In this episode of Untidy we talk to Sean Szeps, host of the popular podcast, ‘Come Out Wherever You Are’, and author of ‘Not Like Other Dads’. As well as a writer, podcaster and content creator, Sean is most well-known for his accidental advocacy, which arose from sharing his journey as a gay dad raising boy-girl twins alongside his husband, Josh. 

We speak to Sean about what it was like growing up in a conservative Roman Catholic home whilst grappling with his sexuality. We talk about his coming out story and how he and his family dealt with the response of their community and their church. We also discuss gender roles in the family home, and how Sean and his partner Josh had the opportunity to reframe parental roles with a ‘blank slate’ rather than start with assumed duties based on gender. 

Sean also shares hilariously relatable parenting videos on his Instagram, which are great for a giggle. Check out Sean’s Instagram @seanszeps, and you can order his new book ‘Not Like Other Dads’ here; a wonderful book empowering straight and queer parents alike to rewrite the parenting script.

Untidy podcast is about honouring the person within the parent. Follow the show and get in touch on Instagram @untidypodcast. Find Matilda at @matootles and get your copy of The Feel Good Guide. Find Hannah at @hannahedavison and @mybigmoments. Visit My Big Moments for kids’ books that make your tricky job of parenting a whole lot easier.

Untidy podcast is co-produced and edited by Popsock Media, and hosted by rova. Untidy is proud to also be supported by My Big Moments – kids’ books backed by research and Kiwi ingenuity to make your tricky job of parenting a whole lot easier.

Thanks for listening! If you enjoyed the show, please share it with friends and drop us a rating and review so we can keep bringing you Untidy conversations! 

In this episode of Untidy we talk to Sean Szeps, host of the popular podcast, ‘<a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/BTdfCnxyMpi6vgYLFJvn_M?domain=open.spotify.com" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/BTdfCnxyMpi6vgYLFJvn_M?domain%3Dopen.spotify.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Xl8-iU6Foy6Q-ceis906Q">Come Out Wherever You Are</a>’, and author of ‘<a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/GnjPCoVzNqHKE50GSVwyGQ?domain=womensbookshop.co.nz" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/GnjPCoVzNqHKE50GSVwyGQ?domain%3Dwomensbookshop.co.nz&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1ifFMTH-1iesYRtyZ0cVkD">Not Like Other Dads</a>’. As well as a writer, podcaster and content creator, Sean is most well-known for his accidental advocacy, which arose from sharing his journey as a gay dad raising boy-girl twins alongside his husband, Josh. 
We speak to Sean about what it was like growing up in a conservative Roman Catholic home whilst grappling with his sexuality. We talk about his coming out story and how he and his family dealt with the response of their community and their church. We also discuss gender roles in the family home, and how Sean and his partner Josh had the opportunity to reframe parental roles with a ‘blank slate’ rather than start with assumed duties based on gender. 
Sean also shares hilariously relatable parenting videos on his Instagram, which are great for a giggle. Check out Sean’s Instagram <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/GclkCp8AO0ixmqBLSGB3B_?domain=instagram.com" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/GclkCp8AO0ixmqBLSGB3B_?domain%3Dinstagram.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2giPLCY1RK84CBJMHYn9SO">@seanszeps</a>, and you can order his new book ‘Not Like Other Dads’ <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/GnjPCoVzNqHKE50GSVwyGQ?domain=womensbookshop.co.nz" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/GnjPCoVzNqHKE50GSVwyGQ?domain%3Dwomensbookshop.co.nz&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1ifFMTH-1iesYRtyZ0cVkD">here</a>; a wonderful book empowering straight and queer parents alike to rewrite the parenting script.
Untidy podcast is about honouring the person within the parent. Follow the show and get in touch on Instagram <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/3GF2Cq7BPvF7ZnoriNNjGB?domain=instagram.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/3GF2Cq7BPvF7ZnoriNNjGB?domain%3Dinstagram.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2-oelOZcnI3sOMeZ8cONAh">@untidypodcast</a>. Find Matilda at <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/UKkkCr8DQwiDE7GjtNHKOq?domain=instagram.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/UKkkCr8DQwiDE7GjtNHKOq?domain%3Dinstagram.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1-v60xdOrMtsM9TKJF3s85">@matootles</a> and get your copy of <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/FWW0Cvl0XAiyxq3gUyTpZ7?domain=whitcoulls.co.nz" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/FWW0Cvl0XAiyxq3gUyTpZ7?domain%3Dwhitcoulls.co.nz&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0OgaZ6u_13Jgkej8EK1cHt">The Feel Good Guide</a>. Find Hannah at <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/ujbeCwVLYBHRKkWQIQXBew?domain=instagram.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/ujbeCwVLYBHRKkWQIQXBew?domain%3Dinstagram.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3FLDMj4R9ri6E034sDw_qS">@hannahedavison</a> and <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/krIyCxnMZDCQkD30SAkX2N?domain=instagram.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/krIyCxnMZDCQkD30SAkX2N?domain%3Dinstagram.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1n2bXpRV1ybyiaR0wpQdTU">@mybigmoments</a>. Visit <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/sh0wCyoN1EcyZKRWUkYtI6?domain=mybigmoments.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/sh0wCyoN1EcyZKRWUkYtI6?domain%3Dmybigmoments.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2sRaZI6g0ZTFcltlq2vOUE">My Big Moments</a> for kids’ books that make your tricky job of parenting a whole lot easier.
Untidy podcast is co-produced and edited by <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/zEWTCzvO2Gim6EABCJGvvX?domain=popsockmedia.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/zEWTCzvO2Gim6EABCJGvvX?domain%3Dpopsockmedia.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1HqSvj7bZQKhC_92VdyryB">Popsock Media</a>, and hosted by <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/CvBoCANZJ5S14BzoiJXEVA?domain=rova.nz" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/CvBoCANZJ5S14BzoiJXEVA?domain%3Drova.nz&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw36rh60gsquMykoiIO-Q99A">rova</a>. Untidy is proud to also be supported by <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/sh0wCyoN1EcyZKRWUkYtI6?domain=mybigmoments.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/sh0wCyoN1EcyZKRWUkYtI6?domain%3Dmybigmoments.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693544887111000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2sRaZI6g0ZTFcltlq2vOUE">My Big Moments</a> – kids’ books backed by research and Kiwi ingenuity to make your tricky job of parenting a whole lot easier.
Thanks for listening! If you enjoyed the show, please share it with friends and drop us a rating and review so we can keep bringing you Untidy conversations!

Untidy podcast honours the person within the parent. Hosts, Matilda Green and Hannah Davison dive into the undergrowth of sex and relationships, mental health, healing, body issues, identity questions, and more with a range of guests. Connect, laugh, learn, and keep moving forward.

Follow the show and get in touch on Instagram @untidypodcast. Follow Matilda at @matootles and Hannah’s work at My Big Moments and @mybigmoments.

Untidy podcast honours the person within the parent. Hosts, Matilda Green and <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/Ok7VCk8vJmiYQPVQi2AtaX?domain=instagram.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/Ok7VCk8vJmiYQPVQi2AtaX?domain%3Dinstagram.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1675464441664000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1DKy7jRTDAphDD3dx-D2Gy"> </a>Hannah Davison dive into the undergrowth of sex and relationships, mental health, healing, body issues, identity questions, and more with a range of guests. Connect, laugh, learn, and keep moving forward.
Follow the show and get in touch on Instagram <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/gPe0ClxwKniOZjJZf9F_xq?domain=instagram.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/gPe0ClxwKniOZjJZf9F_xq?domain%3Dinstagram.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1675464441664000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2p1b-PpxuXkqHY51gECyy_">@untidypodcast</a>. Follow Matilda at <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/lY5QCmOxLoH1n9wnfBN7bK?domain=instagram.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/lY5QCmOxLoH1n9wnfBN7bK?domain%3Dinstagram.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1675464441664000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0gyme0c8n03X-ccHQmeYmp">@matootles</a> and Hannah’s work at <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/AzX4CnxyMpilok0oSZYS8y?domain=mybigmoments.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/AzX4CnxyMpilok0oSZYS8y?domain%3Dmybigmoments.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1675464441664000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Hoedi4I1XnrDPNsZmF-Pk">My Big Moments</a> and <a href="https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/vAFMCoVzNqHlzQNzSOYT4O?domain=instagram.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/vAFMCoVzNqHlzQNzSOYT4O?domain%3Dinstagram.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1675464441664000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0YUZ5BLmOIFNiPh5RKpJIy">@mybigmoments</a>.