What's up?

What's up?

Everybody's LaVar Arrington here, and it is a big conversation with coach Franklin this week. Obviously coming off of the loss against Ohio State, we talk about that, but we took the positives away and moved on and talked about what's going on with Washington and what needs to happen in that game as well.

Everybody's LaVar Arrington here, and it is a big conversation with coach Franklin this week. Obviously coming off of the loss against Ohio State, we talk about that, but we took the positives away and moved on and talked about what's going on with Washington and what needs to happen in that game as well.

Get buckled in.

Get buckled in.

You'll want to hear this great candid conversation with coach Franklin. This is quite Franklin with Coach Franklin and LeVar Arrington coming at you right now. Coach, it's a big one. It was a big one. It was a heartbreaker. And I just want to start off with the question of for me personally, I want I want this to be a part of the discussion of this interview because I like placing myself in your shoes and I like to understand and try to, you know, pick through things.

You'll want to hear this great candid conversation with coach Franklin. This is quite Franklin with Coach Franklin and LeVar Arrington coming at you right now. Coach, it's a big one. It was a big one. It was a heartbreaker. And I just want to start off with the question of for me personally, I want I want this to be a part of the discussion of this interview because I like placing myself in your shoes and I like to understand and try to, you know, pick through things.

Because it's just.

Because it's just.

Cool to me to be able to come in and have a conversation with you and compare how I would have thought about it in that position versus what you're thinking.

Cool to me to be able to come in and have a conversation with you and compare how I would have thought about it in that position versus what you're thinking.

So it's pretty cool for me.

So it's pretty cool for me.

One thing that jumped out at me right away after the game, was listening to the amount of anger towards you directly, and you know the student who was calling out that you know you responded to and it went viral the chance in the tunnel on your way to the locker room. I'm just curious because in my mind, I'm thinking about how do I handle that? How would I handle a heartbreaking loss? Understanding that the fans are going to be upset? But where is I think? I'll tell you what got me is your family was with you. And a lot of times people fail to understand that there's this hard line, like where's the line get blurred between family and profession? And you had your family taking walking with you. That's what hit me.

One thing that jumped out at me right away after the game, was listening to the amount of anger towards you directly, and you know the student who was calling out that you know you responded to and it went viral the chance in the tunnel on your way to the locker room. I'm just curious because in my mind, I'm thinking about how do I handle that? How would I handle a heartbreaking loss? Understanding that the fans are going to be upset? But where is I think? I'll tell you what got me is your family was with you. And a lot of times people fail to understand that there's this hard line, like where's the line get blurred between family and profession? And you had your family taking walking with you. That's what hit me.

In the heart.

In the heart.

That hit me in the heart, and I felt like, how would I digestic? How would I handle this? I'm curious, how do you digestice? How do you handle that and get going towards the next week after a game like this?

That hit me in the heart, and I felt like, how would I digestic? How would I handle this? I'm curious, how do you digestice? How do you handle that and get going towards the next week after a game like this?

Well, I think that's the challenge, right You don't get to digest it like it happens and then you're dealing with it right away. You're dealing with it walking off the field, You're dealing with it with the media and the press, So I guess it's funny because I'm like you. So the first thing I try to do in any situation, personally or professionally, is I try to look at it from the other lens, Like the fans are passionate, they're angry, they're invested. So I can respect that and I can appreciate that because I also know that we're blessed to play in front of eleven one hundred and eleven thousand fans, which doesn't happen, which doesn't happen unless there's passion and commitment there. But you know, I do think there's a there's a line that you don't cross, and I think there's a line that I can't allow to be crossed as a man. So for me, the first thing I said to my daughter is I said, hey, you know, let me walk through here by myself, you know, let's get together afterwards. And she was like, no, I'm walking with you.

Well, I think that's the challenge, right You don't get to digest it like it happens and then you're dealing with it right away. You're dealing with it walking off the field, You're dealing with it with the media and the press, So I guess it's funny because I'm like you. So the first thing I try to do in any situation, personally or professionally, is I try to look at it from the other lens, Like the fans are passionate, they're angry, they're invested. So I can respect that and I can appreciate that because I also know that we're blessed to play in front of eleven one hundred and eleven thousand fans, which doesn't happen, which doesn't happen unless there's passion and commitment there. But you know, I do think there's a there's a line that you don't cross, and I think there's a line that I can't allow to be crossed as a man. So for me, the first thing I said to my daughter is I said, hey, you know, let me walk through here by myself, you know, let's get together afterwards. And she was like, no, I'm walking with you.

So I'm already trying to steparate.

So I'm already trying to steparate.

I'm trying to separate that so she's not in the heat of it, right, And then the young man's screaming. I just took a deep breath, let him scream, and I just I asked him what his name was, because to me, that's a little bit of the problem we have in our society now is whether it's on social media or blogs or whatever, people don't want to put their name on things like that man. That young man, I'll say, earn the right to have an opinion by buying a ticket, whether it's a free student ticket or he bought it or whatever it is. He's earned the right to have an opinion. But put your name on it.

I'm trying to separate that so she's not in the heat of it, right, And then the young man's screaming. I just took a deep breath, let him scream, and I just I asked him what his name was, because to me, that's a little bit of the problem we have in our society now is whether it's on social media or blogs or whatever, people don't want to put their name on things like that man. That young man, I'll say, earn the right to have an opinion by buying a ticket, whether it's a free student ticket or he bought it or whatever it is. He's earned the right to have an opinion. But put your name on it.

But put your name. If you're gonna go on social media and us say.

But put your name. If you're gonna go on social media and us say.

Something, or you're gonna bark something out, put your name on it and own up to what you're saying.

Something, or you're gonna bark something out, put your name on it and own up to what you're saying.

So I didn't so crazy. I just I said, what's your name?

So I didn't so crazy. I just I said, what's your name?

And he started stuttering and backing up, you know, and then you and then you walk through the crowd and again I put myself in their shoes, and there's the passion and the commitment and all those types of things.

And he started stuttering and backing up, you know, and then you and then you walk through the crowd and again I put myself in their shoes, and there's the passion and the commitment and all those types of things.

So so I get it. I get it.

So so I get it. I get it.

What I what I What I also do, though, is I try to look at it from from the other perspective. I look at what we've done here in eleven years.

What I what I What I also do, though, is I try to look at it from from the other perspective. I look at what we've done here in eleven years.

I look what.

I look what.

I've done in my entire coaching career at a at a previous school, and I'll put our record up against anybody it. You know, the type of job you get and when you get the job all factors into it.

I've done in my entire coaching career at a at a previous school, and I'll put our record up against anybody it. You know, the type of job you get and when you get the job all factors into it.

And I think at the end of the day, I'm just sitting.

And I think at the end of the day, I'm just sitting.

Here saying to myself, the players and the staff and myself.

Here saying to myself, the players and the staff and myself.

The college football Playoff ranking.

The college football Playoff ranking.

Just came out and were ranked six in the We're ranked sixth in that pole, and I think in most of them were anywhere between five, six and seven somewhere in almost every pole.

Just came out and were ranked six in the We're ranked sixth in that pole, and I think in most of them were anywhere between five, six and seven somewhere in almost every pole.

And again, I get it.

And again, I get it.

I get the disappointment of that game and the magnitude of that game, but in today's college football, very few people are getting through this thing unscathed. And I just don't know if we should be having that type of feelings when we're in a position that ninety nine percent of the programs in the country would die to be in this position and have never been in this position in their history, never been ranked number three in the country.

I get the disappointment of that game and the magnitude of that game, but in today's college football, very few people are getting through this thing unscathed. And I just don't know if we should be having that type of feelings when we're in a position that ninety nine percent of the programs in the country would die to be in this position and have never been in this position in their history, never been ranked number three in the country.

I've never been ranked number six in the country.

I've never been ranked number six in the country.

So at the end of the day, we have got to flush this move on and we got to play against Washington well enough to win, but we also have to get better, because for us.

So at the end of the day, we have got to flush this move on and we got to play against Washington well enough to win, but we also have to get better, because for us.

To beat teams like that in the future, we got to get better.

To beat teams like that in the future, we got to get better.

And all that other stuff doesn't help us get better. So we gotta flush it, take it for what it is, learn from it, and move on.

And all that other stuff doesn't help us get better. So we gotta flush it, take it for what it is, learn from it, and move on.

All right. I think that's a great segue.

All right. I think that's a great segue.

And and I don't know, you're you're you're a better You're you're a good man, is what I'll say, because I I don't know how I would have handled that moment, especially if if my family's right there with me and I'm supposed to be to people who are supporting me. It's just that that's a hard one. You're a better person than I am.

And and I don't know, you're you're you're a better You're you're a good man, is what I'll say, because I I don't know how I would have handled that moment, especially if if my family's right there with me and I'm supposed to be to people who are supporting me. It's just that that's a hard one. You're a better person than I am.

But let me say this to LeVar, and I probably should stop before I get going, But I think the people that really know college football, not not not just Penn State. They know college football. They've lived it, they've experienced it, they've studied it. Those people are unbelievably supportive because they truly know all the dynamics on a national scale, and they know all the dynamics here LeVar, Like, the people that truly know are are.

But let me say this to LeVar, and I probably should stop before I get going, But I think the people that really know college football, not not not just Penn State. They know college football. They've lived it, they've experienced it, they've studied it. Those people are unbelievably supportive because they truly know all the dynamics on a national scale, and they know all the dynamics here LeVar, Like, the people that truly know are are.

Really really supportive.

Really really supportive.

So you know, I think that's something that I think really helps me is the people that really know college football and the people that really know some of the challenges that we've had are very very supportive.

So you know, I think that's something that I think really helps me is the people that really know college football and the people that really know some of the challenges that we've had are very very supportive.

So so that that helps.

So so that that helps.

I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. I really am, because you know what you're You're right. Seeing the positive isn't is definitely more valuable than addressing what the negative of it was. So I'm I'm I'm glad you said that. That makes that helps me put it in perspective as well. So what we're what were the takeaways? Like you've had a little bit of time to digest it and put it in terms of how do we get better from what we did this past weekend.

I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. I really am, because you know what you're You're right. Seeing the positive isn't is definitely more valuable than addressing what the negative of it was. So I'm I'm I'm glad you said that. That makes that helps me put it in perspective as well. So what we're what were the takeaways? Like you've had a little bit of time to digest it and put it in terms of how do we get better from what we did this past weekend.

I know, I went on radio.

I know, I went on radio.

I gave an opinion, and my opinion was and listen, I'm I'm not I'm not a sideline coach. So I gave my opinion as an analyst, not as I know what's going on.

I gave an opinion, and my opinion was and listen, I'm I'm not I'm not a sideline coach. So I gave my opinion as an analyst, not as I know what's going on.

And I was careful.

And I was careful.

Because you know, obviously it's my school and my relationship that I have with you and the rest of the team. But I said, I felt like we were a little conservative, and I felt like we lost we lost the edge on defense, like they were able to gain our ads. They outflanked us, but on and on offense, I'm like, I wanted to see us go downfield.

Because you know, obviously it's my school and my relationship that I have with you and the rest of the team. But I said, I felt like we were a little conservative, and I felt like we lost we lost the edge on defense, like they were able to gain our ads. They outflanked us, but on and on offense, I'm like, I wanted to see us go downfield.

I don't.

I don't.

I don't know if it's because Drew held the ball, I don't. I don't want a finger point. I just know my my criticism or my observation was, I felt like we were conservative when I don't think that Ohio State deserve best to go ten fifteen yard passes.

I don't know if it's because Drew held the ball, I don't. I don't want a finger point. I just know my my criticism or my observation was, I felt like we were conservative when I don't think that Ohio State deserve best to go ten fifteen yard passes.

We should have went at them. That was my take.

We should have went at them. That was my take.

Now that's been getting out of the way of it, But what was your take on it.

Now that's been getting out of the way of it, But what was your take on it.

I think that's fair, right, but I think again, there's a lot of things that go into that, right. I thought defensively, we played really well except for three drives. They had a really good plan on two drives where they got unbound, gotten unbalanced, and they they outflanked us. And then the last drive when we went for it and got stopped at the one, you know, and they were able to basically go four minutes those three drives.

I think that's fair, right, but I think again, there's a lot of things that go into that, right. I thought defensively, we played really well except for three drives. They had a really good plan on two drives where they got unbound, gotten unbalanced, and they they outflanked us. And then the last drive when we went for it and got stopped at the one, you know, and they were able to basically go four minutes those three drives.

I don't think we played the way we played the rest of the.

I don't think we played the way we played the rest of the.

Game against a team that was scoring forty points a game and we held them to twenty. So I will say this, I think we played well enough on defense to win. I do believe that, but I think it was three drives. I don't think we played up to our standard offensively.

Game against a team that was scoring forty points a game and we held them to twenty. So I will say this, I think we played well enough on defense to win. I do believe that, but I think it was three drives. I don't think we played up to our standard offensively.

A couple things. I'll answer your question.

A couple things. I'll answer your question.

First, we call shots, but if the shots aren't there, you can't just take them.

First, we call shots, but if the shots aren't there, you can't just take them.

This is like last year when people are like, just chuck it deep.

This is like last year when people are like, just chuck it deep.

Like we called shots, but if they're not there, you got to take the checkdown, You got to take the underneath routes. But here's the bigger issue really for both our offense and defense. We weren't able to run the ball and get ahead of the sticks on first down and they were. So that changes the game. When you're ahead of the sticks on first down, it allows you to take more shots on second down because you're in manageable situations if you don't hit them to still convert on third down. So us not being able to run the ball the way we needed to in that game in drives, it affects everything. So people say, well, you're not taking enough shots down the field. Well, we call shots, but if they're not there, you got to take the checkdown. But you actually called less shots if you're not as effective on first down so.

Like we called shots, but if they're not there, you got to take the checkdown, You got to take the underneath routes. But here's the bigger issue really for both our offense and defense. We weren't able to run the ball and get ahead of the sticks on first down and they were. So that changes the game. When you're ahead of the sticks on first down, it allows you to take more shots on second down because you're in manageable situations if you don't hit them to still convert on third down. So us not being able to run the ball the way we needed to in that game in drives, it affects everything. So people say, well, you're not taking enough shots down the field. Well, we call shots, but if they're not there, you got to take the checkdown. But you actually called less shots if you're not as effective on first down so.

Can I follow up?

Can I follow up?

Because the interesting thing about your point is I felt as though Ohio State's defense was able to settle in on a set that was working because they were preparing for the run.

Because the interesting thing about your point is I felt as though Ohio State's defense was able to settle in on a set that was working because they were preparing for the run.

They were gearing up to stop the run.

They were gearing up to stop the run.

Like, so, how if that's like what they're in their minds, because I felt like they got comfortable with loading and crowding the line to stop the run. They were really they were bringing an extra man down to stop the run against us, How like, do we still stay tied to trying to run it or do we you know? Because I felt like if we did establish more of a threat in the passing game, then now it may give it may alleviate some of the pressure and strain on the running game because every time we passed and it broke down, drew space, which means to me, if they're covering, we definitely could find space in this defense. In my mind, that's that's how I was taking it in what like.

Like, so, how if that's like what they're in their minds, because I felt like they got comfortable with loading and crowding the line to stop the run. They were really they were bringing an extra man down to stop the run against us, How like, do we still stay tied to trying to run it or do we you know? Because I felt like if we did establish more of a threat in the passing game, then now it may give it may alleviate some of the pressure and strain on the running game because every time we passed and it broke down, drew space, which means to me, if they're covering, we definitely could find space in this defense. In my mind, that's that's how I was taking it in what like.

Yeah, that's why I think that's why the opening drive was so effective. And when I say and when I say first and second down, I'm really talking about that together. So if you run the ball first down and you get ahead of the sticks that allows you to push the ball down the more on second out, or if you throw the ball on first down and either don't get it or do get it, then now you're probably gonna have to run it on second down to get back on the schedule.

Yeah, that's why I think that's why the opening drive was so effective. And when I say and when I say first and second down, I'm really talking about that together. So if you run the ball first down and you get ahead of the sticks that allows you to push the ball down the more on second out, or if you throw the ball on first down and either don't get it or do get it, then now you're probably gonna have to run it on second down to get back on the schedule.

And I guess my point is, you.

And I guess my point is, you.

Still got to be able to run the ball even when they're committed to stopping it. No different than they did to us. Like I said, everybody in the stadium knew they were going to run that last drive and they were able to do it, So you got to give them credit there. But it's just like the creativity, right, like the goal line drive, we run it vertical with fat, which more.

Still got to be able to run the ball even when they're committed to stopping it. No different than they did to us. Like I said, everybody in the stadium knew they were going to run that last drive and they were able to do it, So you got to give them credit there. But it's just like the creativity, right, like the goal line drive, we run it vertical with fat, which more.

Times than not, Fat's gonna right. So we run downhill, we run downhill, doesn't work.

Times than not, Fat's gonna right. So we run downhill, we run downhill, doesn't work.

Everybody says you should be more creative.

Everybody says you should be more creative.

I've also seen and been on the other end of that where you're creative and it doesn't work, and then what does everybody say, you should.

I've also seen and been on the other end of that where you're creative and it doesn't work, and then what does everybody say, you should.

Have ran down hill? So yeah, I get it.

Have ran down hill? So yeah, I get it.

I get it when it doesn't work after the fact, I totally get it.

I get it when it doesn't work after the fact, I totally get it.

I totally get it.

I totally get it.

You know, they had a good plan, Uh, they got talent, they got skill, and we didn't execute.

You know, they had a good plan, Uh, they got talent, they got skill, and we didn't execute.

The reality is.

The reality is.

We turned the ball over inside the five and don't score on a goal line.

We turned the ball over inside the five and don't score on a goal line.

Stand.

Stand.

You handle those two things differently. It's a different game, and that's also why people are so frustrated. The interesting thing is by us losing almost every one of those games, either by one possession or one point, it's more pain to everybody involved.

You handle those two things differently. It's a different game, and that's also why people are so frustrated. The interesting thing is by us losing almost every one of those games, either by one possession or one point, it's more pain to everybody involved.

The coaches, the fans, the media.

The coaches, the fans, the media.

If you get blown out by twenty one points, you're embarrassed, but it's not the same anger because you can taste it, right, So all those things.

If you get blown out by twenty one points, you're embarrassed, but it's not the same anger because you can taste it, right, So all those things.

Play a factor. It's not just that we've lost to these guys.

Play a factor. It's not just that we've lost to these guys.

We've lost and it's been so close and it's been winnable. One play goes a different direction, one ball bounces a different direction, one call from.

We've lost and it's been so close and it's been winnable. One play goes a different direction, one ball bounces a different direction, one call from.

The officials on fifty to fifty calls. And I'm the last guy.

The officials on fifty to fifty calls. And I'm the last guy.

That's going to be sitting here blaming officials. But my point is they're fifty to fifty calls. They can go either.

That's going to be sitting here blaming officials. But my point is they're fifty to fifty calls. They can go either.

Way, and we didn't get one of a couple. Right.

Way, and we didn't get one of a couple. Right.

Yeah, So it's all that, and I think that's where people get so angry because you can taste it.

Yeah, So it's all that, and I think that's where people get so angry because you can taste it.

Yeah, it makes sense, all right, we were up on our time. I'm gonna just ask you because it's more important to me for one to talk to you as a person, not so much as as the coach.

Yeah, it makes sense, all right, we were up on our time. I'm gonna just ask you because it's more important to me for one to talk to you as a person, not so much as as the coach.

That's to me.

That's to me.

I think that's what's special about the show that we do is that, you know, we connect on a different level, so you know, f all this other stuff like I'm always keeping a bean and to keep it a buck from my hit, I'm always rit with Coach Franklin. People know that, So I think that I always want to make sure people know that. So what, I don't care if they know. I don't care, Like it doesn't have to be a big secret. That that's that's I love, Like I love you as a person. That doesn't have to be a secret, you know what I mean. It's like almost like people make it seem like these are the moments where it's like I'm an apologist for James Franklin and this and that and the other. You know what, maybe I am. I use facts. I just asked you a hard question. I gave you a heart. I gave your heart.

I think that's what's special about the show that we do is that, you know, we connect on a different level, so you know, f all this other stuff like I'm always keeping a bean and to keep it a buck from my hit, I'm always rit with Coach Franklin. People know that, So I think that I always want to make sure people know that. So what, I don't care if they know. I don't care, Like it doesn't have to be a big secret. That that's that's I love, Like I love you as a person. That doesn't have to be a secret, you know what I mean. It's like almost like people make it seem like these are the moments where it's like I'm an apologist for James Franklin and this and that and the other. You know what, maybe I am. I use facts. I just asked you a hard question. I gave you a heart. I gave your heart.

I think that's my point is you love your school and you love the coaches because you've gotten to know us as men.

I think that's my point is you love your school and you love the coaches because you've gotten to know us as men.

Indeed.

Indeed.

And and if you if you got on this and it was all softball questions, then that's fine.

And and if you if you got on this and it was all softball questions, then that's fine.

But you're that's a tough question.

But you're that's a tough question.

You asked me about about the fans and the reaction. So it's not like I'm getting on the show and it's just softballs. You're asking me tough questions, but you're doing it in a respectful way, and God forbid.

You asked me about about the fans and the reaction. So it's not like I'm getting on the show and it's just softballs. You're asking me tough questions, but you're doing it in a respectful way, and God forbid.

That's how people interact with each other.

That's how people interact with each other.

And you know what, And that's that's what I wanted to make clear. That's I want to make sure that that was clear because a lot of people come at me and it's like they ask me that I'm always gonna protect the best interest of Penn State.

And you know what, And that's that's what I wanted to make clear. That's I want to make sure that that was clear because a lot of people come at me and it's like they ask me that I'm always gonna protect the best interest of Penn State.

That's that's me. That's all that's branded in my heart.

That's that's me. That's all that's branded in my heart.

That means I'm gonna protect the person that's leading our team too, Like I don't.

That means I'm gonna protect the person that's leading our team too, Like I don't.

I'm not.

I'm not.

It's kind of interesting because it forced me to think about it just because how big the game was. But it's like, I don't, like, why do I have to sacrifice one? If anything, you should be protecting him just like I'm protecting him. In my mind, that's how I envision it, because you're the one that's leading us right, So that's a whole other thing. I get off my soapbox on it because there's some certain things that I just feel like, community wise, we should always be pushing towards the same direction, but.

It's kind of interesting because it forced me to think about it just because how big the game was. But it's like, I don't, like, why do I have to sacrifice one? If anything, you should be protecting him just like I'm protecting him. In my mind, that's how I envision it, because you're the one that's leading us right, So that's a whole other thing. I get off my soapbox on it because there's some certain things that I just feel like, community wise, we should always be pushing towards the same direction, but.

Especially when ninety nine of the things are positive.

Especially when ninety nine of the things are positive.

Yeah, I hear you. I hear you.

Yeah, I hear you. I hear you.

So staying on a positive note to finish it out, how do we approach this Washington game?

So staying on a positive note to finish it out, how do we approach this Washington game?

I know it's all oh.

I know it's all oh.

No, but by not talking about this other one that you're the only person I'm still talking about this last one Wednesday.

No, but by not talking about this other one that you're the only person I'm still talking about this last one Wednesday.

I know that's what I had to answer. But we got to move on and we got a flush.

I know that's what I had to answer. But we got to move on and we got a flush.

It's hard to do because when they leave the football building, everybody else is still talking about it.

It's hard to do because when they leave the football building, everybody else is still talking about it.

We got to move on.

We got to move on.

Yeah, and that's that's like, that's that's it, like business as usual, Like gotta get it done with Washington.

Yeah, and that's that's like, that's that's it, like business as usual, Like gotta get it done with Washington.

Like that's we gotta be one to oh this week.

Like that's we gotta be one to oh this week.

And if we do that, we still got a chance to do everything we wanted to do in the beginning of the season.

And if we do that, we still got a chance to do everything we wanted to do in the beginning of the season.

So I need to know, man, hey, man, keep the main thing, the main thing, that's all, you know what I mean? You coach Frank uh you're a bad man, that's all. Hold the course, hold the I see you this weekend, all right.

So I need to know, man, hey, man, keep the main thing, the main thing, that's all, you know what I mean? You coach Frank uh you're a bad man, that's all. Hold the course, hold the I see you this weekend, all right.

That was Coach.

That was Coach.

Franklin, and well, we talked about it. We talked about the heartbreaking laws, we talked about the interaction with with the fans, we talked about what happened on the field, and he's right, we gotta flush it and we got to move on.

Franklin, and well, we talked about it. We talked about the heartbreaking laws, we talked about the interaction with with the fans, we talked about what happened on the field, and he's right, we gotta flush it and we got to move on.

That's Coach Franklin.

That's Coach Franklin.

You can hear it the whole entire deal at disrupt You PSU dot com. Make sure you check it out and go to disrupt you PSU on the social webs as well, Instagram, uh, the X you know all of those things. You can catch us there, and you can catch me at King of the Mammals on Instagram and LeVar Arrington at X. So we'll talk to you next time next week. All right, y'all be good, y'all be well. This was quite Franklin with the coach himself, James Franklin and me.

You can hear it the whole entire deal at disrupt You PSU dot com. Make sure you check it out and go to disrupt you PSU on the social webs as well, Instagram, uh, the X you know all of those things. You can catch us there, and you can catch me at King of the Mammals on Instagram and LeVar Arrington at X. So we'll talk to you next time next week. All right, y'all be good, y'all be well. This was quite Franklin with the coach himself, James Franklin and me.

You're guy the Hall of Steamer Bafar Airringsoner. You're to talk to you next time.

You're guy the Hall of Steamer Bafar Airringsoner. You're to talk to you next time.

H m hmm.

H m hmm.