Being in the business development phase, when you’re pumping out content, meeting people and having conversations just to have them is such a confusing time in business – it feels like you’re going nowhere and everywhere all at once.

The story you’re about to hear from Natalia Tapia, Co-Founder of tech platform Graduated, will give you exactly what you need to navigate your own build phase with confidence, trust and resilience.

You’ll hear about:
Reconciling with practical vs university experience
Meetings with strangers that redefine your career path
Giving your idea the space to grow
Navigating co-founder relationships
The challenge of market education when building something entirely new
Knowing when to quit your 9-5 and go all in
And the weirdness of working your guts out, solo, unnoticed through the seemingly endless building phase.

Growing a business at any phase is never easy, but it’s always worth it.

Connect with Nat on LinkedIn

Check out Graduated at graduated.io

You can find more show notes and transcripts at unemployedandafraid.com.au/episodes.

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or via unemployedandafraid.com.au

Being in the business development phase, when you’re pumping out content, meeting people and having conversations just to have them is such a confusing time in business – it feels like you’re going nowhere and everywhere all at once.
The story you’re about to hear from Natalia Tapia, Co-Founder of tech platform Graduated, will give you exactly what you need to navigate your own build phase with confidence, trust and resilience.
You’ll hear about:
<ul>
<li>Reconciling with practical vs university experience</li>
<li>Meetings with strangers that redefine your career path</li>
<li>Giving your idea the space to grow</li>
<li>Navigating co-founder relationships</li>
<li>The challenge of market education when building something entirely new</li>
<li>Knowing when to quit your 9-5 and go all in</li>
<li>And the weirdness of working your guts out, solo, unnoticed through the seemingly endless building phase.</li>
</ul>
Growing a business at any phase is never easy, but it’s always worth it.
Connect with Nat on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliatapia33/">LinkedIn</a>
Check out Graduated at <a href="https://graduated.io/">graduated.io</a>
You can find more show notes and transcripts at <a href="https://www.unemployedandafraid.com.au/episodes">unemployedandafraid.com.au/episodes.</a>
And don’t forget to follow Unemployed &amp; Afraid on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unemployedandafraid/?hl=en">IG</a> , <a href="https://www.threads.net/@unemployedandafraid">Threads</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/unemployed-afraid">LinkedIn</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unemployedandafraid">Join our Facebook Group</a>
And show your support for this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod">buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod</a>
You can reach your host on email <a href="mailto:kim@unemployedandafraid.com">kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au</a> on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodsideofthebed_/?hl=en">IG</a> on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-kerton/">LinkedIn</a>
or via <a href="https://www.unemployedandafraid.com.au/">unemployedandafraid.com.au</a>

A business podcast for the brave self-employed.

Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.

We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.

Join fellow business-builder Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.

Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams. 

Access Your Podcast Strategy Session below... 

Want to secure access to a 1:1 Podcast Strategy Session with Kim Kerton, and plan your own incredible podcast for 2025? Head to goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session to book



This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod

Get in touch at unemployedandafraid.com.au to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).

Connect on the socials @unemployedandafraid on IG and @unemployedandafraidpod on TikTok

A business podcast for the brave self-employed.
Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.
We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.
Join fellow business-builder Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.
Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams. 
Access Your Podcast Strategy Session below... 
Want to secure access to a 1:1 Podcast Strategy Session with Kim Kerton, and plan your own incredible podcast for 2025? Head to <a href="https://goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session">goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session</a> to book
 
This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod">buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod</a>
Get in touch at <a href="https://www.unemployedandafraid.com.au/">unemployedandafraid.com.au</a> to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).
Connect on the socials <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unemployedandafraid/">@unemployedandafraid</a> on IG and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@unemployedandafraidpod">@unemployedandafraidpod</a> on TikTok

Unemployed & Afraid

A business podcast for the brave self-employed.

Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.

We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.

Join fellow business-builder Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.

Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams. 

Access Your Podcast Strategy Session below... 

Want to secure access to a 1:1 Podcast Strategy Session with Kim Kerton, and plan your own incredible podcast for 2025? Head to goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session to book

This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod

Get in touch at unemployedandafraid.com.au to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).

Connect on the socials @unemployedandafraid on IG and @unemployedandafraidpod on TikTok

A business podcast for the brave self-employed.
Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.
We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.
Join fellow business-builder Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.
Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams. 
Access Your Podcast Strategy Session below... 
Want to secure access to a 1:1 Podcast Strategy Session with Kim Kerton, and plan your own incredible podcast for 2025? Head to <a href="https://goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session">goodsideofthebed.com.au/concept-creation-session</a> to book
This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod">buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod</a>
Get in touch at <a href="https://www.unemployedandafraid.com.au/">unemployedandafraid.com.au</a> to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).
Connect on the socials <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unemployedandafraid/">@unemployedandafraid</a> on IG and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@unemployedandafraidpod">@unemployedandafraidpod</a> on TikTok

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