Season 2 of Uncommon Ground opens with David Campbell, one of Australia’s most versatile performers, an actor, singer, television presenter, and proud father.

In this intimate conversation with Talal Yassine, David reflects on the complexities of identity, from a childhood raised by his grandmother in Adelaide to discovering the truth about his parents and navigating the weight of being Jimmy Barnes’ son. He speaks candidly about trauma, ADHD, and the long path to self-acceptance.

David also shares the lessons of fatherhood, why being present matters, and how to ‘break the chain’ of generational pain. From cabaret stages in New York to breakfast television at Channel 9, he opens up about the triumphs, failures, and reinventions that shaped him, and the balance between ambition, authenticity and love.

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Episode Running Order
Opening: Season 2 begins with David Campbell (00:00)
Childhood in Adelaide: heat, red brick houses and ABBA on TV (02:00)
Growing up with his grandmother and finding his name (05:00)
School years, anxiety, ADHD and music as an outlet (09:00)
Brothers, sisters and redefining family (14:00)
Discovering the Barnes side and a fractured childhood truth (18:00)
Coping with trauma, forgiveness and healing family ties (24:00)
The role of his grandmother: discipline, love and survival (29:00)
Building a relationship with his mother (33:00)
Fatherhood, breaking the chain and learning vulnerability (37:00)
From Adelaide youth theatre to Sydney stages (43:00)
Cabaret in New York, Broadway mentors and early failures (48:00)
Returning home: Shout! Sony Records and reinventing himself (53:00)
Channel 9, television, and the partnership with Sonia Kruger (57:00)
Work ethic, comparison, and “the chip on the shoulder” (1:01:00)
Fatherhood revisited: lessons, mentors, and protecting children (1:06:00)
Quickfire questions: misconceptions, guilty pleasures, advice (1:09:00)
Closing: reflections on authenticity and resilience (1:10:00)

Season 2 of Uncommon Ground opens with David Campbell, one of Australia&rsquo;s most versatile performers, an actor, singer, television presenter, and proud father.
In this intimate conversation with Talal Yassine, David reflects on the complexities of identity, from a childhood raised by his grandmother in Adelaide to discovering the truth about his parents and navigating the weight of being Jimmy Barnes&rsquo; son. He speaks candidly about trauma, ADHD, and the long path to self-acceptance.
David also shares the lessons of fatherhood, why being present matters, and how to &lsquo;break the chain&rsquo; of generational pain. From cabaret stages in New York to breakfast television at Channel 9, he opens up about the triumphs, failures, and reinventions that shaped him, and the balance between ambition, authenticity and love.
Subscribe to Uncommon Ground on your favourite podcast platform.
Episode Running Order
<ul>
<li>Opening: Season 2 begins with David Campbell (00:00)</li>
<li>Childhood in Adelaide: heat, red brick houses and ABBA on TV (02:00)</li>
<li>Growing up with his grandmother and finding his name (05:00)</li>
<li>School years, anxiety, ADHD and music as an outlet (09:00)</li>
<li>Brothers, sisters and redefining family (14:00)</li>
<li>Discovering the Barnes side and a fractured childhood truth (18:00)</li>
<li>Coping with trauma, forgiveness and healing family ties (24:00)</li>
<li>The role of his grandmother: discipline, love and survival (29:00)</li>
<li>Building a relationship with his mother (33:00)</li>
<li>Fatherhood, breaking the chain and learning vulnerability (37:00)</li>
<li>From Adelaide youth theatre to Sydney stages (43:00)</li>
<li>Cabaret in New York, Broadway mentors and early failures (48:00)</li>
<li>Returning home: Shout! Sony Records and reinventing himself (53:00)</li>
<li>Channel 9, television, and the partnership with Sonia Kruger (57:00)</li>
<li>Work ethic, comparison, and &ldquo;the chip on the shoulder&rdquo; (1:01:00)</li>
<li>Fatherhood revisited: lessons, mentors, and protecting children (1:06:00)</li>
<li>Quickfire questions: misconceptions, guilty pleasures, advice (1:09:00)</li>
<li>Closing: reflections on authenticity and resilience (1:10:00)</li>
</ul>

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.

What drives someone to speak up, stand out, and keep going when the pressure hits hard? Uncommon Ground is a monthly podcast hosted by entrepreneur and philanthropist Talal Yassine, where he sits down with high-profile Australians who aren’t afraid to challenge the status quo.

In each episode, Talal goes beyond the headlines to explore the values, convictions, and personal struggles that shape public figures. It’s not just about what they’ve done, it’s about who they are when things get difficult.

Honest, raw, and deeply human, this is Uncommon Ground. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.
What drives someone to speak up, stand out, and keep going when the pressure hits hard? Uncommon Ground is a monthly podcast hosted by entrepreneur and philanthropist Talal Yassine, where he sits down with high-profile Australians who aren&rsquo;t afraid to challenge the status quo.
In each episode, Talal goes beyond the headlines to explore the values, convictions, and personal struggles that shape public figures. It&rsquo;s not just about what they&rsquo;ve done, it&rsquo;s about who they are when things get difficult.
Honest, raw, and deeply human, this is Uncommon Ground. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.

Uncommon Ground with Talal Yassine

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.

What drives someone to speak up, stand out, and keep going when the pressure hits hard? Uncommon Ground is a fortnightly podcast hosted by entrepreneur and philanthropist Talal Yassine, where he sits down with high-profile Australians who aren’t afraid to challenge the status quo.

In each episode, Talal goes beyond the headlines to explore the values, convictions, and personal struggles that shape public figures. It’s not just about what they’ve done, it’s about who they are when things get difficult.

Honest, raw, and deeply human, this is Uncommon Ground. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.
What drives someone to speak up, stand out, and keep going when the pressure hits hard? Uncommon Ground is a fortnightly podcast hosted by entrepreneur and philanthropist Talal Yassine, where he sits down with high-profile Australians who aren&rsquo;t afraid to challenge the status quo.
In each episode, Talal goes beyond the headlines to explore the values, convictions, and personal struggles that shape public figures. It&rsquo;s not just about what they&rsquo;ve done, it&rsquo;s about who they are when things get difficult.
Honest, raw, and deeply human, this is Uncommon Ground. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.

David Campbell on identity, fatherhood and breaking the chain 

Journalist, author and academic Stan Grant joins Talal Yassine for a powerful and deeply personal conversation about identity, faith, and the cost of speaking out.

From a childhood of poverty and constant movement across rural New South Wales, to interviewing world leaders and reporting from some of the globe’s most dangerous conflict zones, Stan’s story is one of resilience, grit, and unflinching honesty. He opens up about growing up Wiradjuri, the hard love of his father, and the strength of family that carried him through homelessness and hardship.

Stan reflects on his meteoric rise through journalism, the toll of frontline reporting, and the burden of being one of Australia’s most visible Indigenous voices. He speaks candidly about racism, burnout, and his controversial departure from the ABC, but also about the things that sustain him: faith, philosophy, music, and the enduring power of love.

This episode moves between the personal and the profound, from childhood memories tied to songs on a transistor radio, to the philosophy of history and modernity, and finally his vision for a more generous Australia rooted in respect and hope.

Subscribe to Uncommon Ground on your favourite podcast platform.

Episode Running Order
Opening: The art of conversation vs. interview (00:00)
Earliest memories: music, hats and a travelling childhood (04:00)
Life on the move: cars, caravans and sawmills (09:00)
Hard love, resilience and lessons from his father (15:00)
The wider family and responsibility beyond his years (20:00)
Discovering books, philosophy and a world beyond poverty (25:00)
From mail boy to university: the turning point (32:00)
Breaking into journalism: copy boy, cadetship and the fast rise (38:00)
Reporting Canberra politics and hosting prime-time TV by 27 (45:00)
CNN years: the world stage, conflict zones and PTSD (50:00)
Returning home: ABC, Sky and disillusionment with hosting roles (58:00)
Family life: meeting Tracey, raising four children and following bliss (1:05:00)
Race, identity and the unfinished business of Australia (1:12:00)
Faith, philosophy and the last sigh of Christ (1:18:00)
Yindyamarra Trust: giving, love and building respect (1:25:00)
Quickfire round: misconceptions, guilty pleasures, advice to young Stan (1:28:00)

Journalist, author and academic Stan Grant joins Talal Yassine for a powerful and deeply personal conversation about identity, faith, and the cost of speaking out.
From a childhood of poverty and constant movement across rural New South Wales, to interviewing world leaders and reporting from some of the globe&rsquo;s most dangerous conflict zones, Stan&rsquo;s story is one of resilience, grit, and unflinching honesty. He opens up about growing up Wiradjuri, the hard love of his father, and the strength of family that carried him through homelessness and hardship.
Stan reflects on his meteoric rise through journalism, the toll of frontline reporting, and the burden of being one of Australia&rsquo;s most visible Indigenous voices. He speaks candidly about racism, burnout, and his controversial departure from the ABC, but also about the things that sustain him: faith, philosophy, music, and the enduring power of love.
This episode moves between the personal and the profound, from childhood memories tied to songs on a transistor radio, to the philosophy of history and modernity, and finally his vision for a more generous Australia rooted in respect and hope.
Subscribe to Uncommon Ground on your favourite podcast platform.
Episode Running Order
<ul>
<li>Opening: The art of conversation vs. interview (00:00)</li>
<li>Earliest memories: music, hats and a travelling childhood (04:00)</li>
<li>Life on the move: cars, caravans and sawmills (09:00)</li>
<li>Hard love, resilience and lessons from his father (15:00)</li>
<li>The wider family and responsibility beyond his years (20:00)</li>
<li>Discovering books, philosophy and a world beyond poverty (25:00)</li>
<li>From mail boy to university: the turning point (32:00)</li>
<li>Breaking into journalism: copy boy, cadetship and the fast rise (38:00)</li>
<li>Reporting Canberra politics and hosting prime-time TV by 27 (45:00)</li>
<li>CNN years: the world stage, conflict zones and PTSD (50:00)</li>
<li>Returning home: ABC, Sky and disillusionment with hosting roles (58:00)</li>
<li>Family life: meeting Tracey, raising four children and following bliss (1:05:00)</li>
<li>Race, identity and the unfinished business of Australia (1:12:00)</li>
<li>Faith, philosophy and the last sigh of Christ (1:18:00)</li>
<li>Yindyamarra Trust: giving, love and building respect (1:25:00)</li>
<li>Quickfire round: misconceptions, guilty pleasures, advice to young Stan (1:28:00)</li>
</ul>

Stan Grant on truth, faith and finding hope in a fractured world 

Cameron Kerr has spent 25 years at the helm of Australia’s Taronga Zoo, transforming it from a traditional attraction into a global conservation powerhouse. A zoologist and conservationist at heart, Cameron’s story begins in the rock pools of Collaroy and the paddocks of rural NSW, where a pet donkey and injured rabbits sparked a lifelong love of animals.

In this conversation, Cameron reflects on a career that bridges science, business and ethics. He shares candid stories, from rescuing rabbits as a boy to running one of Australia’s most complex conservation organisations. We also hear about the moral dilemmas of keeping animals in zoos and how Taronga is leading world-first efforts to save species from platypuses to corals.

Cameron also opens up about leadership, values, and resilience, including what it takes to guide a thousand-strong team through crises like COVID, and how passion, patience and persistence can drive systemic change.

Subscribe to Uncommon Ground on your favourite podcast platform.

Cameron Kerr has spent 25 years at the helm of Australia&rsquo;s Taronga Zoo, transforming it from a traditional attraction into a global conservation powerhouse. A zoologist and conservationist at heart, Cameron&rsquo;s story begins in the rock pools of Collaroy and the paddocks of rural NSW, where a pet donkey and injured rabbits sparked a lifelong love of animals.
In this conversation, Cameron reflects on a career that bridges science, business and ethics. He shares candid stories, from rescuing rabbits as a boy to running one of Australia&rsquo;s most complex conservation organisations. We also hear about the moral dilemmas of keeping animals in zoos and how Taronga is leading world-first efforts to save species from platypuses to corals.
Cameron also opens up about leadership, values, and resilience, including what it takes to guide a thousand-strong team through crises like COVID, and how passion, patience and persistence can drive systemic change.
Subscribe to Uncommon Ground on your favourite podcast platform.

Cameron Kerr on conservation, leadership and a life with animals 

Trailblazing business leader, arts patron and advocate for women in leadership, Catherine Harris joins Talal Yassine for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about business, family and purpose.

From growing up as one of ten children in a loud, loving Italian–Irish household, to co-founding Harris Farm Markets and guiding it through more than 50 years of highs, lows and reinvention, Catherine shares stories that shaped her values: integrity, fairness, and lifting others as you lead.

She reflects on resilience through tough times, including near-bankruptcy, 17% interest rates and even a mafia threat, while highlighting the lessons of transparency, courage, and compassion in business.

Beyond Harris Farm, Catherine discusses her decades of public service: leading affirmative action at a national level, serving on boards from the NRL to the National Gallery, and even representing Bhutan as Consul-General. With humour, humility, and a lifetime of experience, she shows how business, family and values can intertwine to shape modern Australia.

Subscribe to Uncommon Ground on your favourite podcast platform.

Episode Running Order
Childhood and family roots (02:00)
Her mother: Australia’s first woman on TV (07:00)
Schooling, Florence, and finding her own path (10:00)
University struggles, dyslexia and discovering commerce (14:00)
Meeting David Harris and the origins of Harris Farm (20:00)
Starting out in Villawood and early hardships (25:00)
Near-collapse, 17% interest rates and resilience (30:00)
The mafia contract and surviving the 1990s (34:00)
Lessons from 50 years in business (38:00)
Family in business: succession, mentoring, and fairness (43:00)
Raising five boys and reflections on gender equity (50:00)
Serving as Consul-General for Bhutan (56:00)
Arts, culture, rugby league and public service (1:00:00)
Quickfire questions: misconceptions, guilty pleasures, advice (1:07:00)
Closing reflections: the power of listening to stories (1:10:00)

 

Trailblazing business leader, arts patron and advocate for women in leadership, Catherine Harris joins Talal Yassine for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about business, family and purpose.
From growing up as one of ten children in a loud, loving Italian&ndash;Irish household, to co-founding Harris Farm Markets and guiding it through more than 50 years of highs, lows and reinvention, Catherine shares stories that shaped her values: integrity, fairness, and lifting others as you lead.
She reflects on resilience through tough times, including near-bankruptcy, 17% interest rates and even a mafia threat, while highlighting the lessons of transparency, courage, and compassion in business.
Beyond Harris Farm, Catherine discusses her decades of public service: leading affirmative action at a national level, serving on boards from the NRL to the National Gallery, and even representing Bhutan as Consul-General. With humour, humility, and a lifetime of experience, she shows how business, family and values can intertwine to shape modern Australia.
Subscribe to Uncommon Ground on your favourite podcast platform.
Episode Running Order
<ul>
<li>Childhood and family roots (02:00)</li>
<li>Her mother: Australia&rsquo;s first woman on TV (07:00)</li>
<li>Schooling, Florence, and finding her own path (10:00)</li>
<li>University struggles, dyslexia and discovering commerce (14:00)</li>
<li>Meeting David Harris and the origins of Harris Farm (20:00)</li>
<li>Starting out in Villawood and early hardships (25:00)</li>
<li>Near-collapse, 17% interest rates and resilience (30:00)</li>
<li>The mafia contract and surviving the 1990s (34:00)</li>
<li>Lessons from 50 years in business (38:00)</li>
<li>Family in business: succession, mentoring, and fairness (43:00)</li>
<li>Raising five boys and reflections on gender equity (50:00)</li>
<li>Serving as Consul-General for Bhutan (56:00)</li>
<li>Arts, culture, rugby league and public service (1:00:00)</li>
<li>Quickfire questions: misconceptions, guilty pleasures, advice (1:07:00)</li>
<li>Closing reflections: the power of listening to stories (1:10:00)</li>
</ul>
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