Season 2 of Uncommon Ground opens with David Campbell, one of Australia’s most versatile performers, an actor, singer, television presenter, and proud father.

In this intimate conversation with Talal Yassine, David reflects on the complexities of identity, from a childhood raised by his grandmother in Adelaide to discovering the truth about his parents and navigating the weight of being Jimmy Barnes’ son. He speaks candidly about trauma, ADHD, and the long path to self-acceptance.

David also shares the lessons of fatherhood, why being present matters, and how to ‘break the chain’ of generational pain. From cabaret stages in New York to breakfast television at Channel 9, he opens up about the triumphs, failures, and reinventions that shaped him, and the balance between ambition, authenticity and love.

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Episode Running Order
Opening: Season 2 begins with David Campbell (00:00)
Childhood in Adelaide: heat, red brick houses and ABBA on TV (02:00)
Growing up with his grandmother and finding his name (05:00)
School years, anxiety, ADHD and music as an outlet (09:00)
Brothers, sisters and redefining family (14:00)
Discovering the Barnes side and a fractured childhood truth (18:00)
Coping with trauma, forgiveness and healing family ties (24:00)
The role of his grandmother: discipline, love and survival (29:00)
Building a relationship with his mother (33:00)
Fatherhood, breaking the chain and learning vulnerability (37:00)
From Adelaide youth theatre to Sydney stages (43:00)
Cabaret in New York, Broadway mentors and early failures (48:00)
Returning home: Shout! Sony Records and reinventing himself (53:00)
Channel 9, television, and the partnership with Sonia Kruger (57:00)
Work ethic, comparison, and “the chip on the shoulder” (1:01:00)
Fatherhood revisited: lessons, mentors, and protecting children (1:06:00)
Quickfire questions: misconceptions, guilty pleasures, advice (1:09:00)
Closing: reflections on authenticity and resilience (1:10:00)

Season 2 of Uncommon Ground opens with David Campbell, one of Australia&rsquo;s most versatile performers, an actor, singer, television presenter, and proud father.
In this intimate conversation with Talal Yassine, David reflects on the complexities of identity, from a childhood raised by his grandmother in Adelaide to discovering the truth about his parents and navigating the weight of being Jimmy Barnes&rsquo; son. He speaks candidly about trauma, ADHD, and the long path to self-acceptance.
David also shares the lessons of fatherhood, why being present matters, and how to &lsquo;break the chain&rsquo; of generational pain. From cabaret stages in New York to breakfast television at Channel 9, he opens up about the triumphs, failures, and reinventions that shaped him, and the balance between ambition, authenticity and love.
Subscribe to Uncommon Ground on your favourite podcast platform.
Episode Running Order
<ul>
<li>Opening: Season 2 begins with David Campbell (00:00)</li>
<li>Childhood in Adelaide: heat, red brick houses and ABBA on TV (02:00)</li>
<li>Growing up with his grandmother and finding his name (05:00)</li>
<li>School years, anxiety, ADHD and music as an outlet (09:00)</li>
<li>Brothers, sisters and redefining family (14:00)</li>
<li>Discovering the Barnes side and a fractured childhood truth (18:00)</li>
<li>Coping with trauma, forgiveness and healing family ties (24:00)</li>
<li>The role of his grandmother: discipline, love and survival (29:00)</li>
<li>Building a relationship with his mother (33:00)</li>
<li>Fatherhood, breaking the chain and learning vulnerability (37:00)</li>
<li>From Adelaide youth theatre to Sydney stages (43:00)</li>
<li>Cabaret in New York, Broadway mentors and early failures (48:00)</li>
<li>Returning home: Shout! Sony Records and reinventing himself (53:00)</li>
<li>Channel 9, television, and the partnership with Sonia Kruger (57:00)</li>
<li>Work ethic, comparison, and &ldquo;the chip on the shoulder&rdquo; (1:01:00)</li>
<li>Fatherhood revisited: lessons, mentors, and protecting children (1:06:00)</li>
<li>Quickfire questions: misconceptions, guilty pleasures, advice (1:09:00)</li>
<li>Closing: reflections on authenticity and resilience (1:10:00)</li>
</ul>

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.

What drives someone to speak up, stand out, and keep going when the pressure hits hard? Uncommon Ground is a monthly podcast hosted by entrepreneur and philanthropist Talal Yassine, where he sits down with high-profile Australians who aren’t afraid to challenge the status quo.

In each episode, Talal goes beyond the headlines to explore the values, convictions, and personal struggles that shape public figures. It’s not just about what they’ve done, it’s about who they are when things get difficult.

Honest, raw, and deeply human, this is Uncommon Ground. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.
What drives someone to speak up, stand out, and keep going when the pressure hits hard? Uncommon Ground is a monthly podcast hosted by entrepreneur and philanthropist Talal Yassine, where he sits down with high-profile Australians who aren&rsquo;t afraid to challenge the status quo.
In each episode, Talal goes beyond the headlines to explore the values, convictions, and personal struggles that shape public figures. It&rsquo;s not just about what they&rsquo;ve done, it&rsquo;s about who they are when things get difficult.
Honest, raw, and deeply human, this is Uncommon Ground. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.

Uncommon Ground with Talal Yassine

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.

What drives someone to speak up, stand out, and keep going when the pressure hits hard? Uncommon Ground is a fortnightly podcast hosted by entrepreneur and philanthropist Talal Yassine, where he sits down with high-profile Australians who aren’t afraid to challenge the status quo.

In each episode, Talal goes beyond the headlines to explore the values, convictions, and personal struggles that shape public figures. It’s not just about what they’ve done, it’s about who they are when things get difficult.

Honest, raw, and deeply human, this is Uncommon Ground. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.

Real leaders. Real conversations. Real opinions.
What drives someone to speak up, stand out, and keep going when the pressure hits hard? Uncommon Ground is a fortnightly podcast hosted by entrepreneur and philanthropist Talal Yassine, where he sits down with high-profile Australians who aren&rsquo;t afraid to challenge the status quo.
In each episode, Talal goes beyond the headlines to explore the values, convictions, and personal struggles that shape public figures. It&rsquo;s not just about what they&rsquo;ve done, it&rsquo;s about who they are when things get difficult.
Honest, raw, and deeply human, this is Uncommon Ground. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.

David Campbell on identity, fatherhood and breaking the chain 

In this episode of Uncommon Ground, Talal Yassine sits down with Andrew Robb, former Trade and Investment Minister and one of the most influential political strategists of his generation for a rare and deeply personal conversation.

Andrew reflects on his journey from a childhood on dairy farms as one of nine children, to helping deregulate Australia’s economy and negotiating major trade deals across Asia. He also speaks candidly about living with a daily bipolar condition he hid for decades, explaining how adrenaline, crisis and high-pressure roles became his coping mechanism.

From the “unlosable” 1993 election and the Hawke–Keating economic reforms, to multiculturalism, controversy over his post-politics China work, and the emerging promise of psychedelics for mental health, Andrew offers an unfiltered look at leadership as it’s lived, not performed.

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Episode Running Order
Intro — who is Andrew Robb & why this story matters (00:00)
Childhood on sheep & dairy farms, first memories (01:07)
One of nine kids: big family, responsibility & a happy farm life (02:39)
Parents’ sacrifice & the family’s deep commitment to education (06:03)
Moving to Melbourne, migrant suburb life & “shh, your father’s asleep” (09:01)
Faith, family tree & a 97-year-old mother with 90+ descendants (11:04)
The first signs of mental illness: violent teachers, fear & Year 7–8 trauma (13:42)
Daily bipolar: waking depressed, “not a morning person” and acting through it (16:24)
Discovering adrenaline as a coping mechanism & thriving in crises (18:36)
The fork in the road: turning down Harvard for the National Farmers Federation (20:00)
Deregulating Australia: floating the dollar, free trade & dismantling old systems (22:50)
From NFF to federal director: class, power and “knowing your place” (26:50)
The Hewson years: Fightback!, the “800-page political suicide note” & the unlosable election (36:31)
Hawke, Keating, Howard & Costello — how tension at the top can still serve the country (43:05)
Life after the machine: Packer years, big data & building a marketing powerhouse (44:33)
Inside the 1996 campaign: targeting 33 marginals, data, ads & swing voters (47:03)
Immigration & multicultural affairs: detention centres and what loyalty really looks like (50:36)
Loving two countries: Italians, Indians at the MCG & Chinese-Australian identity (53:09)
English tests, women’s independence & stopping grandmothers being locked out of family life (57:26)
Returning to mental health: mornings of sadness, walking hard and five pills a day (01:00:15)
Why psychedelics might change everything for PTSD & depression (01:06:44)
The China controversy: Darwin Port myths, post-politics work & being labelled “treasonous” (01:10:17)
Horses, polocrosse & a final reflection on guilt, family and legacy (01:15:57)
Closing thoughts & Uncommon Ground sign-off (01:17:05)

In this episode of Uncommon Ground, Talal Yassine sits down with Andrew Robb, former Trade and Investment Minister and one of the most influential political strategists of his generation for a rare and deeply personal conversation.
Andrew reflects on his journey from a childhood on dairy farms as one of nine children, to helping deregulate Australia&rsquo;s economy and negotiating major trade deals across Asia. He also speaks candidly about living with a daily bipolar condition he hid for decades, explaining how adrenaline, crisis and high-pressure roles became his coping mechanism.
From the &ldquo;unlosable&rdquo; 1993 election and the Hawke&ndash;Keating economic reforms, to multiculturalism, controversy over his post-politics China work, and the emerging promise of psychedelics for mental health, Andrew offers an unfiltered look at leadership as it&rsquo;s lived, not performed.
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Episode Running Order
<ul>
<li>Intro &mdash; who is Andrew Robb &amp; why this story matters (00:00)</li>
<li>Childhood on sheep &amp; dairy farms, first memories (01:07)</li>
<li>One of nine kids: big family, responsibility &amp; a happy farm life (02:39)</li>
<li>Parents&rsquo; sacrifice &amp; the family&rsquo;s deep commitment to education (06:03)</li>
<li>Moving to Melbourne, migrant suburb life &amp; &ldquo;shh, your father&rsquo;s asleep&rdquo; (09:01)</li>
<li>Faith, family tree &amp; a 97-year-old mother with 90+ descendants (11:04)</li>
<li>The first signs of mental illness: violent teachers, fear &amp; Year 7&ndash;8 trauma (13:42)</li>
<li>Daily bipolar: waking depressed, &ldquo;not a morning person&rdquo; and acting through it (16:24)</li>
<li>Discovering adrenaline as a coping mechanism &amp; thriving in crises (18:36)</li>
<li>The fork in the road: turning down Harvard for the National Farmers Federation (20:00)</li>
<li>Deregulating Australia: floating the dollar, free trade &amp; dismantling old systems (22:50)</li>
<li>From NFF to federal director: class, power and &ldquo;knowing your place&rdquo; (26:50)</li>
<li>The Hewson years: Fightback!, the &ldquo;800-page political suicide note&rdquo; &amp; the unlosable election (36:31)</li>
<li>Hawke, Keating, Howard &amp; Costello &mdash; how tension at the top can still serve the country (43:05)</li>
<li>Life after the machine: Packer years, big data &amp; building a marketing powerhouse (44:33)</li>
<li>Inside the 1996 campaign: targeting 33 marginals, data, ads &amp; swing voters (47:03)</li>
<li>Immigration &amp; multicultural affairs: detention centres and what loyalty really looks like (50:36)</li>
<li>Loving two countries: Italians, Indians at the MCG &amp; Chinese-Australian identity (53:09)</li>
<li>English tests, women&rsquo;s independence &amp; stopping grandmothers being locked out of family life (57:26)</li>
<li>Returning to mental health: mornings of sadness, walking hard and five pills a day (01:00:15)</li>
<li>Why psychedelics might change everything for PTSD &amp; depression (01:06:44)</li>
<li>The China controversy: Darwin Port myths, post-politics work &amp; being labelled &ldquo;treasonous&rdquo; (01:10:17)</li>
<li>Horses, polocrosse &amp; a final reflection on guilt, family and legacy (01:15:57)</li>
<li>Closing thoughts &amp; Uncommon Ground sign-off (01:17:05)</li>
</ul>

Andrew Robb on dairy farms, trade deals and daily bipolar 

In this episode of Uncommon Ground, Talal sits down with OzHarvest Founder and social entrepreneur Ronni Kahn to explore the personal journey behind one of Australia’s most impactful purpose-led organisations.

From growing up in apartheid-era South Africa to living on a kibbutz in Israel, Ronni reflects on the formative experiences that shaped her understanding of inequality, community and responsibility. She shares how a successful events business in Sydney ultimately led to a life-changing moment, witnessing thousands of kilograms of perfectly good food being thrown away, and the decision to redirect her life toward rescuing surplus food to feed those in need.

Ronni discusses the risks of walking away from commercial success, the courage required to challenge entrenched systems, and how OzHarvest has grown from a simple act of giving into a national movement spanning food rescue, education and social innovation.

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Episode Running Order
Intro: Ronni Kahn, OzHarvest and the fight against food waste (00:03)
• First memories: childhood in Johannesburg with two older sisters (01:29)
• Her father’s accident and the lesson of resilience (03:30)
• Growing up during apartheid and witnessing inequality (06:50)
• Family values, activism and early exposure to social justice (08:14)
• Jewish identity, youth movements and community discipline (11:06)
• Schooling at King David and living in a liberal bubble (11:45)
• The impact of losing “Flory” — her childhood carer (17:25)
• Leaving South Africa at 17 to study in Israel (18:48)
• Culture shock, independence and life on a kibbutz (19:15)
• 10 years in a socialist commune: values vs individuality (21:23)
• Moving to Haifa and building a successful florist business (26:52)
• Political changes in Israel and deciding to leave (28:22)
• Choosing Australia: familiarity without overt apartheid (29:13)
• Starting over with $10,000 and building an events company (30:21)
• The Star City pitch and scaling a creative business (31:34)
• The moment that changed everything: thousands of kilos of wasted food (32:44)
• Midnight at Matthew Talbot Hostel — the OzHarvest spark (33:10)
• Closing the events business to pursue purpose full-time (34:24)
• Risk, naivety and the entrepreneurial leap of faith (37:02)
• OzHarvest today: beyond food rescue to education (38:36)
• Feast, NEST and Nourish — empowering the next generation (39:44)
• OzHarvest Ventures: social enterprise in action (42:22)
• Conscious Drink & partnering with Indigenous business (43:47)
• Founder to CEO transition and scaling impact (45:21)
• The Hunger Solutions Lab and ending hunger in Australia (46:39)
• Quickfire: misconceptions, essentials and advice to her younger self (48:03)
• The conversation that shaped her purpose: “go out and feed people” (49:11)
• Closing reflections & outro (49:44)

In this episode of Uncommon Ground, Talal sits down with OzHarvest Founder and social entrepreneur Ronni Kahn to explore the personal journey behind one of Australia&rsquo;s most impactful purpose-led organisations.
From growing up in apartheid-era South Africa to living on a kibbutz in Israel, Ronni reflects on the formative experiences that shaped her understanding of inequality, community and responsibility. She shares how a successful events business in Sydney ultimately led to a life-changing moment, witnessing thousands of kilograms of perfectly good food being thrown away, and the decision to redirect her life toward rescuing surplus food to feed those in need.
Ronni discusses the risks of walking away from commercial success, the courage required to challenge entrenched systems, and how OzHarvest has grown from a simple act of giving into a national movement spanning food rescue, education and social innovation.
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Episode Running Order
<ul>
<li>Intro: Ronni Kahn, OzHarvest and the fight against food waste (00:03) &bull; First memories: childhood in Johannesburg with two older sisters (01:29) &bull; Her father&rsquo;s accident and the lesson of resilience (03:30) &bull; Growing up during apartheid and witnessing inequality (06:50) &bull; Family values, activism and early exposure to social justice (08:14) &bull; Jewish identity, youth movements and community discipline (11:06) &bull; Schooling at King David and living in a liberal bubble (11:45) &bull; The impact of losing &ldquo;Flory&rdquo; &mdash; her childhood carer (17:25) &bull; Leaving South Africa at 17 to study in Israel (18:48) &bull; Culture shock, independence and life on a kibbutz (19:15) &bull; 10 years in a socialist commune: values vs individuality (21:23) &bull; Moving to Haifa and building a successful florist business (26:52) &bull; Political changes in Israel and deciding to leave (28:22) &bull; Choosing Australia: familiarity without overt apartheid (29:13) &bull; Starting over with $10,000 and building an events company (30:21) &bull; The Star City pitch and scaling a creative business (31:34) &bull; The moment that changed everything: thousands of kilos of wasted food (32:44) &bull; Midnight at Matthew Talbot Hostel &mdash; the OzHarvest spark (33:10) &bull; Closing the events business to pursue purpose full-time (34:24) &bull; Risk, naivety and the entrepreneurial leap of faith (37:02) &bull; OzHarvest today: beyond food rescue to education (38:36) &bull; Feast, NEST and Nourish &mdash; empowering the next generation (39:44) &bull; OzHarvest Ventures: social enterprise in action (42:22) &bull; Conscious Drink &amp; partnering with Indigenous business (43:47) &bull; Founder to CEO transition and scaling impact (45:21) &bull; The Hunger Solutions Lab and ending hunger in Australia (46:39) &bull; Quickfire: misconceptions, essentials and advice to her younger self (48:03) &bull; The conversation that shaped her purpose: &ldquo;go out and feed people&rdquo; (49:11) &bull; Closing reflections &amp; outro (49:44) </li>
</ul>

Ronni Kahn on OzHarvest, food waste and ending hunger  

From homelessness to hope, from law school dropout to CEO of a purpose-driven disability services organisation, this is the extraordinary journey of Yasser Zaki, Global CEO of TLC Disability Services.

In this powerful episode of Uncommon Ground, hosted by Professor Talal Yassine, Yasser opens up about his early life in Egypt, migrating alone to Australia, and experiencing homelessness at just 24. But it's what came after, a life-changing encounter with a stranger on a train, and a shift from corporate sales into disability support, that shaped his purpose-led path.

From building a company with just $500 and no network, to leading one of Australia's most innovative NDIS service providers, Yasser shares the lessons of leadership, empathy, and why “a ship without goodness sinks.”

Don’t miss this inspiring conversation about resilience, service, and creating real change in vulnerable communities.

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Episode Running Order
Intro — who is Yasser Zaki and why his story matters (00:00)
Childhood in Egypt & early memories of injustice and speaking up (01:05)
Family life: a judge for a father, a lawyer for a mother & private-school years (03:14)
Choosing law… failing… and being forced into engineering (05:21)
Studying in Dubai at University of Wollongong (06:02)
Opening a tourism business in Egypt while studying (07:53)
Visiting Australia for the first time — and choosing it as a new life path (09:07)
Arriving in Australia alone at 24 — and three weeks of homelessness (11:17)
Getting his first job at Nick Scali — the “bad Christian” moment (12:10)
Sales hustles, manipulation from colleagues & becoming #1 in the company (18:40)
Discovering the power of helping others — meeting Margaret on the train (24:13)
Leaving corporate life to become a disability support worker (26:24)
“A ship without goodness sinks” — the advice that changed everything (28:59)
Studying hard: diplomas, a master’s, a PhD — building real expertise (29:56)
Working in government (DAC / ATAC) & early NDIS transition years (32:13)
Leaving government for the private sector & founding Tender Loving Care (36:39)
Building TLC with $500, networks and trust — leading by agility (41:42)
What TLC actually does: jobs, education, health & housing (44:07)
The NDIS: what works, what doesn’t & why it matters (45:25)
The coffee company — employing people with disability in a coffee culture (48:05)
The TLC Foundation: endowment model & COVID pivot to food manufacturing (50:11)
Lessons from the journey: resilience, purpose & “one hand can’t clap” (54:44)
Leadership philosophy: hiring great people and letting them lead (57:44)
Quick-fire questions: misconceptions, guilty pleasures & role models (1:00:47)
Closing reflections & outro (1:04:08)

From homelessness to hope, from law school dropout to CEO of a purpose-driven disability services organisation, this is the extraordinary journey of Yasser Zaki, Global CEO of TLC Disability Services.
In this powerful episode of Uncommon Ground, hosted by Professor Talal Yassine, Yasser opens up about his early life in Egypt, migrating alone to Australia, and experiencing homelessness at just 24. But it's what came after, a life-changing encounter with a stranger on a train, and a shift from corporate sales into disability support, that shaped his purpose-led path.
From building a company with just $500 and no network, to leading one of Australia's most innovative NDIS service providers, Yasser shares the lessons of leadership, empathy, and why &ldquo;a ship without goodness sinks.&rdquo;
Don&rsquo;t miss this inspiring conversation about resilience, service, and creating real change in vulnerable communities.
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Episode Running Order
<ul>
<li>Intro &mdash; who is Yasser Zaki and why his story matters (00:00)</li>
<li>Childhood in Egypt &amp; early memories of injustice and speaking up (01:05)</li>
<li>Family life: a judge for a father, a lawyer for a mother &amp; private-school years (03:14)</li>
<li>Choosing law&hellip; failing&hellip; and being forced into engineering (05:21)</li>
<li>Studying in Dubai at University of Wollongong (06:02)</li>
<li>Opening a tourism business in Egypt while studying (07:53)</li>
<li>Visiting Australia for the first time &mdash; and choosing it as a new life path (09:07)</li>
<li>Arriving in Australia alone at 24 &mdash; and three weeks of homelessness (11:17)</li>
<li>Getting his first job at Nick Scali &mdash; the &ldquo;bad Christian&rdquo; moment (12:10)</li>
<li>Sales hustles, manipulation from colleagues &amp; becoming #1 in the company (18:40)</li>
<li>Discovering the power of helping others &mdash; meeting Margaret on the train (24:13)</li>
<li>Leaving corporate life to become a disability support worker (26:24)</li>
<li>&ldquo;A ship without goodness sinks&rdquo; &mdash; the advice that changed everything (28:59)</li>
<li>Studying hard: diplomas, a master&rsquo;s, a PhD &mdash; building real expertise (29:56)</li>
<li>Working in government (DAC / ATAC) &amp; early NDIS transition years (32:13)</li>
<li>Leaving government for the private sector &amp; founding Tender Loving Care (36:39)</li>
<li>Building TLC with $500, networks and trust &mdash; leading by agility (41:42)</li>
<li>What TLC actually does: jobs, education, health &amp; housing (44:07)</li>
<li>The NDIS: what works, what doesn&rsquo;t &amp; why it matters (45:25)</li>
<li>The coffee company &mdash; employing people with disability in a coffee culture (48:05)</li>
<li>The TLC Foundation: endowment model &amp; COVID pivot to food manufacturing (50:11)</li>
<li>Lessons from the journey: resilience, purpose &amp; &ldquo;one hand can&rsquo;t clap&rdquo; (54:44)</li>
<li>Leadership philosophy: hiring great people and letting them lead (57:44)</li>
<li>Quick-fire questions: misconceptions, guilty pleasures &amp; role models (1:00:47)</li>
<li>Closing reflections &amp; outro (1:04:08)</li>
</ul>

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