Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Meloncamps and Tamra Jedge. Okay, welcome to the Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Meloncamp and Tamra Chudd. We are doing the recap episode, which we luckily we have guests on. You guys are so obsessed though with the recaps. I know, I think they like the recaps better. I know, well, especially when we're drinking. But I know we're not drinking. We're not drinking today. We drank on Tuesday. So you know you can't win them all. Guys. We can't be thirsty. I mean, we'll still be thirsty, but we can't be yes as dehydrated drinking water today. Cheers, cheers to water. Okay, so some of the shows. We'll start with Jersey. What do you think? What? What's your overall thoughts on Jersey? I mean want Teresa on so badly, so I don't want to like push it. Well, there was a recent story in the press because of me, so I'm like, oh, shoot, I hope I didn't piss off Teresa. Why Because I compared Louie to Brooks and the sense that he what I meant to say, I don't know what I said, because we were we were we were we imbed that day. So I was saying, like all the affirmations, that's what Brooks used to do with Vicky, like give her a card every day and all that. So I still like Louie and Teresa together, but so you were making friends for us. I was pissing people off, but then I do best. Um yeah, so we have that. UM. I thought though she came in very pissy the entire time, like there wasn't one second. Yeah Teresa, Yeah, like when she came to the event, she just yeah, I mean we'll get to that, We'll go to the UM. I liked the conversation with Marge and Jennifer. Okay, Jennifer worries about her marriage and thinks that it's time for Bill to fight for her. Margaret apologizes to Jennifer for bringing up the affair and didn't know that it would hurt her like this. She feels responsible. Okay, So, first of all, I have a new love for Marge after having her on the podcast. I've been told by so many people, even Julius who does her hair, a good friend of mine, you will love her, and we did love her I wanted to not love her. I want it and that's because you had a bone to pick with her, but you picked it and she and she handled the last she laughed and she first of all, she laughed and then she goes and I'm sorry. I well, she did say I felt bad. I felt bad. I shouldn't have done that. Blah blah blah. But that's that is the type of housewife. I like, you might get messy, and that's how I am. We're gonna get to your tweet last night later on when we get to the Orange County. Don't piss me off before I go to bed, Like, just don't do it, because you're gonna it a bad I know. She I love that. We haven't hold on before we even continued down Jersey. We haven't even talked about our recent life. You mean going to the I Heeart Radio My God Music Award was epic. I am still on a high. Thank you so much, I heard for having us there. Because even Eddie text me, which Eddie is not a guy that likes to go out like that. He texts me the next day from work because I was dragging as at home and he goes, that was so much fun last night, and I go, well, first of all, of course, it was you were with like three hot girls, so we have I mean, everyone was like, if I would have known I was going to be like that, I would have gone. It was guys, we had so much fun. We were like fan girling out. Halsey was like, they're pretty much. I've never you were sitting next to Willow. I was staying next to Willis Smith Dove. Cameron was behind me to hold you never sent me that fan girl video of me fan grolling out. Cameron's next, I'm like, what is she doing? It's like suddenly you see like a scar and then it's like me with George that Michael's guy with the same at Michaels I was so embarrassing, and then also Olivia Rodrigo and then all of it was so good. But one of the best parts of the night was at the beginning we're standing. There's like after you do the red carpet, which Tam and I you know, we're causing all kinds of trouble on the red carpet as we do. When somebody asked me a question, I have to answer honestly. She answers it and sometimes it gets us in trouble. I mean, I do the same thing. We just know we trade off. But so we're in this place where, you know, we're having drinks or whatever, and someone that works at MY Heart, who I happened to know quite high up at I Heart comes over and just is congratulating us on how all the posing I had never met him, and he goes, can I get you ladies a drink? And obviously I'm like, no, we're good. We can walk up to the bark at our own drink and there is a long line. We're in a crowded bar area, kind of a holding area before you get into them where they performed auditorium, and so he was super nice and sweet and just like, did you have any idea that you know the ratings are gonna be so good? And dad, Dad, how are you liking it? And just talking to me and then he's like do you want to drink? I'm like, yeah, sure, I don't want to wear in that line, right and so and Teddy's like, no, he's not making it's your boss. I'm like, I didn't know I was. It was. It was great, And then I teased to him about it the whole rest of the time. But yeah, then afterwards we went to dinner at Olive Beta, which was delicious. It was so good. Um, okay, we thanks. We shouldn't hate, though we ate, we ate everything. You weren't as bad as me. But are you kidding? Where you bread pasta? I mean the pmpagne warm homemade sour dough bread there is to die. And then Eddie felt the need to not be sparingly. He wasn't is that the word sparingly? To not be sparing with the butter he like buttered the ball for us, it was like salted butter. It was. Anyways, we closed the place down, of course, and then I forgot it was all amazing anyways. So we really love doing the pod because not only do we get to go to the I Heart Radio Awards, we also we are having some We are having all the fun, which is why we appreciate you guys listening to to us because it enables us to do this. Yes, and we like your feedback too, so um, yes, okay, what I back to Jersey? Okay, so we're back to Jersey. What I liked about the Margaret situation was she took ownership in the fact of really not realizing that Jennifer and Bill never really processed this affair. It's been ten years. I think that they did process, or she processed it the only way she can because he just seems like he's so cold, so she just kind of suppressed it, I think, And now that it's been brought up and everybody knows about it, she's been faced to deal with it again and he's not helping. I don't think he's helping, because then I am not saying that it's okay or I'm not endorsing it. I think had they really worked through it the first time, we would be in a different situation than we are now. But because it's bringing a bad feelings that she never got. But also you have to remember she had a like a newborn baby. I know. But what I'm just I'm saying, I feel like it was just swept under the rug because of the circumstances, and now ten years later, it's brought back out and it's bringing up that pain in her and he's like, whatever, he doesn't care. I'm hoping he does. He doesn't care. That's a bad thing to say. He's just removed from it. But it seems like to me, and I could be wrong. I mean very rarely, but sometimes sometimes sometimes it happens. But I think the problem is is he wants is maybe willing to have this conversation, but he's definitely not willing to have this conversation on camera. And I don't blame him, but he's not doing himself any good either. I feel like he should at least make some kind of a statement and just like give her a like throw her a bone, and just he start even brushing his hair and something. I mean, why can't you just say you know what, honey, that was like a horrible time. I feel horrible, like this is not something I want to revisit, like it's none of their business. But he's not even saying that. No, he's not saying anything, and he's starting to bug me. He's starting to piss me off. Just say, like her off too, because I feel like she's like, you know, the course isn't a bad thing. Um okay. Dolores still doesn't get how David is not speaking to her, and Frank thinks it's David's defense mechanism, but I agree with that, and I love their relationship. I mean, she could even when he was when Frank was talking to her about like we better not start sleeping around, like I never slept around, You're the one prostitutes or something like yeah, whatever, it was dead. I was dead and then like pinched his face and then like laugh and have a good time. I want them to get back together. I don't because I think you probably cheat on her. I think we love him, but I think he might not be the most monogamous person. And I think my girl, Dolores, I think she wants somebody. She of course loves him, but I think she knows I don't need to go back down that road and get hurt in that same way. And I love how she's like ever since I had my tummy, tuch, I always show my tummy. It's like, you go girls. I love any girl that admits that she got work done. Me too, when you lie about it or no, that annoys me. Um. Jackie opens up to her husband and then also opens up to Marge about the recommendations that she's getting for her eating disorder and that she decides to do outpatient therapy on her own time. Yeah, I don't think that's probably the best for her. Um. She doesn't. I feel like she's a little bit like trying to push it off, like, oh, I can't do it because of that, I can't do this of that, and she needs to do it and get it done and get better. Yeah. I mean I think I I get killed any time I talk about this in any capacity. But I do know that when we are in such situations where we're coming up with all of the different reasons why we can't take care of something or why we can't work on something, it's most of the time because of fear. And I know that from my own personal experience. Are people are so afraid to put the work into well scared of also changing it's you know, changing certain things that you know when when Marge said the statement, when I think first Jackie said it was you know, I've been living with this for twenty years. And then Marge responds with, well, I wanted to be fifty more how whatever it was or not for nothing. I'm gonna stack up for you on this. You should not get killed because you talk about weight. You can be underweight and you can have an eating disorder and that's not healthy. And you can be overweight and eat too much and have a problem with food, that's that way, and that's not healthy either. And I think in both of our our businesses, we just want you to be healthy, whatever size that is for you, whatever works for you, but to be healthy first. And and she's not healthy if she's not eating and and and she knows that. And I think ultimately when it comes to my relationship with food and my relationship to my clients and all of that, I truly believe in everything that I do, and that all the work that I put in and the license that I've gotten and all of that because I have been at my very worst when I wasn't taking care of myself, and that led to not only health issues, you know, but also depression has gone up and down drastically multiple times. Yeah, And it wasn't until after I had Cruise that I started to really get a handle on it. And what was your highest way? I mean over two pounds? I never take your three. I don't know. I'm a five three and a half. Every picture I'm teller than you, and I'm five three and a half's weird will measure it. And but I think that everybody's journey is different, and I think for me, I tied a lot in the control of of what food could do. Um, and being able to be held accountable to taking care of myself by moving my body and by fueling myself with foods that are are good for me. As it's really chance life. You don't have your health, You don't have anything in life, So take care of the body is the only body you get. Yeah, for sure. Um, And then should we talk about the rope's course? I always get a little annoyed when they do something that has already been done, has already been done. We did it on Orange County. It was a fun little project. But I'm like, ye't just do something different, That's that's a r don't you think? Like? But during run out of things to do, and they were teen years in the house, were running. They were just so excited that Barber's wife came up with an activity and it was so excited and she actually got to talk, she got to talk. But then Teresa just totally she was in a bad Teresa was in a bad mood. And I think that then it got to the point where then Tracy as she wouldn't even help Tracy on the thing. I know, I'm in a bad mood. I don't know it. Did it in with the to be continued? I think it and it wasn't should be continued? And then we've already seen scenes. Yes, so so Teresa obviously is hearing things that people are saying about Louis and she doesn't want to engage in it, so she's But you know what, I was so excited to see Piste off Teresa because I thought, oh, here we go. We're gonna get a good scene right now, because she's gonna get mad. And you know, when Teresa is mad, she flips tables and does other things. But she kind of blew it up. I'm just mad. I'm just mad. It's not gonna be good now. This is me just playing Devil's advocate. But do we think there's potential? This is why I want to have Trees on because I want to ask her certain questions, you know, not in a combative way like I'm probably gonna ask you right now. But do you think that she is going that hard about not wanting Louie to find out because she doesn't want Louie to get mad, not Louis to find out about the girls questioning him, and this continuing to come up and you know already, right, but he doesn't know that it's happening every episode constantly. The guys even questioned him. He's got to be used to it at that point. But if you have if allegedly, if you have a past issue with anger, issues with women and something you want out it's well, it's not something you want out there. But also I would then probably be worried it's going to happen again if you piss off that person. Maybe I never thought of it like that, but I mean that I don't know, she's not going to give you that answer. Well, I know she's not gonna give me that answer, but I do think that us just being able to have the conversation and understand. Listen, I get people not wanting things out there. If you don't want to share your kids something going on with your kids, then don't have your kids phone right exactly, But same goes with your relationships. You don't really have a choice. Oh, before we take a break, we should also talk about some of the games that I had Eddie playing while we were dinner, just to keep it just so we didn't talk about housewives. Hold on, let's take a little break. And we'll come right back and we will talk all things, oh see, and also our dinner with Ednie. Okay, we're back. I love that you gave me a hard time about my question, so I know that whenever we're with Eddie, he dreads talking anything about I get there's housewife talk in the room. He'll like literally walk out of the room. He's like like he does not want to talk about it or hear about it. And so Teddy to get his mind off of it, is what she told me, started asking him questions. Well, I was asking everyone at the questions like games, and it's weird because Eddie's a lot like that as well, like tell me some strong points about you, and I looked him like, go away. I love to play these things. My first game is like what is something that you're most proud of? And what's like your biggest insecurity blah blah blah. But then what I ended up doing was morphing it into housewife. Yeah, she slowly morphed into house like who would you rather Ky or or Shannon and allowed to say no, Okay, So we we made those kind of choices and it was just absolutely hilarious. And then there was one hypothetical that I gave him and he chose death. Yeah, he goes. She's all, would you rather this one or this one? He goes, I'd rather die. We're like, well, now that we're there, I guess we got that figured out. But I can say that these games did loosen him up. It did. And of course your guys our talk about the OA ring and your guys a sleeping patterns. I'm like, can you make it? We are that the Aora ring is not the birth control ring. That's what it just sounded like. Whatever, it's a sleep ring. So it's a sleep ring. Eddie's had up for three years. Um, we know the CEO and all this stuff. So anyways, long story short, he's had it for three years, but it's just recently kind of blown up, like Karadashians are wearing it. They sat there and looked at charts and you can link it to your phone. You can see your sleeping, your rim and all. That's starting to sound like a commercial, but he is very into that in your very yeah, and are knowing the rim sleep and the actual sleep and then the laid down time. And I'm like I'd look at and go, how's this changing my life. Honestly, jam was about to get the butter knife and take I was gonna Yeah, No, I was gonna take myself out, myself out. I'm like, oh my god, Now there's two of you. That's why I like you. Sorry, Now I'm Eddie and what is Jackie's husband name? Why am I none of the even Yeah, I'm a calm of Eddie and Evan exactly you are. So there is some fan thoughts, so we're gonna talk about those. For did we didn't do the new jersey? Sorry, guys were all over the play. Okay, Teresa needs to remember she's on reality TV. She's not special people gossip. So that's one of the fan thought not ours, guys. I know we need to be very clear. Thought. Um, why did Teresa bother to show up to a team building if she was in a rotten mood? I can answer that. I can answer that money. No, she was bringing her gifts, she was promoting her new workout line. She came with all these bags. Here's your workout clothes. Let me talk about that now. Now. I couldn't even focus because I was like, she's in such a bad mood. Right, there's a lot of Teresa. So people are not happy with Teresa. I think Teresa should apologize to Margaret and just be friends again. I agree, Um and this, all of these pretty much are about Teresa. But what I what we need to also point out is you're really only as good as last week's episode. Because when we talked when we had Marge come, the fan thoughts everyone was mad at Marge last week, everyone was mad at Margin. Now that everybody loves her, and now everybody wants Marge to get apologies. And I'm not saying that's because of two teas on the products. Yeah, so one fan says, I don't believe Margaret wants to be friends with Jennifer one bit. I think she. Oh there's something I'm not clear on what. So at that Rokes course, they were saying something that Teresa was digging. Oh yes, okay, So what I can understand, Okay, we're talking to So what they're saying is when Jen, last season, because you weren't there for this, you weren't there, You weren't I was there, I was living in Jersey. So last year, Jen, when that all came out, when Teresa brought up the potential Evan cheating on Jackie thing. Then she off camera, had some sort of conversation with the last year she was digging someone, I didn't see her dig this year yet, so she but she had a conversation dig no. No, She had a conversation with Jen and said like, I wish we could just find out but like she I mean, essentially she led like like every day they're gonna dig for dirt. Yeah, you're gonna figure it out. But overall I thought it was a pretty good But the problem wasn't what she was doing. Was what you get mad at Shannon for doing is she was actually digging but not but not taking ownership for the digging. She was like, you got to be open about your ships. My god, So should we go onto Orange County? Are we there yet? Yes? Yes? So basically Gina was I watch What Happens Live last night and a caller called in which I absolutely loved, and said, um, Gina, how do you feel about Tamra's podcast in her saying that you and Emily are not housewife material? And she came back with a pretty good come back, and she says, well, I'm still on and she's not, so of course, no, she doesn't say she's not. So that's why we didn't. You didn't necessarily need to go for Gina. It was Dr Jin And that's what I'm trying to explain. Last night. I was asleep when you were trying to explain. I know, okay, So what happened was is Gina responds, well, I'm still on the show, and so she does. She doesn't even she doesn't even come for you, like she just she's having her own back. But then Dr Jin, as she did and as we probably do to each other, interjected herself and said, and she's not. Oh, I got misinformation because I didn't watch it. I saw like the first five minutes because I was watching Orange County and of course it comes on, and then I had to go downstairs and do something. All I can say is Gina looked out my you know, my good friend Michelle. No, she list didn't do her My good friend Michelle cut her hair like that before at the reunion. And I love that haircut on her, really really short kind of I don't know, it looked she looked beautiful. The outfit Caroline. I did her hair and makeup. Who did mind? The last time I was on and she is amazing. She looked beautiful. She even looked thinner. I don't know if it's what she was wearing, but she looked really thin and her legs are long and beautiful. So sorry, Gina, I didn't I thought you meant. I thought you were putting a dig at me. No, she was just saying, I'm it was a little dig. It was a polite I'm currently on the dog her first, but I digged her first. But then you tweeted, and then also there's Kelly's tweets too, so it's a little they're not good. I honestly want to remove You're in Kelly's Twitter. If things happen in the nighttime. Um well, I was just going to bed and somebody text me and said that, and I'm like, and then I guess, Bravo, yes, watch what happens life tweeted out the link. I'm like, okay, I'll say that, so I will delete my Twitter my tweet because I thought she was like really bagging on me, and I'm like, no, she wasn't. If we're gonna be mad, it's not wrong though, let's you can't delete your tweet now. But guys, this is our this is Tami's formal apology, but um, this is Kelly's tweet, so I guess Gina also said something about I don't know. Uh, Kelly says, don't feel sorry for me. I'm sorry for your six kids being packed into two bedrooms. My daughter has traveled the world, lived in the best places and houses, and had the best education. Go on with your fake skin, Caroline, you can buy at right aid, then a k hunchback of Notre Dame. I've hosted many events and parties in my five million dollar home that I sold. You are nothing. I owned two homes meanwhile own an apartment. Okay, okay, that's Kelly. That is that is absolute Kelly. I'm not saying it's right, but that's how Kelly. Any time I've been around this is what's hard for me to compartmentalize. Any time I've been around Kelly, she been nothing but nice to me. So then I see these tweets, probably run tweet, but no, remember she's not drinking because of lent. Is that over yet? I don't know, is it? I don't know, Christian not Catholic. Yeah, so I don't know. But well I'm sure don't say that. Yeah, I mean, did Gina owns her house and whatever size? But also who cares if somebody owns a house or not? When did that become something that people dog people out on. She's not exactly so on the show the prior years, every most of the cast members were renting houses, and she bought a house, and then they went after her because Gina at a house. And I said, hey, Shannon, at least she owns her own house, like that's a big deal. Especially she's young too and she's single, so to own her own house is huge. And um so that's where that came from. Well, at least she owns it, okay, But now they're all obsessing over ad metting, who owns the houses? Who does that? It's really especially in this market, you're better off renting. But um, I I thought on Watch What Happens Live you haven't seen it. I thought Gina looked beautiful. I didn't think she went too hard on you. I think she just did what she had to do on watch, But I do think that Gina ultimately didn't seem as free as she sometimes is. You could tell she was guarded and likely it wasn't like sometimes you see Gina. It just feels like effortless and light and it didn't feel like how it was Dr Jen. She bugs me, so she's you know what it is. I think she's just awkward. Well she I don't know. Maybe I also don't really need to have to Orange County Housewives on at the same time on Watch What Happens Live. I wonder why they did that. Maybe somebody canceled, but I don't need one to Chia. Maybe she's not that interesting, so they had to put her with generally just have doctor Jim. Don't know, but either way, she kept chiming in. It wasn't hilarious to me. It was They did a poll that said who had the best work done, and the entire people that do the polling, whoever that is, said that it was had the debrow. I don't think Heather's had work done, to be honest with you, well, that she won the poll. And then there was also another poll which I want to ask you about, which was who do you think Well, first it was who do you think is more fun? Uh, Gina or Shannon and Shannon one and was more fun? And then there was another poll that I don't wish you guys can see Champ's face, which so she they thought Shannon's more fun. They said, Shannon's more fun. Shannon can't be fun. She can be a lot of fun, but she can also be like a big Debbie downer to and then so this might have been why Gina came in a little bit on the defense because she had already lost the polls. And then the other poll was, was Gina not appreciative enough of Shannon finding her the lawyer? Also, okay, I don't think she found her the lawyers. I hate bugs me like if okay, it's not like she was looking through the Yellow Pages when I gotta find I gotta find it. She just gave her contract. She literally she has a friend that's an attorney and she said, hey, my friend is in trouble and he's like, oh, I'll take care of it. And he looked it up and saw that she had no warrant or something. Are they were gonna pick her up? So he's like, I'm gonna call her right now. So yeah, I mean, but what more does she I don't think she needs more than the thank you, thank you. It's not like her, Yeah, well, don't drink and drive, but if you do and one of your friends is going to help you out and get you a lawyer in your life. But it's not like Shannon paid. I would get it if Shannon had to pick up the bill, you didn't. She just gave her the information. So that was that. And then we get into the show where Gina says Shannon likes to self remote and be the hero, like saying she saved Gina's life after her d u y. I agree with that, and I do agree with that. Shannon likes to if she does something for you because she doesn't do a lot for other people in general. By the way, Happy birthday, Shannon. It's her birthday today. Oh it is happy birth Let's thank your Happy birthday to you. Done. Happy birthday, Happy birthday Jeff Lewis's birthday too. Oh it is happy birthday, joff Um. I think with Gina's mom going up to Shannon and basically thanking her, it just made things worse, things worse. It made things is probably great, thanks mom. I mean I think that also the gifts, both how there's gift to her and Shannon's get this is a very strange to me. Do yeah, I mean, I think you bring up well First of all, I never got a Chanel get. I knew Heather for years. I never got a chel gift from her. For it was something involving city trip or something like. There was like the comment like that's blah blah blah, but whatever. Um, I can say this about our girl Heather. I thought some of her confessionals were funny. This episode. I just for once I didn't get like there was something because there wasn't a lot of Heather this episode. Maybe that's what it was. So it was a lot of Gina with her new skincareline. Um. I was proud of her, and I liked her speech. And her parents are lovely. I've met them a few times. Um yeah, I mean I'm proud of her and the girl that they Okay, So the house they were at Tatiana's house. That was actually a friend of mine that was trying out for the show multiple times, and she moved from Long Island, moved to Koto, started come to our gym, was hanging out with a hus We got to know them very well. We still know them, Kyle and Tatiana. And then the last year she was trying out, she had to have a friend come with her to do some at home filming. Well, that friend was Na and Gina got the show and Tatiana didn't. I just got So that's behind the story on that. And that's really how I had met Gina at an event at Tatiana's house and I'm like, oh my god, you're so outspoken. I said you should, you should try out for the show, and she's like like whatever. And then Tatiana was trying out and she's doing all her interviews and her little home stuff, and then Gina got it. She was dead, thus stated, and then oh my god, did you see the the girl? It's like, where is Waldo? Oh my god, Jody, the Jody girl. She's either she's always in the background at some we haven't Also, we need to talk about the two different therapists the well, I don't know if you call them therapists, but the first one where they pulled the oh they pulled the demon out of Gina's math, I'm like, you know what, this is a ship. You should pull me out of her ass because this is like I am. Then sat her eyes seemed like me. I honestly, to I I wanted to die. I'm like, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. I cannot believe that you kept it on the show. Between she's basically been like I don't know if she said possessed or whatever words she used ever since she was in that tense thing, and now she needs it pulled out of her. Yeah that was. I'm like, come on, really, this is that? Those are kind of storylines. I'm like that was, and then all of a sudden she's going to be able to handle Shannon, but then cut to her calling Shannon and having to cancel on Shanne because she's too worried about her skin care line. I mean, it was all the things. Um, I was potentially going to go to that party. I'm glad you didn't know. I'm glad I didn't film, but I that was one party that they had talked to me about because what would you have done? And then at the last moment um like what would you have done when Shannon was? No, Shannon didn't flip out at that party? Was that the week before? Where Why am I lost? When did Shannon flip out? That was the prior party at the brain scan party? Oh yeah, so I'm no, I'm glad I didn't go it would nothing that. I don't think from that event. I don't think. I don't like when big things happen at launch events like it. I think it always gets then it turns into the wrong issue. Yeah, you ruined my skincare line, and I don't we don't need that. Congratulations to Gina. That is amazing to see her parents were so proud of her. Um. Yeah. Then they talked about going to Aspen and I always love these talks on the show when they're like, I'm thinking we should all go on a trap. Here's the house, as if they picked out the house. For the record, you guys, they don't think out that. We never pick out any houses. And I can tell you do you remember the Santa Barbera trip, Yes, from Beverly Hills where we were there. I mean one that it was a beautiful house inside, but it was so far from everything. There's no way, and I mean any of these houses they're picked out because there's deals being made that yeah, yeah, but it trade out that type of thing. But no house. I was picking any house unless it's their own house, like when they all came to my beach house and that type of thing. Unless as your own house hold on and then we have to also first let's we'll talk about the Jen and Noela drama, which isn't even drama to me. Apparently Jen still has no Ela blocked and because she tagged her, she tried to tag her, couldn't blah blah blah. But it's all because of Noela's father passing, right right, And I know, I just got some clarity on her father passing because there's a lot of stuff in the press saying that he passed in two dozen twelve, and there's a somebody with his exact same name that's in the public eye that died then, and it's not him, And so I'm like, I got to get to the bottom of this. Yeah, wouldn't figure it out. So I text braun Wyn and I said, Brama, did he really just or was it two dozen twelves? She's like, no recently died, So she was not lying because I thought if she's lying that I I know that's what I'm down with her because then her mom was in on it and everybody well, and plus like there were when she was talking and she was saying, you know, she was programmed at at a young age to think her word like her worth was to make everything. There were things that she said and did where I really I really enjoyed Noella in this this episode for sure, And if we can see more of Noella, I hope if she gets another season, if we can see more of that, she could be an amazing housewive. But she's beautiful, she dresses nice. You know, she got a great lifestyle. But she came in a little too hot series. But I think that this, you know, I feel for her, and I mean that not being able to introduce your kids to their grandfather is heartbreaking. But I mean, this is why the housewife world is so I mean, there is twenty different press articles saying that he passed away in two thousand and twelve at forty four years old, and blah blah blah, and all these from the same thing. Well, I'm sure they talked it. I want to know. I bet you they didn't talk about the reunion because all these articles and likes Shannon dug it up. I mean, who knows. I don't think they probably talked about it. If you're a good house if you would have dug up that information that had it at the reunion. So let's see who's playing. But I do think that you can start to see Noela as forming relationships with some of the women she is. Emily is in the mix with everybody. Emily is, Emily is working at She's working at in a very obvious way, right, but at least she's working. I'm not I'm here for it. She'll learn to do a little bit more on the down low. She's you know, she's used to. There was nothing, so now we've got to beat now that we're she she's pushing story which I have to your storyline is going to be her and her husband joined forces and they're going to have to open up their own law firm. Um and then a preview to Aspen shows and how there says it's crazy town. I mean, ultimately it was okay, it was okay. I mean it wasn't I don't know. So we have some um fan thoughts. So Shannon want she need to owe her for the rest of her life because of the attorney, and we talked about that already that we've already covered that, but yeah, that's what it kind of sounds like. And that's that is how Shannon is. Well, I have a question. I am the best friend. I've been nothing but a good friend. I'm always doing things for you. Well, I do have a question, do you agree with with Gina that Shannon only has show friends. Janna has a little bit of a problem keeping friends. She's not one to call you and say, you know, how's your melanoma? Are you gonna be okay? She would never do that. Ever, while we're on the topic of melanoma, we got good news online UM that it is melanoma in C two, which I was like, can you spell that? And she's like, Teddy, please stop googling. But ultimately it means that, yes, I have to go for additional testing. Yes, I go for UM every three months A go and get it checked again, and I have to see one other specialist just to make sure that all the margins are clear. But it's essentially stage zero, so it's solely it has not gone deeper or penetrated into the Lympes or anything like that. So really great, Really you will not have to go back and have them cut more out at the doctor that I went to a lot I cut out. It's I mean, I went two sets of stitches. I haven't been able to do I can walk and do that kind of stuff. But like, I haven't been able to lift of tennis anytime soon. Somebody invited me to pickleble tournament speak and I can't go. But okay, so yeah, just to keep you updated on that. Um, can we at next fand thought? Can we all see now that Shannon has always bad mouth Gina? How she I don't think so. I think it's a nature of the show. I think they all bad mouth each other. You can't pinpoint one over the other. I don't think that Shannon's bad mouth there anymore than she's bad mouth Shannon. Yeah, do you think I don't know? I've never seen this is thing Shannon doesn't. She's done a like viciously mean person. Like she won't say like straight out meme stuff. She might be calculated, but she's not a mean person. I think that this was missed last week when we were at I Heart because we did so many shows in one episode. But I don't think we actually really discussed Shannon and her boyfriend's conversation about Gina. Afterwards, we refreshed my memory. So when Gina does say to Shannon whatever she implies, I don't exactly remember, but she the boyfriend is so aggressive afterwards, like he's like, well, like that was not a good look for him at all. So my question is what Because I met him at Bravo con and he but I didn't go out at Bravoc. I was pregnant, so I was all the girls would kind of go out at night and I would do the dinner portion at the hotel and then go to bed because it was, you know, eight months pregnant, and that sounded torture. Um. But he was always like like over the top, like holding her purse behind her yes, like taking would never be So that's why it was confusing to me. Is he a nice guy or is he just trying to have her back? Or is he trying to make good television. He's always been nice to me. I'm not gonna say. I can't really judge him other than how he treated me, and he was always nice, so UM, I don't know. Um. The next question from a fan was why does Noela only film with her mother because nobody else will film with her that So what ends up happening if you are on the show and you're on an island by yourself, you're filming with your dog, are you're feeling with your kids, are you're feeling with whoever? And the only one she has she has that Kenny girl who's beautiful, and then her mother, but her mom doesn't really talk, which makes it it's not it's not great, it's not great. I like this one. I think Emily's being a shipster and making Gina and Shannon's relationship worse. And I'm going to agree with that fan I agree to because she talks to him and then tries to get them together, and then she runs and tell the other one with the other one says and and not. And the thing is it's like not a helpful well in a helpful way and negative like oh she's talking in she said this. It's like, okay, well we'll wrap uh Osie and get into a little Bravo Housewife headlines after the break al Right, I might have to my glasses on because I'm one how to percent all for this article. By the way, they're way too strong and they're not mine. So okay, So we have Luan coming on next, so I'm really interested. We have to talk to her about this. So the Bravo rebooting of New York City, Ramona Singer Luan Day lists up is how you say it? Um, So, major changes are coming to the Real Housewives of New York. On Wednesday, Anikhn confirmed to a variety that Bravo is rebooting and recasting the series for the upcoming season, with hopes of securing a more diverse group of women for the show. No other casting decisions have been announced. You know that we're crossroads with New York, and said a Variety. We've spent a lot of time figuring out where to go, and the plan that we've come up with, I think is a real gift to the fans. Season thirteen, House of New York started romantic and we don't need to say all the names. So basically, they're gonna totally reboot New York. Everybody got the call, except they're going to totally reboot it except for Ebony. Right, Well, we don't know, we don't know that's true. No, well that's what they're they're saying that, Um, they might know. This was in Variety that they may end up just bringing in some of Ebany's friends. Okay, well we'll see if that happens. I don't think that they've casted yet. So they're going to cast for New York and then they're going to after that is done and started. I hear they're going to cast for a new show. They're gonna bring back the O, G, the G S. Which question we are on a bet text right now if they're going to bring back Ramona or not. I think they're going so why wouldn't they Well because she made some inappropriate comments. But my question is, um, do you think they're going to do that with all the franchises? Now make two different ones because I'm especially if it's true, because it says right here in in UH that the women for that we're going back. I mean, this could be wrong, but they're claiming that these ex cast members are going to be offered a hundred thousand dollars or less to do to the new show. So you have to imagine if how I has been on for twelve years, they're used to getting a lot of money, so they're not. I doubt that's true. We'll talk to Luanne. We'll find out what the truth is and if she's going to be joining the what's what's the cast called the Oh, it's called exclusive or the no, I can't remember it. Rebooting and Rico asking the series, I think it's like the reboot. No, the reboot is the old show. The O g who knows? We can we make it up? The next thing that I guess we're gonna need to discuss with Luan, which also was in the headlines this week. Earlier this week, a lit up Luan reportedly entered a gay piano bar in New York City, commandeered the microphone, and, after reportedly drunkenly mumbling through several songs, was booed to the point that she began hurling obscenities at the patrons, which included several drag queens. She ends up giving a public apology on her Instagram and and like I said, I'm only human and it happened, um, and yeah, that's that's where we are with that. But far on And do you think she's going to talk about it? And is it's not off limits? Right? I think she's going to talk about I think any time I've ever met her, she seemed very very open, transparent and cool. And I like, we gotta find out all the details on how she found out that New York wasn't coming back and how long have they been off it's been over a year, and why wasn't there a reunion? Why wasn't there a reunion? That is scary. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about this one. Shannon Bador denies Tamra JEDD's claims that she stopped texting her once Tamra was fired. Shannon was recently on Watch What Happens Live to chat with Andy Cohen about r H o C, and a fan wrote in to get her opinion on Tamra, most most specifically about Tamra claiming Shannon's dropped her as soon as she was fired on the show. Well, first of all, I never said she dropped me as soon as I was fired, And I'll get to that. The viewers um, Tamra said she left o C. You stopped contacting her? Is that true? And Shannon Bise just said no, and I have the text message to prove it. So basically, what happened, I will I have a text message to to clear I think I do UM to clear this up. So what happened was I lost my job and then Shannon called Like we were talking for maybe a month that the most, but the suddenly they came sporadic like she would call me and then I wouldn't hear from her for a week, and then I would call her and call her, and she sent me to voicemail and send any voicemail. There's actually one text, and I wish she would release that. I She finally called me back and granted, this is a girl that I would talk to seventeen times a day. She's just like you and Kyle probably like you talk all the time, and all of sudden you lose your job. My ex husband's diagnosed with cancer. I don't know if he's gonna live. I'm selling my house, everything. I feel like my whole life is crashing. The one time that I really wanted my friend voicemail, voicemail, voicemail. At one point, she finally called me back, and um, I talked to her, and after that I text her, I said thank you so much for I mean, I'm thanking her for calling me because I'm like, I thought, like, not only was I losing everything around me, but I'm I was losing my best friend and all this, and she's like, oh, no, we're good. Whatever. So a few more texts went back, she ignored them, and then I didn't hear from her. I didn't. I said, I'm gonna stop trying. So I stopped trying. So we did talk for about a month. I stopped trying and never heard anything from her. So I was on a UM podcast or something, did an interview. I said, yes, she just stopped talking to me. That's when I got a text message from her. I'm hearing all this stuff and I don't even think I responded. I'm like, oh, now you want to respond to me because you're getting bad press about it. But she did, and she did to Vicky two, she did to Heather, to Brow, she did it to Megan, she did to everybody that left. If you're on the show, she doesn't really have time for you. And it was a big I know it was a big hit to me because I talked her all the time, all day long, off all the ledges of yeah, so I don't know what she you know, whatever, I mean. I personally don't think this is that interesting of an article, but it's staying on Shannon. Her dress disaster causes season sixteen reunion delay. There's a lot of dramas surrounding Shannon's dress during the Real Housewives Orange County season sixteen reunion. Earlier this month, a source exclusively revealed to Page six there was a lot of dramas the fifty seven year old Project Runway star Bones Jones, who she worked alongside with in the Real Housewives episode to design her reading a dress. However, when Shannon received the dress, it was what she thought. It wasn't what she thought it would be. And we saw a picture of it. It wasn't it wasn't pretty. We saw a picture of somebody that works with bone Jones and it and every dress looks different on different different people. Yeah, but it was just like a canary yellow. It was a very big birdie with you know, you guys have seen it. You can go you can go on to his instagram and see it. Um. I think the sad thing was is that that story got leaked because this guy obviously was trying to do something and it didn't work out. Um. I don't think she leaked it. I think they're still friends. Yeah, I mean ultimately what and I think what he said is that it didn't work out and it happens well, he only had three measurements like that, which I believe. But this is the part that throws me. I did twelve reunions. We had to have two or three dresses. We had to bring them because you always have to have an extras in case something happened, and so I would always bring two or three dresses. Not just that, but also we have to send pictures of ourselves I know, and all of the dress prior. So what is the confusion. Confusion is is they had to stop filming. They couldn't start filming for two hours because somebody had to go to a store off Sacks. I think they bought it for to get Shannon's dress. I would be mortified if somebody's going out to buy me a dress. It's absolutely unless the dress broke, that dress had to have been approved on her body. There's absolutely no way they would let I don't know what happened. Maybe because he's another Bravo show that they just assumed that he was going to pull through with it. But as Shannon knew, probably that this dress I don't like it, or the dress doesn't fit right A couple of days before I personally am I'm more organized in that sense. I would have had a backup dress. I know you came to my heart. Yeah, I have a backup dress. As you just never know. Now. Jen Armstrong and her husband writ by Ryan know what's happening? Did you hear he changed it? No? But everyone was calling him. He introduced himself as Ryan on this sweeps up. I don't think he knows what his name is. Is what it is? So they want a fresh start. So, UM, I know where their house is. I have a girlfriend that lives right next door to them. Um, that's in a very aggressive price to say the least. Um, great location. If she gets it, good for her, and I hope they get that reaf. That's good start. But then one thing fresh starts you can't. Um, you can't change houses and make your relationship work. I tried that with Simon many times. I don't know that she really loved the fact that she shared, um that she had sex with him the night before, Like when Emily was like yeah right, he was like, honestly gave he I know. I don't really talk like talking about married people's sex anyways. I don't know, I just feel like it's kind of awful in its I don't know. I don't mind talking about sex, but if you're I mean, if it's me and you in private, Yeah, but if it's like at a party, you go and I don't know. It's one thing to talk if she was telling the girls, but for Emily then to say it to run when you're struggling in a relationship, and then first you don't need somebody to call you out on it. Like Emily, everything she hears, she's gotta blurt it out her mouth. It's starting to get a little annoying. I mean, it's better than what she used to be. But just like just you don't have to say everything your hair. We really don't well, I mean that pretty much for today. I mean, it feels so bizarre that we don't have another episode to cover of another it actually feels good. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Well, thanks you guys for tuning in, and make sure that you listen to the next spot as well because we will have lu Ann on and ask a lot of great guest lined up.