The shift from being employed to self-employed is a unique experience that, quite simply, if you haven’t been through it’s almost impossible to explain the gut-wrenching, soul growing, soul destroying, exhilarating, terrifying feels it brings – but today’s guest really gets all sides of employment.

Her name is Ali Killaly and she’s the founder of career counselling organisation Workpants, and her story of coming to build and now scale her incredible business will leave you feeling seen and inspired for wherever you’re at with yours.

You’ll hear about:
The less than linear path to finding your Ikigai in business
Going full circle in your career path
The experience of reframing your professional identity
Developing the business you need in real time
The role your ego plays in business and how to tame it
Working through the uncomfortable yet exhilarating daily experience of building a business you’re passionate about
The value of manufacturing a catalyst to push you to take the steps you need to
What outsourcing can take away from you in the initial building phases of your business
And learning to lean into your scrappy side

Growing your own small-business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell.

We’re here for you, the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.

Connect with Ali and Workpants on IG @_workpants

Check out the Workpants Website at workpants.com.au

Listen to the Workpants Podcast wherever you pod

You can find the conversation transcript at unemployedandafraid.com.au/episodes.

And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG , Threads and LinkedIn

Join our Facebook Group

And show your support for this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod

You can reach your host on email kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au on IG on LinkedIn

or via unemployedandafraid.com.au

The shift from being employed to self-employed is a unique experience that, quite simply, if you haven’t been through it’s almost impossible to explain the gut-wrenching, soul growing, soul destroying, exhilarating, terrifying feels it brings – but today’s guest really gets all sides of employment.
Her name is Ali Killaly and she’s the founder of career counselling organisation Workpants, and her story of coming to build and now scale her incredible business will leave you feeling seen and inspired for wherever you’re at with yours.
You’ll hear about:
<ul>
<li>The less than linear path to finding your Ikigai in business</li>
<li>Going full circle in your career path</li>
<li>The experience of reframing your professional identity</li>
<li>Developing the business you need in real time</li>
<li>The role your ego plays in business and how to tame it</li>
<li>Working through the uncomfortable yet exhilarating daily experience of building a business you’re passionate about</li>
<li>The value of manufacturing a catalyst to push you to take the steps you need to</li>
<li>What outsourcing can take away from you in the initial building phases of your business</li>
<li>And learning to lean into your scrappy side</li>
</ul>
Growing your own small-business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell.
We’re here for you, the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.
Connect with Ali and Workpants on IG <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_workpants">@_workpants</a>
Check out the Workpants Website at <a href="https://www.workpants.com.au/">workpants.com.au</a>
Listen to the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3Dax1XhWB3rc8x43KO2uqp?si=468cbdcfbf0943d4">Workpants Podcast</a> wherever you pod
You can find the conversation transcript at <a href="https://www.unemployedandafraid.com.au/episodes">unemployedandafraid.com.au/episodes.</a>
And don’t forget to follow Unemployed &amp; Afraid on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unemployedandafraid/?hl=en">IG</a> , <a href="https://www.threads.net/@unemployedandafraid">Threads</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/unemployed-afraid">LinkedIn</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unemployedandafraid">Join our Facebook Group</a>
And show your support for this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod">buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod</a>
You can reach your host on email <a href="mailto:kim@unemployedandafraid.com">kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au</a> on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodsideofthebed_/?hl=en">IG</a> on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-kerton/">LinkedIn</a>
or via <a href="https://www.unemployedandafraid.com.au/">unemployedandafraid.com.au</a>

A business podcast for the brave self-employed.

Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.

We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.

Join fellow business-builder Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.

Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams. 

Access Your Podcast Strategy Session below... 

Want to secure access to a 1:1 Podcast Strategy Session with Kim Kerton, and plan your own incredible podcast for 2025? Head to goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session to book



This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod

Get in touch at unemployedandafraid.com.au to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).

Connect on the socials @unemployedandafraid on IG and @unemployedandafraidpod on TikTok

A business podcast for the brave self-employed.
Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.
We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.
Join fellow business-builder Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.
Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams. 
Access Your Podcast Strategy Session below... 
Want to secure access to a 1:1 Podcast Strategy Session with Kim Kerton, and plan your own incredible podcast for 2025? Head to <a href="https://goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session">goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session</a> to book
 
This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod">buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod</a>
Get in touch at <a href="https://www.unemployedandafraid.com.au/">unemployedandafraid.com.au</a> to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).
Connect on the socials <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unemployedandafraid/">@unemployedandafraid</a> on IG and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@unemployedandafraidpod">@unemployedandafraidpod</a> on TikTok

Unemployed & Afraid

A business podcast for the brave self-employed.

Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.

We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.

Join fellow business-builder Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.

Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams. 

Access Your Podcast Strategy Session below... 

Want to secure access to a 1:1 Podcast Strategy Session with Kim Kerton, and plan your own incredible podcast for 2025? Head to goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session to book

This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod

Get in touch at unemployedandafraid.com.au to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).

Connect on the socials @unemployedandafraid on IG and @unemployedandafraidpod on TikTok

A business podcast for the brave self-employed.
Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.
We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.
Join fellow business-builder Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.
Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams. 
Access Your Podcast Strategy Session below... 
Want to secure access to a 1:1 Podcast Strategy Session with Kim Kerton, and plan your own incredible podcast for 2025? Head to <a href="https://goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session">goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session</a> to book
This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod">buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod</a>
Get in touch at <a href="https://www.unemployedandafraid.com.au/">unemployedandafraid.com.au</a> to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).
Connect on the socials <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unemployedandafraid/">@unemployedandafraid</a> on IG and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@unemployedandafraidpod">@unemployedandafraidpod</a> on TikTok

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