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Cheers to Sobriety

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Liz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Janey Lee Grace, Kate Baily and Mandy Manners to discuss sobriety. Both Liz and Michelle are feeling sober curious, to the point where Liz is already drinking a lot less. Both of their guests became sober years ago and today help others to do the same.

They talk about the impact stopping drinking has, handling FOMO and getting the buzz without the booze. How sobriety reduces the impact menopause has on our health, confidence and our ability to sleep. They also offer tips on going sober when your partner does not want to do the same.


  • You really can get the buzz without the booze.
  • Don´t look at going sober as giving up something. If you do you will feel deprived and will slip back into drinking.
  • In the UK we have been brainwashed into thinking alcohol is good for us, that we need it to have a good time.
  • Alcohol definitely is not good for us. For example, it shrinks the brain.
  • Liz´s menopausal brain fog has diminished since she stopped drinking.
  • Supporting your body when you stop drinking helps. The podcast includes some fantastic tips.
  • When you don´t drink you give yourself the best chance of better health.
  • Becoming sober is a journey, it takes a while to get used to, but is worth the effort.
  • We are all seasonal beasts, the time of year impacts how you feel and, therefore, how easy it is to maintain sobriety.
  • There are other ways to get that relaxed feeling that you might have got from a glass of wine. Several are shared in the podcast.
  • Non-alcoholic treats are a must.


“It's reframing. Giving up something it's such a negative, it is depriving. You're not giving up. You're just changing.”

“Keep the ritual - Change the ingredients,”

“If you want any kind of behavioural change, you need both the logic and the emotional piece.”

“When you take alcohol out of the picture it actually opens you up to living life vibrantly.”

“Change is hard, change is uncomfortable. But it's also an opportunity for growth.”


Book – Happy Healthy Sober by Janey Lee Grace

Alcohol-Free Life Podcast

The Sober Club

Podcast episode with Dr. Anya Topiwala

Love Sober

Love Sober Podcast

Mandy Manners Coaching

Book – Love Your Sober Year by Kate Baily


Janey Lee Grace

Janey Lee Grace is a UK-based BBC presenter, and author of Happy Healthy Sober - ditch the booze and take control of your life. and founder of – Helping Others to get the Buzz without the booze. She is a trained health and well-being coach.

Kate Baily and Mandy Manners

It became clear to both Kate Baily and Mandy Manners that traditional methods and models of sobriety were often not gender-appropriate, trauma-informed, or holistic and so together they built programs, wrote books, and recorded a podcast to raise awareness around what we as women need to get sober. To stay and love being sober. Community, connection, well-being, fun and creativity are cornerstones of Love Sober.

Kate & Mandy are both ICF accredited Coaches, Coach Trainers in addictive behaviours, authors & speakers.  

Mandy co-wrote the courses Love Yourself Sober & Love Sober Life School with Kate & Kate runs Love Sober & facilitates those courses and continues to record the podcast and create & curate the resources on this site. 

If you would like to contact Mandy for 1-2-1 coaching, you can reach her at

To contact Kate for 1-2-1 coaching or for Love Sober enquiries it's


Liz Copping is an event consultant, stepping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.

Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!



Join hosts Liz and Michelle redefining life over 50 as empty nesters, embracing the highs and lows of midlife with celebrity guests and experts, sharing a laugh on their podcast sofa. We talk about real concerns, issues and fun topics that affect us, our friends, and our family. 

Midlife is not just about the menopause (although we’d be the first to admit it’s right up there!) but it is a time of adventure, change and reset - with plenty of opportunities and challenges along the way. 

Whether we’re chatting about ‘boomerang kids’, diet failures (and occasional successes!), pro-ageing, travel, changing relationships or inspiration for new jobs or activities, there’s always room for one more on our sofa.


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