, and well.

I would be remissed if I didn't ask you, what is your favorite moment in memory with Coach Bowden. I mean, I gotta, I gotta capture that and and that's got to be something that that is a part of the historical value of one of the greatest men that that I've ever known of, and well.

Two of the greatest dudes that and men that I've known of. So what what.

Two of the greatest dudes that and men that I've known of. So what what.

Is one of the most memorable moments that you've ever had with him? And it could be the first time you met him when you were younger, it could be as a man. It could just give me one, give me one where it's like this one really really maybe define something for you.

Is one of the most memorable moments that you've ever had with him? And it could be the first time you met him when you were younger, it could be as a man. It could just give me one, give me one where it's like this one really really maybe define something for you.

Well, I can tell you one. This my freshman year, we planned South Bend playing Notre Dame and I told people, you know this before is that I'm out. You know everybody was slipping on the field in the first half. You know they grew the grass. You know this or that?

Well, I can tell you one. This my freshman year, we planned South Bend playing Notre Dame and I told people, you know this before is that I'm out. You know everybody was slipping on the field in the first half. You know they grew the grass. You know this or that?

I remember.

I remember.

And I was slipping, Brooks slipped, Charlie ware was slipping out there. And he called me out at halftime in front of the whole team and said, work, You're not in high school anymore. You can't be out there slipping this or that. I'm just like, I mean, you know I.

And I was slipping, Brooks slipped, Charlie ware was slipping out there. And he called me out at halftime in front of the whole team and said, work, You're not in high school anymore. You can't be out there slipping this or that. I'm just like, I mean, you know I.

Could figure it out. But Brooksy is slipping. Yeah, but we all slipped it.

Could figure it out. But Brooksy is slipping. Yeah, but we all slipped it.

Yeah, we all did. But I I just said, Okay, I went out in the second half. I did not slip. You know, I scored, you know, I think I remember I scored a touchdown. I had a really good second half. And I took that challenge right that you know that I need to rise above and you know, you can use me as an example all you want, but I'm approved to you that because you called me out, that I'm gonna go out there and make it happen. And I did in the second half, and that has stuck with me all these years, right, I mean, he was another example. My mom challenged me when I was a freshman in high school, I could take you out of this school because I was about to flunk out, or you can stay and proved to them that you can make it. And I decided myself that I'm gonna stay here. And I'm approved to him that I can make it this school because I went to all boys, predominant white Catholic private school. Honestly, I was at home many books, I was enjoying lunch and pe I had to go ahead and decide to buckle down. Took the same mentality from that challenge with my mom to coach Bowden. And you know, anytime anybody called me out, I didn't take it as a negative. That's calling me out in front of everybody. I took that as you know what, they're not going to do it again.

Yeah, we all did. But I I just said, Okay, I went out in the second half. I did not slip. You know, I scored, you know, I think I remember I scored a touchdown. I had a really good second half. And I took that challenge right that you know that I need to rise above and you know, you can use me as an example all you want, but I'm approved to you that because you called me out, that I'm gonna go out there and make it happen. And I did in the second half, and that has stuck with me all these years, right, I mean, he was another example. My mom challenged me when I was a freshman in high school, I could take you out of this school because I was about to flunk out, or you can stay and proved to them that you can make it. And I decided myself that I'm gonna stay here. And I'm approved to him that I can make it this school because I went to all boys, predominant white Catholic private school. Honestly, I was at home many books, I was enjoying lunch and pe I had to go ahead and decide to buckle down. Took the same mentality from that challenge with my mom to coach Bowden. And you know, anytime anybody called me out, I didn't take it as a negative. That's calling me out in front of everybody. I took that as you know what, they're not going to do it again.

Yeah, you the one to do it, though. I mean, that's how I would look at it. If Coach Bounce called me out, single me out, You the one to do it.

Yeah, you the one to do it, though. I mean, that's how I would look at it. If Coach Bounce called me out, single me out, You the one to do it.

I'm I'm the one to do it. That's why I had to call That's why you had to call me out. I'm the man.

I'm I'm the one to do it. That's why I had to call That's why you had to call me out. I'm the man.

I don't care how high the grass is. I don't care how what the grass is. Don't slip.

I don't care how high the grass is. I don't care how what the grass is. Don't slip.

No, I wasn't gonna let that happen. And you know, we almost came back and won that game in the second half. But I did go out and I didn't slip anymore. All right, that was gonna be my excuse.

No, I wasn't gonna let that happen. And you know, we almost came back and won that game in the second half. But I did go out and I didn't slip anymore. All right, that was gonna be my excuse.

Wow?

Wow?

All right, last one. I'm gonna leave you with what does work Done want his legacy to be? If you left here today when they give your eulogy, what would you want them to say about you?

All right, last one. I'm gonna leave you with what does work Done want his legacy to be? If you left here today when they give your eulogy, what would you want them to say about you?

Now, that's tough that I was a family man. I care about my family. That was first and foremost to me. The most important part of my life is my family. And I cared about people, right. I just I've been across this country and this world, and I've talked to people. I was in a community where they wrap their arms around my family when I lost my mom, and they taught me what it means to care about your neighbor and to give back. And for me, I just wanted to continue to spread my wings and be thankful that I had the opportunity. But I just care about seeing people live a better life. But the most important thing is they have to do their part. Right. Nothing is free. You can't just hand things out and expecting the one to value it. You do your part and I will help, right, And that's really what I'm about. I've had to do my part. You have to do your part because we all we all have to train, we have to work hard, we have to be committed to something, and we all need assistance to move forward in life. That's pretty much the thing that I would like people won you know to know about me, right that you know I played football, pro football. I never thought I'd played professional football and get drafted playing at one hundred and eighty five pounds at the most. You know, I got draft. I was one hundred and seventy. Think about what I had to prove just to play down in and down out. And now I'm thirty seven yards shot eleven thousand. I'm one of six guys in the National Football League with five hundred receptions, you know, over fifteen thousand yards of total offense. You know, when it comes to that running backs. I mean, it says a lot, but people don't think about the football thing. They just think about this is the guy who helps people. Well, this is the guy who gets there with the homes right, And That's what I'm known for, not you know what I did on the feeling, and I would like to be known as someone who played the game at the highest level and against the best. When I blocked Reggie White, Kevin Green, blocking you and all those, I mean, it wasn't like I was out there just chilling. I was out there playing and I ran for my life, and you know I was. I want to be an elite athlete football player because I'm very competitive, but also want to be the best human that I can be and I wish people would would would take that that you know, I was just as good as a football player, human being, vice versa. You know, it's all about that.

Now, that's tough that I was a family man. I care about my family. That was first and foremost to me. The most important part of my life is my family. And I cared about people, right. I just I've been across this country and this world, and I've talked to people. I was in a community where they wrap their arms around my family when I lost my mom, and they taught me what it means to care about your neighbor and to give back. And for me, I just wanted to continue to spread my wings and be thankful that I had the opportunity. But I just care about seeing people live a better life. But the most important thing is they have to do their part. Right. Nothing is free. You can't just hand things out and expecting the one to value it. You do your part and I will help, right, And that's really what I'm about. I've had to do my part. You have to do your part because we all we all have to train, we have to work hard, we have to be committed to something, and we all need assistance to move forward in life. That's pretty much the thing that I would like people won you know to know about me, right that you know I played football, pro football. I never thought I'd played professional football and get drafted playing at one hundred and eighty five pounds at the most. You know, I got draft. I was one hundred and seventy. Think about what I had to prove just to play down in and down out. And now I'm thirty seven yards shot eleven thousand. I'm one of six guys in the National Football League with five hundred receptions, you know, over fifteen thousand yards of total offense. You know, when it comes to that running backs. I mean, it says a lot, but people don't think about the football thing. They just think about this is the guy who helps people. Well, this is the guy who gets there with the homes right, And That's what I'm known for, not you know what I did on the feeling, and I would like to be known as someone who played the game at the highest level and against the best. When I blocked Reggie White, Kevin Green, blocking you and all those, I mean, it wasn't like I was out there just chilling. I was out there playing and I ran for my life, and you know I was. I want to be an elite athlete football player because I'm very competitive, but also want to be the best human that I can be and I wish people would would would take that that you know, I was just as good as a football player, human being, vice versa. You know, it's all about that.

Just super quick, because you mentioned your mom the entire interview and to know and I know you mentioned her passing, but to know how that impacted you in terms of what it what your responsibilities had to be based off of what happen. Just so people are clear when they hear this that if you're comfortable with that, I mean, it's well documented, you know, but just.

Just super quick, because you mentioned your mom the entire interview and to know and I know you mentioned her passing, but to know how that impacted you in terms of what it what your responsibilities had to be based off of what happen. Just so people are clear when they hear this that if you're comfortable with that, I mean, it's well documented, you know, but just.

Give up, like just before we go, just the idea.

Give up, like just before we go, just the idea.

And that was like right before your eighteenth birthday, right if I went correctly.

And that was like right before your eighteenth birthday, right if I went correctly.

Well, it was two days after my eighteenth birthday, I just turned eighteen, and two days later my mom, who's a Bedroom City police officer, was shot and killed in line of duty. She was making a routine that deposit at a at a bank with the grocery store manager, and two guys open fire on the police car. She's in a police unifarmer in a car and she lost her life. You know, from that, I just became the guardian that my brothers and sisters, being eighteen years old, just turning eighteen, I was responsible for them, so you know, I had to grow up really fast. Didn't have the best college life because I was so I was more focusing. A lot of my meetings with coach Bowden were about family. I would go to his office and sit to him, sit down with him and talk about, Okay, what I do in this situation with my brothers and sisters back home. I'm trying to raise kids, you know from Tallahassee over the phone and you know, go back and forth. So I had the ability to go home every break, every weekend that I had off, every summer, I went home. You know, I did it all. I did it all. But I think the most important thing that I did is that when I was a my second year in Tampa, the youngest three came to live with me. So being a professional football player just work of the year. Now I'm going to Pta means making sure that you know, I had to cooking meals every day. So I wasn't able to hang out with my teammates.

Well, it was two days after my eighteenth birthday, I just turned eighteen, and two days later my mom, who's a Bedroom City police officer, was shot and killed in line of duty. She was making a routine that deposit at a at a bank with the grocery store manager, and two guys open fire on the police car. She's in a police unifarmer in a car and she lost her life. You know, from that, I just became the guardian that my brothers and sisters, being eighteen years old, just turning eighteen, I was responsible for them, so you know, I had to grow up really fast. Didn't have the best college life because I was so I was more focusing. A lot of my meetings with coach Bowden were about family. I would go to his office and sit to him, sit down with him and talk about, Okay, what I do in this situation with my brothers and sisters back home. I'm trying to raise kids, you know from Tallahassee over the phone and you know, go back and forth. So I had the ability to go home every break, every weekend that I had off, every summer, I went home. You know, I did it all. I did it all. But I think the most important thing that I did is that when I was a my second year in Tampa, the youngest three came to live with me. So being a professional football player just work of the year. Now I'm going to Pta means making sure that you know, I had to cooking meals every day. So I wasn't able to hang out with my teammates.

Right I was parent parented.

Right I was parent parented.

I was going to football games on Friday nights, not hanging out with my teammates on Friday nights. I was doing everything a parent would do you and you know for me, I you know, that was my life. But because you know, I was the oldest of six, being responsible for my brothers and sisters, you know, I felt it was important that I do that. My mom, you know, she she left me that responsibility. So that's what I had to do, and I'm just thankful that I was, you know, put in a situation that I was mentally strong and able to provide for them.

I was going to football games on Friday nights, not hanging out with my teammates on Friday nights. I was doing everything a parent would do you and you know for me, I you know, that was my life. But because you know, I was the oldest of six, being responsible for my brothers and sisters, you know, I felt it was important that I do that. My mom, you know, she she left me that responsibility. So that's what I had to do, and I'm just thankful that I was, you know, put in a situation that I was mentally strong and able to provide for them.

You're one of the most extraordinary dudes I've ever known.

You're one of the most extraordinary dudes I've ever known.

World real cof like real strong bromh

World real cof like real strong bromh