From the King of sports Books comes the Key Sports podcast Unleashed, presented by Bet MGM. Here's your host, Jerry Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Decker. Just when we thought we've seen it all, Oh my gosh, was week three crazy? This whole season has started so crazy. Jerry Ferrara, my friend, can you please do something for me? Can you say butt punt ten times fast? You know, I'm usually good at this, so I'll take a stroll at it. But I feel like I'm gonna all right, here we go. But punt but pun but pun but pun but pun but pun but put Yeah, I got to like six. That's six. God, that should be your social media So I think but punt is even more fun than but fumble. So Mark Sanchez is off the hook for this one. I don't know that butt fumble will still be the funniest thing I've ever seen in NFL history more so, but he's off the hook for one week, at least for one week. Yeah, And Dan Orlovski with Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean, we got a lot of like flashbacks of history this past weekend. It was a weird week right, didn't feel weird like I feel like we also now have to start factoring in humidity, like normally as better as we factor in like snow. Now you look at that Bill's Dolphins game, it's like, oh, we got to start factoring in humidity because Stefon Diggs is cramping up. Like I've never seen anyone cramped that much in a game. A couple of guys were, I mean they said the field temperature was almost a hundred. I mean it looked miserable. I've worked a lot of early college football games down in the South, down all in the SEC, and that would be like a major thing. Guys chugging pickle juice on the sideline. Have you heard that one for cramping. I've never heard that one, but like, yeah, I guess that's an old you have. Like I'm trained to only look at bad weather. Do we have to start looking in those early September games and early maybe even October games of like in the South, start factoring in humidity and into your bets. I don't know, I've never seen anything like it. Weird week but lovely week, Yeah, oh my gosh, so much to get to really, I mean, in their every weekend, I always have pictures that stick with me, and one of them for this week was Bill's offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey having a meltdown in the coach's box. I feel like that one's going to stick with me, legendary. I'm so glad that they cut to that. I'm so glad as fans we got to see that. Gosh, we all have to be able to relate. Who if you haven't had a meltdown like that in your life, you ain't living. I'm sorry that is That's like the highest level of frustration. I'm glad you got that on Glass and he should get like a marketing deal with like Microsoft, Surface book Pro or something, right, because that's a commerce shoal. Oh, it was fantastic. Anyone who says that it was wrong of the CBS broadcast to show that, I think is crazy because they've been showing them all game, and those coaches they know they're on camera, and it was fantastic. I think football fans loved it because that's what we do at home. You know, if if, especially if you had money on the game, speaking of which, you had another busted parlay, right, another bust at parlay by your Kansas City chiefs. Nice money line parlay five teams. The only part of it that didn't hit end to Ken Dorsey's point, I have like a very safe room in the kitchen that I put plastic stuff in that. I call it wrecking the locker room. You get a bad beat, you go in the locker room and wreck the locker room and you're not damaging anything. So yeah, why have those cameras in the booth if you're not going to show that. So yes, so bad beat by your Kansas City Chiefs for me, thank you very much, Andy Reid. So if I'm doing my math correctly, you're down on the season, aren't you go? No, Because I keep hitting teasers. I'm also a sneaky teaser guy. I think that there's always room for teasers. In the first four or five weeks, I had a three team ten point teaser lions like plus twelve and a half Panthers in there. I had the Ravens in there. So I'm up. But I'd love to hit one of these parlays. I know, keep doing it, keep being ballsy. You got you got screwed with the Chiefs. No one saw that one coming. Speaking of which, I looked at updated m v P odds because I was curious how Josh Allen's was affected. He's still the favorite. He opened at nine to one and he's now plus two seventy five. He's also the highest ticket percentage at bet MGM. But yeah, I was thinking with Patrick Mahomes, his odds have shortened. He opened at seven to one, now he's five to one. And speaking of pictures, I'm going to remember from week three, how about him going into the locker room at halftime in Indie arguing with Eric b Enemy. Yeah, you don't really see that often, Eric boy, obviously amazing offensive coordinator. It I don't know, did you read that as like full argument, Like it didn't look contentious in a way was unhealthy and they looked very healthy. But yeah, I mean you have to kind of say that Mahomes was probably correct, and as we saw with some of the later calls like the fake field goal and then you know, just not being aggressive enough certainly looked like it. It factored into that game. Yeah, I don't know. I thought it at the time at halftime when I was watching, but I really thought it after the game they ended up losing by three. I think they should have listened to Patrick being more aggressive going into half try to get into field goal range. But yeah, I love Andy Reid coming up, like, come on, let's just get in the locker room. Come on. It's like it's like a parent breaking up a fight with siblings or something. You know. You mentioned m v P odds, quarterback MVP odds, and the jumps. I mean, who right now is your m v P through three weeks, which is an awful question but one that we all want to know because it affects the odds. To me, there's like a clear person. So you're saying, if if the sample size was just three weeks, if the season was over now. I mean, because we're talking about the odds, right, the odds have shifted so much from week one until now, So that means who's kind of won the first three game MVP award that doesn't exist. I mean, it's hard to go against Lamar Jackson and what he's been doing. He is so fantastic. You can tell every game he's fighting for his new contract. But Josh Allen, despite a loss, he had franchise record pass attempts. He had four hundred passing yards. They double time of possession. I mean there their offense, everything he was doing for him was fantastic. Their defense was missing five starters obviously, So I guess I'm leaning towards Josh Allen still and I know that's chalky, but what do you think is your good Well? I look at it like, if you can go back to pre game one, whose odds would you love to lock in if you hadn't locked it in? And to me, I think if you could lock in Jalen Hurts at whatever was the plus four thousand at one point and now plus seven hundred, I think Jalen Hurt is going to make a real run at this thing. I don't think you'll quite get there. But also he might very well be on the team with the best wreck. They look completely dominant And this is a big overreaction, but I didn't buy it after week one because the Lions played them so tough. But yeah, I'm buying the Eagles. That team is logit. They really are. He's got weapons. I mean, they're exciting. I like Nick Sirianni, You're to getting things going. There's a lot to like about the Eagle, So you're right, I can get behind that. Yeah, Jalen Hurts now plus seven hundred. Lamar Jackson, by the way, opened at plus now he's plus five fifty. So three weeks in we are seeing a lot of movement, folks. I like it, okay and Jerry. The craziest thing just three weeks in is there's so much parody. We're seeing teams on the radar that we didn't expect, and thirty teams have at least one win, and the last time that happened was a decade ago. I didn't realize that. And the last time before that was two decades ago, So I don't know every ten years this happens. But we are seeing more cloudy picture, if you will, and games that we were excited about, like Rogers versus Brady, just did not live up to the billing. Some teams have been disappointing. I feel like we're not getting what we thought we'd get, especially that game in particular, with two star Hall of Fame quarterbacks and maybe their last meeting ever, and they have no one to throw too, they have no weapons. But as a Packer fan, I'm just glad we got out of there with a win, and the only reason that game will really matter is getting the tie break, as we look at seating at the playoff picture. But that's a whole another tangent. But hey, we got someone we can ask about this, and it's our guest. I'm really excited. You know. I had this thought when I was watching football and you popped into my mind because you made a whole great take of why maybe the Raiders still have life in that a f C West. I don't even know if the act as we thought, a lot of a lot of people's favorites to win the a f C West with the Las Vegas Raiders who are now oh and three, maybe Davante Adams is regretting leaving your boy Aaron Rodgers and and the Packers. I mean it only three Packers sitting there to one. But here's what I thought about, who's the worst team in the NFL and are there really awful teams? Usually in years past and betting wise, I would always try to find the Jags, the Browns, the Jets, even my Jet, like you had teams to fade from the very beginning. Who are the worst three teams in the NFL? The Raiders? You have to lump them in? Are the Raiders one of the worst three teams in the NFL. There's no way, there's way too much talent. Are the Texans. The Texas should be two in one right now? Texans should be two in one. Yeah, the Bears are two in one. Yeah. I guess you have to say Texans, Raiders and Bears are the three worst teams. But you're so right on any different day, different circumstances that I think you can make a case the Texans and Raiders aren't in that bottom three. Who else would you think is bottom three? Well, you would say you would put the Giants in the Jets in there, and I do think the Jets are in there. It's hard to put the Giants in there just yet because but to give it, Okay, how's this to brow your mind? The Giant either the Giants are the Bears are gonna be three and one. They play each other coming up, They're one of those teams will be three and one. That's just no one had that coming into the year. And I do think the Rains are still bounce back. I just think they're too far behind. And do you think DeVante Adams is regretting leaving the Packers and not even that he left. Maybe the Packers really weren't going to give him the money he wanted. But just as where that franchisees versus where he is now, do you think is there a regret? Is it possible? Well, let's be clear why he left, and this has been well documented and we've talked about it on this show, and I've even had people tweet at me like you're crazy. It wasn't about Aaron Rodgers, And I get it. Davante Adams went to Vegas to be closer to family, to have family who had never seen him play in the NFL before go to games like there's there's a lot there, right, but just on the field. I went back and I looked at his first three games last season compared to the first three games this season in with Derek Carr. So get this, it's pretty crazy. He's had the exact same amount of targets thirty four targets, but he's had almost ten more catches with Aaron and a hundred twenty more receiving yards. That's the three games. So if this trend continues, that's the difference of almost seven hundred yards this season, So major difference, way more production with Aaron Rodgers. Now you could also look at situational you know, where was he targeted, what kind of blocking did he have? You could really break it down. But I think those numbers say a lot. Yeah, I really have a hard time putting the Raiders as one of the worst teams in the league. They're not, and we still have a lot of games left to play to figure this out. But I really, when I'm looking at the board to do my fun little teasers and my fun little parlay's, it's really hard to find that dog crap team that you know you could just fade. It's not like it was in years past. I have a noticeable difference through three weeks. They used to be three or four of those teams you could always count on. I struggle to find like one or two, you know, Olivia. We've also seen low scoring this year, and look, I get that it's probably the maybe the smarter pick. With all these unders hitting at a historic rate so far this season. I mean, we had a fourteen twelve, we had an eleven to ten. It's hard for me. I don't love going for the under. Who wants to root for no points in the NFL? But what is going on with some of these games, like it's it's going under by like like a no doubter. Yeah, no, it's so bizarre and it it does make you think about the way you want to bet in looking at unders, especially for this weekend, because I was thinking aheads of the London Games and a lot of people think with the time change and weird venue and kind of out of your element that maybe you look at some unders there. I don't know, but I would love to pick the brain of someone who has been on the field before you and I. We are pro NFL watchers, we are not players, and our guest this week is going to be the perfect person to ask. It's Will Blackman and why I love Will Blackman. He's a twelve year NFL VET Super Bowl champ. I love him because he played for both of our team's Jerry Packers and the Giants. And he's really my kind of guy because he's actually a certified smalley A. He's a wine guy. So I don't know, can we open a bottle of wine all of us individually? I think that's totally fair. I think I kind of need that today. So having a day. Yeah, we don't have to tell anyone what time it is, right now like it's wine thirty. We'll just say that. Okay, it is. I wonder too, as Will played a London game. Oh that's let's see if it's really anything for us to think about these guys traveling to London. I mean, you just did it and it has not affected your performance whatsoever, not at all. And hate to be fair, it is wine thirty my time. I have the benefit of the time zone here at six thirty my time, so I'm in the clear. I usually wait till after we record to get my glass of wine. Sometimes you guys have even caught me as as we had to jump back on to fix something and I already have something board. But no, I'm excited to talk with Will again. We can get a little insight on both of our teams. So do you have some Giants questions ready? I do, And I just hope he wears the super Bowl ring because he got a super Bowl with my team. I don't think he got one. He left. I think just in time. I think it was season that he went to the Giants, all right, So I mean he ultimately got his ring, but yeah, he just missed the Packers. Okay. So then after we talk with Will, which is going to be so much fun. We have our weekly Entourage update and Jerry, I am on season three and I have so much to ask you, so I'm really looking forward to getting that segment in later. And then of course we finished off with our Week four picks with bet MGMs betting expert Peter Andrew. We love when our friend Pete comes on. We got to see what his season total is at in his one challenge. Okay, he's a Super Bowl champion who not only played with the Eli Manning but also intercepted him. He knows his xs and knows just as well as he knows his pinots. And Merlote's one of our favorite Twitter follows as well. Will Blackman is here. Welcome on, Will. That was I'm gonna steal that one. That was legit, very good. Yeah, I'm excited. Quick story though, before you guys an't going I'm going to tell you guys how Entourage saved my career. Can I do that really quick? Is that cool? Wow? Way to tease it. We don't even have a break to say like after the break? Okay, so two ten? Right? I get cut from the Packers when the year they won the Super Bowl, and then I remember I got signed by the Giants that year and then ended up not finishing the season. Then my knee got worse, and so in the following off season I got another surgery, and then I could not get on a team, so I missed training camp, I miss Otis and missed everything. And this was like probably late October, maybe around this time. I got insanely sick, right, I got strapped through, I got all these things, and I'm just like ruined, and so I'm just in bed. My wife left the house with the kids because I was that sick, and I'm like, you know what, I haven't seen Entourage. I'm gonna binge wash Entourage. So I ended up I binge watched from start to finish the whole thing. And then when I finished the last season, I remember just finally just feeling so relaxed because Entourage took my mind off of like not getting signed from a team. The next day or that, I feel like it's next week. I got a call from the Giants saying, hey, we're gonna bring you back this year, and that's the year the Giants end up winning the Super Bowl. So winning the Super Bowl with the Giants that elevated me to play another what eight years? So Entourage was my was like my mental health, like it helped me out. So I can't even tell you. How can I call you Turtle right now? Real quick? You absolutely could right now after that story you have, yes, you are, you are presented to call me whatever you want. Um. Wow, that's an incredible story. I've never actually had anyone kind of put it that way. Like, but then all wow, and think about the connection. Turtle was the biggest Giants fan. Actually just found that Giants jersey that I think my character wore in like season two that's as Turtle on the back. Like I got to actually hang that up in the office. So wow, Look, I'm glad that we could help get you a ring. Ma. Man, that's incredible. Another eight years in the NFL. Yeah you know what I mean, because Jerry, do you get a cut? You get Jerry of what of any earnings after you've been datched? I'll just take a just let me just take a picture with the ring. I'll be happy. Let's take a ruby out the rings. No, well that's awesome. Yeah, so that's what it was. It put me up piece man, and I finally let it go and then boom, Jerry Rey's called and was like, let's do it. So appreciate it anyhow. Hi, Okay, that's an amazing story. What a way to kick things off, and even more appropriate now because I told everyone to pour themselves a glass of wine because you are the wine guy, and now we can cheers to that amazing story. And what's everyone got. I want to hear everyone's drinking ladies first. Okay, well, because you really know your stuff, will you're smalley yourself. We'll get into all that. But I went down to no, I'm telling you it's not God. You're the person to say that. No. This is a skin contact reesling from Slovenia. I love skin contact wine. I like funky wine. I like cloudy mineral really good. That was my second guest. Usually shy away from recling because it's so sweet, but this is exceptionally dry and it's really good. Dry reasoning is preferred for me. So a quick way to do that too, without having to read the label is honestly, just look at the back and you can see the alcohol percentage anything above, it's going to be a dry wine. Twelve and a half can you please just tell me real quick before we move on, what does a skin contact wine mean? What does that mean? So when they make white wine, they pressed the juice straight through and then they ferment the white wine. So in this case, they pressed the juice and they leave it in contact with the skins literally to get some of the structure on that wine. And so as you see, it's a little bit a little bit of color on their um. So either it could be aged to look like that or a skin contact. That's also how they make orange wine. I just had that for the first time. I didn't even know. I thought that was like a prank. I just had that for and it was delicious. By the way I enjoyed it. It was it was pretty just all right, your turn. I mean, look again, I following what Olivia just did and said, it's not going to be nearly She got super fancy camus cabernet. Nothing wrong with that, you know, like the best year wasn't that really hot year in l A in California? Right now? I thought, for like famus opus one specifically, we're supposed to be very good years. So how did I do? Did that? Is that? Is that how you know you're you're cool. Yeah, so I have a bobarresco. We're in Italy right now. Um, we got some nebiolo, which is what I just poured using my Corvin And the cool thing about this if you like um like high acidity and high tannins, this is the way to go nebuolo. Well let's backtrack. We've gotten ahead of ourselves a little bit. How did you make the transition? I know, I know, I know, I got too excited. How did we end up here? How did you become so certified? And how long after you stopped playing did you really get into this passion? I mean I started like getting into one probably my rookie year, actually my senior in college. I enjoy one. I think I was typical like most people are ant like sweet wines. Like that was my start. I wanted something that that I can drink in a drawer right now. And then it wasn't until my rookie year. I remember, I'm in Wisconsin. I'm a packer, and it's like it's beer country, right, So I'm like, I'm not drinking wine around these dudes, man, Like there's no way. So but come to find out, Charles Woodson, who we signed that same year I was drafted, was a big wine up and that actually made me excited and made me more comfortable cause I'm like, no one's gonna say anything to Charles if he's drinking one, right, that's how that's our best player on the d N team. And he was cool because he didn't hate them. He didn't hate us, the rookies. He didn't do anything crazy to make us like run up a tab on us. He actually took us out to dinner. He wined and dined us every every road trip, which was super cool. And he would always order these really cool and um you know expensive wines I had. Yeah, I had no idea what they were at the time, but I just thought it was cool. Not only it was cool that he enjoyed wine, but then to come to find out that he actually had his own wine, because I thought, when you look at wine, you're like, how the hell you get into this business? You know, it seems so like not feasible. Do you have to come from a wine family? Do you have to have a ton of money to even get started? Second part, yes, you do, um usually if you're trying to buy a vineyard. But the fact that he had his own wine, he was African American, he was an athlete, he was a pro bowler, all pro, and he was in the business. I thought that was super fascinating. So that's kind of how I got started. And then, you know, I think, being the youngest of three, I'm such a curious George, Like I'm always trying to figure out, like like what's going on, super observant, and I wanted to know more about this stuff. I kept getting invited to, you know, events in Milwaukee, and people were taking wine glasses, swerved it at my face and talking about the pretty legs, which I found out don't mean a damn thing. Um. So if someone's like nice legs, You're like, oh yeah, Syrup has legs too, you know, Um you could tell him that. And so I wanted to learn more. Like what got me into football is I was a big football historian. So I used to make collect cards. I collect posters like why everything NFL films like Jonathan Sunda, He's he was the guy's voice. Sam Spence was the composer, Like who knows that ship? I do? Did I swear my back? Okay? Like who I know that stuff? And It sounds crazy, but I really got into studying and trying to learn about wine. I buy. I bought all these magazines and books and what have you. And then I saw that documentary PSALM about the guys blind tasting and become a master Psalms, and I was like, Yo, where the hell is that at? And one of the master's songs on the movie's name was um in the movie's name is Peter Neptune. He has a school right by where we live in California. So I remember one offseason, I was like, I'm gonna find this and go take this class instantly. So once we were finished, this is when I was in Washington. Now UM, I went, came home, took the was like an eight week course through the w SET, which is Wine and Spirit Education. Trust I learned, do not call it w SET because I did a commercial in London. It's a British institution and when I said W said, they cut the cameras off. They said you need to say the whole thing, so if you hear someone say, it's w s ET. So yeah, I took that and that just totally changed my entire world. Like I, wine became so non subjective for me, like it wasn't really do I like the wine or not. It was more so like I understand it whether I like it or not. Is it hard to get So I'm certified because I've looked into it for the w S E T. Because you can do online courses. I've looked into it. I really want to do it. It's really hard. It's harder the higher you go. Level like level one, you know you could probably have an idea boom second level two, step it up a little bit. Love with three is absolutely it's it literally is like going from pop Water to the NFL's absolutely crazy. Seriously, and so yeah, once I took that, I became so nonsubjective and it just really opened my eyes. And what people don't know is after I took that class, I found out that there's a wine region in Virginia. And then I ended up um when I came back for O T A S in Washington. I actually after act I would go work on vineyards Virginia. Like I would put on boots, throwing my car by driving in the dirt roads. So yeah, that's kind of I just I just fell down the rabbit hole of wine and and that was it. I love that so a good buddy of mine, Ben lyons we have this bet every time we play golf together. We don't bet money. The bet is you gotta buy the winner a bottle of wine that you would take to a dinner party at Carmelo Anthony's house. He owes me too, He owes me two bottles. He has not paid yet. What kind of bottle should I be expecting because I don't want him to kind of shorten me here? Remember dinner party car Anthony's house. What wine is he sending me? I mean, that's tough, because Carmelo he's he's into the French wines and the stuff that he Lebron and Chris Paul and do you wait of drinking and stuff that no one else would ever buy it because it's absolutely insanely ridiculous. So hopefully something north, something north of nine you should get. So maybe like a first growth bordole wine or maybe a Grand Crew Burgundy, something like that. I'm glad I didn't know all this before the bet because I played relaxed and I smoked him. So I think if I knew that, I might have felt a little pressure and maybe he wouldn't have played so all right, and then yeah, you get it and let me know, I'd be like, n he low balled you, bro, what's he gonna do? And I have Will Blackman go tell them on Twitter that's going to be this is so good, this is so good, you know, seriously, Will. Though, when we talked about NBA players, there have been now articles written and people are really into the fact that NBA players on road trips get together and drink these really expensive bottles of wine. And now that's such a culture, Like it's really cool to be into wine if you're a rookie NBA player, where like you talked about, you were kind of out of your element. You were kind of one of one until Charles came around. But why do you think the NBA is a little bit ahead of the NFL and that whoa, you can go to dinner what to of guys on the team? You can't go to dinner with fifty three guys like you know, and and they're always on the road and they don't practice every day, they have shoot around, so I think they have more time to have their leisure, you know, to enjoy that stuff. And then too, when the top players are setting that trend. It's it's a little different, you know. I'm sure if like Brady, Aaron Rodgers and you know whoever my homes were and Josh instead of playing golf, they were going around to these like wine places and really sitting a trend there. Like I think if that was the case, Shure now come to find out, Yeah, there's a lot of players into wine. Especially the more I got into this business, I found out so many people came out of the woodworks like, hey, you know I enjoyed this too, But yeah, it's just because the main players are into it. You know. Now if Lebron and then were into you know, seltzers, you know seltzers, can you imagine the high Nuns will be flying a bunch of white claws will be the wave to you know, by noons? Do I crush high Dunes? This weekend? I had about eight of them too. Who's someone who's like famous, let's say, who's come out of the woodwork, who's like really into their wine. I just found out like Andrew Whitworth is really into wine. Yeah he is justin Tuck is a big wine guy, like huge, huge. I actually curvated his seller a couple of times. Matt Ryan is is massive. He has like an eight hundred bottle seller. Yeah, so I did Matt Ryan seller justin Sucker. I did Reggie Bush and Celler. Reggie's like getting he's like interested in wine, so because he was kind of like here's what I want to spend and kind of I like to try whatever. So there's a lot of people like trying to understand it or those who are like full on like this is what I do. Joey Harrington is a is a big, big, big wine person. He actually text me, uh he has some old Oregon wines that he's into, so yeah, they're all over the place. But the real one who people do know is Drew bled cell that because he lives he lives on the vineyard, so Double Back Wine is his. He makes wine out of Washington, Walla, Walla, and it is absolutely dynamite. Yeah, I feel like everyone's making wine now. Does that just like saturate the market. It does not saturated market. It makes the market super fun because here's what happened. Here's what happens is like before yes, people were getting into the business and just slap their name on the label and what have you. Now people are really like celebrities athletes are going to these vineyards and trying to learn more. Hang up with the wine makers trying to learn more. Like like Mary J. Blige has a wine called Sun Goddess and she actually went to her for Joli Vedenzia in Italy and was on the vineyard. Now, yeah, she's still learning about it, but she really went there and got to see the product made. Um, you know, I thought that was super fascinating. Obviously Dwayne Wade, you know with his wine. Carmelo's wine is you know, from shocking off the pub. So it's you know who else is legit is ink? Really pink I'm talking about. She is like cat cat management is when you see them like stirring the grapes around because you want to keep the top of the like cap, you want to keep it moist, so you want to stir it around. She has wine out of Santa Barbara, Santa Jez An Happy Canyon called Two Wolves. And if she's not performing, she is making wine Like I'm dead serious, She don't, don't she didn't do anything else. Okay, I think I need to make wine or you can just custom crush you know, you hire someone alternating proprietorship. They make it for you. You know, you just fund it. I mean, I'm really good at drinking it. I think I could be making it. Should we talk some football guys? I'm game, I have I am no rush to. Oh, by the way, tell Sam that he needs to buy himself a set of darts, okay, because it's a big deal out there in the UK and at night. I guess, like I hang out with this winky people during the day, but then like certain days I'll go to like a legit pub, right, and it's like it's like going down, like give me some ale, give me some of these disgusting fries. Get off the way, and it's like Dark Knights. It's the real deal. And we think I'm kidding. If you think I'm kidding, We're gonna hang out more. Man, we gotta hang out. I'm hitting you offline. We're hanging out. Where are you at? I could be anywhere. I could be anywhere, Okay, I could be anywhere you are. We're hanging out, okay. But he obviously is from New York because we were talking about with Entourage and the Giants are his team and the Packers are my team. And because you played for this really works. Okay, be honest, who did you like playing for more in terms of city, fan base, colors, everything? Okay, So I mented the historian thing. So going to Green Bay was like an absolutely like football players like, I just loved everything about it. The p what were unbelievable. I don't think I paid for dinner in four years. Um, it was like this is so. I remember I went out to I wanted to a bar in Green Bay and I had a little too much and then a fan was like, hey, let me drive you home so you don't get in trouble. I was like, all right, So they drove me to who I am getting my keys? Make sure I was good, and and and away I went. Great. So but I will say this though, winning a Super Bowl in New York is absolutely crazy. And New York was cool because being a Giants I really got to see like what it was like, the process, like beginning that year they were doing so awful and then you really got to see what it was like to go through and finally get there and win it. So it was cool to see, like to see that part see like Coughlin's dynamic with the team, how we were, how we had just a team, like full of adults on both teams. Teams are full of adults and leaders like what you really need for a championship team. So it was cool to see both because I was there two ten, I just got released. Then obviously next year with New York. But yeah, overall, I would say Green Bay was absolutely tons of fun. But New York dynamite. I've got to ask because you were drafted in two thousands six, so you were there when Brett Farve kept saying he was coming back for two seasons, he was coming back. And then Aaron Rodgers crossover. It's been well documented that those two have not always gotten along, that those first couple of years were kind of awkward. Do you have any takeaway from seeing that situation? Yeah, I don't want to say like them two didn't get along, because I feel like I feel like men know how to be cordable despite like whatever kind of like issues may have. And for him, Aaron was drafting situation. Farve was still playing at the high level and they were trying to kick him out, like, bro, all right, we had enough, you know it? Actually, when okay, two sick was kind of whatever, and they were like, hey, let's move on. He came back two seven, we lose the NFC Championship game, like, and he's playing at a high m v P level, Like you get that far and you're still that good and they want you to get out of there. It's kind of it was super tough. So it was funny. But I would say this, despite whatever the drama, whatever dramas going on, we knew like we were good either way, Like the far Stay we were good Rogers, we were good. So we were like, just Perry pick somebody's even go and make some plays. Now I know Aaron's a Scotch guy. Did you ever drink wine with him? No? Oh, But here's what's funny too, So I so we were, Um. I went to a super Bowl party at this house in bel Air. It's like this guy who lives right across the street from I guess where a Bill Zara and used to live that dad whatever that guy's name is. And I mean this house was endless and so it's so funny, like the most random people there means l a right, That's how it is. I remember I was hanging out with Julio White and Aaron walks in the day after he won an m v P. He has like a you know, Scully on and he looks like he just speaking of He looked like he was doing cat management on Great Fatil Like he just walked in and everyone was like, it was just the most random thing I've ever seen. And then all of a sudden, Farv walks into the party. Oh yeah, it was, That's what I mean. It was so random. Farv walks in. I think like he walked in the same time Vanessa Hudges walking. So he walks in. I'm just name dropping like crazy. I funds like a dream. She was promoting her cactus water at this event whatever, and so yeah, them too are at this party again and I'm sitting there and then me and Prince Mcamara were just like look at this, like these two and they were totally cool. You know. I don't upset I didn't get the invite to this party because I was in l A at this period of time, and I'm a little upset I didn't get this. Uh, I feel I feel bad I had a party yet Lamartage, So that's oh man, I don't even know where to go from there because I want to ask a lot more questions about the party, but I don't want to. I don't want to live in that party. I think I get one more Packer question, I think I'm entitled to one more, and then you get three Giants questions. Does that sounds okay? Sounds good? Why do you think, Well, the Packers can't win a playoff game at home? No idea. I don't know. Just play the US the Tampa too, didn't they. I don't know. It's funny because they gave up a lot of points for his Tampa. Then they go get Joe Barrett. He shares with the defense, and then they don't score enough against forty Niners. So I don't know, listen, just keep getting there, you know. It's funny when the expectation is that high. It's like they can't get the super b. But hey, just keep getting to the MT champianship game. I don't know. I think right now what they're doing. They have Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon, like they're really leaning on them. I feel like the receivers are getting more confident in terms of what they're doing. To me, it's it's a long season. It's only week three and I feel like I know Aaron. He gets better the further they go into the season. So yeah, I think, I don't know. I think just lean on the runner backs. That will help them a lot. Okay, fair enough, Jared, you have that conclude the packers segment. I'll find a way to get back there a little bit. But yeah, I gotta say, well, I have grown up in Wisconsin and Kansas City. It's another story, but Wisconsin's home. My husband's from Sheboygan, which is about an hour from Green Bay, and I worked had a vineyard in Wisconsin. One summer I was home from college and we had a bunch of tourists always coming up from like Iowa, Illinois. You know, did you go to Madison too? No, I went to Georgia. We'll talk, We'll talk when you come to London. I almost went to Madison, by the way. Really yeah, I had too much fun on my visit and I couldn't go there. You know that I've heard that happen. I died. I died on my visit. Literally I died. I looked like it looked like Key first selling than the Lost Boys. I look just like him. Was major decision, like this is too much, Like this is not for me. This is VC is a great party school. I mean Boston in general, if everyone just emerges. He got there like thirty schools in Boston, but literally I went during like I think it was Halloween too, and that's like Madison is like yeah, just another world. And I just remember I met Jungle Juice. That's a nice person. Afterwards, after your visit, you go meet coach Alvarez, right, and I remember I go, he has he had this long desk. I mean it had to be like a thirty foot desk. It was absolutely ridiculous, like it's kind of like it's like a last supper table was that long. And I remember I sit down and I just I just go just like this. I put my head down on my arms, and I just hear him walking. He's walking towards me. Obviously it's a long table, so it took a long time. He was walking for a long time. And finally he comes over and he puts his hand on my head. He said, I know, son, like I know, like as in like as in yes, you had a great time. Yeah, And I told my dad on the plane, I was like dude, there's I could. I would, There's no way I can go here. They have like a new sports medicine facility. I like sports medicine. Like they gave me my Jerry Like it was just anyhow, Sorry, it's almost too a visit. It was too good. Oh that's so funny. But I was kind of like I asked a lot of questions on our dinner because they recruited me to play running back and they're starting running back. Was a freshman. I was like, you have a freshman running back. I was like, what if I play receiver? They said, you can play receiver. I said, what if IONE play defensive back? Could play defensive back too. I was like, well, if I want to coach the team, I just want to take ankles. Guys, you're not. I was like, they just want me here. Oh that is rich. I'm gonna sneak in. I'm gonna sneak in some giant stuff if that's okay. Oh, it's totally allowed. Now. I'm pretty much one of the biggest like Tom Coughland guys around. You know, he was always they were always kind of calling for his head before the Super Bowls. When is he gonna get fired, and then we we know what kind of happened from there. And I do even remember like the Tom Coughlan time thing right and straighthand I think it was always the one you said it like if they tell you to be in the meeting at nine, you gotta be there at Was Tom Coughlin really that kind of coach? And did he ever? I don't see playing mind games. There was any motivational stuff he would try. Is there like a Tom Coughlin time for real? It wasn't mind games. It was legit. If you were late, you got fined. Okay, kid, you not you have the wrong color socks on, you will get fined. If you were if you didn't have a tie on, you will get fine. I mean he find us for everything. I remember we were traveling, right, who were playing? I think it was a saint, But I remember I had like a there was a three piece suit on, like it was tailor. It was nice, right, everything but a tie. But I was dressed up. So I remember I looked back at Coach cough and he had a neck pillow that you have to inflict yourself, and so he was he was he was blowing up the neck pillow and then he was turning maroon and I I'm like, coach, don't pass on on us. And he was like ha ha ha. He's like, where's your tie. I was like, oh, I look clean, Coach, I said, a look clean. He goes, you look super nice. Remember this is on the way to the game. Get there and played the game, come back, come back, blah blah. You know, we go to we come back after the game, go to our facility and I go put my pads in there. You know that I put my I grab my other stuff. There's an envelope on my seat. Envelope on my seat. Fine for not having remember this was no this was on the way to the game, and you know we got there, we stayed the night, play the next day, and on the way back there was an envelope in my locker. But I will say this, though he was he was great. He was outstanding because he I respect coaches who they are, who they are, like, they didn't sugarcoat anything. He was who he was. Um I and I get that now. I understand. You know, watching I remember watching America's game when they wanted two thou seven. How he was so tough and so stern and no one really got to like them. And then his wife was like, you need to let them see how you are. You are with your grandkids. Speaking of grandkids, Chris Knee is his son in law. Chris Knee and I played to get that Boston College, and I remember I remember watching the draft and he gets picked by the Giants and we were laughing so hard. We were like, oh, taking care of it was great. So it was cool because I got to see actually that when I was there, like he would come into them, you know, Tuesday's our day off for treatment, and he would let us bring our kids and he would play with our kids. And then he also created his leadership committee. This is what I thought was cool, where it was like Eli, you know, Ocean Murre, Justin Tug, David Deal, Richie Salbart, like all these dudes right and pretty much if if you guys can't handle it, didn't bring it to me. But if there's any issue of drama, like you guys handle it like I don't want to come into my desk or anything. And I was saying time like it was handled. So I think that that's also what helped our team be who it was. But there there was a time. It was right before the Super Bowl, right the night before. You know, we have a team meeting and you're expecting like this crazy Rah Ross speech like oh then and beat their ass. You know. The week before he told us the Burner ships. I love Burner ships, like burner ships when we play, like, let's go, we are not leaving without a win this week. I'm waiting for something like relatable like that. And what he did he pretty much went around the room and highlighted guys who sacrificed for the team, and he expressed like how much he loved each of one of us. He was damned there in tears and that was that was his speech really, and I was like, oh, dude, like let's go, Like that's motivating, Let's go, because you know you don't see that from him, but yes, he finds you for everything good. Yeah, that's got to be a little more impactful than I mean, burn the Ships is great. I love all that stuff, but you know, when you get kind of vulnerable the coach like that, So definding stuff though, for something as simple as like wrong colored socks or not we're in the toime? Is that just what? Because of the attention to detail that all of you have to have. I would say it's attention to detail. It's like, do you like respect, attention to detail, like discipline, like it was all those things. I get it. It's kind of silly, but I get it. I get what it is. It's like, hey, like this is this is the Giants, is how are we gonna run things? This is everyone is on the same page. Everyone is going to buy in, you know, literally probably get the buy so you win the super Bowl? Is there anyone on the Giants that kind of maybe surprised you at some of the after parties like, oh, wow, you're have You're having a real good time. I wanted to kind of go according to what you you thought guys would have been, like, yeah, I was. I was so tired, remember yeah, because my whole family was there. I was so tired. I think I think Kid Rock was performing at our after party, and I got actually got pretty cool with DJ Scribble, like he's super cool. I got to do him really well. And then that's what it was such a blur because then I was like hanging up my wife and I'm like, oh, we gotta packing like three hours. It's already there was no sleep. It's already three in the morning. My kids, my son's upstairs with his grandma and my dad there and my brother and it's like, man, we gotta pack and load up in three hours. It's already like three four am. So it was such a blur everything happened SOT. I do remember after the game, not the party, but after the game in the locker room. I remember like getting to my locker and Seal and Heidie Cloone were in my locker. I gotta change, guys, have a moment to uh change, see I could I feel I don't mind it with you too, because like I don't say names ever, I think it's so silly, but for you to like does wherever? So what were they doing in your locker because you know they let people in afterwards, it's super so like all the celebrities in afterwards were there and also didn't get that invite. I'm over to what you will? I'm over to. But hey, real quick, did you ever play in London in any of the London games? Twice? Twice? Twice in London? Yeah, okay, you like when you're with the time, change doesn't matter. I did both trips. I did one where you stayed the whole week, and I did the one where you came on the weekend. Um, they both suck the way because it's like you're there all week is like all right, you know this was cool, Now let's play and go home. All the other one is like you get there and you're like, oh my gosh, I just I need to bree So I went with Jacksonville in two thousand thirteen when we played the NS and got absolutely dragged through the pitch dragged. It was awful, But I will say the atmosphere felt like a super Bowl because it was Wembley and it was completely sold out, completely sold out, fireworks, you've seen the most random jerseys. Everyone's excited like they love football out there, like for real. And then the second time, which was even worse, I was on the Redskins. We played the Bengals and the game ended in the tie, which I remember that game, yeah, which they didn't mind because like a tie tie. Really I was furious, Well, do you think the NFL should abolish ties? I mean, I have a kickoff or something, you know, like have two kickers just go at it. This year, I don't know, that might take longer than just playing it out this year, that's fine, but I think maybe they don't want to have overtime because for player safety, maybe because they don't want to keep playing go for to keep switching off go for two. Make the coaches do the kickoff, man, now we're talking, make the coaches have to go kick off and do something. You know who we would drill it. Tom Coughlin would drill a thirty five yarder if it was for the win. I don't know about that, Okay. Also, what do you think about the Pro Bowl now that's changing, getting a little facelift. What do you think about the new format? Yeah, I mean you might as well do something just to make it competitive without the physical aspect of it, because yeah, literally it's they go there and they just literally just hang out. It's so funny. Last year Almar got arrested. This year at well yeah I don't I don't know that full story, but it's funny because they got a hotel and like Henderson, which is like forty minutes from the strip, and I think the second day everyone left their rooms and got rooms on the strip, So that was super funny. But yeah, just just make it fun and little competitive. Things I think would would would make it exciting. But yeah, because no one's really trying to hit anybody, I gotta pitch for you to make I'm all about improving things right in sports the way I've actually, I think for fan experience. So the PROB I'm all in on the court, Like the skills competition, that's fantastic, and later on this show at some point to do how to fix the dunk contest, that's another story. But for Pro Bowl, Look, we don't want to see I don't want to see the game either. I don't want to see anyone take on necessary hits. So what if you do the skills competition, you pick a few quarterbacks right, and then instead of doing the flag football game, you really just kind of do drills Like I want to go one on one with another actor, but I want my quarterback to be Josh Allen. I feel like he would do that. So if it's more like backyard football, Josh Allen say Jerry's seven yards slant and I don't know, Channing Tatum's guarden trying to lock me up, I think people watch that. Maybe if it's not me could get bigger names. But what if you involve like, just make it fun. I didn't want to see them play a flag football game kind of All Star Weekend is literally like you had all the above, and I feel the same way like bringing those those celebrity dunkers the dunk contest. You know, that's how we fix it fun. That's how we fix the dunk contest. You're right, that's my take of how you fix the dunk contest. Bring on professional dunkers. Wait here, bro, you guys have a lot of hang out. Okay, I have another question because we just saw this weekend Bills at Dolphins, heat and humidity playing a major factor, and Jerry and I were just talking about it. Have you played in the game that hot, that humid and is that a real thing? Is that something that betters especially should consider before placing their bets. It's funny. I would say no, but I guess I guess in this case, Yeah, I saw. I think it was Mike Fabriano said it's super unsafe, and I was like, come on, man, like it is. But my very first NFL game was in Miami actually around this time of year. I think it was. Yeah, I think it was round the time of year. It was on the field. It was absolutely horrible, horrible. I mean, I remember I was covering Marty Booker, former Bears, I think the Bears, but also a Dolphins receiver, and he and I, honestly we looked like two slugs trying to defend each other. It was just like, I was like, stop running, just people tell me that, right, he goes, I'm running it out. Okay, I'm not getting so I'm going straight to the water to have a sip. So my gosh, Yeah, dude, it was so funny. It was so hot. Was my first game, and it was just absolutely terrible, terrible. But um, but I have both both ends of the spectrum. The reason why I answer your question kind of like halfway, like maybe because it's funny. Like playing in Green Bay, you always think the opponent like it's going to be old for them. Remember like every time Miami came up, they would wood green Bay in the cold, so it didn't matter. But yeah, I actually I prefer I'll weigh a hot game like that over a cold game any day. Chicago, it is the worst place on earth to play football. I played in that game in two thousand I think it was two thousand seven. There was two thousand seven. We already had a division, we already had a first round by We did not need this game. But it's the Bears, so we you know, it's the rivalry. And remember the day before we got there, it was like minus ten, but there was no wind. If there's no wind, there's no win. It is all It's all right. The day of it is minus sixties miles and I'll win. It was brutal. So I remember during it was off. I remember during pre game like I'm just like trying to catch a point but it's not happening because the ball is going over the place. And I look at Brett five, I'm like, okay, Brett Farve never missed the game, you know, took Viking and without water, like just absolutely maniac, you know. So and so I go over. I'm like, this is not bad, right, He's like, well, this is the worst way I've ever played in I am cold, and I was like, oh man. So I run into the locker room. I'm like, guys, I said, Bret's cold. Who's gonna lose today? In that would shake me. I said we're gonna lose and we got absolutely humbled that game. I remember Ryan Grant. He kept scoring touchdowns, so he kept breaking long runs. We're like, dude, like just stop, like we're trying to we're trying to end this game and get the heck out of here. He's like, he's like, I got incentives, Like I got a hundred yards, I can get like a million dollars something crazy like that. So we'll bringing it back to the Dolphins. Do you think after what you saw last week, are they for real? I think so. Um, I think so because they're they're competing on all levels. You know, I think everyone was just waiting, but finally two would be in a situation where he can do his thing, and now he also has legit playmakers on the outside. You know. It's like when Marino had Mark Duper and Gary Clark like out there doing his thing. It's like that, and they got a guy who legit is is keeping the energy chill and they're having fun down there. So you know, I feel like you can have all the swagger and arrogance long to prepare for it, and I feel like that's what's going on with them, so right now, Yeah, I like them. I like the especially the two wins they had. You know, the Baltimore, Buffalo, very different wins, very different win. Well that was so much fun. Thank you for being a good sport. Yeah, yeah, all good. And I'm yeah, I'm hoping to cut touch base in London because there are a lot of good wine bars. I sent you that list. You already knew some of them. Thanks for your time. Thank you, will okay, Jerry. Now it's the time where we can really break down Entourage and I am in season three. I am loving this season. By the way, Busy Phillips has a Rottweiler. Your dogs meet at the dog park. You guys end up hooking up, but then are an old attacks her dog. I mean it was a great episode. I was backing up. Yeah. Every now and then, we always would do these episodes where I would be fortunate enough to like where my character goes off with Kevin Dillon, Johnny Drama's character for these kind of bizarre storylines that have nothing to do with like the a storyline of the plot, but also Kevin Dillon and Johnny Drama is so brilliant and so effortlessly funny. I was just like along for the ride that episode, the dog park one where we kind of have this meet cute with our dogs, and we go back to So I struggled with that because, look, I'm not saying all actors are supposed to be able to do everything right. I could give me to ride a horse. I could ride horse. I am not known for, like my love scene slash makeout sare. That's not my skill set. That's not why you kind of hire me to do a thing. I'm not the heart throbby guy. It's just not what. It's not my skill set, right, So having a scene like that, I just remember almost in my mind just being liked, I really I don't want to do this. I felt like, I like also, you like, you're just meeting the person for the first time pretty much. I've met Busy at one other time. So I's like, hey, all right, well now we're meeting and we gotta we gotta kind of do it do this. So it's awkward. Those scenes are the worst. I always imagine. I would just think, God, I don't want my parents and my grandparents to watch. By the way, how about this, I'll give you one better every year. Uh. You know, we have a big premiere for Entourage where they would show two episodes, right, they showed that one at the premiere in New York, which my whole entire I'm just saying to my nineth year old grandmother for that scene. And she, to her credit, she was laughing. She was a good sport. But I tell you right now, I if you offered me an opportunity to Jerry, you know what, you will never have another kissing or love scene or anything like that ever again in your career. Are you okay with that? Fine? Sign me up. I don't want it. I don't need it. At those scenes, I just take them out, take them out. I don't need it. You're right, nex very convincing. Look, it's a funny. It's a funny episode. And she both of those both actors is that we worked with in that episode were hilarious. So it was a very very funny episode. But I was stressful. Oh my god. So good. Okay, And then the Fuki Jama episode was so good. Your character was a huge part of that plot. Basically, you were trying to get these shoes that were special edition and then Vince ended up buying them with your name for what twenty grand or something. Tell me about that episode. Yeah, so that is one of the if I had the top five episodes that I get asked about the most or come up the most, that one is certainly in the top five talked about with like fans on the street and what was cool about that one? And Entourage did do this a lot back then. This is where oh seven, you know, sneaker culture was not nearly what it was today as mainstream. Not a lot of people knew that people waited online like they were waiting to buy tickets for Star Wars for a shoe drop. That was news to some people who weren't in that world. We showed that on screen, so it definitely opened up people's eyes to what that place was. Now. That episode with the gold fuki Jamas, the Air Force ones, I think there was five or maybe six ever made. Okay, I have the ones. People ask me all the time if you still have Did you keep those? He's like, yes, I kept them. Some of them have been sold up the six there's been two that have sold at like southebes I think for like a hundred and something thousand dollars only for you be a Harlan Decker, because you were were fast new friends and co hosts and business partners I went into the vault and I had to, Uh, I had to bust these bad boys out because everyone always asks. And now it has its own language on and obviously this this says Turtle. This says Salvatore Assante, which is the character's name. You'll find out. And this is all cool writing. All the writing on the shoe is right here. Jerry, you just told me Turtle's real name. I didn't know that yet. No, I didn't. I did not. That wasn't it. You've said before you that was That's not it. Cut that part out. Can we cut that part out of your brain? Could you just delete that? But anyway, I have the O G s from that episode. These are them. If you ever hear about me selling them, that means something really bad probably happened and I needed some money. But no, I don't have a plan on the only place. Maybe if like the Television Hall of Fame ever wanted them, maybe we could talk. But uh yeah, not giving those bad boys up anytime soon. Okay, Well that was really good. I am loving season three. Like I said, I feel like I'm right in the meat of the show. You are if if there is an entourage, heyday you're you're in it, or you're entering the you're entering the Heyday, you're entering the I guess our our prime, our athletic prime. I love it. Well, we're in the prime of this episode. Let's get Peter Andrew alright's time for one of my favorite parts of the show. We gotta get to some Week four wagering with bet MGM. Betting analysts are odds on favorite Peter Andrew. Yes, Peter, we're just gonna we're gonna bypass some things last week. We're gonna just say we're not gonna really recab. We're just gonna call it an over. Was it an over? It was an over? I should have known Thursday Night football, when were we two Friar Muth receptions away from hitting seventeen to one, so close? All downhill from there. Sunday was embarrassing and my Niners crush crushed my dreams. Terrible game Sunday night that kind of killed me in every which way. Yeah, not a great game to watch. But I will say you you real, and I said it last week. You're getting so close on the single game parlay. So that's I'm really going to be interested in hearing. So we're not going to spend too much time on the recap. It's a new week. That's the beautiful thing about football. We kind of wipe this lay clean and uh, you have a good smile on your face. Where is your head at with these ten units we have, I don't even know who you are in the year, just so I lost track. We might be down a little bit, but listen, there's a good story coming week four. I think I think we're gonna get to where we want to be. Um, I'll start with what I'm calling the Olivia Special. We got a London match about the Packers, we got the Chiefs, so I'll start with the London match. Saints plus two and a half I think technically their home here and over there at tottingh Hotsburg Stadium playing against the Minnesota Vikings without Delvin Cook so pretty serious shoulder injury. I think it's dislocated, so he may be out quite some time. Madison decent backup but here nor there. Saints past defense fifth in the league as it stands right now, They're going to be throwing the ball the Vikings. Justin Jefferson. Not a good game last week. I think Marshawn Lattimore can do the same that they did last week, which is keep them to under fifty yards, keep it a lower scoring game. And then on the other side of the ball. The Vikings past defense is the fourth worst. Christal Lovey amazing game last week a hundred forty plus yards. Michael Thomas first two weeks of the year has been really strong. This seems very lopsided to me. I was kind of leaning Vikings for looking into it a bit, just because I think they need this win. But the lean is on on the Saints. Given all of that, and given the Dalvin Cook injury, I feel really good about that. I thought you were going Vikings for sure. I'm surprised you've switched. I switched. My My head is all over the place. I'm just feathers are ruffled from last so I so I switched last minute. But but I feel good about two and a half. You could even take a money line, but play it safe with the two and a half points. You go three units on that, right units on that. So we'll do the same as last week, three units on each of these and then will wrap with the one und all the one game parlay. All right, there's one. We got two to go next Packers ten and a half at home. No mac Jones most likely it's a big number. But this Pat's team is not that good. Mac Jones high ankle sprain. I'm guessing he's out next week. I know he played a bit boy like Belichick does. Pat's allowing a hundred sixteen rushing yards a game. Aaron Jones very quiet last week. A J. Dillon very quiet last week. I think the tide shift a little bit. They have a really good game. I see this is probably seventeen twenty point when doesn't seem like it could be close. Again. Pat's team that just underwhelms me a bit, especially in that division. They just they don't look like they did last year. I think this is a bit of a back to Earth kind of season for them. But let me ask you this, do you think mac Jones is worth however many points it dropped because Brian Hoyer is capable and uh in a normal everyday game, maybe playing at Green Bay against Aaron Rodgers, it's a little bit of both. It's it's obviously let's say mac Jones is worth three or four points, but Aaron Rodgers is worth seven to ten points in my opinion, so pretty impressive game last week against the Bucks. One throw in the fourth quarter was ridiculous. I think it was the Robertson and just literally put it in the perfect spot that no other quarterback can do. Don't care if your Patrick Homes anybody, no one can do what he did. Really impressive. So yeah, I see this as a blowout came and to be honest, the first three weeks of the season have been very favorable for the sports book. I think this is one of those weeks you see a lot of the favorites start coming around and winning. Allright, things get a little bit more normal now, a little bit more normalized, and I think that will take you to the last one. So the other three units, which is Chiefs minus two and a half at Tampa Sunday Night football, I thought it was a very very un characteristic day for the Chiefs. The penalties, the off kicks, the fake field goal. I mean you can see Mndola replacing Bucker missing extra pointments in the field goal. Just was not Chiefs football. In my opinion. Mahomes furious at the enemy. Weird game, and I think they shape up this week. Their money line minus one thirty five. You can take the spread at two and a half, but I like the money line. Just them to win out right. I think it is a relatively close game. But again, that kind of is one of those weird games. I was all over the Colts, which was great, but it was one of those games they should have won seven different times and they just left them in. Let Matt Ryan kind of stay in the game when he had a pretty poor game for most of the first three quarters. Most likely, I mean, yeah, just I think it was a wake up call for them, so they come in. I was on the Colts, so I had that. I know, I gotta start getting this text chango and I had Ravens two and a half, Colts Muney line, and then to finish the parlor was niners. So could have cashed out, I didn't. Now this really is and this is an O. H. Dlia Harland Decker betting slip. I'm seeing you got the Vikings three units minus two and a half in London, maybe's Packers minus ten and avers that you got the Chiefs. I mean that that's straight up. You might have to you might have to ride with that one. Olivia. We need MGM we have Listen. I don't know if we talked about this, but one of our parent companies, Enting is based out of London. We can get your sorted on the book if you want to say the word Lodbrook's Coral when you name the name the book, we'll get the prices up there. Maybe we'll do the h D special put it up live for everybody in the UK. Never know. So this is what I think your most due for everyone. I've been saying it for for a while. You're you're knocking on the door, You're buzzing the tower like top gun. Okay, with these single Gay Parlay's Thursday Night Dolphins in Cincinnati, what do you got for us? Because I think this is the week I might just auto drop this in a betting slip, Peter Andrew, we need you your only hope here there Tursday Night Dolphins Bangled. What do you got? And I will say two weeks in a row again. If you are opted into our one game party insurance, you would have got your steak back again because we had everything else last week except for Friarmouth, so we would have got you covered this week. I'm decreasing the odds a little bit, so it's ten to one plus one thousand. I got the over forty seven and a half. I have t t Higgins any time touchdown plus te Higgins over fifty yards, and I'll talk about kind of my rationale there. And then the last one, which is a bit off the grain, is Micasecki anytime touchdown. So last week ty Conklin tight end, you can call him tight end one or two for the Jets eight receptions eighty three yards. They could not find a way to stop tight ends in the game. I think that follows suit this week. So that's why I've kind of taken Giseki to to score touchdown in terms of in terms of te Higgins. You saw it last week a little bit too, when you have a cornerback one all over Jamaar Chase doesn't have a great game. Savian Howard on Miami probably does the same thing this week. So then you look at te Higgins amazing week last week coming back from mid game injury. I think fifty yards on a touchdown very reasonable. He probably should have had that sick one in the end zone last week too, So you know, we're decreasing the odds a little bit, but plus a thousands still a nice payout. So whatever a unit is for you to win, tend to one pretty sweet. I feel really good about it, feel really good about the Olivia special. Just getting back to basics here, I think we get back on the right path. He I'm curious we were talking about it in the open, all these enders. I mean, I know you're taking the over on Thursday night, but what's your reasoning here? Why are all these enders hitting? I don't know if it's it's worth a conversation with our trading guys, because you know, traditionally everybody loves taking the over, so I wonder if they've kind of moved line slightly too to match that a little bit, and that goes across the industry, not just with that MGM, but really really interesting. I think it's something like of hit, which is very very abnormal. And then you can say the same correlation with dogs winning verse first favorites. So this is why I think we don't fret kind of too much in the first three weeks. I think we get back to reality a little bit. This week. I'd expect a tougher day for the books and maybe you see a couple more overs, a couple more favorites here. Yeah. Right, when you think things are going to get normal is when the overseas games started. If nothing can be normal at Totten of Hotsburgh, come on, see things has always for coming on. That was a lot of fun. Yeah all right, Olivia, another one in the books. I think we're definitely hitting our prime here, as you mentioned earlier and before we go, so, I want to make sure you guys follow bet mgm our YouTube channel. You could find all kinds of great content. They're including full episodes of Unleashed. You can watch interviews, your betting advice, and maybe even my Entourage recaps or some of those fancy shoes. I just showed everybody so good show today, Olivia. That's my favorite one yet. I'm gonna pour my self another glass. It's almost eight pm here in London. This was a fun episode. Finally the time change has worked in your favor for this one. Thanks everybody. Great show.