When Jesus calls us to follow him, he invites into a narrow way—onto a narrow path. And narrow doesn’t immediate strike us as inviting. But Jesus also tells us that he’s come so that we could experience an abundant, rich life. That’s inviting. How does the narrow way of Jesus lead us to the sort of fullness he promises? 



In my first interview of the Fall season, I’m glad to be able to share a conversation I had with Rich Villodas a few months ago about his new book, The Narrow Path: How the Subversive Way of Jesus Satisfies Our Souls. I love that title. In it, he offers a vision of how following the way of Jesus is what we most deeply and truly want. 



Rich Villodas is the Brooklyn-born lead pastor of New Life Fellowship, a large multiracial church with more than seventy-five countries represented in Elmhurst, Queens. Rich holds a Master of Divinity from Alliance Theological Seminary. He enjoys reading widely, preaching and writing on contemplative spirituality, justice-related matters, and the art of preaching. He's been married to Rosie since 2006 and they have two beautiful children, Karis and Nathan.



Previous Unhurried Living Podcast interviews with Rich:
The Deeply Formed Life



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When Jesus calls us to follow him, he invites into a narrow way—onto a narrow path. And narrow doesn’t immediate strike us as inviting. But Jesus also tells us that he’s come so that we could experience an abundant, rich life. That’s inviting. How does the narrow way of Jesus lead us to the sort of fullness he promises?  In my first interview of the Fall season, I’m glad to be able to share a conversation I had with <a href="https://www.richvillodas.com/" target="_blank">Rich Villodas</a> a few months ago about his new book, <a href="https://www.richvillodas.com/the-narrow-path" target="_blank">The Narrow Path: How the Subversive Way of Jesus Satisfies Our Souls</a>. I love that title. In it, he offers a vision of how following the way of Jesus is what we most deeply and truly want.  Rich Villodas is the Brooklyn-born lead pastor of New Life Fellowship, a large multiracial church with more than seventy-five countries represented in Elmhurst, Queens. Rich holds a Master of Divinity from Alliance Theological Seminary. He enjoys reading widely, preaching and writing on contemplative spirituality, justice-related matters, and the art of preaching. He's been married to Rosie since 2006 and they have two beautiful children, Karis and Nathan. Previous Unhurried Living Podcast interviews with Rich:<ul><li><a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/blog/podcast177" target="_blank">The Deeply Formed Life</a></li></ul> ____________________________________________________Connect with Alan on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanfadling/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> or learn more about <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/alan" target="_blank">Unhurried Living programs</a> on their website. Learn more about <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/unhurriedleaders" target="_blank">Unhurried Leaders membership</a>.

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.

If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website https://www.unhurriedliving.com/, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.
If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/">https://www.unhurriedliving.com/</a>, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

Unhurried Living | Helping Christians Rest Deeper & Lead Better

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence as well as your leadership. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.

If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website https://www.unhurriedliving.com/, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow Christian leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

Many of us feel hurried, and hurry is costing us more than we realize. The Unhurried Living Podcast with Alan and Gem Fadling provides resources and training to help Christian leaders learn to live and lead from fullness rather than on empty. Great influence begins on the inside, in your soul. Learning healthy patterns of rest and work can transform your life—your daily influence as well as your leadership. Built on more than twenty-five years of experience at the intersection of spiritual formation and leadership development, Unhurried Living seeks to inspire people around the world to rest deeper so they can live fuller and lead better.
If this podcast helps you be an unhurried leader, be sure to check out our website <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/">https://www.unhurriedliving.com/</a>, where we have books, resources, and featured membership communities so you can learn with fellow Christian leaders how to lead from abundance instead of lack.

When Jesus calls us to follow him, he invites into a narrow way—onto a narrow path. And narrow doesn’t immediate strike us as inviting. But Jesus also tells us that he’s come so that we could experience an abundant, rich life. That’s inviting. How does the narrow way of Jesus lead us to the sort of fullness he promises?  

 
Welcome to the Unhurried Living podcast, where this week Alan is interviewing our dear friend, Rich Villodas.

307: The Narrow Way of Jesus (Alan with Rich Villodas)

In this episode, we’re tackling the problem of restless dissatisfaction and how the pursuit of contentment can offer a way forward. For many of us, there’s an underlying sense that something in life—who we are, what we have, or where we’re headed—should be different. The constant pull of “what if” and “if only” can leave us feeling ungrounded and yearning for a sense of fulfillment that always seems just out of reach. As I looked back on my journal entries this year, I noticed contentment as a recurring theme in my conversations with God and with my spiritual director, reminding me of the peace and satisfaction that comes with learning to be present in the here and now.

Drawing from my own journey and insights from Brian Zahnd’s The Wood Between the Worlds, I’ll share practical reflections on how shifting our mindset toward contentment can bring new clarity and peace. This isn’t just about settling—it’s about recognizing how an inner posture of contentment can transform our experience, even when circumstances remain the same. Whether you’re a “Frustrated Idealist” in the Enneagram triad (Types One, Four, and Seven) or simply someone who finds themselves often seeking more, join me as we explore the ways contentment can anchor us in purpose, grace, and genuine satisfaction.



Links:
The Wood Between the Worlds by Brian Zahnd
The Journey Toward Wholeness by Suzanne Stabile
The Benefits of Looking Back podcast episode



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Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads

Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care

Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us

In this episode, we’re tackling the problem of restless dissatisfaction and how the pursuit of contentment can offer a way forward. For many of us, there’s an underlying sense that something in life—who we are, what we have, or where we’re headed—should be different. The constant pull of “what if” and “if only” can leave us feeling ungrounded and yearning for a sense of fulfillment that always seems just out of reach. As I looked back on my journal entries this year, I noticed contentment as a recurring theme in my conversations with God and with my spiritual director, reminding me of the peace and satisfaction that comes with learning to be present in the here and now.
Drawing from my own journey and insights from Brian Zahnd’s The Wood Between the Worlds, I’ll share practical reflections on how shifting our mindset toward contentment can bring new clarity and peace. This isn’t just about settling—it’s about recognizing how an inner posture of contentment can transform our experience, even when circumstances remain the same. Whether you’re a “Frustrated Idealist” in the Enneagram triad (Types One, Four, and Seven) or simply someone who finds themselves often seeking more, join me as we explore the ways contentment can anchor us in purpose, grace, and genuine satisfaction.
 
Links:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Wood-Between-Worlds-Poetic-Theology/dp/151400562X">The Wood Between the Worlds</a> by Brian Zahnd</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Toward-Wholeness-Enneagram-Transformation/dp/1514001160">The Journey Toward Wholeness</a> by Suzanne Stabile</li>
<li><a href="https://omny.fm/shows/unhurried-living/discernment-the-benefits-of-looking-back">The Benefits of Looking Back</a> podcast episode</li>
</ul>
 
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Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gemfadling/">Gem on Instagram</a> and learn more on the <a href="https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/c807b8df-15a1-423a-8649-9db69f7aa374/shows/2a294677-14cc-4597-8409-8efcedfed2cd/episodes/1ff79710-f260-475a-8a39-22315b98892e/www.unhurriedliving.com/gem">Unhurried Living website</a> and her new book, <a href="https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/c807b8df-15a1-423a-8649-9db69f7aa374/shows/2a294677-14cc-4597-8409-8efcedfed2cd/episodes/c6bd1beb-251f-42f0-92ea-21c6790a5380/www.unhurriedliving.com/holdthatthought">Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads</a>
Learn about <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/pace">PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care</a>
Discover more Christian podcasts at <a href="http://www.lifeaudio.com">lifeaudio.com</a> and inquire about advertising opportunities at <a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/contact-us">lifeaudio.com/contact-us</a>

316: Finding Contentment Right Where You Are

The problem of burnout among Christian leaders has become an epidemic in recent years. I’ve seen Christian leaders taking emergency sabbaticals more often than at any other point in my 40 years of ministry. The souls of many Christian leaders are in trouble.
How do you care for your soul?
How would that help address the weariness and overwhelm many are experiencing?

I’ll be talking about soul care with our guest today, Mindy Caliguire, on the Unhurried Living podcast.

Mindy Caliguire is the co-founder and president of Soul Care. In the past, she has served in executive leadership at Gloo, and the Willow Creek Association (now the Global Leadership Network). She speaks into and advises organizations including Compassion International, ECFA, National Christian Foundation, and many churches and ministries across the US and beyond. Mindy’s books include:
Discovering Soul Care
Spiritual Friendship
STIR
The book we’re talking about today, Ignite Your Soul.

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Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. 

Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care

Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us

The problem of burnout among Christian leaders has become an epidemic in recent years. I’ve seen Christian leaders taking emergency sabbaticals more often than at any other point in my 40 years of ministry. The souls of many Christian leaders are in trouble.
<ul>
<li>How do you care for your soul?</li>
<li>How would that help address the weariness and overwhelm many are experiencing?</li>
</ul>
I’ll be talking about soul care with our guest today, <a href="https://www.soulcare.com/about-us">Mindy Caliguire</a>, on the Unhurried Living podcast.
Mindy Caliguire is the co-founder and president of <a href="https://www.soulcare.com/">Soul Care</a>. In the past, she has served in executive leadership at <a href="https://www.gloo.us">Gloo</a>, and the Willow Creek Association (now the <a href="https://globalleadership.org/summit/?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw-JG5BhBZEiwAt7JR61VLfZsZfhX9R1D5VkQbbIEopHBntK8FL7PDs3RSmFD4N2FtWU9RIBoCZpYQAvD_BwE">Global Leadership Network</a>). She speaks into and advises organizations including Compassion International, ECFA, National Christian Foundation, and many churches and ministries across the US and beyond. Mindy’s books include:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Discovering-Soul-Care-Resources/dp/0830835091">Discovering Soul Care</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Friendship-Soulcare-Resources-Caliguire/dp/0830835105">Spiritual Friendship</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/STIR-Transformation-Relationships-Mindy-Caliguire/dp/0310494826">STIR</a></li>
<li>The book we’re talking about today, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ignite-Your-Soul-Exhaustion-Flourishing/dp/1641588551">Ignite Your Soul</a>.</li>
</ul>
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Connect with Alan on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanfadling/">LinkedIn</a> or learn more about <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/alan">Unhurried Living programs</a> on their website. 
Learn about <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/pace">PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care</a>
Discover more Christian podcasts at <a href="http://www.lifeaudio.com">lifeaudio.com</a> and inquire about advertising opportunities at <a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/contact-us">lifeaudio.com/contact-us</a>

315: Lighting the Path to Flourishing w/Mindy Caliguire

Adoption is often framed by happy narratives, but the reality is that many adoptees struggle with unaddressed trauma and issues of identity and belonging. Adoptees often spend the majority of their youth without the language to explore the grief related to adoption or the permission to legitimize their conflicting emotions.



Today, Gem is speaking with counselor and author Cameron Lee Small about his new book, The Adoptee’s Journey. 



You might be wondering what adoption has to do with spiritual leadership. Well, here at UL, we care very much about people and their stories. And this story is very personal to me in that I am an adoptee.



Gem is also sharing her own journey as an adoptee and giving you real time insight into my current personal process. She shares things that she's never spoken in a public setting. 



Learn more about adoption and Cameron's story:
Adoptee Consciousness Model
Harlow's Monkey // JaeRan Kim
Grace Newton // Trauma and Healing of Consciousness
Adoptive Parenting Consultation Group hosted by Cam
Schedule Cam to speak and train at your next event
Cam's main website

Connect with Cameron on Social media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/camleesmall/
Instagram: @therapyredeemed
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/therapyredeemed

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Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads

Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care

Adoption is often framed by happy narratives, but the reality is that many adoptees struggle with unaddressed trauma and issues of identity and belonging. Adoptees often spend the majority of their youth without the language to explore the grief related to adoption or the permission to legitimize their conflicting emotions. Today, Gem is speaking with counselor and author Cameron Lee Small about his new book, The Adoptee’s Journey.  You might be wondering what adoption has to do with spiritual leadership. Well, here at UL, we care very much about people and their stories. And this story is very personal to me in that I am an adoptee. Gem is also sharing her own journey as an adoptee and giving you real time insight into my current personal process. She shares things that she's never spoken in a public setting.  Learn more about adoption and Cameron's story:<ul><li><a href="https://redthreadbroken.com/2022/06/23/out-of-the-fog-and-into-consciousness-a-model-of-adoptee-awareness/" target="_blank">Adoptee Consciousness Model</a></li><li><a href="https://harlows-monkey.com/" target="_blank">Harlow's Monkey // JaeRan Kim</a></li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35221135/" target="_blank">Grace Newton // Trauma and Healing of Consciousness</a></li><li><a href="https://community-adoption-support.mailchimpsites.com/" target="_blank">Adoptive Parenting Consultation Group hosted by Cam</a></li><li><a href="https://therapyredeemed.wordpress.com/schedule-your-next-event-here/" target="_blank">Schedule Cam to speak and train at your next event</a></li><li><a href="https://therapyredeemed.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Cam's main website</a></li></ul>Connect with Cameron on Social media:<ul><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/camleesmall/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/camleesmall/</a> Instagram: @therapyredeemed Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/therapyredeemed" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/therapyredeemed</a></li></ul>_______________________________________________________________Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gemfadling/" target="_blank">Gem on Instagram</a> and learn more on the <a href="https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/c807b8df-15a1-423a-8649-9db69f7aa374/shows/2a294677-14cc-4597-8409-8efcedfed2cd/episodes/1ff79710-f260-475a-8a39-22315b98892e/www.unhurriedliving.com/gem" target="_blank">Unhurried Living website</a> and her new book, <a href="https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/c807b8df-15a1-423a-8649-9db69f7aa374/shows/2a294677-14cc-4597-8409-8efcedfed2cd/episodes/c6bd1beb-251f-42f0-92ea-21c6790a5380/www.unhurriedliving.com/holdthatthought" target="_blank">Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads</a>Learn about <a href="https://www.unhurriedliving.com/pace" target="_blank">PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care</a>

Adoption is often framed by happy narratives, but the reality is that many adoptees struggle with unaddressed trauma and issues of identity and belonging. Adoptees often spend the majority of their youth without the language to explore the grief related to adoption or the permission to legitimize their conflicting emotions.

Welcome to the Unhurried Living Podcast, where, today, Gem is talking with author Cameron Lee Small about his book, "The Adoptee's Journey's Journey, as well as sharing her own adoption journey.

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