Real Housewives producer and showrunner Thomas Kelly joins Unpopular to share secrets from the franchise and insights into how reality TV is made. We discuss underrated and misunderstood OC Housewives and the show's controversial Covid season, why were Kelly Dodd and Braunwyn let go, what is Lisa Rinna like to work with, Eileen Davidson's feud with Lisa Vanderpump, why Ashley Darby is a producer's dream, mean Housewives and more.

Before that, Jacques gets into AOC's #arrestgate, Honey Boo Boo's gastric sleeve surgery, Southern Charm's failed race feud, and Resident Evil on Netflix.  

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