Have you ever sat in church, said your prayers, and still felt... nothing? Like your faith was stuck in neutral? You’re not alone—and you’re not broken. In this deeply honest episode, Reverend Dr. Kyle Norman shares how his wife’s cancer diagnosis led him into one of the darkest seasons of his life, shaking the very foundations of his faith. But instead of giving up, he discovered something unexpected: God hadn’t left. In fact, Jesus was closer than ever—meeting him not in strength, but in surrender.

If your spiritual life feels dry, discouraging, or just plain confusing, this conversation is here to remind you: your struggle is not a sign of failure. It may be an invitation to meet Jesus in a deeper, more personal way than you ever have before.

In this episode, you’ll learn:


Why spiritual numbness doesn’t mean you’ve failed


How to reframe discouragement as sacred invitation


Real stories from scripture of people who wrestled with their faith


What it means to find “holy ground” in moments of disappointment


One simple but powerful practice to reconnect with God right where you are

Meet the Guest:

Reverend Dr. Kyle Norman is the rector of St. Paul’s Anglican Cathedral in Kamloops, British Columbia. He holds a Doctor of Ministry in Spiritual Formation and is the author of Alive, Loved & Free: A Spiritual Journey of Coming Home. Kyle is passionate about helping others experience the real, living presence of God—even (and especially) in the midst of life’s deepest struggles.

Connect with Kyle:


Website: kylenorman.ca


Instagram: @revkylenorman


Book: Alive, Loved & Free – available wherever books are sold

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Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads

Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care

Have you ever sat in church, said your prayers, and still felt... nothing? Like your faith was stuck in neutral? You&rsquo;re not alone&mdash;and you&rsquo;re not broken. In this deeply honest episode, Reverend Dr. Kyle Norman shares how his wife&rsquo;s cancer diagnosis led him into one of the darkest seasons of his life, shaking the very foundations of his faith. But instead of giving up, he discovered something unexpected: God hadn&rsquo;t left. In fact, Jesus was closer than ever&mdash;meeting him not in strength, but in surrender.
If your spiritual life feels dry, discouraging, or just plain confusing, this conversation is here to remind you: your struggle is not a sign of failure. It may be an invitation to meet Jesus in a deeper, more personal way than you ever have before.
In this episode, you&rsquo;ll learn:
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Why spiritual numbness doesn&rsquo;t mean you&rsquo;ve failed
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How to reframe discouragement as sacred invitation
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Real stories from scripture of people who wrestled with their faith
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What it means to find &ldquo;holy ground&rdquo; in moments of disappointment
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One simple but powerful practice to reconnect with God right where you are
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Meet the Guest:
Reverend Dr. Kyle Norman is the rector of St. Paul&rsquo;s Anglican Cathedral in Kamloops, British Columbia. He holds a Doctor of Ministry in Spiritual Formation and is the author of Alive, Loved &amp; Free: A Spiritual Journey of Coming Home. Kyle is passionate about helping others experience the real, living presence of God&mdash;even (and especially) in the midst of life&rsquo;s deepest struggles.
Connect with Kyle:
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Website: <a href="https://kylenorman.ca" data-start="1840" data-end="1878">kylenorman.ca</a>
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Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/revkylenorman" data-start="1894" data-end="1947">@revkylenorman</a>
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Book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Alive-Loved-Free-Finding-Jesus/dp/0993637612">Alive, Loved &amp; Free</a> &ndash; available wherever books are sold
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Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gemfadling/">Gem on Instagram</a> and learn more on the <a href="https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/c807b8df-15a1-423a-8649-9db69f7aa374/shows/2a294677-14cc-4597-8409-8efcedfed2cd/episodes/1ff79710-f260-475a-8a39-22315b98892e/www.unhurriedliving.com/gem">Unhurried Living website</a> and her new book, <a href="https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/c807b8df-15a1-423a-8649-9db69f7aa374/shows/2a294677-14cc-4597-8409-8efcedfed2cd/episodes/c6bd1beb-251f-42f0-92ea-21c6790a5380/www.unhurriedliving.com/holdthatthought">Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads</a>
Learn about <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/pace">PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care</a>

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.

If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website https://www.unhurriedliving.com/, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.
If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/">https://www.unhurriedliving.com/</a>, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

Unhurried Living | Helping Christians Rest Deeper & Lead Better

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence as well as your leadership. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.

If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website https://www.unhurriedliving.com/, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow Christian leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence as well as your leadership. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.
If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/">https://www.unhurriedliving.com/</a>, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow Christian leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

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