Are America’s political divisions becoming something far more dangerous?

Joe Pags sits down with Kay Hill to examine the forces she believes are deliberately destabilizing the country—from political violence and media manipulation to cultural breakdown, foreign influence, open-border policies and growing distrust of America’s institutions.

Hill argues that a modern “civil war” may not look like armies facing each other on a battlefield. Instead, she says the conflict is already playing out through propaganda, social division and Americans being encouraged to turn against one another.

They also discuss Trump, Charlie Kirk, USAID, China, the media and the political forces shaping the country’s increasingly hostile divide.