From the King of Sports Books comes the King Sports Podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Joanna's Papas and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome in everyone. This is Unleashed by bet MGM, the King of Sports Books, and it is officially the most wonderful time of the year. It's a winter wonderland of sports. Bowl season. Nick Saban eating yummy rat poison, big NFL games as the playoff picture starts to take shape, college hoops, and Janice is deck right in the tree with New York Giants ornaments. Something tells me that is accurate, right, Johnnie? It is accurate. I mean it has to. The Giants have to be good for something in my house. At least they look good on a tree right now, because they a horrible on a gridiron. But we've got a huge show coming up. We can ask our guests all about that. It's Kevin Harlan joining the show. Two time National Sportscaster of the Year, Voice of NBA two k NBA on t n T, NFL on CBS Monday Night Football and The Super Bowl on Westwood One. He's also my dad, and he's also a recurring guest. Now this is his second appearance. Honest, what are you going to ask him about? I'm a little nervous. We haven't talked about this. I have not been excited for a guest on this show as much as I've been excited for the patriarch of the Harlans. Finally, I got so many questions to ask about Little Olivia. I want to know everything, so I'm not going to give it to you right now. I'm gonna let it all happen in the moment and see you react. I can't wait. Okay, something tells me like I might start crying during this interview. My dad is the most sentimental, sappy person in the world. He's like my best friend person I respect most plets. I'm pregnant, so hormones are running like crazy, so I feel like I'm just gonna cry. And I'm flying to Europe tonight and I don't get to see him before because this man works more than anyone, so I'm just happy to see his face before I get on that long flight. So this is really special. After the interview, we're going to get some Week four team betting advice from Peter Andrew some huge games this weekend, including Ravens and Browns. Something tells me that might be one of our punishment picks, and the Rams try to get things right against the league's best team, the Arizona Cardinals, who are now two games up on them in the NFC West. It's a lot going on, but first we've got to give it up to the big news of the week. They finally did it. Congrats to the Detroit Lions and head coach Dan Campbell for getting their first win of the season. They beat the Vikings Jared Goff with a walk off winner. Look, the whole country was cheering for them that night, and it was so cool to watch. Here's head coach Dan Campbell after the game. I'm proud of our guys, man, I'm happy for them, of course, I'm happy. We're all happy. I'm happy for the coaches, I'm happy for everybody. But it's like, you want this so bad for the players, man, because they're the ones who put in all the hard work and the sweat and the tears. And yeah, we all do, and so do the coaches man, and uh and but it's also that's what makes this great, you know. And it it looks when you lose. It hurts. It's hard. It's hard, but it's also why winning is so great ness lead because it's not easy to do and when you get them, man, it's special. So the Lions are officially one ten and one. That is some weird record. Yeah, it's were you excited to see them win or did you want them to go oh sixteen and one? Uh. I'll say this earnestly. Before what happened there, I wanted to see them go oh in sixteen because it's just it's fun to watch a team go oh in sixteen. But you know, I was rooting for them after, you know, the tragedy that happened there in Detroit, and so it was nice that the fans over there got a little gift, little early Christmas gift with a victory. Beautiful America was rooting for him. Yeah, that was really cool and even better that they dedicated the win to that high school. So sad for that community. Just you hate turning on the news in the morning and seeing that it's horrible. You know, that's the beautiful thing about sports. It's just a great outlet after something like that happens for everyone to get together root for their team. I remember, you know, the baseball playoffs after nine eleven, and how cathartic that was. So just sending a lot of love to Detroit, sending a lot of love to that whole area, and congratulations on Now I'll switch gears. You're only one of the season. Your team sucks. Oh god, I was about to say that was really beautifully said. Yeah, there you go. Let's get to our bad beat of the week winner, Bad beat of the Week at Mel Richards eleven and just like every week, it's always a parlay, which makes me nervous to always do a parlay, but that's also where you make the big money. Well, my man, Mel, he had seven picks and the one that lost was the Bruins. See, I wouldn't even go there, the Tampa Bay lightning at the Boston Bruins. I who follows hockey, who's based on hockey, just getting probably a lot of our listeners, but yeah, this was this was all hockey, my man. Yeah, yeah, my man must be from Finland or Canada because in the good Old Glory we're all about football. My friend, it's a man's sport. So six of the seven hit, so that is a bad beat. Mel but congratulations because you get a hundred bucks from bed MGM just to use on site credit, just to use on your next bet. And I hope this one works out for you and you could win some big money. Okay, now it's time for us to sound off on one topic we feel passionately about this week, you know, the deally honest, it's time to one, It's time let's fudle. The college football playoff has finally been set and we've got my bulldogs, number three seed Georgia versus the Big Ten champs, number two Michigan in the Orange Bowl. The Wolverines are currently a nine point underdog. That might change a little bit. I think Georgia will give them hell. They got so off their mark us Alabama. I had to watch them slowly bleed out in front of my eyes. It was tragic, tragic, my alma mater. It was sad. In the top seed, the SEC champs Alabama taking on number four seed, the American Athletic Conference champs Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl. And remember you, honest, we talked about this last week. I explained this to you. Group of five conferences are like j V to the Power fives. Varsity. So Cincinnati fans and people who argued that a Nonpower five school deserve to go, congratulations. The glass ceiling has been broken, and they have to write the committee couldn't leave a perfect team out because they aren't a name brand there, that generic brand on the bottom shelf that your mom gets you when she tells you you've got to tighten things up. And their prize now for a perfect season. Oh yeah, just a date with the most dangerous team in college football, the Alabama Crimson Tide. Alabama is currently a fourteen point favorite of fourteen point favorite in a national semifinal. That's bad in this playoff format has led to so many blowout games already. It's a hard sell. And that's why a lot of people don't get behind college football or understand the playoff because you have a kind of random conglomerate of four teams. Now again, I agree with the four teams they picked. I just think we need to expand the playoffs so we're not going to have these kind of blowouts. So we know, Cincinnati's undefeated with a big win over Notre Dame that was back in October. That loss kept the Irish out Notre Dame was the only team Cincinnati faced in the FPI Top forty, and their strength of schedule ranked eighties seven in FBS. Honest, I know you say you need an accounting degree you to figure out college football, but tell me you understand that. I don't understand it. I do not, And I can we stop treating the playoffs in college football like the Academy Awards? And while we're at it, can we get rid of the name the cotton Ball? Come on, that's a whole nother topic, my man, that is. But yeah, so the point is Cincinnati didn't have a strong schedule and they didn't exactly dominate the mediocre competition in the American athletic competition. So no disrespect to my man, Nick lash and a lum, but there's a reason the bear Cats are a two touchdown underdog. So personally, I don't even think Cincinnati was the best school in Ohio this year. And if we really just put together a playoff of who we want to see play each other, I think people would have put Ohio State back in there and have another great game like we saw against Michigan. But hey, we're about to find out the bear Cats are in and now it's time to show that they actually belong. I mean, you kill it with those and the way you keep going in on this. I has hoped that these committees and college football powers that be are listening to our podcast because O H. D has got a few words for you, my friends. I love it to piggyback on that. Let's stay in college a little bit. I also have something to unleashawan on college football, and that's new ball coach down in L. S U. Brian Kelly. College football coaches are by far the most unloyal people in the game, backstabbers. I mean, they will cheat on you the first chance they get. And that's just what Mr Brian Kelly dead. Uh. Just a few weeks ago, Brian Kelly had said, unless the fairy Godmother comes by with that two hundred and fifty million dollar check, my wife would want to take a look at that first. I'd have to run it buy her. I don't buy it. Well, I guess the fairy Godmother isn't L. S U Alum because he's gone. He's gone with the wind. He bailed on Notre Dame like I bail when the check comes. At dinner with O H. D and her husband Sam. I saw that contracted Turkey the Irish. They still had a very good chance to make the college football playoff, but he basically left them at the altar like it was an episode of The Bachelor. This is ridiculous, too much drama. But what was even worse was after the news broke, Brian Kelly had his players come to a meeting the next morning at seven a m. Seven a m. To tell them the news that they already knew. And it was an eleven minute meeting. Then he got back on the private jet back to Louisiana. I mean, are you serious, Like these kids haven't been through enough. You made them get up at seven m. Shame on you, Brian Kelly. You should have done this over zoom. Then Brian Kelly shows up at halftime of an l s U basketball game, and this is my favorite part. He takes them my and listen to this thank you, thank you. Well, that's a great way to get started. And I haven't even run all my games yet. It's a great night to be a Tiger. I'm here with my family and we are so excited to be in the great state of Louisiana. But more importantly to be with you great fans and to be part of what is going to be an incredible ride here at Louisiana State University. I mean, is he auditioning to be the host of Senel this season? This is a great way to get started. I'm here with my family. I mean, I haven't heard a fake accent that bad since I saw Lady Gaga in the House of Gucci or any time Madonna opens her mouth. Look, since this is college, I have an idea. If a college coach is going to leave for a new job and bail on the team, they should have to do at least a wapash game across campus. Had enough, and anyone who's done a waka shame across campus knows that that's about the worst punishment you could ever have. That's not me, but just anyone who had so I completely agree with you, Janice. That's a great topic to unleash. And here's my thing. L S was looking for a football coach for next season. This could have waited a week, And if it had waited a week, we would have known Notre Dame is knocked out. Cincinnati's in the whole thing. I agree the timing was horrible. The money is not and I always defend coaches on this. It's a business, and I'm sorry they're gonna go where the money is. And l S is one of the best jobs in college football. Notre Dame, you could also offer is one of the best jobs in college football. But it's a business. I have no problem with it. I got a problem with the timing, though, But that was a great Unlis, a good job. I love seeing you get into college football. Yeah, and it just again shows that I am the heart of the show and you are the cold rational brain. You just I mean, that is cold hearted. I mean, where's your heart, Olivia. My heart's in Turkey. My heart's already on the flight. Let's bring in my dad to talk some NFL and NBA. It's Kevin Harland. This is such a treat Dad. This is your second appearance on the show, and I feel like I should handle it with a bit more professionalism since you are one of the best to do what you do. You have a front row ticket to the best events in sports, and we should handle this just sticking XS and nose. But something tells me Janice is going to mess that up for me. I got a lot of questions about the little girl that Olivia was. I can't wait. I'll just say I've told Tolivia many times you are my favorite announcer on a huge basketball fan. So you know I've been watching you on TNT, listening to you on t NT for years. You call a very exciting game, and I appreciate you. Well, you're so kind. Thank you for those wonderful words. I appreciate coming from someone like you. That's that's very nice. Thank you. Well, let's start with one of your great calls this weekend. Again, you do three games every weekend, Sunday on CBS, NFL, Monday Night Football on Westwood One, and then you rush to do a Tuesday NBA game on t n T. So any weekend you can have a long list of great calls. But one I really like this weekend was at the Seahawks game at the end, and I've been in that stadium. It does shake, and tell me what it felt like in the booth because your call was something and you can fix me on this, but I thought you said, I hope the engineers feel confident in their work because this place is shaking. Something like that, that's basically what I said. And first, I've only been in two stadium was that shirt like that? One was the Old Mile High Stadium in Denver, and when I was broadcasting the Chiefs, the Broncos would found the Chiefs. It seems like every time we played out there, and when that stadium was going on, the old Stadium, the Old Mile High, it really moved. I mean you could see it and you could definitely feel it. So I hadn't been in any kind of situation until this past weekend when the Seahawks came up with the big defensive play to see a win and beat their arch rival San Francisco forty niners, and it started shaking. But at first I thought, are my feet going nub is something wrong with the floor like in water? Like I couldn't have lost my footing. And I looked out and I thought my going crazy here, And then I think, oh my gosh, it's moving. And listen, this is not the first time that stadium has moved with a crowd. That they did years ago on Marshawn Lynch at a very famous run in the playoffs against the New Orleans Saints, and there was so much movement in the stadium from the fans going berserk that it registered on the seismic measuring thing at at a local geological center. So I've not seen if this registered, but it was thunderous and it was exciting. I always wondered how do you keep such an impartial tone and when you're calling a game, like I assume you have a favorite team, but that never really comes through. And that's the thing that pisses sports fans off the most when they watch a game, if they feel like an announcer is favoring one team over the other. When you call the game, I notice you're excited about anything that happens, and you call it with enthusiasm. How do you separate? How do you separate your art from your job when you do it well? I'm a big sports fan to begin with the honest, and I really do not care who wins. If I had to favor a team, I like the underdog because it makes for a better story for whatever outlet I'm with CBS or T n T or West with one. So I'm always looking for an upset. I'm always looking for the underdog perhaps to do it, but I do not care who wins. I just want a good broadcast. So I'm rooting for our CBS team or wherever I'm with that particular broadcast, I think the fan probably comes out in me more than it should. I'm always in wonder on how these guys do what they do at these big moments, whether it was last night in Buffalo with the Patriots and the Bills with forty mile winds and snow and how they were able to survive and eventually win New England, or the game in Seattle the night before when the Seahawks pulled the big upset, as they had been kind of unrattling and they were able to come in and beat a San Francisco team that was really playing well and had a lot of momentum. So I think I try to balance it as much as I can. I am not I really don't have a favorite player. I really don't have a favorite team. I've done the Packers and the in the Super Bowl and they were playing the Steelers and I really didn't care. I was really selfish that day. I wanted just a good broadcast, and it was great the Packers, one that was not rooting for them, and if Roethlisberger had come up with a big throw in that game to beat the Packers out of been as excited as if Rogers had done the same thing to the Steelers. So I'm just a fan like the two of you, and like I'm sure most of the people watching it's uh, I love sports, and probably the fan comes out of me maybe a little bit more than it should. Unfortunately for a little in texts on that Super Bowl too, I believe that was your first one doing the national radio broadcast. Yes, it was for the National Rabowl. I had done one for CBS back in two thousand one, when HD television was just getting some traction and they had two separate broadcasts they had I think Great Gumble was their number one NFL broadcaster, and he and Phil Simms. It was down in Tampa. It was the Giants and the Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl, and they were doing regular television debt, regular death, and we were doing high death. We were doing HD. Now that we're probably only they thought maybe a half million HD TV sets in the United States, but there were millions all over the lobe, and so it basically had more of an effect. Our broadcast has probably seen more in Asia and in Europe than it was in the US. But that was the first in the first radio I Is Right movie that was that was the first one in Dallas with the other Packers and the Steelers in the two thousand and ten season, and it was played in two thousand eleven. In that game, just if there was any game to have some fandom in, it probably would have been that one. My dad was a Packer ball boy as a little kid. He grew up at Packer training camp. His dad constructed that team, hired that GM he had just retired, and so but it was his fingerprints were all over the franchise and all over that team. So I know our family felt extremely proud if that was going to be the Packers win. It felt like that was our Papa Boys win. We called Papa Boy. So the fact that you were able to remain neutral on that game is about impressive as it comes. But that that was a great question, honest. Well, I I just like good plays and by stars or little known players, and and a great play is a great play everyone since well, how can you how can you blow up asking in the first quarter? But it's just actacular catch or a great throw or a tremendous shot. Who's to say that it's not less spectacular because it happened early in the game than late in the game. Now, certainly consequences are different, but a great play is a great play, and I would just as soon celebrate all all the great plays. You mentioned that Monday night football game, Patriots app Bills. That was a weird looking game, but if you're a hard nosed football fan, that was probably just what you ordered, right. It was just running the ball. Mac Jones attempted three passes altogether. Bill Belichick was just playing chess. He was in his prime. What was your takeaway from that game? Just the brilliance of Belichick. You know, just when you think that the narrative is right, Brady made Belichick, and Brady goes and went to the super Bowl, and Brady has had all this post Patriots success, But think of it. Think what Belichick has gone through last year. They lost many key players because they opted out in the COVID season, in the pandemic season, and they were working with the quarterback that clearly is not even close to what he once was and Cam Newton. They had to completely restructure their offense into something that neither of the offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels or Belichick wanted to use, but there were no alternatives. They were left kind of high and dry. And then with COVID and everything else, they won seven games, seven wins with that team, and that quarterback last year may have been a better coaching job than what he's doing this year. Now that he's got some people back, you know, he's gotten the reinforcements. Back. Guys are off the opt out list. They're now playing on defense, in particular a couple offensive lineman. And then they take a chance in the first round. The first time Belichick has ever done this is draft a quarterback in the first round. And this was the fifth one taken and might be the best of the five. And he was number fifty overall. And he is as much like Brady, Like if Belichick went into a laboratory and started to take any this guy's left arm and that quarterback's right arm, and this quarterback's mind, and this quarterback's footwork, and this quarter went out vision like this is what he would have like if I were gonna if he was going to recreate a twenty two year old version of Tom Brady, this would be the guy he came from Alabama, where he played for the Belichick a college football and Nick Salman. He played in big games, He played in a pro style offense. They run their program, Livy, you know this because you've done a lot of Alabama games. They run their program like an NFL team. So this kid leaves Tuscaloosa and goes to Foxborough and doesn't blank because it's the same culture, it's the same message, and it's worked out beautifully. And the fact that he basically changed everything for that game last night. He ran the ball all the quarterback through three times. Um, it was like the perfect game plan by arguably the greatest coach that that sport has ever seen. I've noticed that, well everyone notices, but that your voice is such a big part of what you do. Did you get into what you got into because of your voice or did you notice your voice was good for it after you started doing it. You know, my voice is not the voice that I dropped, right. I mean, there's no you can alter it. You can change the speed, you can you can strengthen it, you can do all those things. But you what you have is kind of what you have. And in my mind, I hear voices like, uh, Pat summer Roll and Race Scott and John Facenda and Jim Simpson and Frank Gleieber, and I try to visualize. It's weird to say, but visualize those kind of voices. But when I was a younger podcaster, like anyone who might be in their teens or early twenties, my voice was still developing. And what I sound like now is nothing like when I sounded like even when I was fifty, and that didn't sound like when I was forty. Like, it's just kind of matured a little bit, and and probably it comes with confidence and relaxation and everything else. But I am, and Olivia would tell you this, I am big on delivery. I've always told her that when she's doing a sideline reporter, you're honest working with you. A so so topic or subject or story told with a great delivery is far more captivating than a great story or great interview, and you're tripping over your words and talking too fast and searching for the right word. And so I am all about delivery. And when I get these links that these kids in college send and say, hey, what do you think of my work? Can you give me a few tips? And I listen, I can tell them about the first you know, ten fifteen seconds if they might have it. And there are some that are terrific because just the voice you can teach the other stuff. You can teach preparation, you can teach, you know, how to kind of manage and construct a game broadcast. But what you can't teach is what the Good Lord blessed you with or didn't bless you with. And then I always say, if a kid doesn't have maybe the voice or delivery, say, you know what, the great thing about our business is that you can go in about fifteen different directions. Maybe you're not cut out to be on the air, but boy, you can produce, or you can direct, or you have got a great feel for lighting or for audio or for whatever marketing or prints like like, you can go in a million different directions. And that's the great thing about this business or or podcast. You can Yeah, I have a horrible voice that I'm doing this sound Now you're like family. I watched so many of these things that you wo love you have done together that I feel like you know the rhythm of the show and everybody you've add on and and have come to really appreciate you, and I'm so thrilled she's working with a pro like you. Thank you well, yann As you laugh every time before we start, I go three to one. In fact, that what's kind of our stick we do before we start. But that's kind of my process to get my voice down where I wanted. And honest, I have a question for you before you do stand up. I'm sure you have some kind of process, whether it is some visualization, something about your voice, something about the way you're standing or your body is moving. I mean, what's something you run through before you do stand up? Yeah, just like your dad just said, Um, it's about delivery and what I do. So the most important thing is being in the moment, being there. So I have to make sure I am there. I have to get out of my head all if I'm having a bad day, whatever it is, I gotta leave that. I gotta compart to menalize that and put it away and get in the moment. I think athletes talk about that all the time. Their best game is getting the zone is when they're in the moment. So it's the same with comedy because you've got to be in the room with those people when you're do in live comedy. So it's all about grounding myself. So I'll usually open with something that I'm just ripping on in the moment, just so I can feel in the room, and then I go into the jokes that I know. But that's the uh yeah, that's that's it, right there, being in the moment. So getting that frame of mind right to be in the moment now, I just gotta I just want to zoom right into it. Um, did you like Sam when you first met him? What were your first impressions. Well, I met Sam when before he even had met Olivia. I had met him in the m c A tournament in Los Angeles at the regional finals. So I was very familiar with the story, being from Wisconsin and knew about his legendary folklore status in the state with his dad coaching him at a small high school. The game winning shot double team throwing a three point shot as he's falling out of bounds to win a state championship, and the state embraced him and their family, and then when he chose the University of Wisconsin, it brought it really full circle. And then to go to two final fours, so I had known his story, but it covered him before he met Olivia. And you know, these kids, these college kids, their attention span is pretty limited, all of them. And he didn't know me from that light bulb over there, but I knew his story, and that's all he really mattered. All that really mattered is that is that we knew his story and we were gonna tell I just wanted to kind of get the finishing touches on, you know, some of the questions we had asked him in our pregame meetings and interviews. But to know, I liked them, and Reggie Miller, who I was doing the game with, and Dan Bonner. When he left, he I think he came in with Frank Kamitsky, and the two of them came in at the same time and they left, and I think it was Reggie Turnemy said, this is why everybody in college sports loves the University of Wisconsin, because they go out and they get kids that really are good, solid kids. And that was my first impression of Sam. It's like just he's just a He was just a good salad boy who was clearly raised the right way. But you can tell a coaches kid too because of coaches kid, which Sam is, I think views the game differently. He goes home with the wins and losses because his dad is usually driving him home in high school, right, so he knows about how wins and loss his effective family. His dad's moved because at the end of the day, he's still his dad. So a coaches kid is a different kind of kid. And I think Sam showed and those pre Olivia meetings just the depth he had, the kind of character that he had, and so I didn't admire that from afar. And then I think it was my sister who spilled the beans that I was dating this NBA player, and that is not anything I wanted my parents to find out or not here from myself. But then fast forward hardly, like gosh, six months or so, and you were doing a Portland Trailblazers game, Rockets at Trailblazers. So Sam was with the Rockets and he asked if he could go to dinner with you, and that's where he asked if he could propose. And I've I guess I've never really heard your side of that story. Classy. Yeah, I knew it was probably coming. I paid for the dinner, so I had a feeling that was something that he was going to approach, and clearly he and Olivia was. It was love at first sight and they became inseparable. And they're two Wisconsin kids basically, you know, I mean that that's what they are, the Midwest kids. And you know, I couldn't be more proud that he's my son in law and couldn't be more proud of the decision Olivia made to choose him as the person that she wanted to spend her life with. So it's been great, you know. I I think because he's in the sport that he's in, he probably feels a little bit weird maybe that you know that I'm involved into a degree. But we've we've met, we were we really don't talk basketball when we're again, do we living? I mean we never really, Yeah, we do because he's such a big sports fan and knows it well and he's very well versed, and you know, he's a big Packers fan, big NFL fan, and no sports very well. So we've basically talked about everything almost sometimes but the NBA. But we'll talk college basketball a lot. But no, I've he's he's been a blessing to our family. I just want to say, that is a classy move to go for a full dinner with the future father in law but not pick up the check. Come on, come on, he knows. Everybody knows. Kevin's established. I mean when I asked my father in law, I was so nervous. I could not even imagine sitting for a whole dinner and and you know, trying to make small talk. No, you told this story, but I think you have. You told this story before. I think you've told this story right now. How you and your wife member? Were you sitting on a floor or something or I'm trying to go back now. That was early on one of your first shows. Oh yeah, you two did together, trying to think that you probably think, yeah, the way I proposed, the way I proposed was perfect. And that night I asked her dad. But like, it was so scary. I was so scared and so nervous that I was thinking about just leaving. I was gonna like change my name, maybe moved to Mexico. I didn't know. I just want to get out of there. And then I faced my fear and we had a moment where it was just me and him standing there and I just I just there was no small talk. I was just like, hey, can I marry your daughter? Because I did, I was so nervous, like to I would be too scared to do a whole dinner and sit down and make small talk and think of the perfect time to bring it up. So a lot of a lot of class shout out, Sam Deck or a lot of class. Well in j honest, you're gonna have this moment yourself. Your honest is the father of a one year old baby girl named g G. She's absolutely beautiful, her mother is beautiful. This girl is going to be a heartbreaker. So dad, what's your advice as a girl? Dad yourself? Yeah, well I wouldn't be too hard on the boy for what he is, but I think you got to look at it through your daughter's eyes and at the end of the day, all you want her to do is I just think that she's made the right choice and she's beyond happy and you can see you you'll feel the happiness and you're honters. We've got two of our three daughters are married, and you can feel what it is. I mean, you know when it's right and you know maybe when it's rowing too. So but sam was that that was that was a pretty easy one. Actually, that was a layout for me. But what about like high school, go back further before there's a future husband involved. Just girl dad advice, but live Remember now, the problem in high school with you was that you were crowded more times than you were free. You rarely. You really didn't get out there much high school, but when I did, there was a reason I was grounded all the time. Oh my gosh, she was a piece of work, man. But it goes other than that. Kindergarten, third grade, you had a lot of calls from the principal's office. Yeah, yeah, you know. The thing was is that, you know, you try to get mad at Olivia and we never you know, I don't think we've ever raised your voice of any of our four kids, and you try to discipline her, but then she kind of like looked down and you know, appear to be maybe like sulking or even maybe close to tears, and and then you'd kind of be done saying what you had to say in terms of being you know, involved in a reprimand and all of a sudden she kind of turned her head like this and kind of look and then put that little devilish grin on those and I go, oh, I mean, like how key. And she's the baby, so you know, it makes it, you know, TRIPLI hard to hold her. But man, if she was mad at us, she held a grudge like she still do. Yeah, she would. She would you want to go get a milk shake. Now we're seeing songs? No, I said, all right, And we would do this thing where we would say our prayers at night and we'd sing these little songs about her. And when she was mad at us, she would not let us sing the song. She would like go on, like look the other way, and and and and try to courting herself off. And it was she was a tough one. Boy, she was. She was tough. But no, I'm belishing, but she was. She was terrific. She was a wonderful, wonderful daughter. And she's continues to make us proud of every day. And it sounds like you're glad that she grew up. There are moments that I really I always told her when she was a little said I wish I could freeze you right off at this age, whether she were five or six or eight or ten, I just I said, I do all of our daughters. I said, I just I wish, I wish I could just freeze you at that age, because you just you can't even imagine as a dad anything better than when they're just those little girls and they look up at you and they respect you so much and they think you are the king. And that's an ice position to be in for a add of a daughter. So I always enjoyed that time. Well, I can tell you all three of your daughters still do that, so you never lost that. Let's get back to NFL talk. Boys. Let's let's stop messing around here. Okay, um, Dad, you mentioned earlier just about Tom Brady said, Mac Jones is the twenty two year old version of Tom Brady. Let's talk about the forty four year old version and what he's doing this season. And now the Buccaneers are sitting at nine and three, primed and ready to possibly make another Super Bowl run. What are you liking about the Buccaneers at this point of the season. Well, what I'm liking about it is what they did a year ago. Every year ago, they were seven and five and they went to nearby and there was a problem and disconnect between what Brady wanted to do, and with Bruce arians and the offense Byron Leftwich as their coordinator, and how they were they just were not connected. They were they were not in sync, and it showed Brady was thinking left and they were thinking right. He was thinking blue, they were thinking red. Like there was just no that they could not get on the same page, and the record reflected that. So they use that bye week to kind of rectify all those problems, and from that point on they want eight straight including the super Bowl. They got everything in order, they got their house in order, and then they just tore right through the rest of the NFL schedule, through the playoffs and to the super Bowl and to win. So a lot of the heavy lifting was last year. Now, as with every defending champion, it's trying to get yourself in the same mindset as you were a year ago and you were hungry and everything was new and we're winning and here's Brady and all like this stuff is coming coming together and and you reach your goal, and to make that happen again is sometimes doubly hard. The climb sometimes and anything in life is sometimes not as difficult as maintaining once you get there and maintaining that level of excellence, and that's what they've kind of learned right now that they've got the target on their back. There everybody's biggest game. He is the goat. You know, he's seven time champion and attend Super Bowls. I don't know that our lives will ever see anybody like him in pro football. So you know, he's got everybody shooting for him every Sunday, every defense. So there's just there's just a lot that they've got to deal with. But now that we're in post Thanksgiving December football, this is when guys like Brady and the Buccaneers become, you know, what they've were and have aimed for and now probably realizing when when the stakes are their highest, and he might be the m v P. Right now he's playing that way. He might be the m v P, and wouldn't that be something? At four he could possibly win it again. But he he just finds ways to motivate and I think maybe the core of it all is that he loves to play football like he loved. Some guys play it because they're good at it. Some guys play it because it brings them riches. He plays it because he really loves football. That's got to be one of the biggest reasons you played to your forty four can still go through everything that he's got to go through, allowing himself out of bed every morning, feeling every hit from the previous game, you know, getting it. It takes I'm certain it takes him every single day of every week leading up to that Sunday or whenever they play game to get his body right. It probably takes all six days between one game and the other so that he feels like all right physically and he and we know he's in great shape, but I'll guarantee you at that age with what he goes through, he feels it Monday and Tuesday. It's, you know a little bit better every day. But that's one of the more underappreciative are of being a pro athlete. It takes a whole week to get your body back to get back on that field for the next game. You have a front row seat and you're engaged in the games that you call, what players that you've called really wow you where you're watching something that really just i mean, you know, blows your mind like a Steph Curry, Michael Jordan Barry Sanders, Aaron Rodgers throwing dimes when he's when he's on the run. Like, are there some players that you've watched that really like almost take you out of your job and make you a fan because you cannot believe what you're watching. Over the years, when I'm doing the broadcast in the NFL, because we're so far away from the field, I don't think you get the real appreciation for what these guys do. It's only when I'm watching at home as a fan and I watch, you know, the flick of the wrist by Rogers, and he is a generational talent at quarterback. Then arm in arm even Mahomes, and we're seeing it kind of now, like Mahomes got a great army, and I originally thought he was gonna be Rogers two point out. But Rogers is a singular talent that we have not seen in this league, that armed talent ever. I mean not United, not Montana, I mean, go right on down the line of all the greats, Hall of famers, even Brady Manning, you know Brees, like all these guys, no one has ever had an arm and the ability to do with the football at Rogers does. He He is a singular generational talent in basketball. Because we are so close, you do begin to appreciate the players. And for me, clearly, clearly the most inspiring all inducing was Michael Jordan's I called basically every year of his career, and when he would take the ball up court by you and we are at mid court and close enough that if I leaned over the table, you could almost grab his jersey, it was almost as if his feet were never touching the court like he was. His footwork was just so elegant in his the way he maneuvered and used just little twitches to get free or two to glide down court, and it wasn't was like he was floating, And Lebron doesn't have that. Lebron is is like a tank, you know, but with barely moves and you know, an acrobatic feel. Jordan's to me, was the greatest player. Kobe had a lot of those same traits. Lebron is a completely different kind of guy, but Jordan's watching Jordan's to me was like, I mean, I'll retire someday and this question may get asked, you know, when I'm an old man, I would I would say that Jordan's probably is it has in the most impressive to watch play he was, you know the guys now you know it's it's just a different kind of professional athlete that it's a lot of self congratulations, it's a lot of theatrics. You know, Jordan's did none of that. Like Jordan's did none of it. All he did was dunk or shoot or when and like and he just kind of let that speak for time. You may look out and smile and you know, kind of give a little note like I mean, just like stuff like you and I might do. But every day that goes by, and watching the superstars we have now and how they react to success and how Jordan's reacted to success kind of defines it even more in my mind that I feel real lucky that I was able to call Jordan's Michael Jordan's basketball games for as long as I did. He was unbelievable, Like indescribable is what he was. Indescribable. I've got to ask for our final question. You hold the record for most consecutive Super Bowl is called, which is amazing. So this year's Super Bowl, we already kind of asked you about Tampa Bay and New England and some hot teams are out there. Who would you have to guess today it's December seven, who would you guess you're going to be calling on February. Yeah. I just saw Livy you know, the Patriots as we know, last night, and I just think they're the most complete team in the a f C. Lamar Jackson has kind of taking a turn. The Bengals are struggling a bit. The Chargers are too inconsistent. Um, you know, Pittsburgh six, five and one, like like I'm not seeing Buffalo clearly is groping right now. They are searching, and there's seven and five and now there they were number but five last night, I think going in and now they're down the seventh in the a f C, barely holding on. I don't know what's wrong with them. I can't. They lostred as White, who is a All Pro cornerback, and that's a killer in their secondary. He closed off a quarter of the field for opposing offenses so that it was like they were playing with one armed time behind their back. I mean, he was that good. So I'm gonna go New England because I think they're the most complete team and they've got clearly clearly the best coach. Even Kansas City has shown that Mahomes has not been what he was. Their offense, for whatever reason, is out of sink. We're late now in the season, and if it's not starting to show some fingerprints right now what they're gonna be, and they really haven't. They're winning, but they're winning ugly and kind of awkwardly. I don't know really what to make of the Chiefs, but I love New England and I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Green Bay. I think they're the most motivated and I just think Rogers is playing with a real goal. I think he he is a guy. Clearly we have found out that he is a player who sees a big world around him and thinks about legacy and you know, all these different things. He's a deep thinker, and he can't help but think at thirty eight or thirty nine, thirty eight, I thinking we just turned thirty eight. He can't help but think about what his legacy is. And right now, in a singular way, it's great because he's won three m v p s, but he's only been to one Super Bowl, and the great go to more than one super Bowl. So I think he is in a frame of mind of legacy, of putting an impact on it. And I also predict that he'll resign with Green Bay and he's going to finish out with the greatest quarterback for an organization that has had some of the greatest quarterbacks that have ever played. Honest, don't make a vaccine joke. Don't do it. Don't do it. Honest, I wasn't gonna do it. I won't do it. Livy. Don't worry, Livy. I'm not gonna do it, Little Livy. Now I know what to call you from now on. Liv Well, that's Kevin Harland. You cannot follow him on Twitter because he hates social media, but you can find him every Sunday on CBS Monday Night Football and Westwood One and NBA on TNT. Dad, thank you again. It's great to see your face before I catch this flight distant bowl. I know. Good luck, Sweete. We'll talk afterwards. Johnest, what a portution to be on with you, to watch your show every week, your podcast, and I love it, and you guys do a great job, and it was wonderful chemistry and really is a joy to listen to. Thank you, honor to have you on. Thank you for doing it. Really appreciate time to talk this Weekend's actually with our guy bet MGM Betty next Berth, the one and only Peter Andrew was kind of our third musketeer. Peter, welcome back to the show. How are you, guys, Olivia? Sorry for your for your loss this weekend. I know it's it's uh. It was more tough to watch it in person and have to watch the slow bleeding out too, But I'm really glad. I did not put money on this one. And I was banging my chest on the show last week saying, George just gonna win. They're gonna cover. And I believed it. I really did, didn't you, guys? I did, especially you know the way Georgia turned out the vote to take down Trump. I thought they had a chance. I told you, guys, don't give saving points. It's you did Metchi, I mean MATCHI and Jameson Williams are. I mean it's wide receiver you there, I mean unbelievable game. Yeah, who knew? Met You went down around halftime and then Jamison Williams got the bulk of the carries and and the reception. So I talked to him after the game, he was my postgame interview and he was just like like lit up ear to ear, smiling. He transferred from Ohio State and wanted to play in big games like this and have a chance to win it all. And he does have a chance to win it all. It's it's a great story. I love when you see a successful transfer story. But he was a great kid. And then Bryce Young more or less just tying a bow on his ticket to New York to win that Heisman. I mean, his odds now are what plus it's something crazy, but yeah, a couple of interesting things in the Higsman and you know, Kenneth Walker not getting the call in but yeah, right soon. Let me ask you this, do a lot of people put money on the Heisman that yeah, so certainly beginning of season because it's kind of like a future bet, like like picking a team to win the national championship. Lots of people do it, especially where they see value on someone maybe down the list that they know might take a jump up. And then as the season goes on a little bit. At this point, I think it becomes pretty barren because the odds becomes so great for the favorite, and it's it's gonna be really difficult for some of the dogs, like the guy from Pitt. But beginning of the season, we get tons of vets, you know, in the thousands, obviously. Really Okay, how does that compare with what you see for NFL m v P. I think you get way more action on m v P. Yeah, you know. I think it's it's the fact that there's really only one thing to vote on for college football in terms of reward awards. That's why it's just so heavily skewed on it. But for NFL, you have Offensive Player of the Year, Offensive Rookie of the Year, you have obviously m VP, So there's a little bit more variety, So you're always going to get more and obviously the nature of just knowing more of the players in the NFL versus college know how many times you're going to see a no name guy on this listening college it's pretty absolutely significant. Yeah, yeah, well what about Coach of the Year because Dan Campbell he finally gotta win. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if he's got a shot. I don't know if Sala's got a shot. You always have to look at these teams. You you obviously always look at the teams that are overperforming, but a couple of teams that are just having great seasons as a whole. I mean, Belichick may win Coach of the Year. I think he's probably the favorite. If not, he's number two. What he's done with Matt Jones and just his first you know, thirteen games and a good team without a standout player like that, maybe besides shoot On and a couple of guys. It's really impressive, and it's just staple to why Bill Belichick is the best coach ever in in NFL. Maybe besides Bill Wall. Yeah, don't forget Bill Parcels too. I mean, come on, Bill Parcels is up there. It was amazing to watch because Belichick's uh coaching savvy was really on display. This past Monday night, Mac Jones through three passes. I mean, it was a game of rugby we watched. It's it's crazy how you can know exactly what's coming the entire game and still not do anything about it. You know, Damian had said that, I think it's like a sixty five seven yard touchdown run and yet still there was one person even close to remotely you know, taffling him. So it's impressive. I mean there was a lot of different packages, but just running up the gut and they come out with the wind and the wind and the wind. The wind was How about that punt that went into the stands. I don't know if he saw before the game they showed someone kicking a field goal just in practice and it looked like my slice and golf. It just went well, let's get to this weekend's action and you get to pick some games that we have no idea, have no prep on. It's early in the week when we record this, and I'm ready to place my bets because I have a comeback in the works because Jana just whoops me every week and it really makes me mad because he does zero prep. We know that you listeners probably know that, and we get on here and he just makes me look so dumb. So I'm coming for redemption, guys punishment pitch. Yeah, So first one, Ravens plus two and a half at the Browns. Ravens a bit of a stinker last weekends. The Steelers had had a chance to win it at the end, obviously came up a bit short in Stink Division rival What do you like here. You know I'm gonna take the Browns. I don't know why. I can't really quit on this team. And the Ravens have been so up and down and that when they're good, they're great, and I just think the Browns are a little bit more you know, meat and potatoes. I feel like I trust him more so as a favorite two and a half, Let's go with the Browns. I am going with the Ravens on a bounce back when I cannot bet on any Cleveland team, no matter the point, since Lebron left. I'm sorry, it's just, you know, the only time I bet on Cleveland it is if I get sick and I need to go to the Cleveland clinic. Other than that, I'm taking the Browns. I would take the Bad News Bears against the brown I mean, I'm taking the Ravens. I'm sorry, I'm taking the Ravens. I would take the back the fuck fuck me, fun fuck fuck, I got fucking Marvels in my fucking mouth. I apologize. I am taking the goddamn Ravens. Um game game number two. I'm not gonna say this is the game of the week, but it's probably the most important game or one of Cowboys four point favorite on the road at Washington Football Team. W f T is I think two games out of a playoff spotter out of the division lead right now. So this changes the dynamic of that division with a couple of games to go. What do you guys like here? Man, I can't I'm taking I'm taking the Cowboys. I'm taking the favorite. I'm taking the Cowboys. I mean, they look too good. I feel like I'm sticking with Dallas. You know I am too. I'm going to get on that one too. I just pulled up the injury report as we know it now, and Dallas looks pretty clean. It seems like everyone's back, and when they are fully healthy, they still have a very impressive roster that can win any week. I like the Cowboys. The only thing for me is Washington Football team have been pretty pretty good at home and it seems like, you know, I don't want to say Heinuchy is the next Patrick Mahomes by any means, but they're playing around him. They're playing fairly well. And I saw, I don't know if you saw, at the end of the game the other day he was getting beaten around and getting thrown around and a lot of his players standing up for him. Just see that as a little bit of a mental edge towards them. But I'm with you, guys, Cowboys are just the more complete team. So it'll be an interesting one on Sunday. And then last one. We just talked about the Bills in that weird game this week on Monday night. Bills are plus two and a half on the road at Tampa Bay. So do they play up to the Tom Brady caliber or do you see two in a rowa in terms of maybe a black luster performance. Well, Tampa Bay is cooking and it's it's gonna be hard to stop them. However, when I saw that postgame press conference with Poyor and Hide, this team is angry. They should have one at home in that low scoring, ugly game. I just I feel like they are going to come back so hungry now short week, but I think they have a chance to win on the road. Okay, I I'm surprised by that. I'm surprised you or you're taking the Bills. Yeah, I am with the Bucks. As long as my man Gronk is healthy, and he is he's the difference maker. I mean when he's there. Brady knows he has that option. I mean, it's a rap. I'm going with the box minus two point five. Okay, I like it. I think this is the first time we disagreed on more than one, so this is gonna be interesting a little. Yeah, well, let's let's wait and find out. You're already making me regret my bills take. But I just it's so I have recently bias. I just watched all the postgame stuff and I'm like, Oh, they're gonna be dangerous next week. But who am I kidding? They're playing Tom Brady, that is it. So next week we're going to figure out who has to read the outro. But this week, because I lost, I have to read the outro. I have not laid eyes on it yet. I'm a little nervous. I told you Honest to take it easy on me, but he never does. So, Peter, thanks so much for joining us again. If you want to hop off so you don't have to hear what I have to say here, I think it's gonna make your ears ring. Uh might feel r rated. Oh no, I wouldn't miss this for the world. Okay, here it goes, Hey everyone, here, I am on familiar ground once again, losing to the Feta verse Fo Fettaata cheese Yeah, and future godfather to my child, Janna's papas. As you know, I've asked Joanni, I will be the Yeah, I will good. Sorry, I was just saying I accept. As you know, I have asked Yanni to stay at my mansion in Kansas City while we are gone to watch it and also throw social media parties with Tiktoker's to give my cribs some cloud can't wait to watch it from Turkey on my Instagram stories. As you know, I am off to Yanni's motherland, Turkey to be with my heavy who's gonna light it up from three so much it's gonna look like Turkey's Rockefeller Center. As you know, I'm headed to com Stantinople to reclaim it for rong. Joannest wrote this. I did not write this, but seriously, I'm very excited for my Midwestern son to be nourished by Morrishwarma and Dulmus. At least I want to have to take twenty nine COVID tests in quarantine for three years to go see my husband in Toronto. Anymore. COVID is a real, IMO h D and I'm out again. Didn't write that. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know. You didn't believe in COVID. You wish, you wish. That would just fit your narrative of me so much better. Just make sure you get a VPN in Turkey so you could still do the show again. I always hope my mom and dad don't listen to the end. Thanks so much for joining us everyone that is our show. Make sure you follow at bet MGM on all social media. Hit that subscribe button so you never missed an episode piece