Why don’t people trust the church anymore—and how can that change?

 

In this episode, Alan talks with Dr. Eric Mason, founder and lead pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia and author of Rebranding the Church: Restoring the Image of God’s People in the World (Multnomah, 2025). Eric believes that rebranding the church isn’t about polishing its image—it’s about rediscovering its soul.

 

Drawing on more than three decades of pastoral experience, Eric calls the church to return to the heart of Jesus’ message: loving God, loving people, and embodying the gospel in everyday life. Together, Alan and Eric talk about the church’s credibility crisis, the difference between reputation and reality, and why authentic discipleship is the truest form of rebranding.

 

They also explore how believers can rebuild trust with their communities, discern truth in an age of false teaching, and create spaces of healing for those wounded by the church. Eric’s message is both prophetic and hopeful—a reminder that God still delights in renewing His people from the inside out.

 

If you’ve ever felt discouraged by what the church has become, this conversation will rekindle your hope for what the church can be: a people who live the good news they proclaim.

 

Dr. Eric Mason is founder and lead pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia and president of Thriving, an urban ministry training leaders locally and globally. He’s the author of Woke Church, Manhood Restored, and Urban Apologetics. As well as his latest book, Rebranding the Church.

 

 

Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. 

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Why don&rsquo;t people trust the church anymore&mdash;and how can that change?
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In this episode, Alan talks with Dr. Eric Mason, founder and lead pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia and author of&nbsp;Rebranding the Church: Restoring the Image of God&rsquo;s People in the World&nbsp;(Multnomah, 2025). Eric believes that rebranding the church isn&rsquo;t about polishing its image&mdash;it&rsquo;s about rediscovering its soul.
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Drawing on more than three decades of pastoral experience, Eric calls the church to return to the heart of Jesus&rsquo; message: loving God, loving people, and embodying the gospel in everyday life. Together, Alan and Eric talk about the church&rsquo;s credibility crisis, the difference between reputation and reality, and why authentic discipleship is the truest form of rebranding.
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They also explore how believers can rebuild trust with their communities, discern truth in an age of false teaching, and create spaces of healing for those wounded by the church. Eric&rsquo;s message is both prophetic and hopeful&mdash;a reminder that God still delights in renewing His people from the inside out.
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If you&rsquo;ve ever felt discouraged by what the church has become, this conversation will rekindle your hope for what the church can be: a people who live the good news they proclaim.
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Dr. <a href="https://www.pastoremase.com/">Eric Mason</a> is founder and lead pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia and president of&nbsp;<a href="https://thriveinthecity.com/">Thriving</a>, an urban ministry training leaders locally and globally. He&rsquo;s the author of Woke Church, Manhood Restored, and Urban Apologetics. As well as his latest book,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pastoremase.com/books/">Rebranding the Church</a>.
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Connect with Alan on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanfadling/">LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;or learn more about&nbsp;<a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/alan">Unhurried Living programs</a> on their website.&nbsp;
Learn about <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/pace">PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care</a>

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Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.
If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/">https://www.unhurriedliving.com/</a>, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

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Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence as well as your leadership. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.

If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website https://www.unhurriedliving.com/, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow Christian leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence as well as your leadership. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.
If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/">https://www.unhurriedliving.com/</a>, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow Christian leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

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