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Succession: A Conversation With Yossi Cohen

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Yossi Cohen is the former head of the Mossad, a former national security adviser to Benjamin Netanyahu - and often talked about as a future prime minister of Israel. In a rare interview in English, he tells Yonit and Jonathan how he sees the intelligence failures that led to 7 October, his thoughts on the nature of responsibility and on the case for a Palestinian state - and how he is contemplating an entry into politics. Plus: the denialism that surrounds Hamas and sexual violence - and ceasefire talks as the clock ticks down to Ramadan.

Some listeners may find some descriptions of the violence of 7 October distressing.

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