Minnesota doesn’t just have a little corruption problem – it has a multi‑billion‑dollar fraud machine. And today, the man who helped expose it goes on the record.

In this explosive conversation, whistleblower Dustin Grage joins Joe Pags to lay out how Minnesota bureaucrats, nonprofits, and political power players presided over a fraud operation worth up to $9 billion – and why Governor Tim Walz cannot honestly claim he “didn’t know.”

You’ll hear:

• How the Minnesota fraud operation was set up, step‑by‑step – who signed what, where the money went, and why nobody in power stopped it
• Why warnings were ignored, red flags were buried, and honest people were threatened or sidelined
• The specific agencies, programs, and “nonprofits” that became cash hoses for insiders and political allies
• What Dustin personally saw that convinced him this wasn’t incompetence – it was a system
• How Tim Walz and his team tried to spin, distract, and delay once the scandal started breaking
• Why this isn’t just a “Minnesota problem” – and what it tells us about government, elections, and your tax dollars nationwide

If you’ve heard headlines about “Minnesota fraud” and “Feeding Our Future” but never understood how the pieces connect, this interview is the deep dive you were never supposed to get. Names. Dates. Documents. A whistleblower who watched it happen in real time.

Stay to the end for:

• Dustin’s message to Minnesotans who feel betrayed
• What accountability would actually look like – from audits, to prosecutions, to Tim Walz himself
• What needs to change so this kind of multi‑billion‑dollar theft of public money can’t happen again

This is not opinion radio. This is a first‑hand witness walking you through one of the biggest fraud stories in America – and the governor who wants you to believe he’s just a bystander.

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