The Real Husbands

Published Sep 24, 2022, 5:58 PM

It’s Vegas baby!!  So we flew in Drew Sidora and she is coming in hot from Atlanta. She brought along a special guest, her husband Ralph, so Teddi grabbed Edwin and it’s on… fire!!!!!!

We’ve got recaps, mishaps, all the haps and PLENTY of booze.

Two teas in a pod with Teddy melancants and camera judge. Hi, guys, welcome to to cheese in a pod from Las Vegas at the Heart Radio Music Festival. Last night was a little bit of a blur, but I am here and I am so excited to be with a very special co host, drew a, Sdora, our favorite from real housewives of Atlanta, and then you guys loved her so much we had to fly her into Vegas for her hot takes on all things Beverly Hills. God, so you're all caught up right like. I mean, look at the fact I look like a mad scientist here with all of my notes. It's like chicken scratch. My husband's like you have an illness when he sees me like prepping for this. It's the workstation. But all right, so let's start off. I doing well. I also want to tease that at the end of this we're gonna be bringing on our husband's Ralph and Edwin we've got some we've got some tough questions asked them. It's gonna get spicy. We're also going to do a little um tequila tasting and wine tasting. Of all, housewife beverages look okay. Oh well, maybe we will, maybe we won't. Let's get through this recap and see what happens Um all right. So we'll start off with housewife headlines. Erica Jane dismissed from lawsuit over attorney fees and this l a MAG article. Here a judge has formerly dismissed Erica Jane as defendant and the lawsuit brought by two attorneys against her, as well as her strange husband, Tom Girardi and his former law firm, Girardi and keys, in a dispute over attorneys millions and Gerardi keys never gave their share to a sheldon and fan they were suing over for nine thousand dollars l a Superior Court Ruan signed a judgment in favor of Jane on Friday, affirming his August twenty nine ruling removing her as a defendant in the case. Listen, I've got to say first off, the fact that the court is working with real housewives of Beverly Hills episode drops on where and I knew that. Well, look the president we had, he came from reality. So things in America. I mean it's true, like the act, that like she was able to put on Wednesday, the day that the episode dropped, that this happened. I was like, that's a little bit of that's a little bit of good luck here, but I'm happy for our girl. Like I like I said before when we were talking last time, that I believe like I've been in that situation. So my heart went out to her. So I'm glad the court ruled. I'm this way. I mean I think there's a lot more court suits, a lot more suits to come, but I think the fact that every win showing that she wasn't a part of it, it's got to feel good for her mental state feelings. Absolutely. It's hard to fathom, you know, because you're like, well, you were with him, that's your husband, like you should know everything, but you'd be surprised, you know. I mean, do you know everything about your husband? Well, you guys know I don't. You. I can't even live. I want to do it. I mean, I mean still trying to figure out. Well, he did show me recess about Tampa, you know, but there's things and now I'm reading the book, so you know I'm learning, but I don't know. Is it a mean thing? Maybe we'll save those questions. Well, well, we'll dig into the husband's later. I mean, let's be honest, like I'm on my husband's eye cloud right now. It's just how the passwords to the eye cloud. You know what, thirteen years later, that's how you get through years. Goals. Um, okay. Then this one. You gave shared a little tea on this, which I didn't realize. Lisa rennas seeking two million for real housewives of Beverly Hill, season thirteen, demands to be the highest paid housewife. Lea's Sorenna is currently renegotiating her contract with Bravo, demanding that she'd be the highest paid real housewife ever or she won't come back. Here's the thing. First off, this is on radar online, which I take the articles on radar online with a grain of salt. We know that history and yeah, click, but is there any other housewives that make two know? Well, I mean hello, housewives of Atlanta, Stark Candy, the candy bars. She is now crossed the two million dollar mark. Four season, fifteen million. Two million, which hold on, what season are you ont? We're coming up on season fifteen. No, but you're on season three. So like you're you're still spending more than you make. I'm still just like in the red a little bit actually, like it's really bad where. My husband will have a lot to say about that. He's got the whole remember I told you the spreadsheet. Yeah, so every dime. Next level. People that are like, oh well, you take so much. Right, I'm like your first season on how that's why if you paid to beyond. Okay. So I didn't know that, because you know, I'm an actor, so you know where we come from, right. I'm like, Glam is taken care of. Like, what are you talking about? I make money right. So when I came on the show, I was like, wait, what? I have to pay for every like Glam, every day glam clothes. You can't ever wear the same thing. And you know in Atlanta it's hot, like you can't show up with the same back twice. That's just what it is. And I'm like, wait, what? So everything is an investment, every and people think that when we do events, that you know what I'm saying, they give us money. Yeah, don't know. That's our event and that's it period. Yeah, no, there. And the only thing that's a little bit scute is when they say the trips and they're like Oh, it's I crack up every time for the setup when it's like my trip and I'm like yeah, my trip. It's like everybody rotates whose trip it is. That's the only thing. But yeah, you end up, yes, you're you get paid your first couple of seasons, but it's so minimal that you end up spending more. But do you so, do you think that she'll be back? I mean I thought, well, she had taken like real house with Beverly Hills off her instagram page and like it was looking like she was leaving. So I'm actually shocked when she's like now I'm coming in strong and demanding two million. You know, that's I don't know if that's necessarily true that she's doing that. I do think that she removed all it. Just this is me guessing, but I do think she removed everything to kind of as like a you guys better show it's actually really going down on this show. Um. But I do also know, like you don't want to have with Bravo hello, because I'm still looking for me. I know, like I'm like, I don't I know one person not to mess up to. I'm not even on the show anymore and I'm like, would bravo prove this? So many things. I mean, we'll see what happens. This is like a stay tuned situation. Um, so I don't know. And then on Radio Andy show he said a housewife walked out of the reunion. I already know who it is. I can't say. Come on, but what the t I'm giving is that I already know, because it's obviously someone I am I know. Is it o g? So it's an o G. Okay, so we know that. So if you were to guess out here, if you were to guess, who do you think? Somebody that I probably have communication with. Oh, Kyle. I don't know, dad, I think wait a minute, I looked in your eyes. You're looking down. Okay, look me in my eyes. Three Kyle. I think it's Kyle. I'M gonna say it's Kyle. I'M gonna say it's Kyle. I cannot confirm or deny. I'm gonna text you after I watch. But what Hendy said, it is true. Somebody does walk off, and I think it's more than once. Well, because I feel like kyle is kind of fed up this season with certain things. You know what I mean so I could see her just I can see it being kyle and just be like, you know, you know who's gonna be here tomorrow. So you can ask her yourself. But I do know that the reunion was in tense, lots of tears, lots of drama. Um. And then so post Reunion, Kathy Hilton is going off on instagram stories about Renna. Here are some of the shots. Uh, I mean the fact that she like doesn't even know how to use instagram and like rights on people's instagram her phone number call me, but like as knows how to do a repost. It's hilarious. Lisa Renna. It's the most appalling violent behavior I've ever seen. Also Lisa Renna, and it's like her flipping out and Renna's attacks Kim Richard's like all the she's posting Renna's past behavior. Um, which here's the thing. Thou who protests too hard, that you know, this is why they pay me the big box, like thou who who protests too much. Like, I think the fact if you're going out of your way to do if you're Kathy Hilton and you're going out of your way to do reposts, to like dog out Lista Reno when you already have the fans on your side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it, because Kathy was like not really here, like if, like, we've seen the progression of Kathy Hilton, right, so I feel like you're seeing, we're seeing the real Cathy Hilton come out like she is now. She needs to hold like the diamonds. Yeah, I mean because she there's, there's, uh, I think. I think when you have too much of control over a show, like when you get lawyers involved, I personally think your time will be limited. Really, like, have you ever Sued Bravo? Well, not Bravo, but I did want to see a couple of people on the show. You did see that. I wanted to. We didn't, but I wanted to because the reason I felt. I know, but you thought I strongly disagree with housewife suing each other. You come on a show to to talk ship, but my husband, I know. But for me all you want my husband. Right, but did he show up to film? He's fair game. What about? What about when they talk about your husband when he's not even there? Because but he's already if you never brought your husband on the show and they didn't talk about him. Fine, but he's there. He's an active per system and he walks in with his shirt off. He does, he does, he does, so he I'm sorry. If you that's the same thing, like yes, of course kids are off limits, but if your kids become a storyline because of something that you've brought them into, see, I don't know, because I feel like in Atlanta there's certain moments that are missed. I feel like in Beverly Hills, you guys do corral. You know what I mean, you guys. You guys have the heart to know, like, all right, my sister is he you're hurting or she's going through something real, so we're going to support her in this moment, even if I don't like her. I feel like in Atlanta, when it came to like my body and my health issues, when it comes to children, I feel like with husbands, certain things should be off limits. I don't think you should attack children. I don't. I have women in their body and that was something I talked about. Like I'm opening up about my healthier my hys directed me and you guys are still like, you know what I mean, throwing shade in that and I just felt like some things, when it goes below the bell, you kind of get need to put people in their place. I do too, but I I also think like a lawsuit really isn't going to get anybody anywhere. Order. Yeah, I mean Indian, I mean they're gonna find because then the problem is they're going to find something else and then it's gonna Piss you off more, and then when does it stop? I wish I knew you before, but I didn't. We didn't file. So we're gonna hold off. We're gonna hold off, hold off, because here's the thing, because it's gonna come full circle, because I'm you know you're you're messy too. So that boy, you are going to do something that's going to ultimately piss somebody off and it's a waste of money. And that's the real reason. Because, you know, I did how to apologize a couple of times because I was like, you know what, yeah, let me just not and Ralph, I think he did a great job. You know, watch the reunion. Tell me Um, but he did a good job in setting terre, you know straight. Yeah, and ultimately you know who he is, if you know the marriage that you're in, you know the relationship you're in. I think yes, kids one million percent should be off limits. But if kids come up because you've had them somewhere, they're gonna come up. You need to come to Atlanta. I think you guys would eat me a way. Are you serious? I don't know. I feel like they would be like, Oh God, Teddy's here. I don't know. Well, I'll be a pravo con so I'll be grilling all of you guys and I'm excited to talk to Sonya. Let's yeah, a lot of questions, right? I have a lot of questions. Also, I didn't know she was on a reality show before for one season. I know, but yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, we can't really get into it Atlanta right now. But Um, real housewives of Beverly Hill Star Shari's Zampino dishes on all her bravo cast meats. I mean I'm glad she's dishing now because she doesn't talk on the show. I oh, she's trying to find her way. I'm sorry. Yeah, US this episode was Hilarious when she signed the card like on the gift like she does little funny thing next moments. But I need her more and I need, especially my friends of I need my friends of fighting for that diamond, and I don't think she fought for that diamond. I don't think it's coming. Yeah, I was like, does she even want to be here? I mean I think, I really feel like she was here for Garcea, you know, like I got your bag, you know, vint to me, we can kick he or whatever, but in the long run I think she'll have to open up a little bit more, because she does. I mean I've I've known her just from the l a days and she's showing her true colors. Yeah, I feel like she's being a little more reserved, a little more timid, trying to find her way because she's she's she's funny. You can definitely tell that she's funny. This interview she pretty much says Um some of the ladies that I didn't think I would like in terms of what characters they were giving and, in my opinions, were based on what I saw as a fan, which I do like, is she admits to being a fan. I hate when housewives come on housewives and they're like, I never watched the show, and they clearly did. Right Um. So I like that she keeps it real. Um, she says. Like with Erica, I actually thought she was fun. I had a good time with her. I saw her realness from New York, and so I love her. And Lisa, Rinna, she's a soap opera star and wife of actor Harry Hamlin. I also found her to be very nurturing, UM, which I agree with her on that. Renna, like, yes, you guys see like Renna on Instagram, who goes off the handle, but she is a good friend and you know, she kind of breaks it down. Then she says something about Kyle, like, you know, she who she would not tell a secret or something like that, and it's Kyle, because she's like she basically produces the show, which is not no, but are you kidding? Don't you think she would have edited herself a little better the season? Because in Atlanta we have people that definitely produce themselves. So well, producing themselves and then producing that like people have always like. They love to say, oh well, kyle is practically a producer of real housewives. I'm like, absolutely not. She moves story the same way that Garcel moves story. See, I got so much to learn. I saw the Newbie so I'm like, I think I just am a little, probably two out there with everything you know there. I think what happens is is you're sitting at a dinner and you realize this dinner is not going to be shown. I spent five dollars on Glam. I spoke about it, I thought on this dress and my good time and I realized that nobody gives a crap about the weather or what television shows were watching and something needs to happen. So we got to move things along. So I look at any shipster as they're doing a favor to us. Got It by keeping it going. Got It. Um. The last thing that I'm seeing is Bravo instagram or claims. What was really edited out of real housewives of Beverly Hills. Oh, I didn't read this on the rundown prior Um. This is from your mom's are watching. So Bravo told the ladies they cannot mention the fact that Kathy called the DJ and old effing F A G M M GE UH Huh. And then on camera and they cut out all the confessionals that dealt with it specifically, and it wasn't just Erica and Lisa and Diana talking about some of the things Kathy says in the club. What we are left with is a bizarre cut that makes it seem like the women are overreacting about a woman's rant against her sister. No wonder every single Bravo site is fawning all over Kathy. The truth is not out there never will be. I don't know if this is true. I I you know, I I know certain things, but I don't know the magnitude that goes into but what I can say when fans like you, you can do no wrong, they love you, they want to see the best in you continuously. And when fans don't like you, you can do no right. Ever. Well, that was me first season, so I'm experienced both sides now. So very, very true, Um, and I'm loving the fact that, you know, people obviously are giving me a second chance. But I mean, I feel like some of this is true, like do you feel like? We don't know if it's true or not, but it sounds like I feel like when you see I never want to I was not there. I was not personally there, but I think you can tell by the level of how upset a lot of these women are and also the level that other women are going to protect something bad wine and the fact that it's happened when they were off camera. And then people are like if also when they were in the Sprinter van, why weren't cameras on? I want to point out something. When, I don't know if you guys are the same, when we break for the night, they don't leave the cameras in your car. In a sprinter, people will steal the equipment. So, like, if you go down, they take the cameras out. Well, we all saw that. Well, in the house at least. Yeah, they left the cameras up in the house. Not Not a sprinter, but in the house. See, we don't have Beverly Hills doesn't have that. Well, you remember the epic stripper. Yeah, Beverly Hills has never, never had cameras up, and that if a producer isn't their cameras aren't rolling. Yeah, see, that was what was so crazy about that season. That was season what thirteen, because no one ever in the history experienced that. So when the producers left, no one knew that they left the cameras and the audio. Yeah, which was crazy. That I mean. Well, that's like girls trip. Yeah, I mean, which that makes for good TV, but also a lot of drama, especially it's happening. So we'll never know safe to say. We'll never know safe. Oh, this is another real doozy. So, Shannon Badoer, you watch OSI, of course. Okay, so Shannon Badoer's ex husband calls office divorce. Last week, Tam. Well, Tam wasn't with me, but last week I reported that he filed for divorce for reconcilable differences. And then Leslie, who one? Why did she have to tag this three times? Like why? Why? Why? So she tags it three times and she said, my husband filed a request for dismissal a few days ago. Now back to your regular scheduled performing programming. But then she tagged herself three times, and that's solely because she wants to know that anyone that picks this up is going to post her name. And I'm like, and listen, I'm as dehydrated as they come, but like, that is next level. I'M ANA only tag ship once, like three times, but she needs a little water. I mean, you know, but this is what happens. I mean, but she's never even been on the show and I'm sorry, you're not going to be on the show, honey, and then somebody posted. What is this? Honey? Leslie Badour claims her husband, David Badour, has withdrawn his divorce petition after filing the paper last week, but public information officer for the Superior Court of California in Orange County tells page six there hasn't been any requests to dismiss at this time. The spokesource and also verified on Wednesday that request was in the queue to be filed, as there was also no evidence of the alleged dismissal request in the case docket per online records. I need another drink after that, like don't you if you're in the world of housewives in any capacity and on the public form, people are going to sleuth it out, publish records. Just yeah, storyline, like it's a giving storyline. Is it giving? Like there's you're still not friends with anybody on the current cast. You're not coming in, you're taking Shannon spot. People really go all out, like it's it's real life. People like people want your reality. You don't have to go this far, especially when you're not even on the show. But you know what, there are people in Atlanta. It's hot like people have actually moved in my neighborhood just to have a run in with me, to rump to producers, like we heard so and so lives in your and I'm like they do, and I'm like, I just thought she was a nice neighbor. So, I mean, I understand, but the lengths people go to, it's it's pretty ridiculous to me. I mean it's a little bit. Now I gotta Watch I go to the bus stop. I used to go out my bonnet and my clear still, like you know, and I gotta be fabulous when I go to the bus stop just in case this white strip and I'm here. All right, let's take a little break and then we will talk about the actual episode. Okay, so we are back to discuss the actual episode. Now I feel like the housewife. Headlines is a full time job just putting them all together. So going on all the time, so many everybody doing the most on social media. Um. So it starts off with Renna is in shock about what happened at the club with Kathy, and then Kathy won't come out of her room, which to me I was like, did she ever come out of the room with she's in her room with her fan alone like she that's this isn't uncommon to me. Um, and then Kyle can already feel that she's going to take the blame, which made me sad. I mean, I think what what we have to I have to say as a precursor to this is I understand that these two women are sisters. They have, you know, a lifetime worth of drama and trauma and who knows what else has gone on in their relationship. But we've watched, even publicly, just the ups and downs of it. But as I review this, I have to separate the fact that how much I, you know, Love Kyle and how anyone that hurts her and separate the fact that this is her sister. I have to look at it just as two cast mates on the show, or else I can't even recap it because, um, but we saw how upset Kathy was about the eight one eight last week and made it all about Kyle, so I can only imagine what the next thing was. Yeah, UM, then they're they're all crammed on that private jet again. Such a set up, such a setup, like you know. So it's not surprising, you know, that then we got Erica, and Erica comes on and she says Erica tells sutton she doesn't want to fight with her. When she screams, it's out of anger and Sutton cries from being moved by Erica. I'm so confused with relationship. I feel like we've been here before. At this point, I feel like I I just want Sutton to be who she is and her confessionals and scene. But you know what, it's really hard because I I relate to sutton. It's hard when you feel like you're having a gang up situation and I feel like Sutton is often placed in those positions where it feels like everyone's coming at her. But and so those are unwarranted. I just feel like Sutton doesn't always pick the best words and like I feel like I understand what she's trying to say just to come out that way. So I feel like she's misunderstood and I feel like people need just to have a little grace and she needs support because I feel I could honestly watch and see her crumbling as she feels like all this heat come in her way, you know what I mean? And that's just what I take. So when she's in her confessional, she's by herself and she's giving, but in those moments I just feel like everyone's so up and down with her. Yeah, I mean I think ultimately, and I mean I'm judgmental as well, but I think her level of judginess wears off. You know, like what what what makes it hard for me is if you're on a show where you know that it's to create drama, there's nothing worse than being with a housewife that's like, guys, let's all get along right now, like you know why you're here. You signed up for this job. Not only did you not get your dime in your first year, you then step chup of your game and now you're here, so double down. And I still can't get with that because I'm the girl that's like, can we all get along, like one time, can we just have fun? And I understand it's the assignment right, but it's like a lot sometimes. I feel like Sutton gets it a lot more right, but then you will go have fun. When have we seen Sun was she shopping? When, Um, that one time with Rena and they went to the fact that you have to say that one time, that one time she was fun in the three years her and Garzella have fun her and Garcella have fun moments. I like their little key moments. I really do. You know what I'm saying? I live for their little moment. I love. I love Garcella on the show. I do. I loved. I think she does good show. I I think she's funny all the and she will say things and seeing that you know she's shady and her confessionals and she's funny, but she still will. But what I did notice, especially this episode, is any time that garcelle admits to being in the wrong, she shuts that down real quick. She is and immediately I'm sorry, you're right time because she doesn't want that storyline about her and she does it very well. I'm actually learning mark shut it down forever. She shuts it down quickly, which is great for her, but also not great for the fact that we are still on the Erica Jane storyline another season. We're two years inter but it's so much there and it's so juicy and I I want to I still have so many questions. I mean it's never ending. We're just getting started. I feel like yeah, so then you know Cathy isn't on the plane. Uh, Sutton said she had a breakdown in the club because nobody wanted to do the Congo Line Um, which, here's the part that I find interesting, is this isn't really the truth because it I never heard anything about any Congo line. I do like that at this moment, Sutton is at least owning up to the fact that there was a breakdown at the club, whereas like crystals, pretending she didn't see it. But it was because she went up to the DJ and asked him to play Billy Jean, and he you know, you know how djs are, especially famous djs, when they're in the middle of a set. They don't want some random or or even some famous socialite, it doesn't matter, coming and telling them what to play. So he said no and that set her off. She wanted that Vibe, she needed that song, she had moves, she wanted to leave on that floor. Yeah, and then, you know what they're also not really saying is, because people love the narrative to hate Renna is Renna was being nice by taking cathy out of the situation, because she was blowing up not only on the DJ, on everybody involved and flipping out in the same way that Renna took Erica out of the situation when she was losing her ship. I was doing the same thing here, because you have to also remember this isn't being filmed. Renna doesn't gain anything from getting her out and like like. No, I think. I think that she gains some trust and some good points with some people. I can go easy on her on the confessionals, well, I don't. I don't. I guess I can see that, but I think it's more just like one. Renna doesn't really like to stay out late in party and to, you know, stuff and to like she's seeing somebody come unhinge and she's seeing who, somebody she loves, Kyle, getting reamed out at a club because, once again, the fact that the DJ won't play a song that Kathy wants. It's Kyle's fault again, and I'm like, are we really is this really an issue? ME, personally, I'm like wait, what, this really isn't are we really doing this, guys? So the fact that things get that ugly over not playing, I mean, you didn't get that upset when your husband was accused of cheating on you, like you thank you. So we're I don't know. You see what I'm saying. I think there's some imbalances here and I think the the walls are starting to come down and I think, yeah, and I think you know it's a little bit rough, but all the women were present except Garcell and Shari were not at the club. Just want to make that clear, because this wasn't filmed. Garcella and Shari saw none of it. However, crystal was there. So I don't know why, when we flashed forward to the end of the episode, Why Crystal is acting like she didn't see it happened. Once she was supposed to go in the car and couldn't get her cop from coach check. She called the sprinter for Renna and Kathy and the only thing I can think is crystal's probably of the group the most socialite and she doesn't want to not get that Kathy Hilton Christmas party and he and I felt like since crystal came on the show she's always been very protective, like of her her family, you know, her husband. She's one that's kind of like, I want to just remain, you know, clean, as clean as but she didn't when it came to Erica. She was thrilled to be thrown that immediately into the into the fire. Yeah, but I just still, out of all the ladies, though, I feel like she's the most clean. Well, I think. I don't think she wants to mess with her relationship with Kathy, but she was a there Um. So you see something. The fact that Sutton even admitted it a little bit shows how bad it actually was, because Sutton's going to tell the truth. One thing you know. Sutton's gonna tell it as much as she can. Yeah, she's gonna tell it as much as she can. She may not go into the detail and maybe maybe there was a mention of a Congo line, but that's not what I heard from anybody else. Um. Then renaissays Cathy was saying she would take down the show, Bravo, ruin you all and destroy Kyle and her family. It's the last thing she does, which what I can't even imagine my sister justice being saying something like that about me. And where I think people started to get up in arms was when and Rena's confessional, she says something along the lines of like Kathy is jealous because Kyle is the more famous one, and people were like no, she's not. Everybody knows the name Kathy Hilton. I agree, everybody knows the name Kathy Hilton, but here's the difference that people aren't actually recognizing. Kathy has been married into the Hilton family, started dating him when she was fifteen years old and it is a very it's a different situation when you marry into a family and they have the money than it is when you make your own. So I think, in my opinion, Kathy has full, I mean Kyle has full financial freedom. Her and Mauricio are self made, whether it's through the show or not, and have that financial ability, whereas you know, I looked up on line and you know, there's One Hilton in highland. How many agencies are there? See? That's so interesting. That's an interesting perspective because I definitely always looked at Cathy as like I don't really care, she just has this like nonchalant I'm here, or maybe I'm not here and I'm I'm fabulous over here. I never thought about the fact that she may actually want a desire the spotlight or to have her own independence. I mean, did you have to think about it? Like I was the most miserable I ever was in my marriage with Edwin when I didn't have a job and I would have he wouldn't. He would come home from work and he'd be like what do you do today, and I was pissed that he'd even ask me that question with the kids. I'd be like I did this and that, and he'd be like Oh, would. Where'd you guys go for lunch? And I'd be like Sushi? Why? Like it was so defensive and he wasn't even being a jerk, he was trying to talk to me. But because I didn't have my own financial yeah, I felt like I had to like validate myself to him, and I get that. So I'm the same way. Like I definitely because I've been independent my whole life. So obviously, when I had children I couldn't work anymore. It was hard because I became financially dependent on my husband. But I'm not that type of girl. But I and I don't know Kathy, but from the outside I felt like she was just like a kept woman. That because I do have friends that love being kept. I always thought Kathy was a kept woman and she loved being kept. I think that you can love being kept, but you can also admire which then can turn into jealousy that it's not that way. I mean you have to understand it. There are times, at being an independent woman and making my own money myself, that I'm like, this is a lot of work, I wish I could. Yeah, always it's like if you have straight hair, you want hair. You want what you don't have, you want. But the tricky part is that this is her sister. Yeah, and and and Kyle and Marico worked really hard and, whether you like it or not, your sister was the beginning of this show and she wanted you on because she loved you and she wanted something that you wanted. It's not like Kathy didn't want you. Don't go on that show. If you don't want to because you're forced. There's no one holding a gun to your head saying you have to go on the real housewives of Beverly Hills, it's because you were missing something. Wow, whether you want fame, validation, money, whatever it is. I mean, is that not why you joined the show? I mean, I definitely I wanted to do something different from my family, you know, and build legacy, but there are women that try to find identity on the platform. I just never saw Kathy as that. So, to your point what you've been saying, it's very it's a very sticky place because now we are just seeing the beginning of what could happen because, like you said, jealousy and all that. It's not going to end well and we're gonna have to watch that. Yeah, I mean because I believe the line was Rennas says I have seen the devil and her name is Kathy Hilton. Um, I can't believe you think it, feel it, say it about the things Kathy said, like I I you can. I think that Rena is a good actress. I don't think she's this good of an actress. I think she was shook by the things that were said and done. And listen, it's not that I have huge issue with Kathy. I have huge issue with anybody that pretends to be somebody that they're not. Like my o C D and my like type A, like, I I need to see you who who you are. And you know, I joke with my husband repeatedly, like he sees everybody as their best self. That's me, like he sees the light and everybody and I I think because of like the way I grew up and like I see the worst first and then you have to earn my trust. You have to earn it. That is Ralph. So yeah, type A, Ralph's type A in it and the way he was brought up, it is a tough thing to trust, but I do. I see people's potential always, so I'm always looking at them as that. So, you know, that's that's I can relate to. It went in that in that regard. But I just feel bad because, like, at the end of the day, Um, you know, this is the spiral that we're witnessing and when you put out words like that, the devil it's not going to get better anytime soon. Yeah, it was. It's pretty brittle. Um, then it's a lot about durt playing both sides with Erica and Kyle. How did you feel about I don't like it. I don't like it. I feel like, well, I'm big on loyalty, so I was really shocked to even see Kyle and Durte at it anyway, because Dorit has been super loyal and they have been, you know, basically bffs tied to the hip. So this was different and I'm trying to find understanding in in Erica and deret because last season we saw derite and Kyle, P K right ICO, and they were all like teaming injury. was constantly last week talking about the orphans and the victims and the like. She she was the one, she was the one leading it. But this is I think it's because she really is trying to play both sides. She I think this is the problem I'm having. I love to read. I say this before I say anything negative about her, because she is one of my friends. But dried is trying to be the voice of reason and she's not a voice of reason. Don't you know what had to be? Don't try to be something you're not like. It's not working. It's making you look super messy, super backstabby, to to Kyle, you know, untrustworthy. It's just it's not a good look. So I you know. And then you see this is you know, Erica starts to make good points, but she makes them with the tone in her voice. Is it just it makes you sleepy. Hold on, did you did you hear the difference in her voice between her first season when they did the flashback? Yes, because Carlos King, actually, I know if you watch this podcast, was speaking to that. You know, when she first came in hi, but then I started thinking. I'm like, Oh, this is when she was a Stepford wife. Think about it. She came on and everything was perfect and this is my great life. And now she's she's tired. She's tired. She Ain't got time to put on a show anymore. We it's no longer expensive to her be her. It's exhausting. She still looks good, you know, but on the inside she is sleepy, tems to go to night. And then she did h one of those after shows with deride where she definitely gave the business a little bit to Garcel. She's like, you know, I I don't want to sit there and at every event, talk about my earrings and do this and Blah, blah blah, especially when it comes to Garcel's canceled television show. was like yes, I mean it was canceled, but the shade of it all, like I think she's gone to the point where she's like, if you can dish it out, you can take it. Because then when she confronted Garce sell and said, listen, you know, we we are close, we are friends, not we're clothes, but we had a good time together, I thought we'd moved past this. You didn't mention anything to me about the real and Garcella knew she'd done up, because then she didn't even Yep. You're right. Sorry, I mean, but at the end of the day, when your show gets canceled, is that's something that you're like? No, but the fact that she talked about the earrings on the show and didn't say anything to Erica when they were I didn't necessarily think they were bonding and I didn't believe I was like they are coexisting, coexisting, which we do, which you do, but I don't look at them and get this warm fuzzy field. I don't. So I wouldn't even have the expectation. Um, then we get to shri adding her name to the highlight with highlighter to Garcela's Card for Crystals Party. But honestly, was the crystals party or crystal's funeral? It was the most oppressing birthday. That was worse than you're the one in Atlanta who had it. Was it Sonia Oh says, Part Day party, the Party City Party. It was. It was dreadful. It was dreadful. It was and I know you can't have music on housewives but it was like everybody looked like they were board and uncomfortable and you could tell when Kathy entered she was nervous. She was like Shit, and then she comes over like there Eric's like talking about like I went and drove and sat outside my old house and Blah, blah, like she's getting emotional, as emotional as Erica gets on that end. You know she can yell, but seeing like that type of emotion, and then Kathy walks up and she's like so, do you overline your lip or what lip for? It was like that was the comic relief. That was probably the best I know. But you don't think that. That's all part of the that's what that's what she's trying to give, as opposed to coming in and being like I would feel completely different about the situation if she came in and said, Hey, guys, I was such an ASS soall in Vegas. I wasn't expecting that. If I'm an as like after I was an Asshole in Provence, the next day woke up in a puddle of shame and said I am so sorry, you guys, like I was an asshole. I wouldn't expect it, though, not from meant certain things from certain people. You know, I her to go in and pretend that nothing happened. Well, that's just I just felt like that was being true to self. For me, I wasn't expecting it. She did exactly what I expected. Right, but do you think that that's the right way to know? That's not me. But see, that's not me. But some people, like you said, they're not able to be their authentic self and they kind of and I believe that she's done so many of those types of things that people love that she's leaning into that. Yeahs herself. Yeah, the quirkiness. So I'm like, okay, here we go again, you know, I'm just waiting for somebody to call it out. And then at the Twenties Party, Renna says she has PTSD. That was yeah, I was that's a big word. Um, that's the that's the word, though, that's the word trauma. Um. And then Crystal Criticizes Sutton as not being twenties. Um, and then, you know, whatever, the energy is off at the entire Party. Um. Then this is now I need to ask because I don't want to show my bias, but when crystal comes back and acts shocked to the group why Renna left when one she was just hugging Renna and in that moment, I know I can tell that you're not fully team Renna, as you'd gulp your champagne out of a wine glass, but I can feel it. But she just had the conversation. You know what happened. You know why she was upset. So why are you pretending you don't if you're going to come back and to liver news? Like she sat down, like she's like. So she's upset, like she saw a ghost. I have no idea why. I'm like, you know exactly why. She just told you hello. But back to protecting, right to protecting. That's what I I that's what I see. So, I mean, you know, here we go, here we go, Um, and then that's when Renna delivers her line about I have seen the devil and her name is Cathy Hilton. Um. And then something that I've seen online, as people are saying, why isn't Renna, Rennyng here like why isn't she going off like in her normal terms? And you tell me your opinion first. Why do you think Renna isn't going off? In this moment? She's removing herself. Yeah, you gotta. I'll tell my reason why I want to hear your because you know, you know them. No, but I want to hear your unbiased, non hearing Teddy's opinion. I just feel like Renna has been in a tight spot and I just feel like she's cleaning up. See, I think she's not rendating because she's also scared. Okay, so we agree. Oh my God, I'm cleaning up, like you need to fix something. I think she's not just but not scared because of the audience. I think everybody's scared of the wrath of Kathy Hilton. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, like the wrath of Kathy Hilton is scarier than the wrath of Lisa Rerenna. Lisa Renna may go off on her social media, but there's like different types of Brath. But then I also saw Rena watch what happens live and Renault was like, I mean, I mean, I mean, she was completely falling on the sward and I was like what, because, oh my God, I mean, I'm just trying, guys, I mean, forgive me forgetting, like no, but it's not that easy, man. I think it's hard after a certain amount of years and you get the heat. It just you know that it starts to it starts to happen, Um, and then what else goes on in this happen if you oh to me like Diana. The fact that I'm even saying Diana's name now after forty five minutes, so much she's a part of which I think she's got to be gone, right if you're fully edited out of the episodes at this point. I was never a Diana fan, though. Yeah, and honestly so, Um, but she so I thought you're holding up, and I also feel like they're editing her out more too, because the fans were just so. But also know what she's doing. A lot of lawsuits. Yeah, and that back to your don't if you're a housewife, don't do laws. Right. Yes, but Diana says Kathy was raging at the club. She'd never seen her like this. Erica just wants Kathy to admit her behavior, apologize and move on. And then Renna says it got worse. Um, and then Diana. I actually didn't mind Diana in this moment. She starts quacking and calling uh, calling Renna a chicken for not bringing it up. But you have to remember there is backstory between Kyle and Renna and her sisters. So she's in her in her defense. I don't think that Renna thought she was going to go home and it was going to be to the point that Kathy Hilton slamming things, breaking her glasses and losing her ship about her sister and after what was allegedly reported to be set at the club about the DJ, like all of those things. I don't think she was ready for that and I think that you're whenever anything happens off camera. I mean even Salt Lake City. Think about that hot mic moment. Like I don't think Lisa Barlow really felt what she was saying about Meredith. She was losing her ship to producers, as we do at times, at which we all do, but I stn't know that I go to that level and say those things. But the fact that there's no cameras, there's no nothing, and Renna had to take that and carry it on her own Um. And then, yeah, then Erica fails to eat and about what happened with Renna and Kathy after the club. And then Erica said be careful of those who have a lot to protect. And then dery says the person who will suffer the most is kyle. And Yeah, then previous for next week are pretty mess hair. Um, the Kyle, Kathy, you're going to sit down. Can wait. You can see it in Kathy's face in that moment when she's like Kyle, Kyle, it's coming out, it's coming out. Um. The tone is like don't blow this here or you're gonna pay. I'm scared, I'm scared. What, what? What's coming? And then that was pretty much the episode. I think there was some fill in this episode and I don't know how much we'll ever find out. Well, I don't feel like we'll ever get to the bottom of it. I think we won't get to the bottom of all the things that were said until the reunion. I think then there'll be some accusations, but they're still there. Will never be proof. Um, the questions from hands. All right, so I'll ask you. Would you guys agree with Renna that Kyle is more successful than Kathy? Lots of people on twitter we're making jokes about Kathy Hilton is way richer than Kyle, but I took it as in terms of career, which Kyle has definitely made a name for herself outside of her husband much more than Kathy. This is twitter. You guys. I did not say this. I already gave my point of view. Disclaim. Honestly, I feel like, you know, as far as career goes in independence, obviously kyle, but I feel like as far as the wealth, Kathy Hilton, you know, I feel like they gotta go tea for tea. It's Kathy all day. Well, we also have to keep in mind we really don't know anybody's net worth. It's all network and I was like I would where showed me the money. I had it up and it said sixteen million. I was like, Damn, I don't know that. I'd be podcast if I had that network. Listen, I would be on a beach somewhere with my net sixteen million. And then I started looking at Ed when I'm like, what's in your bank account? Together I was like we're sixteen millions on the Internet. Um, and then Um Teddy. So I have a question. Are you privy to Kathy Hilton enjoying a good old I have never done a Congo line. I've gone to a bunch of Kathy's parties and what I have seen that she loves doing is prank phone calling and she's prank phone called the same person for like years, like she loves it. Everyone sits around and we listen to her prank phone calling. And she loves Karaoke. So those two things I have witnessed. I've never been a part of a Congo line, but you never know. She's venturing with things. And then do you. We already talked about that. Um. Oh. And lastly, for drew, as someone who has a large team, how do you know the people around you, especially new employees, aren't looking for their fifteen minutes? Oh my God, by the way, drew is here with a team. I mean she's got one. She has Ralph here, who we're going to get into with Edwin Shortley. She has Ralph here, and there's an additional person, yes, my good old manager, George Robert Fuller. I mean you know, so the team is important. You know when they say team work makes the dream work, and there's no I in team. Clap it up for the team, you know. You know what I'm catching a lot of. I'm about to be sending text messages to my manager, like I don't see you here. I was laying it myself for KT l a last not slaying it. You know, it's a good team. I'm grateful, but it is very, very scary. You know, I was just having this conversation with candy about, you know, the people that will come around and appear to be for you and want to be there to help you and just really get on camera and like completely. So from what I've learned, you need to actually ask Ralph if they're good people, because we trust either we see the worst in everybody and they see and you guys see the best. My husband similar, like I have to go to job interviews with him and I'm like you're absolutely not hiring that person. Like how could you possibly think that? That is I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, but we're all fies put in like processes now, like background checks, and like Oh, we gotta, we gotta get into that, because I do have some questions regarding those things. So on watch what happens live. They do a work the polls game. Do you think Cathy's meltdown was as bad as when it claims? Of course, Garcella Says No. We'll never know because she wasn't there. And as much as I love Garcel as much as I love Sutton. They pander to twitter. They do. They know what their fans want and they will be giving on twitter. They will. Um Dere says yes, she does think Kathy had a little bit of the meltdown. Um, and the audience is saying no, because once again, if you don't see it, yeah, you're gonna you choose your favorite. Um. Should of Garcel given Erica heads up about the real dereit says she thinks she should have. Garcella Says No. I say no, you say no, I say I mean you sure just got canceled. I'm not running to go and tell but at this point it had not been canceled when they were in Aspen. She had talked about it a week prior on the show. Then she goes to Aspen. Has that coexisting to Erica, though? I don't see it for Erica. But that is my point, which is always the point, which is fine. Whenever Garcella is talking about Erica, it's not out of concern, it's not because she's trying to be a friend and not trying to connect, because she wants she's going to throw her ship around because then she doesn't have to talk about her own stuff, which is fine, which I don't mind it, but that's what it is, Um. So I say no, what do you say? So you say yes, she should have uh, I think it's if it's going to come back to bite your masks. But she shuts it down so quickly when she is confronted. She's a champ at it. So she doesn't have to. She don't want to be involved in the drama. She can carry it Um. And then people asking about treat being a flip flopper, stuck in the middle. Then Andy asked another shady boots question where he says to Garcel do you still think that you are closer to Kathy Than Kyle and Kathy are? And Garcella says yes. Would you also have to imagine the magnitude of this? And I also want you to think. Could you image if Renna said that? RENNA would be burned at the stake like but Garcela can get away with it, just like Garcela can get away with calling herself iconic. I can't these iconic, I know, but let other people call you iconic. You call it a self iconic. And she was in coming to America. So it's like, you know, I get it, get to wear that crown, that crown around. I live for a moment. Like, you know, put some respect on my name. You gotta sometimes let people know. See, I am just not that way. I'm happy. Granted, no one's ever calling me iconic, ever, but like your iconic. Say it, say your chest, the Teddy. I. You know I'm messy, but I I you'll own the messy, but not I. Just I don't like. I also don't call people. I also wouldn't like call myself a queen, like I'm just not that. I don't have that in me. You got to, though, I got to. You gotta Say Your Queen. Say it. I can't. Honestly, I'm read. I taking out Rosatia, like I can't do it. I'm flushed. But then what we the part that we that made me sad, and I said this on my instagram, was to read's ability to completely shade Kyle repeatedly through out. Watch what happens by like I want to understand because I know we were all hanging out, I mean this year, last year at this time, we were in Vegas together watching my dad perform, having the best time. So I've seen them at their closest and I feel like this year you're seeing every chance that dreck gets she's throwing kyle under the bus and because she knows Kyle's not having the best season. Yeah, and I don't and I don't like a strategic to read. I like a you know, like just the free flowing, free flowing making mistakes, never shed a tear to read. Looking beautiful. But reunion is going to be juicy, because then we'll understand why she was going so hard. Yeah, because, I mean she every chance she got, she she took it. So that's really where we are, and that is so much, so much. Yeah. So that is end of this portion. But let's take a little break and then let's talk to the husband. I'm the heavy race. Guys, we were just talking. We're here now with Ralph Pittman Jr. Thank you. Not to be confused. Not to be confused, and Edwin Ari Ave just on his own. My husband and we were talking about she's said something. What did you even say that brought it up? Who knows? We're a couple of champagne thing to Tequila, and I said you wouldn't let me drink on the show, but you want me to drink now. Okay, so I'm going to give you guys a little tea on why he had to stop drinking on the show, which I've never said because I didn't want him to be hated, but now, obviously I don't care anymore. I also thought we were going to be perfect back in the day and we're just not. Um. So our first filmed date, this is gonna make you feel better, rough, because I feel like this is some ship you would do our very first film date. You know how they give you like talking points, so like talk about if you'd have another baby or talk about whatever, and Edwin was so nervous, like and when Edwin gets nervous, he gets into like a full sweat, like he can't play it off. So he's decided he's going to drink Tequila. But like, when I say Tequila, it's not like US drinking the champagne right now. It's to the point where, like, I feel like the at this point, you drink. What did you drink back then, Cassim goes, you weren't. We weren't nineteen at the time. I remember because you filled my nine water. Yeah, because I was pissed and I was pissed because she watered down my nine. I was well, once you hear what happened, because they saved us, because you know, men just say and you watch all of them, don't just say dumb shit like don't say that. So anyways, one of the talking points is when are you going to have another kid? And also, Edwin focusing while filming is like a real struggle, like so it's like we're at a date. Everyone's looking at us and he's like, oh my gosh, it's just pounding drinks and they're like can you get through the talking points? And I'm like you have to ask you have to ask me about the kids. Just asking about the kids, and he's like so do you think you want to have any more kids? And I'm like, you know, I don't know. I never say never, and he goes, but then you get all big word yes, he did. I we have issues having sex because I'm not, as you know, worse where you worse, and I am like sitting there and I'm like what in the hell do I actually do right now? I kicked him under the table and I started and I was like, because I'm like I've got a lot of this isn't kissing me up because also, like, I've struggled with weight my entire life. I understand. And I was like the fact that one he would think this is a funny thing just and I'm like it's because he thinks he's being funny, but he's not funny. Yeah, so, wow, that's interesting because that sounds like something my husband actually say, because it's the same sentiment. And I'm happy. Do you know that? It's not just you, Mab, but it's like men. They get on camera and I'm like who is this person? Like, quit trying to tell jokes. You're funny to laugh at. You're not a funny person. Yeah, like you're not a comedian, I'm not. I'm meanwhile, I'm saying I'm like, Oh my God, it is so hard to film because you say things you can't take it back and it's like why did you just say that on camera? And then if you fight in that moment, like my my natural response in real life was like go yourself, like what do you of course I'm carrying a baby, and like I'm sorry that, like, your penis isn't as turned on by me in that moment your child, because I'm carrying your child and I'm miserable. But Um, and also like don't just the word big pisses me off, all the things Um. But instead I sat there and I laughed because I was like I don't want to make a big deal of it, and I'm thinking, if they air this and it's me just laughing at my but housewives messed up is if we would have had car camps that night, they would have gotten a whole show, because I got in the car and I was like you will never film with me again you do that like the my Erica Jane came out like and I was like I cannot, absolutely not. You will never drink on camera again. You are cut off like rage. And I waited all season long for them to air it and they didn't because I was they wanted people to like me my first season and like him. Oh well, that's I would take your hand any day. That's the way to start out because, like for us, they were like we're gonna cut every bad thing. We're like, we didn't have chance. I know, I knew you were gonna I knew you were going to go there. Yeah, she took the moment and was like yeah, well, yeah, because that was my real response. I mean I had I faked it. I should have, but I didn't know. Like here's the thing, in hindsight it would have been a much more because that is things that I think men do say to women in real life. But I was so wanting to be perfect and wanting to give the illusion that we were perfect that I was editing myself, Teddy. That's what we're opposites in that. So I've lived the other way and I can't say it's much better on the other side. We literally lived just being so realist one like, you know what, there could have been a better way I could have responded, because by me responding in that real way is two seasons of us just having storylines of just marital issues upon marital issues. So oftentimes Ralph has said like could you have responded differently, and I'm like, I wish I could rewind and be, you know, take a page out of your book. What I mean, I do have to ask one question. This is my one shady question. Okay, what's really for Edwin? But and if you say yes, you're actually going to be dead, like actually there will be women who kill episode and I'll be the start, have you ever asked an assistant to give you a massage? No, Rabb how in the right answered. I need to understand, and I love you. He does dumb other ships, like even if he hurts somebody's message. I'm like you, absolutely do not put a heart Emoji because the heart means, you know, like even the heart a message. No, don't respond to D m. So my question is I need to know, and you're I need to know that did you have a background and massage therapy? So, so, I never asked her to give me a massage. That never really been asked. Thing ever didn't didn't happen. She Or said she should have given you a massage. So Laham Talk. Sorry, Miss Producer, but the reality is. The reality is is that I never I never asked her to give me a massage. That never actually took place. What happened was I was having some real bad back issues. Little literally he could barely walk. He was gonna be hospitalized. So, yeah, instead of asking a professional, so we're not available. So No, no, so she actually so, this is my assistant at the time. She actually sent a massage therapist to my house that was licensed and she came and gave me a massage. I just could not find one. But my sister. I never asked my sister to give me a massage. That never happened. So you know, I took care of the situation, got the massage I needed, got the CBD oil rubbed on me the way I needed to, and I was back in motion. That too. You know, I'm taking care of business. But then, what is the text that created all the drama? The text that created all the dramas when she said that I should have well, she said I should have gave you more a massage, and that was it. But in your opinion, do you think she was flirting with you? In my opinion, Oh God, look at the eyes, Jesus, and I have to say I'm a little bit upset. I never got a visual on the show. Can you show me? Okay, yeah, I need visuals of every human being found you fast. I mean she's like you know, she can she can find anything. And I have to ask you a question. If you were to actually, if she were really to hit the fan with I talked about the Swed one too, would you prefer whoever your husband were to step out with be attractive or unattractive. Oh my God, she better be a bad one. I will be like, oh no, she better be hot. Right, that's hot, that is hot, that is hot. Yeah, English is my second legged bad one is a hottie. She's a yeah, you need a chance, because it's like, I mean, if you do this, is disrespectful to me, like really, see, I'm the opposite. I want the person to be slightly dog heinous, because I want to know it's just my husband's like insecurity issues, like trying to feed something, and like I want to be like, well, obviously, like she can't top this. I want to be like, don't degrade me in that way. But I did read something with all hates when I say that women are wife material versus dating material. Not dating material, but like wanna don't sugarcoat it, okay, like there's a difference between a girl that you just want to f versus somebody, somebody want to marry. Okay, and this kisses me typically the girls that I've that I've wanted to F I did not want to marry, but he'll always like I knew, I knew you were the one because you were wife material. Go kick rocks, Dude, wife material. White material, and I'm like, so the girl that I found online that you dated before me, that was part of the Texas Round Up. I did not know that round up. Just so you know, like I'm you really came up with me, like I was like we were fighting about something back in a million years ago, and I was like, and he goes, the reason that we got married is because your wife material. You're and like he's using as a compliment, but I'm like, I also feel like it's not a compliment, like you're not saying I'm hot, because life sounds like Yo, she's UH. And then, yeah, wifey, like I'm going to Tuck you in the bed and medicine. Good night night. But so then I took I took the liberty to Google. Yeah, like, wifey, you were going to go to dinner and you know, it's the worst thing you could say, but what if somebody you want to stay with the then I started quizzing, like who else's wife material? And he'll like name people and I'm like, Teddy, that was a set up, though. I'm like not what, like he didn't say Jennifer Lopez. I don't like it. I want to be like all those would be everything. I thought wifey was everything, like j Lo on down. Yeah, you know what I mean. Wife. He's like, you know, you're you're okay for her to show up to the PTA meeting. Yeah, like, what's the worst thing that you have ever said about drew on housewives? His worst thing to me that got aired was everybody went around and said, what's your favorite thing about your significant other? Do you want to know what Ed one said about me? I was ready for anything, funny, hot, good and bad, any any kind of compliment, and Ricio went first. So of course his was like a love Diet tribe to kyle first, which is I mean I would have gone, but trying to imagine the first possible thing somebody could say about you as a compliment. Okay, he said, Um, she's organized. It is a great quality. It's a great quality's organized. That sounds like a compliment to okay, I'm trying to really compliment all of that. So organized, because why, please, get she plans. Her tripped, she's just planning. Oh, it's not sexy. swoon. She's a planner. I've never been a planner. So she's you know, she compliments that F and I like that. I think there's a lot of value. And so I can't say that because he says she's not organized. So I wish I was more organized, because he's like, but if he said that was your best quality and I can't wait to go home and make life to my wifee. That's organized in our organized house, Baby, well organized wife, say, because you said okay, I mean it's not. Doesn't get much better. Yeah, I mean, remember what? I don't know, the one where you're I'm like they what am I? Good? Well, you said two disrespectful things, the lunchables being one. Well, tell me about the lunchables. I forget when he told me I didn't deserve like steaking lobster, but I deserved lunchables. Yeah, was that supposed to be a joke, because I thought we were having a good time? Said shot to kill. Where is it? Where is it? Laugh so that he doesn't have to like no, no, no, think about it. Let me tell you. Let me let you guys in on something. When you hand, he's trying to sell you on it. So if you see the hand going and he's like, I'm about to sell you, foremost lunchables is not a bad thing at all, and we my four year old, my four year olds for lunch. But I need to know is that the lunchable with like the Turkey and the cheese, or the lunchable ty and Turkey and cheese the best with the pieces like you got to make it the right way and stack it up, you know, put piece of cheese Turkey in the middle. You can make it a double. You know. Oh my God, a little. So were you trying to be funny there? Yeah, I thought it was. I don't know, I'm I don't know. My humor sometimes could come across the wrong way, but I did think, you know, it was. I gave drew this amazing he's adding a lot of words and it's a lot of it's a little wordy. I gave drew dry. I gave you this amazing, amazing, amazing dinner where I went all out for I had a Tuxedo on this night. You know, I saw it over it. You know, I mean you guys are experiencing it live. Not It's not gaslighting, but literally. Well, I'm gonna asking about the definition after we don't even know what gains. I just found because guys are so good at it, I looked at the definition I was like, Oh, this is my life. But no, I thought then, you know, I gave her this great night and I just told her that, you know, instead of the staking laughter and she I should have gave her a lunchable. And then it was a lunchable coming. One seems to have understanding on that. You see it right. She started crying and was upset. He wasn't crying conseling session. He brought it up like I had never heard that before. It's all the delivery in an hour. I was smiling her. Give it to me, look at me in my eyes and give it to me the way you gave it to her. No, you weren't smiling. I know all your pearly whites today. It was it was just, it was it was just a statement, you know. It wasn't something that was supposed to hurt anyone's feelings or anything like that. It was a throwaway like hey, you know what, I gave you all of this right here at that moment. It probably wasn't the best, you know. So you said, I gave you all these things that you actually deserve, eligible because it was like all the eyebrows and everything, but which one up? You don't get Botox. I just told him that I was going to just stay like that. Okay, I now need to ask you, guys, what is the definition in your minds of gas lighting? Um, gaslighting? My definition is when you um take some lighter fluid and blow up your marriage. To know what is gas? I never heard of a gas until somebody using on the show. That's not a word that I've ever heard of in my life. Have you heard of it? No, okay, no, sick. This is what I mean. The wink is really a problem for gaslighting. I'll give you an example. When you Gaso late me, first day of school for the kids, I say you need to be home because they has to do is pilates class, whatever. This Day it was pilates. I remember it. I'll carry it to my grave with rage. And I say we're leaving at seven, it's the first day of school. And so I have the kids ready to all the pictures before school, excited, organized. I was gonna working on my sexiness being organized, and I have them fully ready to do the before school photos. They hold the thing like all the stuff. It's already annoying to me that he chose this day to go work out in the class when like all of these things are happening. But I let it be granted. I had the kids in the car at seven thirty five and the second that he didn't pull in that gate at seven thirty five, I was like out the door, like I was like, you know what, you go kick rocks because, like, honestly, the selfishness, I cannot but instead of him saying hey, sorry, I was late, which I checked. No, it was seven thirty nine. I checked the security footage. Yeah, we have a bone to pick with you guys. You need to have skyline, not vivent. Yes, we love N ambassadors here. So anyways, uh, then he calls me and I'm in the car with the kids and he's annoyed. He's like why would you, and that is so selfish of you to leave the first day of school and not let me see the kids. I am and I'm like one, I'm in the car with the kids, so can you kindly not talk to me in this tone and reel it in and realized that you were late. I told you the exact time and you weren't here, and then he just went on and on and on, so mad to the point he took my ring light that he knew I needed. You didn't get Patty, that my that was. Why do I always take rings? Why did they do the only one that's like this is my ring light. He doesn't let me even use that's crazy. So not only do I have at that day he took my all my stuff for the podcast, everything. Took it. It was mine first of all, but that is so quick. So you were late and then you rose up and then you took the ring light and then he took all. It was late by two minutes, which means she had like literally deliberately leave. It's testing you and you failed to test. But the fact is, instead of just saying gaslighting is instead of saying hey, babe, I'm sorry, I was like, I do think it was a little bit of an asshole move for you to leave at the second maybe you could have called me to see where I was. But, truth be told, whether he knows it or not, I have him on find my phone, so I knew exactly where he was and I was like Hey, put me on, I'll do it when he when he isn't looking. I had it. I had a comerce commission like one day Jenn and cut my friend Jen and Kyle and I were hanging out and I was like get Edwin's phone. It's code is Blah Blah, blah, Blah Blah. Let's get it on there. And then one day he's like why does I why do I have this thing? I'm like, yeah, you're on. Find my phone now, because he knows all the technology stuff ed one doesn't know how to turn it off. But I checked it and then I saw him and I was like whatever, but he never apologized. He went on and on and on for two days and then finally I had to get to the point where I had to cry and say, listen, when I was younger, people didn't show up for me, and now I need to know that, like you're when something to port and you have to show up and be on time. And that's who it is. And what did you say? Why? Just paid the bill for school. This is gas lighting things. You are wrong. GASLIGHTING is you're wrong on top of your wrong, and you're just the wrong. You're wrong gaslighting. It was a little bit of the victim on that. I was like, I just paid for this damn school. So anyway, see, you see, that's justification when you're wrong. Don't. Don't women gaslight US also, though, because for some reason I feel like in this moment here, the gaslighting is coming. That's not the topic of the table. I think the women as well. You know all the time. Really well, no, because we're gaslighting is when you're trying to pretend that something is different than what it is. We're being transparent and the fact that we are saying y'all are doing the wrong thing. We're not trying to stuggarcoat it. It was wrong for her to send a message and you know, there's a certain things you have to own. I think the owning and the following on the sport is it's missing. So didn't you just guess like me yesterday? Why? I know we're running out of time, but we need we need really trying to remember. What. What do I want to know? Yes, that we got along all day. Yes, we were eight day. We did, but like you know, so your responsive. Go ahead. No, no, you got it. You think about what you tell me, because you got it. Dr Teddy's here, reporting for reporting, here for duty. Really, I really don't remember. So you gasolate. She, guess likes me a lot, you know, every time you make an excuse about why you're late or not on time. If we're doing things, you create this whole entire song and a dance. And you're saying yesterday about the flight. Yes, you gaslate me, though, because you made it all about something else, when it really was all that moment in the car. What do you say? Go ahead, we only have two minutes left. So so we missed our flight yesterday. It wasn't my fault. My make my makeup and people on the team. They were late, which kind of then pushed us behind and my mom had surgery and I had to take her to the doctor. So the day just kind of fell behind. Um. So, yeah, so he got mad because when we got in the car, so he was telling the driver, who doesn't even know us, like yeah, it's a wife, a woman, let me tell you, man, she's making us missed our flight, and I'm sitting there like let's keep a positive attitude. I think we can still make it, you know, and I did a prayer, like let's touch and agree, but we didn't make that's that's why I went taking self at the airport, in the airport. Yeah, Tequila shots, actually. So, so, you both are a touch of gaslighters. Say. I'm not a gaslighter, I'm a manipulator. Oh well, I look at these definitions. I am aware of my behavior, but I am intentional with my words, like I think he he's not intentional. He his intent when he's upset, which rebably happens like once every six months, is to say something that like he will forget and then that night he'll come in and I'm like no, no, I'll carry this around for months understanding. Yeah, so, but like I'll never, I'll never hit, I'll never hit below the belt and say something that I can't take back. He will, and then I'll be like, I don't know. Yeah, I mean this is another podcast called a couple's therapy that you're gonna have to all join. But guys, we gotta go for a little tequila tasting. You can follow us over on Tiktok to find out which housewife beverage is our favorite. will be blindfolded, so no bias here. Thanks true for day. Thank you for having me. Thank you, rob what's your new book called? The step in parenting? Um, you guys have to get it Edwin. If you were to have a book, what would you call it awkward pod. I really want to know now. So many things came to my mind. I like that you filter, but nothing was appropriate. Well, cheers, guys. Less please download our new single already now? That's a good note. We're working together. Produced by can you see the line of it? He produced it. Um, Oh God, the lyrics. Hey, already? No, it's already. No, no, now you got to go downloaded to hear the rest. Download it. Join in you, guys. Thank you so much. We had so much fun and now we're heading to the I heart radio music festival, where we'll be nice and sloppy after all of our H

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