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Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.
And tambrid Judge.
And today we have a very special guest.
Very special.
We are here with Erica Jane.
Hi, guys, thank you so much. I mean, this is such a treat, honestly to be with both of you.
Oh well, we're coming off from a big high from last night.
Did you enjoy it?
I have to say, we went in and I was like, Okay, this is going to be good. But I had seen your show a couple of years ago when we were filming Beverly Hills, and I walked in and just your energy was so much different.
Good and I'm really thank you.
It felt so alive, it felt so well.
Oh yeah, well that you know.
See, the thing is when you're given a budget and you're given like a space, you can really put.
On a show and you do with what you have, you know.
But I can say this, also, you looked like you were having fun.
I was.
I really was. I'm free and I'm free for a lot of Yeah, you deserve that. We'll talk about that thing and the costumes. Fun, right, how many costume changes? I think it's like five and a half If you count.
The reveal from the feathers, it's like five and a half.
Yeah.
Well that's that's impressive. And it's a quick turnaround. And then we have to say, guys, there are some hot background dancers.
Absolutely, there always are. I mean that's what people come to see. You have to fill the stage with talent.
Yeah, and you did, you absolutely did.
Don't worry. I leaned over to your tour manager and I'm like, hey, I'm here with one of my single friends. We need to know of that guy is straight?
It's two of them? Are two of them? Are?
We found out the details? Did you did the work? Absolutely? So this is your opening weekend? Describe what opening night felt like to you.
Okay, I never want anyone to come to opening night because it's just you're racked with nerves. Yes, you have rehearsed, but it's never gone off in front of an audience, so you don't know what lands you know, Like, I can we can sit in a studio, we can sit and rehearse and say, oh gosh, we love this, But ultimately it's what the audience responds to, and so that's what I'm really looking for. Also, too, those opening night nerves can get in. You can fuck you up. Yeah, they can fuck you up. But it went off beautifully opening night and then last night. You know, after you get that one show under your belt, then you start to settle in and you start to really just sort of breathe on stage and say, you know what, I can take a little bit of time here, let me make sure I address this part of the audience. I have a little bit more time on the stairs or the lift isn't freaking me out. And that was opening a weekend. I felt good about it.
Were you able to enjoy the first show with all the.
Nerves I was.
I was able to. You know, there's a that moment when you you rise up from the floor and you're like, oh shit.
And you know, like oh my god, and then.
You settle in and you just and also to have done it so much, you know, I've given so many shows throughout my life that you can kind of just you know, take that moment.
Tell us about your rehearsal, Like how intense is that? How often are you rehearsing.
So we did thirty We did eighty minutes and thirty days, So eighty minutes of content in thirty days.
That is unheard of.
And you had an injured toe. I saw that on Instagram, like, was your toenail gone?
Yes? So we I'm just gonna let this out on here. I don't care.
We shot a documentary around this. Oh, and I was having a meeting with this man that ultimately directed it, Mark Ritchie, who was fantastic, and I was walking into the Soho house and I came up short on the tall staircase and I kicked off my big toenail. Oh okay, Now, I wanted this guy to direct this film so fucking bad for me that I just thugged it out and was bleeding all over the place and just kept going and asking the nice waitress for Linen's, and then I would go to the bathroom and wash my bloody foot out and clean up the floor in the Soho house and then walk back out. I just wanted Mark Ritchie to direct this doc for me so bad that I didn't care what happened.
Adrenaline took over anyone.
Basking was with me, and he was like, you are one tough motherfucker. I had three tequila's and just was like, you have to do this film for me?
So yeah, well, I think the world knows that you're one tough motherfucker.
Thank you.
He's everything I would have to say. With everything you've gone through, you've never played the victim card or me, poor me, poor me.
No, it's not who I am, and it doesn't work me either, neither have any of these neither three of us.
You know, the three of us are not that way.
And thank you for saying that, Tamera, because you're really strong and you I really appreciate you saying that, and it's just not you know, So you have to own up and, as you say, take accountability for everything that you do and what you don't do right. And that's the most important part.
And what would you say is advice for people who are struggling to kind of find their voice or to find their confidence. And something that I've said, which I don't know is similar to you, but I'm like, I will fake it till I make it. Like there are moments I'm going to walk into and like I am fully pitting out and I'm nervous and I'm sweaty. But I'm like, all right, I'm going to at some point my authentic self will show up, yes, but I'm having to give this extra little until I get back.
That's where the growth is, and that's really If you stay complacent and in the comfort zone, you will never know what you can achieve. You will never know who you are. Truly, why not walk into it? And just you can do this, I swear to God, nobody man. You just you have to put on your big girl panties and just put one foot literally in front of the other, and you will find yourself and it will come to.
You smile on your face.
Right.
But if you turn and run, it's fucked up. I mean it's over for you. You can never leave social media, you can never cower, you can never let the crowd dictate who you are.
You can never not show up for a reunion.
Well that, honey, that.
Is like cheers to that, cheers to that. Anyone who doesn't or anyone who honestly repeatedly leaves.
I don't like that either, as you know, and you know too, I'm done with this.
I need to leave. No bitch, sit right here and take it like the rest of us.
No, we all fucking take it and I'm done.
He stopped filming.
This cannot be on.
Yeah, we don't talk about this. You know what. We don't have a choice.
I don't have a choice.
I didn't want to talk about a lot of things. Guess what I got, you know, roasted for two years and.
Yeah, in a situation that you really couldn't talk about, but you really navigated through it very well.
I do the best I could.
Thank you, you know, And people don't understand your hands are tied when you're in legal situations and it's timing. Why couldn't you say this because I can't?
Yeah, part of this, don't you under everything you say and do will be yes, all of that exactly.
And then it's also on film. So if you were to say something you're not allowed to say, you're doubly fucked.
Well, yes, and things are you know, believe we could get into it, but yes.
We'll get into that here. We'll talk more about the show first. But recently you told et this is an incredible moment for me, a rebuilding moment. And to the haters, why don't you go see it and see if you dislike it? After two years of laying it all out there. Why do you think some people can't just let you.
Win because they don't want me to because they hate themselves, because you know, it's just it's not I'm someone that's like, I'm really happy for you when you're successful. I'm happy for you when you do things. I want to surround myself with women who are doing great things. I think that a lot of people are miserable and they want you to be miserable with them.
Well, especially on social media. Now, I'm sure like your friends and true life are like, yes.
There were so many tears Opening night. Everyone else cried but me. Everyone cried for me because you've been crying. I've been crying. But I watched a lot of people like I'm so proud of you. This is wonderful, and tears were coming out of their eyes, and I was like, thank you, Like I just I had to take it.
I don't even want to cry because but it was so nice to see you rise abup after everything. I couldn't even imagine the last couple of years what you went.
Thank you, thank you baby, thank you very much. Yeah. I pulled it up, you know.
And and if I inspire one person to pull themselves together and keep going. That's all what it wasn't like when the girls, my beautiful background vocalist, which I've never had in my life, when we do sweet dreams, hold your head up, moving on, Hold your head up, moving on. That's really what it was about. And I said it, you know, tonight is about hold your head up, moving on.
Yeah?
Did you get teary eyed?
I'm upset right now, Yeah, but yes I did. I'll stay night Opening night.
I had to like, Okay, what do you think is more difficult this show or Roxy?
Roxy? Because of the schedule, eight shows a week, one day off.
How long did you do Roxy?
I was scheduled for three months. I did seventy seven out of my eighty six shows because COVID cut two weeks off.
And in that situation, I mean, I remember walking into your dressing room and it was it makes this seem like a mansion.
This is a mansion. Yeah, Broadway is the real deal. That's an old school, hundred year old theater.
It is you know, it is no team. No Laya did my makeup.
Like she and I would sit there and listen to Ella Fitzgerald and do my makeup I had a wig so they had a wig master. But other than that, you were out there just on a wing and a prayer. Like last night, you know, you have lights and smoke and everything Chicago is it's real you and an orchestra. Good luck, honey.
But I can say this there. You know, there was a moment because there's always doubt when you when you love somebody and you care about somebody, You're like, oh my gosh, I wonder if they pull this off, please pull this off. But also is this going to be a lip sinking situation now? And it wasn't like it. We could one hundred percent hear your voice for sure, and I was like, fuck, I am so proud of you. And then I forget what song it was like. Maybe it was when you came out and you were in the light blue dress and your voice it had like this softness to it and it was just so beautiful. And I just want people to know that that not only like you hear a very strong and I mean I have the same similar speaking voice, yes, but you have a real lightness in your singing voice that's like angelic.
Well that was the moment, so we took, you know, leave the door open, and we turned it into to a our dream girl's moment and just made it sort of airy and beautiful, and thank you. That was the aesthetic we were looking for, that airy sort of almost in a way Supremes Diana Ross. God knows, I'm you know nothing, you know, could never be on that level, but that sort of almost sixties sort of beautiful moment, and I really enjoy it. I think that that's a really cool part of the show. Yeah, taking it back.
When you found out about the residmes, I didn't believe it, Like, tell us how that happened?
Were we seek out?
What state of mind were you in? Because it's been a roller coaster for two.
Years, I'll be honest.
My agent at CIA Santini Reality said, I want to put you in touch with this young manager. Her name is Alexis Fisher. She's really got a lot of shit going on. We met at shoe Okay Mab Glenn and we met there and we just sort of vibed and and she said, what would you like to do? And I said, do you know what I've been thinking about? And I have been thinking about this for a few years. I'd love to do a Vegas Residency. We meant, She's like, you know what, I think I may this young woman Alexis Fisher then puts me in the room with Live Nation, like legit, straight up, like the right to you know. And I walked in and I sold it, and I said, this is who I am, this is what I've done. I put myself on tour before I'm coming off Broadway. Was my last performance gig, and I think I have something to offer. Damn it if it didn't happen.
How is this residency different than other performances you've done.
It's mine out the years, one hundred percent. It's on my shoulders. I own this thing top to bottom.
Oh congratulations, that's amazing.
Is Mikey doing the routines?
Mikey is the director, and I swear to God Teddy he had the He had a much harder job than I did. Just you know, we've worked together for so many years and bet it All on Blonde is based around fantasy, love, escape, glitz, glamor, and funds. So when you see order of show, you see costumes, you see all of our visuals. I mean, yes, we've worked together for many years, and yes we've done all that work together. But he really directed this show from top to bottom and called the show in my ear the entire time.
I mean, and that's it. He should really be, you know, sitting here, I know, I'm really all about him.
I'm like, is she bringing her backup dancing and.
Hairstylis here's the thing. I just have to get out there and perform. He's calling the entire show like we worked on this together. But as much as it was sitting on my shoulders, I almost feel like it's sat on his shoulders even more.
But do you guys ever fight, Like is there ever that moment where it's just tensions are so high and you say something and they're like, shit, maybe I should have said.
That for sure. And there are a lot of tears, Like there were a lot of tears. You know.
He was very emotional in a way I've never seen him. And he said to me, I want this so bad for you, And that was what I saw, you know, was like he was like, Erica, this is the beginning, you can you know, And I just thought, oh my yeah, holy shit, Like this person is really going to the map for me. And when you see someone that you've loved for so long in that place. I just my heart was just like, oh shit, Erica, please.
I hologized him for all of us.
I have to do this, for every person that believed in me and every person that showed up in that theater. I was just like, my god, this is all for you.
Thank you? You know?
And how did you choose the name Bettett? All on Blonde? Is that Casino? Hold on?
No? My one of my dearest friends, Jared Blandino, the creator, owner of Two Faced Cosmetics and now his new venture, Polite Society, names things all the time. When the most creative human beings I know, I called him up. I said, uh, Live Nation asked me what this show was called, and I have no fucking idea.
I said, can you help?
He goes, yes, he was on set of his Polite Society campaign shoot and all of a sudden, it starts sending me like just name after phrase after phrase after phrase after phrase, and the very last one. He later told me he was sitting in the car with his husband and he goes, you know what, and I said, that's it, that's it, and I mean, it's the perfect and it's a it's a it's a thank you, it's a nod to Vegas. It's a nod to believing in yourself. It's a nod to and I just said, this is it, and that's how we went with it.
So I owe it all. I owe the name to Jared Blandino, and.
Then we just have two more questions about the show and then we'll switch on to, you know, our favorite other topics. So there was a bunch of like Bravo bloggers and the watching the show last night. They came opening night, like you your biggest fans, and they came up to me and they were like, where the hell is the rest of the Fox fours five? Where is everybody else?
I was a little upset about that.
Yeah, well listen, Kyle's in Europe. Yeah that's yes, we know you were there. So that's when too, Lisa Renna's coming.
Yeah, I texted.
Weekend as we can, and so I was is that us? I mean, I think that's pretty much it.
So what about Sutton?
You know everyone has been invited? She text me back, she was in Charleston.
I know that.
Look at summertime, people are doing their thing. I'm here till December. I'm sure the girls will get in Garcel went on you know, an interview and said, I am definitely going to support Erica. Of course I text her I said, thank you. You know, look, I think at the end of the day, when the dust settles, we all want each other to win.
I know, at least I do. I want the best for you. I don't.
I will always support, I cheerlead for everyone, and I think that that is for everybody. Even though you clash, you have different and says at the end of the day, I know for me, I want to surround myself with successful women.
I don't feel like all women are like that.
No they're not.
But you know what, do you feel like everybody in your cast is like that?
I would hope so deep down. I mean, I don't know. You'd have to get down to them. But I know Kyle roots for me.
I know you.
I know you root for me. I know the roots for me, like you know. I know the girls that we are the closest with do and I hope that the other girls do because I will for them even even if my class I don't care whether they still want to surround myself with successful.
Any other housewives from other franchises that reached out to you like, can I have a ticket?
Well, listen, no, I reached out to like Candy Kenya, like all the girls that I know support me, but hey, people have their lives. We're in different spots of the country and sometimes, you know, so it's fine.
I'm here for what the Countess Luanne riach out.
I don't know, but I probably I don't know if I reach out to her or not, but you know what, I would love for the Countess to come out.
Then recently posted something as if she like she was next to some guy from Broadway, like eluding, and I'm like, I don't think she's the next Roxy. What do we think she was with?
Richard Alexander is kind of a big name in the industry.
So who knows. We'll see, We'll see what the Countess is up to. But speaking of Real Housewives of New York, there's been a lot going on with Bethany. She you know, she has pretty much won Come After You in season six she said she kind of disparaged your music and video career, and now she seems to have a vendetta against reality television, mainly Bravo. She's saying, it's, you know, the reckoning against all reality, But yet it's only been towards Bravo, and she's making it seem like we are all forced to do things. What's your take on that.
I'm an adult woman. I make choices. I've never had a producer say to me, hey, you need to go choose somebody up, or hey you need to drink some more, or something like.
That, you're not allowed to eat.
No, I've always I've always done whatever I needed to do in this inside this show, and I think that. I remember when Camille was on the reunion and you were there and she blamed production and Andy said, hold on a second, you have free will, and that is true. Like whether someone says to you, hey, Tam or go chew up, you know whatever, you can still say, you know what. I don't really feel like that, and I have in many instances said, you know what, I got to be honest with you.
I don't see it like that. I'm not going to do that.
I have had to have a drink in order to get through it because it's fucking tedious and we all know, the three of us know.
It's like a little liquid courage, yeah, you know, just to settle in and.
But that's a choice we make.
Yeah, No, it's a choice I make. Nobody ever says to me, hey, you need this shot or Now. I'm also a grown woman. I'm not a teenager. I'm not in my twenties trying to be famous, you know what I'm saying.
So I think that.
Everybody has to do what's right for them. Yeah, yeah, you know what's right for them. Do I think we need residuals? I do, because it's not I do. I think that we we could get some better.
But also I think mainly, if she really wanted to dig into it, she should be talking about all the crew. I mean, think about it. I mean, at the end of the day, the people starring on these shows are doing a lot, but the crew who's carrying around the camera.
For days yeah and one hundred degree heat, Yes, and.
They work their asses off, they really do. And yes, way more than audios. Sure, we just get to show up.
And but do you think she's doing it because she really felt that way, because she chewed up ninety percent of the people that she's ever filmed with, or do you think this is her way of being I want to be on this side of history. If these following things happen.
I don't really know. You know, she's interesting to me. I think in some ways I agree with her on some things and other things. I'm like, if you hated Reality TV was so bad, why why would we continue the conversation? Because she's made enough money to do her own thing and.
Yeah all the time. Yeah, and that's great. You know, I love it.
You hit a lick and that, Yeah, you did very well. And you have Reality TV because she has TV. That's what I'm saying. So when people are like, what do you think about reality TV? I sid I cannot shit on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I have a Vegas residency because of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I'm a New York Times bestselling author because of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Like, I'm not going to shit on well.
But to make a point in regards to what happened with Rachel, you created those things because of your platform I did. It's not a network's job to then create a business for.
You know, you have to know, no, you have to come in there with a plan. Also to look, do you think I wanted to go through the hell I went through for the last two years getting the ship beat out of me over problems. No, but you know what, I showed up and I took it on.
This describe season thirteen and one word somber.
Yeah, I feel bad for our girl, Kyle. Yeah, because she needs to, you know, stay out of it. It's like, to me, having gone through what I went through, you know what, let her tell me what she wants to tell me. There's so much speculation out there and it's not because the reality is nobody knows. Nobody knows, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. And you may think you do because you watch a show, but truly like, she's going to tell me what I need to know, and I'm not going to go over and say, so, what's happening?
Hey, bitch? You know what? Fuck you.
I've known this woman for a very long time. She's been good to me. Are rough times in my life. If you think I'm going to like butt in and you know it's not, It's not who I am.
But if I had a feeling if there was one person she was going to share with on this show anything, I feel like it's you. She did, because I think that you want to. And I know we had a rocky start, but that was my own misreading of a situation.
But you.
Have really no judgment, no, when it comes to anything. And I think that that is something that's misconceived on the show because you're you have a stoic nature, and then people read that as as cold, but really it's you're taking it in and then you're going to give your true opinion. But I haven't really ever heard you judge anyone.
No, I don't, And you know why, I understand a lot more than people are willing to give me. Like I nothing in this life is perfect. There is no perfect marriage, there is no perfect motherhood, there is no perfect anything. And I am open and willing and I listen to people even though it doesn't look like it. And I'm also the one that calls and says, hey, are you okay? Like I get it, you know, I and I don't. I don't want to hurt anybody. I really don't. If I get pushed then I'll lash.
Out, but push back.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I understand that. You know, I do things differently. I've always been sort of against the grain and done my own things, So I understand when people are like, you know what, I can't go there.
Do you feel like there are certain things that you didn't share about your marriage that you wish you would have in hindsight.
Not that I wish I would have because it's all come out, but you know, I think we all try to protect our husbands or our significant other.
Whole family.
Yes.
Yeah, And I was in a marriage that with a person that was rapidly changing and rapid going downhill, and there were so many things beyond my control. And I think that that was the only thing I wish I could change people's minds about is Please understand a lot of things were beyond my control, and so many things like I.
Don't run a law firm. Yeah, and I don't. I don't run that business.
That business has been around before I was born and I'm fucking fifty two years old, you know. I it's not like that.
Is there any time in your marriage where you thought you want it out or you should have gotten out?
Yes?
And I told Tom when I knew he was having affairs and all that kind of shit, I said, I think he should be a man and divorce me.
And he wouldn't.
Now I wanted why would want me to be the band guy. Why would any man have an affair on you just well, it's not I don't take it personally. I think that it has something to do with people. You know.
Well, there's that old saying I'll show you a beautiful girl, and I'll show you a gun. It's tired fucking her.
Show me.
If you're a woman, I'll show you.
I heard somebody say this, and I remember just I had like this, like fucking pissed off reaction to it. But I was around a really affluent rich man and his wife was sitting there and she said something that bugged him, and he goes, i'd be done with this, but it's cheaper to keep her. Well, I remember being at dinner.
Oh, yes, it's cheaper to keep I remember being at a dinner and this guy was saying, oh, if you were it was it, you know, chief of police at the time of lapd And he's like, oh, if you were better, I said, I'm sorry, I'm late, and he goes, oh, if you just being you know, cute, and he goes, oh, if you were married to a better man, you would have been here faster. And Tom literally looked at him and said well, if you think you can afford her, you can fucking have her, you.
Know.
I mean even when you go back and you watch some of the old scenes, just cris and walking, and I'm like, that isn't even the Erica I know. And I am going to tell you, guys, if you want to know more about Erica Jane, not only read her book, but go watch her Ted talk because that.
Wait, you have a Ted Talk. I did, and it was the hardest thing I've ever done, and I started to tear up in the middle of it.
But it was very difficult. Is when I realized, Teddy, you read this person wrong. And I know that you pride yourself on reading people and reading the room and knowing someone. And then I listened to that and I said, fuck, you need to take a step back. That's kind and realize what's happening here.
Yeah, but I feel like the public whenever there is a very tough girl.
And I'm speaking for you, I'm speaking for myself. When you're staring and you stand in your own thing, people misread you.
Yeah, they misread you, They judge you, they whatever.
And that's okay.
And I give zero fox.
You give zero fox because you know what you find your people, you find your girls, and you roll with those girls that understand.
Well, question what fucks do you give? Because everybody does give some fox.
I would like to be heard a little bit more. I would like the fuck I give is Hold on a second. Please listen to what I'm saying and understand that my hands are tied in a lot of situations. It looks one way, but I'm telling you it's another way. That's the only thing I really wish had happened was the women that I worked with not jump on blogs and salacious shit. And I said, just the woman that you know is standing in front of you. If you want to ask me a question, I can give you the best answer. Understand my hands are tied.
In a lot of ways.
Do we see a different Eric.
Yeah, I'm pretty calm, you know. I just didn't want to engage in the in the fighting. I think that the energy shifted off of my problems onto the group as a whole. You know, we are in entertainment. It is a show. It is and everybody needs to step up. I don't like the spotlight being on one person and let's pound on Teddy or Tam or Yeah, like, let me, where are the rest of you stepping up and showing whether you're struggling or you have compassion? And I don't like and I'm going to say this for everybody. I don't like it when people try to read the audience yes, and read social media. Hey, if I like you, I'm going to fucking say, you know what, I know this woman and I like her, and she's been good to me.
And I don't care you mean.
Like like cast members that are influenced by what they see and Twitter and all.
The social Yeah, I can't stand that. I can't stand it. And that was the one thing Like Lisa Runna. I'll tell you what I told her.
She said to me, look, Erica, I'm sticking by you, but if it turns out another way, I have to. And I said, Noah, I respect that. Stay in it with me. She said, you know what, I'm going to walk alongside you. I don't need anybody to hold my hand. But what I do need is for when I say, just please listen. You know that's all I'm really looking for.
Do you think that we see a different side of you without having your Thelma and Louise?
You're sure, of course, I think that. Obviously, when you switch up the cast, you have the new people, you have new blood. It's a new day. Yes, you see a side, and it's not that it's a retracted side. Several things changed.
Yeah, were you concerned going into the season not having Lisa Renna?
You weren't, No, because I came in, you know, with Yolanda, and then she left. So you have to make friends and you have to make those connections.
So, but Renna was such a big character on that show.
She was and she's missed, and I think Teddy's missed and I missed Teddy because by the way, we would you know, I mean I would always have to say, honey, what happened? And she'd be like this is what was said? Like, you're right about that.
If you can bring one person back on the show, who would it be?
And why I bring a couple, I bring Lisa back, I bring Teddy back.
Well, I won Teddy in Orange County, so it might go there. It might be a struggle.
I think, would you ever come back?
I wouldn't come back as a friend.
No, No, I'm not talking about that.
Yeah, no, I would, I would, you know, I would do I like to make money. Listen, and I think that I've really found my voice.
I love you here, by the way, and when we did, when we came over and did your podcast at the.
When you supported me when everyone hated me. Yes, that's how you know somebody is a truth us. Of course, you guys, because together and I was being humbled. Yes, yes, absolutely, and y'all didn't give a fuck no, And that's friendship. I'll tell you why, because I'm not going to let outside voices tell me what I know is true. I don't need to be liked by anonymous people. I need to be liked by the people that I actually know and stand in front of.
You might be surprised by this, but the most asked question was about your way.
Of course, can.
You please clarify this because when you said on Watch What Happens Live it was from menopause. I feel like you needed to expand on what you meant by that, because then everyone's like, well, those sun made comments like I'm on menopauseit and I'm like.
By the way, sudden, Well, I could blast her right now, but I'm going to choose not to.
But this is the place to do it if you like, so here's.
What I was going through menopause, and I expanded and they knew want help, and then I went and I got help. I did the same thing, right, But.
Did you explained to them a little bit about what it is.
So hormonal replacement therapy. I'm implanted with certain amount of hormones. I'm on a lot of different hormone regimen and it takes you down and it makes you better. It balances your hormone and that gave me a chance to number one, drop a whole lot of puffiness. I stopped drinking and I totally changed my regimen. So it wasn't like, oh, I lost weight during menopause.
No.
I sought help during menopause and came down, and so should everybody else that feels that way. Yeah, and I wanted my career back.
That's the first thing, Okay, I would tell my clients in the fitness industry. If you're over you know, forty five to fifty.
You need to go have your levels check. Go get your levels checked. And everybody's like, well, my gun to college is who the fuck said?
Thank you? Do not go to coologist because what they will tell you you're within rain and that's not optimizing.
Yes, so that is what I wanted to that hormone doctor. And the fact that everybody's like Eric is saying she lost weight and menopause. It's bullshit.
You know, she lost weight balancing out her hormone ostomizing my fucking hormones.
And I'm here to tell you this, after all my melanomas and all the cancer stuff, they made me stop being on all the hormones. Yes, and I gotta tell you it's freaking brutal right now.
Like I understand, I.
Have honestly, and I not to share too much, but I have been on my period for four weeks. It never stops.
It's really hard, like hell.
It's so if you have the opportunity to go and get your hormones checked. I knew that's what you meant, but it was such a quick sound everyone took it. But what is your thought on people constantly commenting on people's weight at this point or if they're on a ziba?
Yeah, I don't give a fuck. First of all, it's no one's business what you do with your body. It's your body, your choice. Why all of a sudden, is it like you know my business to know what you do privately with your with your person. Yesterday I did a press junket for bed at All on Blonde and this question came up more than once. So what do you have to say about it? I said, Look, my answer stands then and it stands now. I did what I did to my body. I optimized my hormones. I was going through menopause, and I sought help. Okay, that is the truth. And whatever you want to do. By the way, ozimpic is old. Okay, it's been around for over a decade and it's been used as weight loss for over a decade. So you guys are late. Whoever is like jumping on this train, You're way late. And there are many ways to cut weight, and we'll just leave it right there. And also I want to say this, I got such a terrible backlash for making an offhanded remark regards to a Crystal regards to Crystal, So you also see my answer saying I really don't want to talk about this because we have someone on our cast that struggles with an eating disorder and I really don't want to get into it because I already got killed for making, you know, a flip comment. But for somehow or another. Every woman is either too fat or too thin, you know, like stay the fuck out of our bodies.
But also, you can't win, Honestly, you can't win.
It really should just be about what we personally want. And there are certain times where I feel like, Okay, I want to be the strongest I can be right now, or you know what, my body's tired. I want to focus more on this and I want like you're gonna go through different phases in your life, leaned.
Out because of my show, and you also saw me on Broadway. I was leaned in.
I delivered a full term baby at one hundred and twenty eight pounds. Okay, I got pregnant at one eighteen and delivered a full term baby at one twenty eight, so this is not unusual for my body.
But also, and sorry to say this, part of your marriage. When you're happy, what happens your emotions?
Yes, so too, and ship and also too, when you are divorced and you are depressed.
Well, your cortos all levels go up, and then all of a sudden you start getting belly waite and all.
Of it, and you're on antidepressants and you know all this ship and you're drinking. It's like, you know, when you come on.
There's there's multiple things.
Just worry about yourself and it's fine.
Okay. The next question, this is a fan one. Does your joke about Deree and PK's marriage from last year's Bravo con.
It bothers me very much? You know why? Because I didn't know they were having problems.
Yeah, so you just said I was there and you were just being snarky.
I was being on the moment and if you look back, you say, I don't you hear me say I don't want to answer this question. Yeah, right, and you see Kenya and I and he and Andy says you got to do it, and I was like, I walked out and I.
Was like, th eat in. PK was little.
Really I should have said, you should have said Lisa and Harry as a joke.
And I didn't come out and so and so, yeah, have another episode.
It's right behind your pain to please.
Here's the other thing.
I knew she took it bad when I text her and there was no response.
Did you text her immediately?
Yes?
I did. That's a good quest.
Sorry, Well, we were on a group chat and and first I texted because we're you know, this is when Fox first five was still a group chat, which it is not anymore. It's not anymore, but it should return. I know it should, but why is it not? I sent a text I'm not sure, and mine was so trivial. Mine was just three Why fucking hit me when I'm down? People like to make fun of my style? Of all the people at Bravo Conn, why did you need to point me out for having bad style?
And the next thing, I come in and I'm like, Eric, you know, Erica says, I'm so fucking sorry, and you know I was it.
Okay for her to go after you and your style, but.
It's is different than marriage.
I do think you agree, like clothes are not as important as it was.
Just that was kind of the demise of our group chat because it was like first my comment, then me, then Erica, and then all of a sudden it was like silence, duh dum. I don't know.
I feel like I come from the mentality like if it's not true, laugh it off.
I know, but it was that was the problem that I was, yeah, okay, and I didn't know, and then she told me, and Deiy also reveals some other things that happened to her, you know, post home invasion. Yeah, post home invasion. That are pretty heavy and I understand, and had I known that, I would.
Have never fucking said it, But well, you're not a mind reader.
And also too, they are the two most fun, you know, but everybody, you know, it comes out that Kyla Mauricio were struggling three and p K were struggling so in their marriages.
You know, I didn't know.
Who do you think is the center of attention this season? Is there one person.
Or is it just like spread around?
I think that you know Kyle in the you know, why aren't you wearing your wedding rink?
Shit? I haven't worre my wad?
Do you think that she?
Do you think that Kyle has the hardest season this year out.
Of the cast? Probably?
I mean from what I've and you know this, the two of you know this from what I shot and what I've seen. But then again, unless there's some revelation that I wasn't present for, I'm.
Going with Kyle.
Do you guys know when you air?
I was told November, but I'm not sure.
Yeah. Do you think that the two people that pander to Twitter the most are Sutton and Garcal.
I do feel that way. I felt that way in the past, and I hope it changes. I feel like, you know, they get a lot of fan love, but I haven't seen that well. I mean, I was out of line with Garcel's son, yeah, which I take full of, you know, responsibility for and have apologized and thankfully she accepted my apology. Yeah, but I do feel like, yes, I would like to see them have their own individual voices.
Yeah. Yeah.
And we also heard that Anna Marie has a really tough season.
Wait, no, I thought Anna Marie laid it on Crystal. And she's the new our new cast member. She came in like mid to three quarters.
Our sons play football together, so I know, you know, yeah.
She's a cool chick. I didn't think she had it tough at all. I thought she laid the smack down on Crystal. She said something in Spain. I was like, oh, she said, I made you relevant.
I was like, oh, those are housewid Crystal ever pulled her tail in between her legs and actually show up as the person that I originally.
Referred to that yeah, said that she was. She's finding her way and I think she's shown that more this year than she has the previous years. But I think that Crystal and I've you know, look when I was going through all my shit, Like you can see that scene of us at the bar when she's crying and I'm like, girl, like give me another tequila, come on, come on, come on.
She just.
You know, she hesitates in the moment, and I think she's found her voice more and more as it goes along.
And she needed to.
Yes.
So who are you closest with this season?
You know, I'm always close with Kyl andd Read, I mean, and we were spread apart as well, like I really was in my own place.
Everybody was kind of.
We had a cast trip here in Vegas, and you know, I just I want the women to really be themselves. I don't want them to do shit for camera. Yeah, if that makes any sense across the board on all the shows, just don't guys think it's not there. Don't push it, don't push it. Don't push it. It'll show up.
Do you think we saw the real Diane? I love Diana, I know you do, but I really got a rough go watching her.
I think it's you know, it's not her first language. I think that she is Diana's a boss. I'm gonna tell you something, Diana and Diana, if you're listening, I want you to understand, this is the most respectful comment I could ever give you. She has fuck you money, She does what she wants, when she wants, how she wants it, and it is you would love her five minutes in her She's archetype of woman like.
She So you've never met her. I met her one time and I liked her, But I did say this. I do think if you come into Housewives and you have fuck you money, you're not willing to give one hundred percent because.
Well, I think it depends on the person.
I think that she They they cut Diana back a bit because she laid into Sudden so hard that it was it was ruthless.
Oh really, I would she And I'm.
Not talking out school, but I mean the Diana, I no will. I saw her lay some people out and I was like, god damn, like you know, yeah, she's and I see her and you know, she just had a new baby girl and I and I need to go see her. She wished me like she is a solid, solid friend and both of you would really like her five minutes in her presence and you'd be like, I get it. And she has a really good personal story to tell that I don't think red and came across.
Yes, okay, I need.
To get her on the pod now.
She laughs at herself, but she's very shy. She laughs at herself and she's very self deprecating, and she's like, you know, she came from a war torn Soviet country and made her way to London and was selling silver on the side of the street, like this chick is.
We needed to see more. We didn't understand.
We didn't get it. We didn't get it. It didn't land.
Can you tell us a little bit about Denise this season? Girl?
So, first off, I think Denise is a very sweet person, but you got to show up for you know, you can't run, you can't cut and run.
But then why is she back? Yeah, that's a question for her, you know whatever. She's declined to respond to me. I think I'm blocking. She tried.
She sent me a very nice text after the SOFI the final party, and I haven't responded, and I need.
I heard she didn't wear the crutch color.
She didn't wear white. I don't know.
I heard that she didn't wear white, and neither did Camille. I'm like, it's one assignment.
Well, you had some drop ends this season, so you had we.
Did, we had, We had Cynthia whose friends with sudden odd pairing, but maybe they don't.
I have no idea she does everybody, Yeah, Cynthia. Here's the thing. Cynthia does the pod with me, and what I really like. She's like the ambassador. Yea, she has, but she can compartmentalize. She can't like she's never once talked to me about Sutton. She's never I assume she doesn't talk to Sutton about me, Like she's able to do that, which I appreciate. And classy lady, and she's fun. But I read that you were high while Denise was coming for you stuff.
Our girl Kyle gets this chef that cooks with THHC. And I'm stupid enough to be like, sure, I'll do it.
Neither food or it's like a brozone.
No, No, it's in the food.
And he's a well respected chef and it's really lovely, beautiful, like fine cuisine.
And you and I actually eat at dinners.
Yes, right, and so I ate it.
And Justin Sylvester was really eating it.
So I'm sitting there and I'm having a good time, and the Denise, who's sitting across from me, all of a sudden starts bringing up shit from like four or five years ago. Have herm and I was like, honey, I literally was in bringing up Cynthia.
I was so confused.
And so it's the whole table that Cynthia said, could you bring up a specific thing?
Like she's very good at being like, okay, now explain it, let's take it down.
Could you come up with a specific moment? And could she?
No?
I mean she did, but you know what you do? Just go watch the show. I was like, babe, I watch the show, like, honey, we're in the show, like we're doing the show, like we're making the show. You know what you did? Just watch the show? I was like, what are you talking about? It?
Didn't Denise leave the show on her own?
Yes? And then she missed it and then she didn't show up.
So then when I shoved to the final party, and.
So then when I saw her for Taco Tuesday, I was pissed and I was like, you know, I was like, look, you are misdirecting this anger. You need to take it out on Brandy Glanville, Lisa, Rena Teddy and I said, you know what, And remember when I text you and I said, can you remind me again?
And I had a full list of things. But also I want to point out that at our reunion it was on Zoom. It was and this was how Denise was doing the reunion. And these were not notes. This was her script for whatever was Really this was her script for uh, what was the soap she was on?
Oh?
I don't know, but whatever, yeah, whatever, all whatever fucking soap she was on. But while we're all talking, she's only fans.
No, that's later this year.
That's when she's sunning later. But do you know what sunning is?
By the way, Oh no, butle you so your buttle?
Well no, but you're supposed to sign your buttthole twenty to thirty seconds a day for yeah. But either way, she's so checked out that she's memorizing her lines for her script tomorrow, and I'm like, what, what, who are we even fighting with here? So when it looks like it's this like bully mentality, it's because you're arguing with somebody that's checked out.
She was checked out and then she checked back in with me, and then I had to check back.
In with her.
So was she even mad at you about.
I don't really know you know what you did and what you did to Garcelles's son. I was like, you weren't even there for that. I've already apologized for that, and you know we've made up, Like, you don't need to come back in like three and a half four years later and try to check me for something that I really don't remember. And by the way, you know, Denise, I don't want to do this. And I kept saying I don't want to do this. I don't want to fight with you, and she called me a fucking bop monster. She called me all a fucking bob monster, as if I sent the bots to Garcel's son. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
I have a question. She was her most drunk night from the season before.
Oh, probably Diana's Christmas party. I was singing along with Asher and all that shit.
My question is, do you think that Denise was as drunk as you?
Well, she had her jacket on upside down, so I would say that that was pretty much I've never I've done a lot of shit but I've never worn my clothes upside down?
And did she have her true religions on front backwards?
Well, I'm just kidding no, not not not the two times I saw did she?
But did she have her Casamigo's repisodo in her purse?
That I'm not sure? Oh my god, that I did not see that.
But you know the only you saw it on the plane ride?
Well, yes, but I didn't see it this year, Teddy. But I will say this, the one thing I will say about Denise's Remember she did get us snacks, and she did get us security.
Well because she thought we were filming a movie.
Like craft Services. Yeah, remember she goes, Where's Craft Services? I was like, bitch, are you kidding me?
I mean, that's like the actress twenty minute break. I'm like, we've been here six minutes.
Speaking of actresses, how would you feel if Heather Dubrow joined the Real Housewife of Beverly Hills.
Okay, I had a conversation with Heather Dubrow at and it was really nice, the first time we'd ever connected. I don't know. All I know from Heather is that we had a nice time. And look, obviously I don't cast so I don't know you know her better than I do. I had a nice time with her, We had a nice conversation. That's where I leave it.
I have a question, how do you do with bragging?
Bragging? People that brag? I mean, okay, like once, twice, three times?
But I feel like that shows insecurity.
I feel like it shows I don't need you to perform for me. Are you trying to tell me how rich you are?
You don't need to post.
I already know. I can see it. I have eyes. I can see that you're.
Esthetic, really and also to hooray, I'm really happy for you. That's so wonderful for you. Yeah, I don't like again. All I'm saying is I met her at Bravo com. We had a really nice time, and you know, in that moment that was great. I don't know her outside of that, so I can't really make like a fair judgment.
I get it. And I have a question, and why the hell is Sutton offended to be at Magic Mike?
Well, it felt very inauthentic, if you know what I mean by that. It felt very forced and produced, and I you know, we're talking about someone who had a stack of bills that wanted to have a good time. Mikey's partner Davis starts some Magic Mike and we'd worked with them to you know, get the shows together. They were excited to take a cast photo, but you know, Sutton showed out and showed her ass and threw a tantrum. And I think the thing that I was most disappointed in not Sutton throwing a tantrum, which is pretty much par for the course, but the way the other girls ran to her and like, oh my god, oh my god.
And I was just like, did all the girls run to her?
Except to read like she came back the last two people that were having fun at Magic Mike was to eat and myself.
How can you not have fun at Magic Mike?
Well, you know what you're walking into, and so why.
Are you If you're offended by a situation, then sad, I'm.
Not And that's cool.
But she was the one that wanted to go live Best Vegas like, and we had arranged it with the show with the producer to make sure that every girl got a chance on stage with it with the mic, you know, And that's what it's like, Kyle the candy Shop. I did what Crystal and I did something together.
And I know those boys.
They used to yeah, I mean one of them, Davis dances very like I know them and they're my friends.
To inappropriately touch such an absolutely not zero like lesson zero negative.
I mean we were there to have a good time, and so they were very upset, like the pr for Magic Mic like got in my ass and why'd she go? Exactly?
Just nobody forced you.
No, nobody forces you to do anything on this show. But you know, people make choices and there we go. And I was disappointed in that. But I got on this brinder and I was like, hey, okay.
Yeah, here we go, Here we go. Coming from me again, if would you ever do Ultimate Girls Trap?
Just gonna ask me to don't want to fight? I don't. I don't want to do that. I don't want to get into a situation.
Even if I was to do Ultimate Girls Trip, you wouldn't go with me.
I would go with you. I would go with someone.
As I had, someone.
Of you know what I need. I need someone that's steady. I don't want to go into a cock fight. Does that make sense?
But I want to go with Sutton right now and then go.
And rely on each other to just bring balance, not not help me out, but just balance to the situation.
I will say, somebody that has done Ultimate Girls Trip, You're going in with a bunch of girls that some I didn't know, some I did know. So there wasn't really a lot to fight about because you don't know them well enough to go there.
Did you have fun?
I did have fun?
Good.
I mean I wish I was in like Thailand or something Johanna's house, but it was COVID season, so I mean, and her house is beautiful, and.
She's sweet, she's very still something. Durn has been very supportive of me.
She was one of the first people to reach out to me and be like, hey, are you okay?
Ramona? Do too?
I mean, they're Ramona. Yeah.
I get hills on that.
She came on my pod on our pod and didn't know my name.
No, that's kind of like, you know, she called Lisa vander Pulp Lisa Vanderbilt, and I was.
Like, I've known Romona like seventeen years. That's Ramona who she is. She stays true to who she is.
She is, that's just who she is.
Yeah.
But Dernda's a girl's girl.
She's and she text me like I invited her the night. You know, she's very caring. I want to reach.
Out to the she is. She's a good, good girl, she's.
A good egg.
She's good TV.
I think she's good TV. She's a good egg. But what I want to spend my ten days fighting with people at her house? Probably not. I'd rather be in Turks and caicos.
I don't want to fight with anyone. I want to go and have a nice time.
And that's not always going to happen.
I know. That's why I'm not doing it.
Well, you are doing it if it's us together. I just now sign I signed us up, Jesus. Okay, next thing out of all of the franchises, hottest house husband. No, it doesn't have to be Beverly Hills Ship. It's all across the board.
And I know the husband's on our show, but I'm trying to think of who the.
Or even Bravo celebrity. Was there anyone like at Bravo Conn where you were like, shit, he's hot?
Yeah?
Like are you always attracted to an an elder male?
No, I'm actually seeing someone younger. Now hold on, now, hold on?
What was he there last night?
Yeah?
Holy shit.
Hold On, Erica, you need to give us some more information.
Because because I promised we'd be private.
Hold On, but I need to know in our section. Does he have brown hair, blonde hair or gray hair? Okay, look at.
The chills last black black hair and brown skin.
Hold On, was he on stage? No? Okay, let me continue my line of questioning so I can figure out exactly who is live in La.
Yes?
How old have you been dating?
He's younger than me?
I understand what is he younger than me? I'm forty to two.
He's doing good than you. He's in his late thirties soon. Oh my god, I'm in.
Such true because are you the breadwinner?
Not necessarily? Why would you ask that?
Because I need to fucking know necessarily. No, you don't need to know.
It doesn't matter who makes the money.
Well, you're saying that because you get ship for that with Eddie. But it's not a judging men. I know, but people say that about you. But I'm just curious if.
He's I'm the more famous person in the Relaysia or infamous at this point infamous person?
Is he a public person at all?
Not at all? Ok, That's why we keep it and.
What do you are you going to show him next season on Beverly Hill?
Oh? Absolutely, yes, No, Come on, guys, I deserve a lot.
Do you think this is long term?
I don't know.
It's day by day, but I take day by day. I'm not I'm not saying that as a relationship. I'm saying that as a life like it's moment to moment, as long as it feels good and we're happy.
I'm good.
Because they showed those pictures of you walking in with that guy that maybe owned South Holding.
Wait a second, hold on, no, First of all, this is so wrong. Michael Gone was a contemporary of Tom's and that is not true. And he's a lovely man that I've never done anything more than shake his hand and be kind to my private lawyer, Jim Wilkes, a dear friend of mine. We walked into the fucking Caesars and you know.
Oh, I saw that picture and all of a sudden, it was there was.
The guy, that guy, and then there was the guy that owns South Point. That everybody's decided.
It's not true. It's it's so.
I haven't seen Michael Gone in years, and you know he doesn't he wouldn't even know that any of this is happening.
Well, the problem is is somebody. So many people are invested in who you're going to date next. Yeah, and so anytime you're seen with somebody, I'm sure they're like, she's dating and if it's an older man, you know they're going to jump.
All over that, of course, and they're so very wrong.
Yeah. So, and just to kind of ask you, because you did say menopause all of those things, how have you been able to maintain your urge for like sexuality and continue to.
Implants change honey? And they're good.
I probably having the best sex of my life right now. And I've had a lot of good sex in my life, So all right.
Favorite position.
Last night it was, let's see, I was on my bed. That's why you didn't go out with Yeah? She was doing the reverse cowboy. No, I don't like that hurts the positions. My mom loves that.
You know what I have? She took out of colleges say to me, you have a very long pelvis. I was like, you, damn right, I do.
By I almost had a wardrobe malfunction last night. Did you see I thought you saw me because I went like this, and then you fixed it. I fixed it.
One of my costumes. I need to by the way, it's in my trunk on the way home. I need to adjust the crotch of it.
So and you were very self conscious about it. Because I saw that you.
Self conscious, I wouldn't say that I was kept throwing.
I kept throwing it in front.
Yeah, and we might have saw.
One lip that's okay, but it's worse.
But here's an any.
But I we didn't see that much.
No, I could tell that she was I'm an any, but you're writ I didn't.
It was not that bad.
And the one, the one piece of that costume was not my favorite. So we're gonna have it worked on.
No, but you looked so hot. You looked so beautiful. My dad actually called and he's like, what are you doing. I'm like, oh, I'm in Vegas, Erica Jane has a residency, and he goes, well, you better be sending me those videos. My next question is it's a tom question, and I'm sorry people are asking and I.
And you'd find part of my life life accepted.
I'm looking at the fan questions and I was like, listen, we got to narrow these down because it's just too much. But a lot of people are saying the way that he entered into the courtroom and the oversized coat, and I didn't see it. He I mean, essentially, he looks very disheveled and granted, if he allegedly has dementia, that makes sense, but people are saying the fact that they dressed him in a way that looked like he didn't have things together was some sort of an act.
Okay, Number one, I didn't look at it because I had a show to do.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I will go back maybe and look at it if I feel like I should. When the last time I saw him walk into a federal courthouse, and I you know, it's clearly he's blind in when eye and he had holes in his favorite Kshmir sweater. Okay, I don't know what he looked like. I hope that his daughters and his son are keeping his dignity, you know, I don't know. I hope his hair is cut. I hope he's clean, he's doing Okay. He didn't look good.
Yeah, and he.
Looked like a different man than I ever.
Saw and he is and he is, but you know he is. But you were with him for so long. Yeah, is this I mean, I know breaking that's gonna say.
Yes, it break your heart.
Yes, all of it breaks my heart. But also he broke your heart. He broke my heart to I know. But she's human and she spent so much time with him.
It's hard to disconnect after twenty something years. And you know, and look, obviously I know a different Tom. And I met with some of the Gerardi Keys clients that have.
Not been Oh yeah, I wanted to you can talk to.
Me about that.
And they were very kind to me, and they did not have to be. And I went there with an open heart with no one.
Knew I was going. How was that set up through one of my private lawyer who was walking through Caesar's. Yeah, yeah, my boyfriend from Caesars right now.
I commend you for not having cameras there, not so disgusting. Yeah, not showing it, not trying to make a public time. Was doing their own thing. And I showed up and I met with the ladies. But the Bravo cameras are not there. No, and they're not trying to prove a point. Hey, I'm trying to help.
No, no, no, no no, And I don't know, I don't know essentially what they took away from it, but I needed to show up because they needed to feel who I really was right and then they can make their own judgment after that.
And what did you feel was the end result after meeting with them?
I don't know, but I felt peace.
You would have to ask them and I sat there and I answered as many questions as I possibly could, and I think that they understand that there was much more at play than the woman at the front.
You know, which was.
Something that I don't was shared that much on the show, or at least when I watched, was how you originally even met Tom. The different you guys were in complete different power dynamic.
I had no power and he.
Had all of it. And like I said earlier on the pod, you know I was at what is now Mastros. It was then the second generation of Chasin's two four six cannon drive. You have to understand something, like I said earlier on this show, Gerardy Keys had been in business long before I was born. You know, Tom is much older than I am. You don't at twenty seven years old walk in and say show me the books. Also number two, there's are client protected you know it's it's very private. I can't look into a client you know whatever.
Nor would you even want to Not only.
That, not can't, I cannot, and I wouldn't understand what the fuck I was looking, nor.
Would he put you in that position.
No, And he wants you to feel I mean, I'm just assuming he wants you to feel powerless so he can feel powerful, so he has all the control.
But that's how he's he was with everybody. Yeah, not just me, but with everyone.
But even if he.
Gave you the books, you know what the fuck you're looking at?
Why what he and you're right, look, okay, what is this?
What is this?
And if your husband comes to you and he's a by all accounts, a powerful, successful, educated person, right and you go here a text returns.
Okay, cool, Yeah, I signed shit all the time.
Even my own fucking lawyer said to me, I ain't fucking looking at this shit, you know, like.
And it's like a telephone book.
We're not working at like you know, I'm not trying to shit on anybody, but you're talking about a complex business.
And you trust that if somebody is in law, they're following the law.
Honey, Yeah, this is I knew that Tom would get to the finish line before I would be just simply short of a massive accident, because he's older than I. But I could have never predicted this sort of end where it ended in ruins and you know, just just grace and all of these things that he's being charged with, and uh, it sucks, but you still answer his calls or no, I do. He called this morning to ask me how my show was.
And what'd you say? And I'll talk to you later and I and I know this is going to be hard and it's emotional, but I've always wanted to ask you this, Why the fuck didn't he come to roxy?
Because he didn't care? Because he didn't care, He didn't care. He was wrapped up in his own things. And sometime I'll sit down and I'll really tell you about it. But he didn't care enough to show up. But he would ask me for tickets for other people, for referring lawyers.
You care enough. I know, it's okay, it's okay.
You know it's hard to ask you in a public form, but I just I just was thinking about that that I remember when you said that, and it was it was flippant because we're at the reunion.
But he also didn't read my book, so it's not unusual. I was in a different relationship. He was also having affairs. He was, Yeah, so, and have any.
Of those women ever contacted you?
They wouldn't contact me. That wouldn't be a good idea.
Yeah, yeah, that wouldn't be a good not for any of us. I'd choke for you at your door. Let's go.
Did you ever think when this was all going down, this is it?
Yeah? Like, how do I get out of this?
Of course, that's why last night what you saw was such an unbelievable resurrection. I thought, you know, look, when I chose to leave, it was at the last possible moment where I was like, I can no longer live here underneath all of this madness, insanity and uncertainty and who knows what the fuck is going on? Like Erica, you have to At the time, I was like forty nine, I was like, you have a good you know, chunk of your life left, the last third of your life left, like the hard of.
Your life left. Thank you. It's the best.
It definitely feels good now. But you know, I was like, this man has made decisions, and you can't change them, and you've got to go out and course correct and look out for yourself because this man has made serious choices.
But I think that that's the biggest part that people have missed, is yeah, they hardener that I was like, well how much? I mean, I only met Tom three times in the you know, four years that we filmed together, and every single time it was a show.
But that's who he was, right, it was.
A show on him and you sat there so subservient.
Well, I was very.
Respectful, That's what I'm saying.
I was grateful and he was orderline degrading that at times, which is from what I saw on the show.
But you you know what Alex Baskin told me, He's like, actually, we had to go back and cut it out because he was so degrading that if we didn't make it better for you, you would have never survived them.
Yeah.
I've never met the man, but just from what I saw on.
The show, he's a rough man.
What is your one non negotiable that you want in your partner?
Now there's a sense of I'm just gonna it's a blanket word freedom. Don't ask me where I'm at, trust me. I need to work. I need to rebuild. Don't hold me back?
But is it more import can it be instead of a don't? Can it be support me? How about believe in me? Walk alongside me? Yes, thank you?
Just walk alongside me?
Is it more about you right now? And if you can come along with me, it's great, that's right and right now me.
And if you can't, I understand. But right well, not even kick rocks, you know what, God bless you. But it's more walk alongside me because I have to restore myself. Yeah, and no one for you, no man but my mother, no one.
You know what.
It's my turn to stand up and read your life, my own life.
How did your mother deal with all this?
I'm almost super supportive. My mom was at the show the opening night. We celebrated her seventieth birthday of the night before, and she was super supportive. My mom gets you know, my mother, you know she gets it. And so I'm very grateful. And so was my son.
Your son was there?
No? No, he wasn't there. He spends the night with his mom every now and then.
But he have his own place now or is he still?
No?
No, no, he's had his own home for for years and he comes down and hangs out with his mom every now and then.
So I'm super grateful.
He in the town well Erica. I thank you so much for no I love you and I am so I miss you. I miss you too, And I think that you are one of those people saw to the earth like You're gonna tell it like it is, no matter if it's good or bad. But there has never been ever since we got close, there has never been a moment that I've struggled with anything that You're not one of the very first texts or calls from someone. And I think that speaks magnitudes and it also inspires me because there are moments where I hold back from doing that because I'm like, oh, I have talked to this person in a couple of weeks, or you know it's going to feel and you just do it.
I do you do it, And I don't want anybody to feel alone, you know what I mean. And if I if it's on my heart, I'm reaching out, yeah, you know. And I do that because I know how fucked up it can be.
So I thank you, and I thank you for supporting us and this person getting to know you.
It's been so much fun.
And we love being there for you last night and anything that you ever need, like we are one hundred percent here for you, for you. And when we start recapping Beverly Hills, if you do dumb shit, just forgive us because we're probably talk shop for a week. I don't give a fuck.
You know how it goes. And I want to say one thing. I remember when I was going through all of this ship and you sent me the whole like sort of like margaritea whatever, and you said, I think you need a drink.
And it was the sweetest, most.
Thoughtful thing, Margarita mixer.
And I was You're like, use, I'm going to be able.
To say anything eloquent here.
I have nothing to know so much And you know, it's the little things that go We all have a lot, but it's the small things picking up the phone, texting saying hey, are you okay?
Do you need anything? Like I'm here.
I get it, especially when you feel like, oh yes, And there are very few women that understand this job, you know, like housewives. Orbit is very small, very small, very small.
It's very small. And final thing, can people that are coming to Bravocon see your show.
Yes, we added one show.
Okay, I don't know the day off my hand, House of Blues, Mandalay Bay, bet at All on Blonde during Bravocan.
Yeah, you guys do not sleep on this because the closer that you get to the show, the harder it's going to get to get the tickets. And I'm gonna hear I'm here to tell you you are in the mix the House of Blues, which I've seen my dad play at. I've seen. I mean the fact that you're even playing at the House of Blues, like the amount of it fucking icons at that and you know how much I hate the word icon, but like the amount of icons that have played there is insane. So you guys do not want to miss opportunity. Go see about at All on Blonde, Go with your friends, have fun. There's gonna be songs that like you forgot that you even knew, and then you're gonna be like, yeah, between your original music, your new song, and the covers. Fun covers are fun, great, The background dancers are hot. Oh Edwin's wanting to audition though, you know what, anytime, can he just come on maybe for bro ye? Oh my god, Drew and Ralph are gonna be furious. It's crazy. Don't act like Eddie isn't bulking up for the same thing.
I love it.
Thank you so much, Erica, and you guys. Make sure to leave any questions, comments, anything else that you want to hear from us. We would love to get back to you. And also make sure to subscribe to our new podcast where we are watching seasons one of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and breaking. I know, I know, it's a subscription though, so y'all got to pay for it. This stuff we do for but it's worth for you, guys. But it's worth paying for because I never watched it, and maybe I would have made less mistakes had I watched it.
Well, you know, you probably wouldn't have come on. You were like, fuck this shit.
I didn't watch girl.
I was like, you know what, and then you get thrown in the fire. Yeah, you get thrown in the fire.
So go down memory lane watch it with us. Give us your comments. Also make sure that you come and support Erica Jane because she really is a true inspiration for those of us who have been fucking down and out and figured it out and fought for herself and she is incredible and she is a force to be reckoned with. And we are so grateful that she's here.
So thank you, thank you, thank you us very much.
You know what, I really appreciate the kind words and thanks for having me, Thanks for coming last night and come to the show.
Also, Erica gave us a shout out and she winked at us when she was on stage.
Shows up here.
I know we were having to well it was because someone came up was chatting and I was like, people kept coming out and you know, it's so funny.
And I'll close with this.
I was backstage in the lift coming up and you know, my my ears, I'm in ear, but I can also hear the house and I could hear people saying, oh my god, it's Tamra and Teddy, Oh my god. And I said to Mikey, who can you know who can hear me in my audio?
Guys, you can on me.
I was like, they are out there swooning and fan girling over.
Teddy and Tamra. I mean, I could hear it in the house.
But I mean it was pretty clear who's tam who Tarma's fans were, and who mine were. I was like, this is this really tracks?
But the boys she got all the Karens.
You know what it makes, It makes I love I love them both as of my fan base too.
So there you a show your tits a couple of times on TV and the gays love you.
I love you for it.
I haven't gotten there yet, but mine are too small. All right, thank you so much, Erica. We gotta go, and thank you ladies.
Let's all go to the airport. Yes, let's help out about alway
