Tamra’s OC intro is revealed! It’s hot and it’s feisty!
The TWOTS debate which housewife is the voice of reason for ATL and the OC? Their answer will shock you.
Plus, we get the tea on who Erika Jayne’s mystery guy really is.
To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode The Twads with me and Tamra.
Before we even get into it, Tamra, I need to go straight into it. Takes a lot to actually wow me if I'm being honest.
Okay, and People dot Com dropped.
Watch Tamra Judge brass expletive filled return to Real Housewives of Orange County.
What is brash mean? Brash is like, doesn't sound like a rubble tumble.
It's not necessarily it's not the most complimentary of words.
Yeah, I noticed that, but the careful what you wish for while you're driving in the motorcycle. Be careful what you wish for.
Like, I had chills, And then it also took me down memory lane of things that aren't actually in my memory because I never saw them originally.
And I was like, holy shit, do I need to be scared? Yeah, yes, you need to be scared of me. So I will tell you that the intro of me doing that was had to be shot in two different scenes because I didn't have my motorcycle license yet. So I was studying for a motorcycle license and I didn't have it, and so they had this idea of doing this, and so we had to do it. Ask backwards if that makes it act, because I did my helmet flip on one day and then I was going to ride just through my neighborhood and they're like, legally, you can't do that, you know, with production, because you don't have your license. So I had to hurry up expedite my license, and I had to do that another day. So the hair flips on one day and then the writing cycle is on another day. Well, you nailed it both both days. Five hours of filming on the motorcycle up in the canyon. I would have been so sore for two minutes of film, but you know what, it was worth it. And oh, I just looked up the definition of brash crash.
It's self assertive in a rude, noisy, or overbearing way.
You know what that could probably describe both of us.
Yeah.
Well, whatever I've been called worse, it did make me really excited for this season.
And then I have a question for you, just as we move forward with our relationship.
Wait, wait, wait, I did not like one thing about the opening. What would Gina Sane Tamred talks shit about her friends. I didn't like it because that's absolutely not true. I will talk shit to your face. I'll tell you. That's about how I feel. Yeah, I don't talk shit behind my friend's back. I will tell you you may be a shit talker, but to somebody's face. Yeah, I'm a shit talker to your face.
Yeah, And which I think is I would much rather than hear you gossip about me behind your back, which I'm sorry, Gina.
I feel like I've heard you do a fair amount. Well that's the whole thing about the show. So yeah, yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
But my next question is if you were to lose it on me, because I mean you, I mean, when you start a fight like you're you're in it to win it, would I have any warning that it was coming or.
Does it just like you hit wits end and it just well, I don't go off the handle for no reason, so of course you're gonna know, just don't piss me off.
Well, you know what, I'm just scared at one time it may happen, and I just has it happened in the two years we've been doing this podcast.
No, the chance sor it's not gonna happen, all right, Okay, I'm gonna take your word for it, and don't you worry if it does, I'm going to bring you back to this moment. Okay.
But Tamar, it is so good. It's the best one I've seen. And that's not even It was.
A pretty epic return for sure.
I mean sure, a hell of a lot better than walking and seeing a view and opening the door and drinking a glass of champagne.
But just saying, AnyWho, we have to take whoever, whatever your personality is, and make the best of it when you come, come in right the shade the shade there, I see it. I'm not trying to shade. I'm just saying, like I've been riding motorcycles dirtbikes for years and now I have my motorcycle license to write on the street, which we do like a couple times a month. We'll go out right now. It's been raining for days over here in Orange County, and he's a stock. No, it's cold. It was cold yesterday, so over it.
So but guys, we are going to do host chat in our next podcast, where we're covering real housewives in New Jersey, because we have some additional Housewives headlines to get through before we even.
Talk about Atlanta.
Okay, okay, being said, the first one is Lisa Holgstein verbally assaulted, shoved Lennie in a hostel tirerade at ten million dollar home.
There's an article here. Wait, who's got it is? There? Isn't there a house like fifty million dollars? Who's That's what I was saying. I thought it was. I'm confused here, who's us? Maybe it's not a fifty million dollar home. Maybe it is just a ten million dollar home, just a ten I mean just ten. I mean, come on, get it together, loosers. So.
New court documents filed by Lenny and obtained by Page six exclusively claimed Lisa became enraged on May tenth when Lenny walked into their former shared bedroom to grab his mail where she usually leaves it from one.
Don't leave the mail in the bedroom. That's a weird spot to leave it.
That's a really weird spot in their office and we live together. Yeah, slay it on his desk, like could you imagine my later like bedside?
What is he gonna do? Get in bed and re open the mail upon entering the master bedroom, Lisa suddenly ran out of her combined bathroom and closet and surprised Lenny by engaging in a verbal tirade, demanding to know why Lenny had entered the master bedroom. The document state.
Lisa started pushing him physically, which caused him to retreat, and Lisa continued to pursue and follow Lenny while yelling at him. Pale arrived and determined there was insufficient probable cause to arrest either the reality star or the book god for domestic violence, according to the documents, let me just give you a little Pessa, if you don't clearly, I mean, she just posted another picture with her boyfriend, A boyfriend. No, that one has been around for a little while. It's the same one, Like I feel like it was New Year's or something.
That wasn't the same one at the reunion, was it.
Yeah, I think it's the same guy. Really, Yeah, she brought him at the reunion.
Guy. He looked more handsome in the picture.
But it could have been the face app but.
Lisa using face app. No, No, Lisa, No.
I mean, we love Lisa, but I think truthfully, you just can't live together. It never works unless the way it works is the kids stay in the house and the parents come and go, and the other person lives in a different location when they're not taking care of the children.
I mean, it's becoming War of the Roses, which happened to be one of my favorite movies ever. That's not shocked.
But now I want to rewatch it because I did I remember watching.
Rhythm Swinging from the Chandelier fighting.
Yeah, oh goodness, But all right, the next one.
Lisa vander pomp is denying. She yeah, Well, here's the thing.
First off, there's all these rumors that something is going to be shared, and episode three of The vander Pump Rules reused.
That nobody knows. That nobody knows.
So there's been all kinds of things, like somebody alleged that Rachel Raquel is pregnant, somebody said the rumor that what actually happened was Lisa vander Pump and production knew of the affair.
Okay, I'm going to stop right there. I would say there's a huge chance of production knowing, huge, gigantic chance because they were sloppy, they were messy, they were fooling around in Mexico. There was your Mic, do you say things you don't remember, Like, I'm pretty sure somebody knew.
So, okay, this is what I was a little bit confused about in regards to this, you know, rumor that something's going to be revealed on the.
Episode three of the thing.
I forgot that all three uh Arianna, Raquel, and Tom were all interviewed separately, So I didn't even realize that the entire cast.
So you think somewhere was said something was said in the one on one interview that the rest of the group does.
Not know, correct, except Lala said that Alex baskin her at the NBC Upfront. I did get eaten the live when I said that. I assumed that production or vander Pump probably knew.
I mean, but.
I mean the amount of vitriol when I said that, even in a joking way.
And now she's on on the twitters. She's on the she's on the twitters, He's on the twat because she was She.
Got a lot of heat at the reunion, and I get why she wanted to try to have Tom's back as well, they're in business together.
She you know, has kind of that mother type, be honest with you. I felt that they were like so beyond me, d him, like, wouldn't let him talk and call him names and heckling him and all. It's like, come on.
But also I do think that if we're gonna fully hold Tom's feet to the fire, then Arianum maybe shouldn't get upset when she has to talk about some of the struggles in their relationship, because they openly said they hid all their issues, and she admitted that why were they hiding it because clearly they were you know, they weren't being very real, were they.
No, So that's the problem.
So I get the defending him in that moment once you hear that there, you know, and we've hung out with them before, we both talked to them on their own more than they were talking to each other. Do I think that that is an excuse to cheat on somebody with their best friend?
Absolutely whatsoever. And Arianna could say and call Tom whatever name she wants at the reunion, but I just felt like some of the others were just I kind of felt sorry for Tom. I know that that's not a popular opinion, apecially when they've all cheated too, and I get it it is on the best friend, but it's like I also wonder like, I don't know.
But either way, Lisa vander Pump says, you know, people are saying that she knew, and she's saying, okay, no, I didn't know until a minute before you all did. I wish I would have, though producers didn't know either. I know the revelation, but it ain't that.
First off, I have never heard Lisa vander Pump say, ain't so who's ever running her social media? It ain't her, It ain't you her, that's for sure. It's like if she said you'se like I mean you.
But do you really think that she says ain't no, I don't or is she trying to be fine?
Oh kay? I think and I would you like some Vanda Pump rose, I ain't having any.
I don't have a voice, right, But either way, then she said, and somebody says, sorry, I don't believe this for one, And it's so clear she's on team Scannabal because she has investments in him.
She knew then the woman right then? Not the woman?
Then vandr Pump rites, excuse me, don't call me a liar. I am as upset as everybody else. Then, Sabrina Ruez writes you did defend him a lot during the union. Can I ask why? And she said, no, I didn't defend him. How could I? I just didn't want to pile on. It scares me when everyone is against one. But yes, I was very disappointed I found out last I agree. I don't like a pile on. And I also.
I just I think the part where he started crying. I mean, obviously, this guy did a horrible thing and he's paying for it right now. But as he's trying to talk and he's told the tears back, and then James Kennedy is like, you know, yelling at him, stop being a bitch. You're you know, you're being weak. What are all the things he was saying to HIMIM like and like, you're not a victim. I get that he's not a victim.
No, but it doesn't mean that you don't have regret, but to have the way you handled things some compassion. But people saw him on the airport talking to Raquel, so clearly Raquel has her phone back.
Well, I felt like that was a very staged photo. You did. Of course I did. He's got his head turned, the phone's tilted this way, it's in earbud mode, So why is he looking at his phone if it's what, it's an earbud mode, Like, just set the phone next to you. Why do you have it tilted looking up this way?
And also why is he coming for gleannamor magazine because they commented on his white nail polish.
I'm so sick of that white nail polish. Can you please change it to black? Please? Like your heart? Oh my gosh.
Yesterday Edwin was wearing a sweatshirt that had a lightning bolt on it, like for me, viation.
Like this one, yes and everyone and their mother? Could you have me?
Like?
Tell him you can't where? Oh god, I want to take it too far?
Oh my items like I didn't even think about it.
Instagram has completely lost her mind over Erica and her new man. She was spotted with rumored new man in Las Vegas ahead of the residency. So who is he? According to attorney Ronald Richards, who has been very vocal about the ongoing Frog case, he's the one that doesn't shut the up right yeah lawsuit against Erica and her strange husband Tom. It seems that Jim it's Jim Wilkes, her alleged financial backer. Now what does that mean financial backer Is that.
They're saying that they're saying that he pays helps her pay her legal bills.
Oh okay. According to the report, last September, Jim, who has been described as a longtime associate of Tom's, allegedly sent just under five hundred thousand to Erica after her November twenty twenty divorce finally against Tom's. How did people actually know that she was sent five hundred thousand? Is that in like court records or something? Maybe in court records. So Erica filed a summary judgment motion to get herself out of the case, and in response, the law firm noted that Erica was receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars for her legal fees from an attorney named James Louis Wilkes. The second it is Wilkes's law firm. So is she in a romantic relationship with this guy or is he her attorney?
Okay, so what are you? First and foremost? This is everywhere like the best of Bravo posted this. There's all this information about him, this is him topless. I'm like, oh, buddy, I might need to tell you hashtag manscape. So essentially, once this photo dropped so many things. Every Instagram Instagram blogger out there has been posting things like.
That he's been arrested, that they're you know, they're together, he pays for her, blah blah blah, and you know, I was like, I just want to get to the bottom of this. Did you call her? So? I sent Erica a text.
This morning and I just said, Hey, clearly you're all over my newsfeed right now, which means you're on the rundown.
We're going to be talking about you on housewife headlines, So give us the truth.
I was like, so tell it to me like it is, and she wrote, L O L It's absolutely ridiculous. She does a smiley face and she writes, Jim Wilkes is my lawyer and longtime family friend.
There you have it, and I believe her. You heard it here first people, you heard it here's dating him.
And clearly, if they were trying to date and keep it under wraps, they're not out in public. And also it's not like she is out and inconspicuous like she you know, like she's in the red vinyl pants like the one's from Berlin, like she's she's in an Erica Jane outpit.
It's clear they're not touching. She walking through Las Vegas. Is that where this picture was taken. It looks like it, but it could really be anywhere.
But I mean the fact that they're now dragging this guy through the mud saying that they're together, and then the comments on Instagram are just brutal.
Where it's like people don't even know. Well, a lot of people are saying she has a type what older and rich?
I guess, but I I think if she was dating him, she would have been transparent with me when I just asked and she said, oh my gosh, no, he's been a really good friend.
And you know what, during all that shit that went down, she needed a good friend. And we don't know the circumstances of his past and whatever.
But like, well, one legal problem to another. Garcel dragged to federal lawsuit over Facebook posts. This actually makes me sick to even it annoys me. It annoys the shit out of me. So, according to Radar Online, she's been hit with a federal lawsuit on social media post. So basically, she posted a picture on her Facebook page that a paparazzi took what a year ago, of her in twenty twenty two, she went to New York and you know, sometimes what will happen is when you're gonna go do something, certain people will talk to different photographers to take me depressed. They are out there, they're out there, or door we exit it. Yeah.
Or it could be a situation where she was like, oh, do you want to come take pictures? This is where I'll be And not even in a bad way, but the part I don't like, and I get it.
You should not be taking images.
I we you know, we all know that if their copywritten, you shouldn't be posting and not giving credit.
Blah blah blah.
But him saying that he was expecting to make a lot of money from it and didn't because she posted it, I'm like you.
Year later photos in twenty twenty two, and she posted it in May of twenty twenty three.
If you were gonna make money off it, it's those things are up the next day, right.
That means somebody actually bought the picture and posted it. Now, if nobody had bought the picture, they'd never been used in an entire year. Nobody's going to is there like a statue of limitation, Like when you take a picture of a celebrity, Well, she must have gotten it from somewhere. It hadn't been yeah, somewhere, right, you probably looked it up. Who knows, you can easily like look up. I don't know if there was pictures of me from when I the last time I was in New York.
Hosted like press wise, but I saw them like come through, like it was in my Instagram and stuff.
But I'm kind of a sad lot that these people, these paparazzi people can take pictures of you but without your permission, without your permission, but yet when you go to repost them, you know, if you see it somewhere and you repost it, you're in trouble. You can get sued. I mean the Kardashians get in trouble for this all the time. Yeah, so you know for a future, guys, just you can easily like if Getty Images.
Takes your photo or any of those types of things, you can ask for the like.
So if I when I went to can you give them credit?
I asked like, can I have this without the watermark and I'll tag your photographer? And they easily said sure. So it's just like go through the channels.
So what if it has a watermark on it and you and you want to post that picture and you give them credit in your caption, does that work or No? No? I mean I mean, once the picture has already bought and somebody's already using it and you repost it, I don't understand. There shouldn't be an issue with it.
No, it would have been different if let's say that picture was in US Weekly and she took a picture of the US Weekly and posted it, then this lawsuit wouldn't exist.
But because wherever it is, maybe we don't know the circumstances.
He could have sent her the pictures, she could have gotten them online, we don't know.
But either way, it's like to say in the lawsuit how much money he wants? Because if he's come for two million dollars and I'm gonna laugh that, I mean, how much can he possibly get for the picture? One hundred dollars? I don't know. And that's what I don't know.
I don't know how much money he could have even gotten because it's not like she was doing something scandalous. She was holding I think it said she was holding a white purse out.
Well, it just makes me sad for anybody to have to go through legal system. Yeah, and then have to spend all that money on lawyers, like which leads me to believe, did he ever even reach out to her on his own right?
Just I feel like this could have been resolved, but I feel like it's gonna be our money.
It's going to go in her way, I'm sure a year later.
Okay, Now, before we get into Atlanta, let's talk about our thoughts about the Twitter exchanges going on between Marlowe Mannetta. I think is Kenny a part.
Of this too? No, I think it's just two of them.
Yeah, so it's just Marlowe and Manyetta.
I mean it's like, don't let me do this when the show starts. Don't let me go on Twitter and start normally. I don't ever do this anyways, but start bashing your castmates. Yeah. So, I mean it started with Manyetta. Rights. Here we go again, the can at.
iHeart marlow talking out of both sides of her neck, always behind my back, never to my face. I don't respect that. You need to worry about getting that nasty hat coffee you've had for the past two years checked out. Marlow is frowns canned peach. You have a family, juicy history with a celebrity ex and a husband, and you still didn't get a peach.
Make it make sense this? Oh my god.
Then Manietta writes, actually, Marlow, I agree with you. I am way more qualified to be a housewife than you. It doesn't make sense at all. Thanks for that, and Marlow responds it doesn't. Maybe you're lacking in performance. Get your own identity and off your master's leashes, Kay and Ka, and maybe then you could roam the park free and dig up a peach.
But keep it cute.
You're still a fan, like you were here at my peach party. Maybe I will throw you one next year, love, kissy face. Oh don't worry, there's still one more.
Cute pick at. iHeart Marlow. We came to support you.
I can recognize and salute ten years of back breaking, hard work of being Ninie Leek's do boy to finally get that charity hand peach difference as real as I'm a real housewife that's been connected and respected, No show, no cap, Marlow responds.
Real housewife? Are you in the opening credits, Love, I'm confused, do boy, I'm the one who told you my sister to hop out of her feeling and in her bag like I'm trying to do with you. Nini and I had a whole fall out on National TV. What the hell are you talking about? Good night boo? I got cookouts tomorrow, A lad, there's one more. I cannot take it anymore now.
I'm not surprised to say that I went over your head at iHeart, Marlow. I'm talking real reality, not reality TV credits. Can't wait to see how it plays out when you try to slam that door in my face, shaking my head.
It didn't go over my head, honey. I'm talking about the housewife title.
That you seem to be obsessed with the title that you currently lack and so desperately seek on reality TV.
Get a clue. I don't like any of these exchanges. It's a lot, but this is my issue.
I liked manyatta on this episode, and I'm trying to figure out what set her off so much from this episode.
Who knows, but marlus is twenty years ago her right to bare arms was taken away from her when she was charged with assault. Since the break in, she doesn't feel safe without having guns in her home. She says she needs to get her record unpunged. That was called exponge expunged. She says she needs to get her record expunged, and Courtney, a new friend, is helping her, unlike Candy, who says she's worldwide.
The friend of slash fixer is giving me Olivia. Nope, I cannot.
I mean, I don't know. I can't with this Courtney. No, what's Courtney's background? What does she do? I don't know. I mean, I was like, are you actually a fixer? Because so far you haven't been acting likewise. I wouldn't rather heard Marlo say she went to record La archived right, Oh my gosh. Well, I mean I like Marlowe. But just because Candy didn't help Marlowe with this doesn't mean she isn't a friend.
Well, it starts with Marlow's nephew, Quinton, was a chef for Old Lady Ging and was shot by his roommate, who also happened to work there. Marlow told Candy, to which she responded, he don't work there anymore.
Sorry to hear.
Marlow feels Candy never acknowledged her nephew's passing and wants to find out why Candy keeps having shootings at her restaurant. This is the part that's a little bit tricky. I get that she doesn't like Candy's response. It's not the it's not the sweet and fuzziest response one would get.
I would have been more on Marlow's.
Side if she would have just said, you know, a friend when they hear about, you know, a family member's passing, doesn't just automatically fight back about their business. They you know, they comfort But like, if we're gonna come in strong on this topic and we're going to be that upset at Candy, and we're going to be that upset at the way that Drew brought it up and.
All of these things, you should have set it to Candy.
But I mean, how often does everybody talk about not going after someone's business.
This is what Marlo was doing.
By saying they need to investigate the shootings at Candy's restaurant, right.
One shooting at Blaze. I just think she's got misplaced anger and she's hurt and she's trying to take it out on Candy. I'm having a hard time with her Storylineline. I don't know about you, but Sonya tells her sister Shari, she and her husband are going to want to live alone. I didn't realize that Sonya's husband's name is Aaron. I thought his name was Ross all this time, but evidently it.
Found out today it's his nickname because that's their last name.
So Ross wants his wife back, his home life back. I could relate to that, like having somebody live with you in your house, not just one, but they have like what five.
People living in There's kids, there's the sister, this husband who's the assistant.
Sistant, yeah not anymore because the dad, Yeah, Sherry doesn't take it the news well, and her husband Tyrrell quits is Sonya's assistant. So but I think the part that makes it a little bit confusing to one, I think the sister would probably be a better housewife than Sonia because she is very emotional and like doesn't hold back at any point in time, which I actually appreciate. I like Sonia's mom as well.
But it was Sonia's idea to have them move to Atlanta, and I think, you know, they made good points, like they are able to like, we don't have any family that's nearby, so anytime we need any help, with the kids. Anytime I need somebody to help me do something for work, it is someone I am pain, right.
But she's living there, living in her house. It's been a year. It's time to maybe start looking like could take six months. But her family is not really warm and fuzzy with her, and the mom is like the manager, it's time to move out. It's time to move out. I's time to move out. And then I'm telling you right now, it's a bathroom scene for me, Like I'm like a bathroom break, gotta go.
He's interesting to me is when Margaret was talking about her best friend that lives with her.
I don't if it's not a key player or it's not your husband, Like it'd be one thing if it was a real true discussion between Sanya and Ross and they were like duking it out and like having a big conversation about why.
But that's happening. I feel like everybody was talked to, Hey, this season, we're gonna go ahead and to talk about you guys maybe now, And it looks like they're acting and also and.
Then she's like, I didn't, I don't actually want this to happen and starts crying.
But then in.
Last week's episode, if you recall, the sister was already complaining and doesn't seem happy being there anyways, So I'm also confused why she even cares like good riddance. I thought that I was controlling in type A until I saw which actually this gave me a brilliant idea that she shares a Google doc of checked things off on thing with her assistant. So did you see when she looked and it was the whole thing with little box and she's like, I see a lot off the well. I have to say, Sonya and Kenya both were not the nicest to their assistant flash name like they weren't.
But you know, with her discipline, I think that she's better off being an athlete than she is a reality star. I feel like she doesn't smile, she's not very happy, and just two I don't know.
I just friends said it best on our group text. It says, if she doesn't have any fun in her.
She's a robot. I think she's been conditioned to be a robot. She's and I would like to see her relax a little bit.
I yeah, I mean even when she said she was I don't know how.
Far Georgia is from Alabama. Well they drove there, right, yes, but you I realized she was driving to Alabama with them to go to that lame mass event and then drive back. It must be close. It can't be that close. Well, let's google it. Let's ask Alexa, Alexa, how close is Alabama to Atlanta? Alabama? Atlanta is one hundred and sixty point nine miles away by home, one hundred and sixty nine miles. It's like me driving a palm Springs.
I get it, but that's still farther than I would want to do to go to that cocktail party two hours and fifteen minutes.
But I guess she's doing her job. But I can say I all speaking of her going back and forth. I missed Drew and Candy on this episode. Yeah, they were missed for sure. Now this, the Alabama trip is just a day trip. Is that it?
No?
It's no. You haven't even gotten to where the dance is supposed to. Oh, hold on, we also have.
To talk about Listen, we love charat love, but sh you're dancing sucked. You should not have won that dance in competition like you did not know. And and that's where I was like, Ken, yet you're setting this off on the wrong foot because everyone saw her not like that would be like me out there like I would two left beat, wouldn't know which way direction to go, Brandon.
But anyways, I mean, and then we got to see Chary at the O BG y N with her legs in the stirrups. Yeah, but that actually was a good conversation. It was a great conversation. And I'm thinking that she's possibly gonna end up having surgery or something. I feel like something.
But I think she's gonna end up wanting to just do the fibroids, not get uh herress out because she wants to get She wants to get that d sooner rather than later.
Okay, I know, but that dance off or buck off or would they call it yeah or something? I don't know. We would be chairing. We would lose too, but I would I gonna ask you, how do you think it would go down if it was me and you? Shit?
I mean, I feel like if we're talking about history of things we've done together, We've never done a dance, so I don't know, but I can follow instructions better with a tiktoks.
We have to really talk you through it.
So if we're going so, I think maybe, but I don't think, you know, it's a lose, lose.
Because the big Giants lose.
My dad still to this day makes fun of me for my cheerleading, like my team is red hot, my team is what and I would be like offbeat and.
He wait, you are a cheerleader only because.
My boyfriend played on the football team. And I want to but I know I'll show you a picture. I mean you you can't find like I was so bad, so I'm I mean.
I felt like that whole dance off was a little bit rigged and Sharay should not have won. But and then she didn't really win because she got an average size room. No, she just got a regular size room.
I thought they were gonna be going to a house, but then they finally they once they get to Birmingham. Kenya brings up Drew and Marlow's fight at saying Drew said Marlowe attacked her with standing over her aggressively. Marlow says Kenya's bosses. Kenya bosses everyone around and tries to run everything. Kenya says Marlow struggles with what personality she wants, and it is often a fake one. She says, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still Marlowe Hampton.
Okay, m hm, I think I've used that that une lick on a pig.
Here, here's the thing we all do.
We all saw it go down.
I'm not sure why they use the clip when they did the flashback after Kenya brought it up one. I wish Drew would have been there. This would have been a completely different conversation. So we know there's obviously more coming and we'll get back to this. But they used the clip where Marlowe was sitting, but clearly we had already seen the part where she is standing over Drew yelling, and she was.
When we finished watching that episode. In our group text, we were talking really like are you confused too? Like why is this Drew's problem? And why is she yelling at her like that? Like it didn't make sense? Like help me, I want you to help me see why this makes sense because it doesn't. But also I don't understand.
I've never known editors to not choose, Like why would they choose to give Marlowe the benefit of the doubt there when normally they're always I mean, damn, if you contradict yourself, they're gonna going to.
Show it for sure. Well maybe there's more to it. We're going to see more, I'm sure. But what was driving me crazy was the Kenya and marlow hacking. The entire time. I was like, oh, oh my god, it drop it. At first, I thought Marlowe was mocking Kenya when she was doing it after her, and then I realized, no, they're both like everyone's got COVID. I don't understand what it's probably from eating booty, That's what it is. It's the booty eating. I mean, what what were your thoughts on the booty eating conversation? And do you eat? I don't, so I have a I do not. I have an exit, only no ties or anything.
Then the part that really confused me is getting kicked out of an event because of production.
That had to be approved by the event is wild like this, This was mind blowing to me. But you know what, this has happened to me before. This is one hundred percent happened to me. We filmed at the hospital Eddie was getting a PLATI and it was at Script's hospital in San Diego, and I thought everything had been signed off, but then when we got through and we started filming, the head of the hospital shut us down.
That is well, I get it at a doctor's pointing, because it actually happened to me at my obgui n appointment. They had a proof that they come in and film the ultrasound. I was pregnant with Dove. But then once the crew got there, the doctor's office realized, like, it's not like three people, right, it's it's a crew.
It's a full crew. So like there's sound, there's sometimes sometimes they need lighting too, if it's we're filming in a dark spot, so they'll have to pop up lighting. It's and so they were like, it's a disruption.
We're only going to allow four people here, so if you can't figure out a way to do it with four people, And like I just remember production being like shit, you know, like we you know whatever.
But people don't know what to expect, so that could maybe have happened.
But what I didn't really get was why she needed to be there at exactly eight fifteen.
I thought you going to be honored or something, but she wasn't. She was just there. And then why she made Monyetta change we were in jeans, and like I say from the reunion, I think Chara said, you could have keep you could have kept your moody shorts on. I love Chari. I know she's just sweet and kind and I just love her. And she's shady, but she's still sweet when she's shady. I can't. I haven't mastered that yet. Okay.
Then the next thing that I want to talk to you about is when filming is unexpectedly disrupted, like at Kenya's event. Is it wrong that Kenya just bounces and heads to her room while all the other ladies are still filming.
Or do you think do you think they were still filming?
Well, all I know, who knows, because now the iPhones.
Are so good, we don't. Yeah, I think it was somebody had their iPhone out and put their iPhone out. Well, it had to have been one. Some sort of producer was with them.
Like when we were at the beach House and Erica left, production was already gone, but they kept Gavin there to monitor us. And then when shit started going down, Gavin took out his iPhone. Or for on a plane and shit goes down, there's Sally Ann with the iPhone. Yeah, so it could have been an iPhone. But if it was actual production still filming. I don't like when one person leaves early.
I don't, but I don't think it was early. I think it was late. I think that she they hadn't eaten food, they hadn't had dinner, remember they went. It's hard to tell on production time what time they were filming that event and what they did afterwards. Did that get cut? Did they go back to you know, it's really hard to tell what time. It could have been two in the morning.
I also wonder, I mean, believe me, I wish I had the option to bring my kids when we would go on trips. I do we think all the women knew that her daughter was there when they started knocking like that.
I think they did. I think she talked about how her daughter was going to be there. I don't know. I don't know. She went crazy when chanced to the door and threatened to call the cops. And it's like, come on, here's the thing.
I actually was team Marlowe at the beginning because that all the women were knocking, even Monyetta her like Bestie knocked.
They all were knocking that you could tell they were all tipsy. They've been drinking since lunch. They are trying to have a good time.
They go back to the hotel afterwards, all of them knocked, and immediately Kenya was furious because their daughter was there, which now I get, but I didn't know her daughter was there. I mean, granted, I guess you said you said you saw the daughter at the beginning, I didn't see it.
She said that she was going to come. So I don't know why, but.
I do think that it's like when one person brings lamb, which in that same token, Marlow had glamor. So it's like you can't really not that you can compare a child to glam Yeah, but.
How about Marla telling Kenya move Brooklyn into another room? I know, what the hell is she fine? Or Marlow went wrong? She was fine. That rubbed me the wrong way. But once she said get out here and talk to us and put the like, where's she going to put her? And but yeah, no, I have compassion for Kenya because she did go back to her room. She had her daughter with her. They were probably sleeping, her daughter's probably sleeping, and they kept banging. She was hoping that they would go away, and they didn't, and she opened the door and lost her ship.
She lost her ship with which then made Marlow really lose her shit and then say all the wrong things right, And then I have to remind myself Marlow is not a parent. Yes, she is raising teenagers at this point in time, but.
She never raised a toddler. A you know, like all those things so like the thing that are just so obvious to me, Like you should see how crazy I am when we're in a hotel and I have to like set up doves, pack and play like in the closet or the extra bathroom or and somebody's laugh. I'm like, yeah, no, I get it. I've lived it for kids. Yeah, I know. But if you haven't lived it, I don't know that you understand. Yeah, And I think she was drunk or tipsy. Problem not to make houses are yes? One of the fan thoughts are why are the friends of filming more than the housewives? Some of the housewives I haven't noticed that.
Well, we're at two for two of big events that Drew has not been at both times I know, I know, which which then makes me go down the rabbit hole she has because with with Ralph.
Yeah, are we going to see the demise of her marriage on the show, because as of right now, it like they've never heard tending.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. If not, well, I guess we'll hear about it next season. But she's gonna need to start showing up to shit.
At least she was still talked about this episode. A lot of people miss Drew and Candy, and then a lot of people think that Marlon tried to Hart this episode and last episode.
Especially when we go to scenes from next week where when Kenya is sick and she is rushed off to the hospital, and which makes me wonder, does that mean she's never going to do the Kenya More Haircare dance.
I need to see that, and I need to see it so I need to be better.
But then but then Marlowe, this is where I do agree with Kenya. And then marlow is the one doing the praying let her be better, let her like the whole thing, And I'm like.
Do we know what happened to her?
I'm guessing they both were sick. I mean they're sick, they're clear, they're talking off wine. I guarantee you they all had COVID that time. It's probably why Drew wasn't there because she probably tested positives COVID, you know just why.
I think the network's is tired of even mentioning COVID at this point. So it's just like we're sick, which is fine with me. It's fine.
But either way, I thought it was a good episode. I thought Marlowe tried to touch too hard. I do think we need some sort of voice.
Of reason in this group. Who do you think that is? Right now? I mean, there is no voice or reason I think.
At this point because Candy's been so activated this season, Like, I do feel like they need Cynthia back.
Do you think that Candy is the normal voice of reason?
I think in general it's like Candy's way or the highway, you know, like she's I think she's pretty reasonable except when it comes to like her family and her So you're.
Saying that we need Cynthia back because she's more of a voice or reason.
Yeah, And I think it's the same way we always need Dolores. There needs to be one, Like who do you think the voice of reason of Orange County is?
I was just thinking that that just entered my mind, the voice of reason. I think that that Heather can be a voice of reason A lot of times.
You think she can see both sides of an argument, and then yeah, I think that she can. She can unless it involves her she yeah, I mean, isn't.
Everybody like that? But I feel like she's not impulsive, she thinks things through. I think that Shannon can be a voice of reason at times as well. I think that we all have our time and moment of being the voice of reason for sure, But on that cast, I feel like there's not a lot of voice. It was a lot of chaos. It's all about me, me, me, may me. But it was a good one. It was a good one. Keep it up, girls, love it up, ladies. Good work. We want to see Candy and Drew next episode, and make sure you guys subscribe and we will be back tomorrow to talk all things Jersey.