



Sarah Personette on Leading with Balance, Reframing Imposter Syndrome, and Building Media's Future
At seven years old, Sarah Personette told a stranger she wanted to be a CEO. She spent the next three decades making it happen. Days after Elon Musk closed his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter, she resigned — walking away from a role she'd spent four years building, and stock she hadn't fully ve…

Jim McCann on His First Flower Shop, 1-800-Flowers, and Firing Himself
Everything changes - except your brand and your story. Fifty years after buying his first flower shop, Jim McCann did something almost no founder does voluntarily: he fired himself. In this episode of Unbossing, hosts Rishad Tobaccowala and Drew Ianni talk with Jim McCann - founder and Executive …

David Kenny on Leading Through Uncertainty, Managing vs. Governance, and Why Curiosity Beats Expertise
What do you hold onto when almost everything is changing? David Kenny — co-founder of Digitas, former CEO of Nielsen, and one of the most sought-after board members in tech and media — has a simple answer: find your true north and don't deviate from it. In this episode of Unbossing, hosts Rishad T…

Jim Lesser on Craft, Taste and Going From Fun Uncle to the Responsible Parent
Jim Lesser started his career as a receptionist at a New York ad agency. His last role in that same industry was CEO of BBDO San Francisco — one of the few creative directors in advertising to ever make that leap. Now, as Chief Brand Officer at ServiceNow, he's doing something nobody expected: turn…

Tariq Hassan on Fear, Failure, and Brand Role in Culture
What if the fear of failure is the biggest thing standing between your team and greatness? Tariq Hassan — former CMO and Chief Customer Experience Officer of McDonald's and former CMO of Petco — has spent his career contemplating this question. In this episode of “Unbossing,” hosts Rishad Tobaccow…

Reed Hastings on Unlearning Leadership: From Netflix to the Mountain
Reed Hastings built Netflix from a DVD-by-mail startup into a global entertainment empire — and then did something most founders never do: he walked away. In this first episode of Unbossing, hosts Rishad Tobaccowala and Drew Ianni sit down with Reed for a candid conversation about the leadership pr…

Unbossing ... Coming Soon!
Hosts Rishad Tobaccowala and Drew Ianni are reinventing leadership in chaotic times and will feature conversations with the most fearless leaders in business and tech about what they’ve had to unlearn to succeed again in a world where the future no longer fits old rules.