Sen. Ted Cruz joins Joe Pags for a wide-ranging conversation about the fight inside the Republican Party over the SAVE America Act—and why it still hasn’t reached a Senate vote.
Cruz tells Pags that Republicans don’t currently have the votes they need and identifies Mitch McConnell and Thom Tillis as two senators firmly opposed. He also explains what he thinks Senate leadership should do next, including whether Republicans should force Democrats into an actual standing filibuster.
The conversation goes much further: Cruz discusses his once-brutal rivalry with President Trump and how their relationship changed, the battle for control of the Senate, the Democratic Party’s move to the left, his family’s experience with communism in Cuba, the fight for school choice, and the remarkable life and legacy of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
It’s Ted Cruz unfiltered on Trump, the GOP, the SAVE Act, the Senate—and where the country goes from here.
The Joe Pags Show — Unshaken. Unafraid.

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