Liz and Michelle are joined by singer, actor, television personality and Eurovision host Claire Sweeney. They chat about Claire’s upcoming role in Coronation Street and of course all things Eurovision including revealing what the ‘alternative scouse commentary is all about and why they think this year the UK might win!

KEY TAKEAWAYS 
There have been some great acts in Eurovision across the years who remain well known today, Cliff Richard, Sandy Shaw and Lulu to name a few!
Eurovision being hosted in the UK this year means a lot more of us will probably be watching, and reminiscing, over past years of the programme and what it meant to us.
Liverpool is the perfect city to host Eurovision, the birthplace of so many great musical acts and a real music hub.
There has been a search to find ‘the voice of Liverpool’ to co-host alongside Claire and she couldn’t be more excited by who has been chosen, a man named Paul Quinn with an encyclopaedic knowledge of Eurovision!
If you want to hear the alternative scouse commentary to Eurovision you just have to press the red button to hear Claire and Paul, you can also tune into Radio Merseyside.
Claire is everywhere at the moment because of Eurovision as well as, after manifesting for it for 15 years, a role on Coronation Street! Claire will be playing Tyrone’s mum and will be appearing on screens in June.
Singing was Claire’s first love and this is something she shares with her 8-year-old son Jaxon.
The UK hasn’t won Eurovision for over 25 years, Liz, Michelle and Claire think this year could well be the year!

BEST MOMENTS 
“It’s fun to reminisce…it was such a part of our childhood I think”
“It’s lovely that the UK has stepped up and it’s going to be in Liverpool the home of such incredible music acts”
“Will we need an interpreter, will there be captions along the bottom?”
“I think we’re going to have a lot of ex-Eurovision artists turning up and in the vicinity” 
“In 1974 the UK didn’t give any points to ABBA, isn’t that shocking when they won!”

If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at www.twowomenchatting.com.

EPISODE RESOURCES 
https://twitter.com/clairesweeney

ABOUT THE HOSTS
Liz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.
Lizcopping@outlook.com Insta @lizcoppingtwc
Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!
michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc

CONTACT METHOD
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Liz and Michelle are joined by singer, actor, television personality and Eurovision host Claire Sweeney. They chat about Claire’s upcoming role in Coronation Street and of course all things Eurovision including revealing what the ‘alternative scouse commentary is all about and why they think this year the UK might win!
KEY TAKEAWAYS 
<ul>
<li>There have been some great acts in Eurovision across the years who remain well known today, Cliff Richard, Sandy Shaw and Lulu to name a few!</li>
<li>Eurovision being hosted in the UK this year means a lot more of us will probably be watching, and reminiscing, over past years of the programme and what it meant to us.</li>
<li>Liverpool is the perfect city to host Eurovision, the birthplace of so many great musical acts and a real music hub.</li>
<li>There has been a search to find ‘the voice of Liverpool’ to co-host alongside Claire and she couldn’t be more excited by who has been chosen, a man named Paul Quinn with an encyclopaedic knowledge of Eurovision!</li>
<li>If you want to hear the alternative scouse commentary to Eurovision you just have to press the red button to hear Claire and Paul, you can also tune into Radio Merseyside.</li>
<li>Claire is everywhere at the moment because of Eurovision as well as, after manifesting for it for 15 years, a role on Coronation Street! Claire will be playing Tyrone’s mum and will be appearing on screens in June.</li>
<li>Singing was Claire’s first love and this is something she shares with her 8-year-old son Jaxon.</li>
<li>The UK hasn’t won Eurovision for over 25 years, Liz, Michelle and Claire think this year could well be the year!</li>
</ul>
BEST MOMENTS  “It’s fun to reminisce…it was such a part of our childhood I think” “It’s lovely that the UK has stepped up and it’s going to be in Liverpool the home of such incredible music acts” “Will we need an interpreter, will there be captions along the bottom?” “I think we’re going to have a lot of ex-Eurovision artists turning up and in the vicinity” “In 1974 the UK didn’t give any points to ABBA, isn’t that shocking when they won!”
If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at <a href="http://www.twowomenchatting.com/">www.twowomenchatting.com</a>.
EPISODE RESOURCES <a href="https://twitter.com/clairesweeney">https://twitter.com/clairesweeney</a>
ABOUT THE HOSTS Liz Copping is a networking pro &amp; event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast. <a href="mailto:Lizcopping@outlook.com">Lizcopping@outlook.com</a> Insta @lizcoppingtwc Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting! <a href="mailto:michelleford1000@gmail.com">michelle@twowomenchatting.com</a> Insta @michellefordtwc
CONTACT METHOD
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Join Liz and Michelle for chats and a few giggles on our weekly entertainment show for empty nesters and midlife women.  Chatting with celebrity guests and experts, we discuss health, wealth, topical issues, media, relationships, careers and basically anything we find interesting!

Accompanied by a ‘midlife library’ full of great resources, blogs, listener offers and trusted partners on our website www.twowomenchatting.com

Contact us with ideas, comments, marketing and collaboration opportunities at twowomenchatting@gmail.com

Please rate, review and share our show with friends!

Join Liz and Michelle for chats and a few giggles on our weekly entertainment show for empty nesters and midlife women.  Chatting with celebrity guests and experts, we discuss health, wealth, topical issues, media, relationships, careers and basically anything we find interesting!
Accompanied by a ‘midlife library’ full of great resources, blogs, listener offers and trusted partners on our website <a href="http://www.twowomenchatting.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.twowomenchatting.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1693328167294000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1h2pA7zlMZgKhE2_R4JDG9">www.twowomenchatting.com</a>
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Please rate, review and share our show with friends!

Two Women Chatting

Claire Sweeney | Eurovision

Liz and Michelle chat with former Loose Women host Andrea McLean about embracing change in midlife including why Andrea left her TV career to start help empowering women as a life coach. Andrea also talks about menopause, rebuilding yourself and dealing with loneliness head-on through her platform 'This Girl is On Fire'. Andrea offers wisdom on finding your voice, standing in your power and being open to doing things differently in midlife. Her inspiring story proves it's never too late to rediscover what makes you feel alive!

KEY TAKEAWAYS
Andrea explains how writing "what if it goes right" lists can reframe worrying about change into positive visualisation.
She recommends making problems feel smaller through techniques like imagining the issue shrinking while you grow bigger to gain control over overwhelming emotions.
Andrea describes building a "blueprint for failure" flowchart to prepare solutions in case plans go awry when making a big life change.
She emphasises the power of saying "no" more in midlife to stop pleasing others and prioritise yourself.
Andrea shares how joining her Facebook community helps women open up about loneliness in a safe, supportive space.
She believes listening to and managing your inner critic is key to overcoming habitual people-pleasing and using your voice.
Andrea explains her concept of social media being like your kitchen - you wouldn't tolerate rudeness there, so block trolls to curate a positive space.

BEST MOMENTS 

"As you imagine them getting smaller, something really funny happens. And the smaller someone gets, the squeakier their voice becomes."

"No is a complete sentence. And the first time I heard that,  I was mind blown because I was, I'm in my fifties."

"I realised, I'm now the same age as my dad was when I was scared to say no to him. I'm now middle-aged and I can say no to myself if I want to."

"I want it to be in a safe space where people can actually learn and benefit from it rather than kind of showing off about what I'm doing."

If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic atwww.twowomenchatting.com.

EPISODE RESOURCES

https://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Girl-Fire-Thrive-BESTSELLER/dp/1788175123

https://andreamclean.com

ABOUT THE HOST
Liz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.
Liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwc
Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!
Michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc

CONTACT METHOD
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https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo
https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting

Liz and Michelle chat with former Loose Women host Andrea McLean about embracing change in midlife including why Andrea left her TV career to start help empowering women as a life coach. Andrea also talks about menopause, rebuilding yourself and dealing with loneliness head-on through her platform 'This Girl is On Fire'. Andrea offers wisdom on finding your voice, standing in your power and being open to doing things differently in midlife. Her inspiring story proves it's never too late to rediscover what makes you feel alive!
KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li>Andrea explains how writing "what if it goes right" lists can reframe worrying about change into positive visualisation.</li>
<li>She recommends making problems feel smaller through techniques like imagining the issue shrinking while you grow bigger to gain control over overwhelming emotions.</li>
<li>Andrea describes building a "blueprint for failure" flowchart to prepare solutions in case plans go awry when making a big life change.</li>
<li>She emphasises the power of saying "no" more in midlife to stop pleasing others and prioritise yourself.</li>
<li>Andrea shares how joining her Facebook community helps women open up about loneliness in a safe, supportive space.</li>
<li>She believes listening to and managing your inner critic is key to overcoming habitual people-pleasing and using your voice.</li>
<li>Andrea explains her concept of social media being like your kitchen - you wouldn't tolerate rudeness there, so block trolls to curate a positive space.</li>
</ul>
BEST MOMENTS 
"As you imagine them getting smaller, something really funny happens. And the smaller someone gets, the squeakier their voice becomes." 
"No is a complete sentence. And the first time I heard that,  I was mind blown because I was, I'm in my fifties."
"I realised, I'm now the same age as my dad was when I was scared to say no to him. I'm now middle-aged and I can say no to myself if I want to."
"I want it to be in a safe space where people can actually learn and benefit from it rather than kind of showing off about what I'm doing."
If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at <a href="http://www.twowomenchatting.com/">www.twowomenchatting.com</a>.
EPISODE RESOURCES 
<a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Girl-Fire-Thrive-BESTSELLER/dp/1788175123">https://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Girl-Fire-Thrive-BESTSELLER/dp/1788175123</a>
<a href="https://andreamclean.com">https://andreamclean.com</a>
ABOUT THE HOST Liz Copping is a networking pro &amp; event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast. <a href="mailto:Lizcopping@outlook.com">Liz@twowomenchatting.com</a> Insta @lizcoppingtwc Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting! <a href="mailto:michelleford1000@gmail.com">Michelle@twowomenchatting.com</a> Insta @michellefordtwc
CONTACT METHOD
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<li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/">https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/</a></li>
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</ul>

Andrea McLean | Loneliness and Reinvention in Midlife

Liz and Michelle chat to tv presenter and author Louise Minchin about dealing with empty nest syndrome. Louise shares her own emotional journey as both her daughters left home for university, including the grief she felt at their absence. She explains how she coped by filling her time with new challenges, becoming an endurance athlete and author. Louise talks about pushing herself out of her comfort zone by swimming through shark infested waters to Alcatraz, ice diving, and other adventures with ordinary women doing extraordinary things that she chronicles in her book Fearless. She shares the importance of celebrating what your body can do, not how it looks. Louise offers inspiration on how to be fearless in trying new things and reinventing yourself in midlife after your kids leave home.

KEY TAKEAWAYS
Louise was unprepared for the grief and loss she felt when her daughters first left home for university.
She describes it as a rollercoaster - you're no longer in control as a parent when they choose to come back.
Louise advises allowing yourself to feel sadness, but also filling your time with new challenges and adventures.
She pushed herself by training for triathlons, swimming to Alcatraz, and writing two books, including Fearless.
A key message is to celebrate what your body can do, not focus on how it looks.
Louise reinvented her career, now calling herself a writer - it's inspiring to pivot even later in life.
Her advice is to set goals, take small steps out of your comfort zone, and not let fear of failure hold you back.

BEST MOMENTS 

"I was really... extraordinarily unprepared for her leaving home."

"You've got to go with a different kind of rollercoaster. One where you are not in control as a parent anymore."

"I'm proud of what my body can do, not about what it looks like."

"I walked in going, I'm a writer. And that's so exciting."

"Don't be afraid to fall flat on your face."

If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic atwww.twowomenchatting.com.

EPISODE RESOURCES

ABOUT THE HOST
Liz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.
Liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwc
Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!
michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc

CONTACT METHOD
https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/
https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo
https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting

Liz and Michelle chat to tv presenter and author Louise Minchin about dealing with empty nest syndrome. Louise shares her own emotional journey as both her daughters left home for university, including the grief she felt at their absence. She explains how she coped by filling her time with new challenges, becoming an endurance athlete and author. Louise talks about pushing herself out of her comfort zone by swimming through shark infested waters to Alcatraz, ice diving, and other adventures with ordinary women doing extraordinary things that she chronicles in her book Fearless. She shares the importance of celebrating what your body can do, not how it looks. Louise offers inspiration on how to be fearless in trying new things and reinventing yourself in midlife after your kids leave home. 
KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li>Louise was unprepared for the grief and loss she felt when her daughters first left home for university.</li>
<li>She describes it as a rollercoaster - you're no longer in control as a parent when they choose to come back.</li>
<li>Louise advises allowing yourself to feel sadness, but also filling your time with new challenges and adventures.</li>
<li>She pushed herself by training for triathlons, swimming to Alcatraz, and writing two books, including Fearless.</li>
<li>A key message is to celebrate what your body can do, not focus on how it looks.</li>
<li>Louise reinvented her career, now calling herself a writer - it's inspiring to pivot even later in life.</li>
<li>Her advice is to set goals, take small steps out of your comfort zone, and not let fear of failure hold you back.</li>
</ul>
BEST MOMENTS 
"I was really... extraordinarily unprepared for her leaving home."
"You've got to go with a different kind of rollercoaster. One where you are not in control as a parent anymore."
"I'm proud of what my body can do, not about what it looks like."
"I walked in going, I'm a writer. And that's so exciting."
"Don't be afraid to fall flat on your face."
If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at <a href="http://www.twowomenchatting.com/">www.twowomenchatting.com</a>.
EPISODE RESOURCES 
ABOUT THE HOST Liz Copping is a networking pro &amp; event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast. <a href="mailto:Lizcopping@outlook.com">Liz@twowomenchatting.com</a> Insta @lizcoppingtwc Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting! <a href="mailto:michelleford1000@gmail.com">michelle@twowomenchatting.com</a> Insta @michellefordtwc
CONTACT METHOD
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<li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/">https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo">https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting">https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting</a></li>
</ul>

Louise Minchin | Empty Nest Syndrome and Being Fearless in Midlife

In this 50th episode celebration, Liz and Michelle chat about turning 50 themselves and the idea of making a 50 at 50 list. They are then joined by celebrity journalist Suzanne Baum who shares some of her own 50 at 50 list, including facing her fears of heights. Suzanne opens up about her career interviewing huge names like David Beckham and Amanda Holden, and how she has used her platform for important issues like the Nicola Bulley case. She gives advice to aspiring journalists and talks about embarrassing moments, dream interviewees, and how certain hard-hitting stories have affected her. An insightful look into the world of journalism and the power of being your true self after 50.

KEY TAKEAWAYS
Suzanne has built great celeb relationships through integrity e.g. not sensationalising, but she also enjoys breaking real news stories.
Turning 50 has given Suzanne the courage to stand up to dodgy media outlets and represent brands she believes in.
Mind over matter is key to Suzanne facing fears like heights for her 50 at 50 list.
The Nicola Bulley story and talking to people affected by Covid were emotionally tough for Suzanne as a journalist.
Suzanne’s dream interviewee is the Spurs football team to impress her kids!
Peter Andre and Amanda Holden are two of the nicest celebs Suzanne has interviewed.
Suzanne’s advice for aspiring journalists is don’t do it for the money, focus on digital skills, and always research your subject.

BEST MOMENTS 

"I think it makes the reader be able to relate to you as well because you're talking about something so personal and so tragic, I think makes it really meaningful."

"I'll tell you what trips me up is the pronunciation of names. So, Virgil van Dyck, who I was interviewing last week, he's... a very famous Liverpool player with 40 million followers. I kept thinking, oh my god, I'm so gonna just say, I'm gonna say his name wrong."

But age is a gift and you know every day that we do get it. It's a wonderful thing that we get to do things like this, like the podcast, reinvent ourselves in our lives over 50.

If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at www.twowomenchatting.com.

ABOUT THE HOSTS
Liz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.
liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwc
Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!
michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc

CONTACT METHOD
https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/
https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo
https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting

In this 50th episode celebration, Liz and Michelle chat about turning 50 themselves and the idea of making a 50 at 50 list. They are then joined by celebrity journalist Suzanne Baum who shares some of her own 50 at 50 list, including facing her fears of heights. Suzanne opens up about her career interviewing huge names like David Beckham and Amanda Holden, and how she has used her platform for important issues like the Nicola Bulley case. She gives advice to aspiring journalists and talks about embarrassing moments, dream interviewees, and how certain hard-hitting stories have affected her. An insightful look into the world of journalism and the power of being your true self after 50.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li>Suzanne has built great celeb relationships through integrity e.g. not sensationalising, but she also enjoys breaking real news stories.</li>
<li>Turning 50 has given Suzanne the courage to stand up to dodgy media outlets and represent brands she believes in.</li>
<li>Mind over matter is key to Suzanne facing fears like heights for her 50 at 50 list.</li>
<li>The Nicola Bulley story and talking to people affected by Covid were emotionally tough for Suzanne as a journalist.</li>
<li>Suzanne’s dream interviewee is the Spurs football team to impress her kids!</li>
<li>Peter Andre and Amanda Holden are two of the nicest celebs Suzanne has interviewed.</li>
<li>Suzanne’s advice for aspiring journalists is don’t do it for the money, focus on digital skills, and always research your subject.</li>
</ul>
 BEST MOMENTS 
"I think it makes the reader be able to relate to you as well because you're talking about something so personal and so tragic, I think makes it really meaningful."
"I'll tell you what trips me up is the pronunciation of names. So, Virgil van Dyck, who I was interviewing last week, he's... a very famous Liverpool player with 40 million followers. I kept thinking, oh my god, I'm so gonna just say, I'm gonna say his name wrong."
But age is a gift and you know every day that we do get it. It's a wonderful thing that we get to do things like this, like the podcast, reinvent ourselves in our lives over 50.
If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at <a href="http://www.twowomenchatting.com/">www.twowomenchatting.com</a>.
ABOUT THE HOSTS Liz Copping is a networking pro &amp; event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast. <a href="mailto:Lizcopping@outlook.com">liz@twowomenchatting.com</a> Insta @lizcoppingtwc Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting! <a href="mailto:michelleford1000@gmail.com">michelle@twowomenchatting.com</a> Insta @michellefordtwc
CONTACT METHOD
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