In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty surf a wave of chaotic energy right into a live redemption story that began with Hannah’s brutal ghosting. Matty recounts a firetrucking incident she’d still like an apology for. They discuss how to live in a state of uncertainty, and decide to collaborate with the listeners to solve kids’ fighting forever and ever. Amen.

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