Asset Management

Published Jun 21, 2021, 4:00 AM

Jana Kramer joins Teddi to talk about her "Mommy Makeover" aka "boob job".

Also, did you see this the botox blunder that went viral? Beauty blogger Whitney Buhu showed you every details of her botox gone wrong. It was described as a droopy eyelid but that doesn't quite do it justice. Even after what she went through, she may get botox again. WHAT?!?!

 

Dr. Kelly Killeen reveals how to avoid a BAD plastic surgeon and the warning signs you need to be aware of!

Dr. Kileen is double board-certified by the American Board of Surgery and the American Board of Plastic Surgery. She specializes in complex breast revision, breast reconstruction and breast & body aesthetic procedures. She still says you should only ever get plastic surgery on things that cannot be fixed with a healthy lifestyle.

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This is Teddy Teapot with cabinet. Hey guys, it's Teddy here with Teddy Teapot. This week I decided to talk about all things plastic surgery. I'm gonna have Whitney Boohad, Jane Kramer, and Dr Kelly Colleen all on to share their different experiences. I realized last week when I posted something about botox, people had a real visceral reaction. Either people were so grateful that I was opening up about things that I have done or that I do, or people were thinking it was terrible and the worst thing ever that I would promote that on my social media because people should love themselves as they are. And truly, my feeling is it's much more challenging to watch somebody that may you know, have a platform in any aspect pretending like they have never done anything, so that the people that you know wat to their stories or get to know them start to believe that, you know, it's all natural all the time. And I think that, you know, you each person has a choice what they want to share, but in regards to me, I have to be authentic, and you know, I figured we should do a podcast, The Good, the Bad, and the ugly of all of these you know, decisions that we end up making. And you know, I think Shannon Doherty posted something last week, you know, talking about how hard it was to um, you know, look at people on social media and compare herself to people that have had face lifts or get bo talks, and you know how it's just not an even playing field. So I mean it really, you know, open my eyes to so many discussions we can have. So I'm really excited to answer all of your listener questions today and really dig into this. So in a second, we'll be bringing on Whitney buhah. And I'm sure sometimes if you're aimlessly rolling reels, you know who Whitney Boohua is because she makes these hilarious videos because she got botox and it gave her a droopy eyelid, and she's decided to you know, kind of make you laugh while she's talking about it, but also educate us on some of the dangers that botox can lead to. Hi, Hi, thanks for joining us this week. Yeah, of course, thanks for having me. Well, we appreciate you sharing, and um, just to kind of get us started, do you mind just telling everyone what actually happened. Yeah, of course, like your story. Sure, So I guess I'll start from the beginning. I've been getting botox for about three years and typically always went in I really five to six months, so I'd say twice a year and kind of focus on my forehead, like my eleven lines and then just the lines on my forehead. Um. So I went in for my normal appointment and asked for those same things, and then her about like two or three days, I noticed that my left eyebrow was a lot lower than my right one. So I texted my injector and she told me to come back just a couple of days later, and she told me she would add four units just below my eyebrow on my left eye. And I honestly didn't know, you know, where you're supposed to inject versus where you're not supposed to inject. So I went back in, she added the units, and then about five days after that is when I started to see that my left eye was drooping like crazy. Um, it basically just was closing more and more. So it took about five days to kick in, and then from there for the next like a week and a half, I got progressively worse. UM, So it just started closing. And I don't know if you saw pictures, but just the difference in my eyes was crazy. And then my right I started overcompensating, UM, trying to open bigger because the left eye was so far closed. So I had this huge right eye and then this really tiny left eye. UM. And then from there, I mean, I texted my injector again, and I spoke with the plastic surgeon who's the head of the med SPA, and he referred me to someone else who kind of specializes in these types of things if something goes wrong, and I met with her about two weeks later, and they told me. What she told me, this expert i'd call her, is that UM, an injector should never touch you until at least two weeks after your initial injections, because the botox can take two weeks to settle. So which I went, yeah, just like a week later. So the botox hadn't fully settled at that point, and I had more added which could have caused could have maybe added to the problem. UM. But when I met with this other injector, she suggested adding two units of botox to my lash line, so like one at the front and one at the back, which freaked me out, but she said it was probably the biggest thing that would help me, so I decided to go ahead and do it. And then about two weeks after that, I think it had started to settle in and my left I started opening back up. And why while you were struggling with keeping your eye open, were you struggling with vision at all? You know, my vision was fine. It was more just the feeling like it felt super heavy throughout the day. There would be times I would be sitting at my computer and just kind of hold my lid up like this because I'd be working all day, and then it just felt very tired and very heavy. And not that it affected my vision, It just had this strange feeling of like a strain or that it was I just needed to blink a lot or close my eyes for a little while. Yeah, And then were you warned about this ever happening when getting bowtops? I know I've been told when I when I get botox' is like, oh, if we put too much here, you know, it can lift your eyebrows too much and you look surprised, or if you put too much here, your brows will start to, you know, go down. But nobody has really ever talked to me and said what happened to you could actually happen to any of us. Yeah, same, I had known similar things to what you said, or you know, the frozen look i'd call it, where they inject too much in your face doesn't move. Obviously no one wants that. But those were really the only risks or side effects that I knew. I didn't realize that this eyelid drooping could happen. Um. And I feel like I connected with so many women after this that also had no idea that this could be a side effect. And how long until you were fully recovered. So it's been a little bit over three months now, and in my opinion, I'm still not a hundred percent And it's probably hard for you to see looking at me or you know, i'd say that, if anything, this eyebrow is still a little bit lower than the right eyebrow. Um. But when I take a picture, it's funny because in video you can't really tell her face to face, you can't really tell, but if you take a photo you can see it a lot more. Um, And there's still a little bit of unevenness in my eyes and it's definitely way better than it was, but to me, it's still not a pent. And what did it do like to your m you're like mental state, like that first time you looked in the mirror and you started noticing that that was happening, And how did you kind of reconcile it? M hm, yeah, I think the initial when I first saw it, I was just really freaked out. I had no idea what was going on, and immediately I thought that this would be permanent damage because I've never seen my face look like this before, so it was just really shocking. Um. And I think the good thing was that I'm working from home. You know, we're still at that point, we were still kind of in lockdown and quarantine, so I wasn't going many places. But when I did have to go somewhere, it was super uncomfortable. I was very very self conscious. I wanted to keep my sunglasses on. I was parting my hair and like swooping my my like all the way in front of my left eyes. You couldn't even see it, so it was it was really hard. You know, you just don't feel very confident, you don't feel like you look like yourself and going out in public was very uncomfortable. So then how did you make like which I think your video are great, Like I like, they make me laugh, they're educational, it's all the things. So how did you get to the point where you were able to do that? Yeah? I mean it. I don't even know for sure. I think what started it was that, Um, I believe it was a Sunday night when it started to get really bad, and I had posted a video with my hair covering my eye, and I mentioned in the video that I had gotten bad botox and that's why I was covering my eye like that. And I received so many responses from followers and from people asking what do you mean you got bad botox? I didn't know you could get bad botox? What does that mean? Just so many questions and so much interest. So I sat with it for a few hours and thought about it and decided that I also didn't know how long I was going to look like that, so I couldn't hide my face forever. But basically decided that I might as well share this with everyone who has questions and has no idea that this could happen, because I didn't know this could happen prior either. Um, so I remember sitting down in my kitchen and just propping my phone up and had my hair is still covering my face. Started the video and was like, Okay, here we go, I'm going to show you it, moved it over and I just started talking about what had happened, and from there there was just such a huge response from people. Obviously, there are the people who are the trolls and are going to hate on you for getting botox in the first place, but the large majority was people who were very supportive and just had questions and wanted to understand more about how this can happen and how they can prevent it for themselves in the future. And then have you gotten botox since? And would you ever do it again? I have not gotten it since, But I can't say I'll never do it again, you know. I mean when I've had it in the past and it's good, it's great. You know, it makes your skin look better, it makes you feel better, and this obviously was a very unfortunate situation, but I can't say that I'd swear it off forever. And the person who did it this time was she the person that had done it prior as well. Yes, I've been going to her for over a year. And did she ever cop to like making a mistake? Was there something that she hit? Did she do it in the wrong location? Like what is kind of the signs if you're getting botox to maybe go this is a red flag? Yeah, so she I didn't hear much from her after um, but the other woman that I met with, who was more like the expert on fixing these types of things, really told me a lot of useful information and what she said. And obviously she didn't do the initial injections, so she doesn't know a hundred percent. But she received my chart from the medspot looked at all the markings where she injected, and from her analysis of that, she said that basically, there's two muscles right below your eyebrow, and if you hit one, that's going to cause your eyelid to droop, and they're right next to each other, so actually injecting under your eyebrows very dangerous. And most injectors don't go below the brow, they stay above the brow. So she said she would never inject below the brow. She would day away from that area because these muscles are so close together. That if you hit that one that's the wrong one, your eyelid will droop. So what she believes is that it was injected into the wrong area and that's what caused the eyelid potosis. And the first time that she did it, she went under your eyebrow. The so she went under the second appointment when my eyebrows were uneven. Okay, so your eyelid wasn't drooping at the first one. You were just noticing a difference in your eyebrow. Okay, that's the part that I missed. Okay, so that makes sense. So here pretty much the p s A is if you're getting botox and they go underneath your eyebrow, tell them to stop exactly, like do not inject their Wow. So you know, did you find that hearing from so many people and helping other people kind of go through the same thing helped your experience, like at least knowing like, Wow, I'm helping others, and you know, because I know when I'm when I'm struggling with something or when something happens. As long as I kind of like put put my best foot forward and like have those open, vulnerable conversation, it like makes the time go by faster and you feel like there's a purpose for it all. And definitely it was I think just talking to other people about it, and a lot of people could relate, maybe not necessarily to the eyelid drooping, but to other things. You know, people have had problems with getting their lips injected or areas around their mouth where the botox really relaxes that muscle and they can't smile. So maybe not the exact situation that I was in, but something similar where we could at least talk about it and commiserate and you felt like you weren't alone with it. So that really helped me to kind of get through it. Was talking with other people was the support I received that. You know a lot of people even though they get botox too, they were very supportive and they weren't you know, there were the people that weren't supportive, but I think that so many women do get botox and they now understand that this is a risk and they were appreciative of me sharing about it. Yeah, because I think if you going to do something, if you know the risk and it's still that important to you and you want to do it, and it's gonna make you feel better and it's something that you're confident in that decision, that's one thing. But if you're going in and you really don't know, and it's in the fine print of the sixty paper so that you sign before getting botox, then it can for sure happen. Um, So how do people find you? Because I I know that after hearing this, they're gonna have so many more questions from you, and you know, I want them to be able to see the videos. I want, you know, everybody to have that support if they are going through it as well. Yeah, definitely. So you can find me on Instagram. It's at something Witty and it's w h I T T Y awesome. Thank you so much for joining us and I appreciate you sharing your experience. Yeah, thank you so much for having me. Is great chatting with you. Say, al right, guys, we're gonna take a little break and we get back. We'll have Janet Cramer on talking all Things tatas all right, we are bringing Jana Kramer on. You can listen to Jana's podcast wind Down wherever you get podcast. Also, she has an awesome movie out on Lifetime called Soccer Mom. Madam highly recommend and after listening to us chat, if you want to go down the rabbit hole on who did her boobs and all of the information, you can find out more information on it on end A t R E l l e dot com. Hi, Funny, how are you good? Good? Thanks for joining us, Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. So you're in California this week? I'm in California. Yea, I have some work stuff I have to do, so um yeah, I I forgot how much I love California. It's just the weather is so nice. Although it's very hot today. It's so I'm in the valley and it is like over a hundred degrees already. Yeah, the same. I'm like, wait a minute, my Nashville. This humidity is like it's like you can just feel it, like it feels like Nashville. So I'm like, all right, I got a little pizza home with me here. Ye how are you? I'm good? I yeah, I'm doing as good as can be inspected that you know. Happy life is opening up over here now, like we can go out do things without masks. Like feeling good, feeling good. All right, let's get into chits. Let's please, let's please talk about it, Okay, So Jana, like myself, I had my boobs done after I had my son Cruise, and it's something I had thought about for a long time. But I also was in like a really tough place in my life, like in a really low place when I decided to get them done. And I remember being the you know, the recovery being hard, but I also now know years later, like how much I love them. Yes, and so going into how you know, how are you feeling? What made you finally like make the plunge for sure? So I like a few years ago, Um, I wanted to get them, but I think I didn't want to get them for myself, Like it was one of those things where I kind of think, or I know that I was more self conscious of my body and you know just how your boobs changed when you have kids. Um, it's one of those things where I was just super self conscious about and you know, I wanted to feel sexier. But again I think I was doing it. If I would have done it, then I would have probably gotten bigger than I wanted to, Like it wouldn't have been like for what I wanted. So I'm first of all, I'm so glad that I waited because I waited when it was the right time for me, and it just it was one of those things where I was like, okay, like and it's so hard because like in this day and age, like you know, we want to be proud of our bodies, and I think you can be both. I think you can be proud of your body, but I think you can also want to change things as well, and I think there's no shame in that. And I think you can love your body regardless. And for me, I was like, you know what, I don't like the way that this looks. I don't it didn't go back to normal like my like this is like tm I but like my Ariel was, I was like, oh my god, they stretched so much when I was pregnant. They didn't go back out. So it was just like I just have like this big old like and I'm like and then like you know, saggy boobs. I was like, you know what, like I what do what does Janna want? And I was like, okay, I want a small but yet you know, full size, and I want reconstruction of the nipple and like it was and now like I'm like constantly like people like and I never understood it, like when people got boobs, like you want to see my boobs, and I was like, sure, but now you want to see my boobs like I go around, you want to see my boots because I just I love them, like I'm and I and I'm so happy that I made the decisions for myself. And then I didn't listen to other people being like, oh, you should love your body the way you should. Yes, I one thousand percent agree with you, But I also think it's okay to change and do things that can make you a little more confident or make you feel better in your own skin. Yeah, and I think you know, while I'm gonna ask you how you ended up picking your surgeon and whatnot, But like when I picked mine, I remember loving her because I was like asking me, I'm like, listen, I'm athletic. I don't want to have like big old knockers like I just want them. I want to be able to not have to wear bra And she was like like, I want to be able to wear like a cute tank top and just be all right. And she's like looked at me and she's like, all right, you know this is the CCS. We think she goes, but I'm gonna need to cut, like I'm gonna need to do nipple reconstruction on you. I never even knew that was a thing. And I was like, what do you mean And she's like, well, I mean you want me to be blunt. I'm like yes. She's like they're like pencil erasers. They're so long. And I was like what, yeah. Yeah. My my doctor was like with my like varial as or whatever. He was like, it looks like you've got like two large salamis. And I was like okay, Like okay, we didn't have to be like me, but you're like okay, And then I was. But now it's like so I was like, wow, so many other things changed other than just the fact that like, yeah, I don't have to wear a bra, but also I like don't have constant, like hard nipples that I'm like having to wear padded bras and do all of these things. So like, for me, it had multiple benefits. But how did you pick your surgeon? So I had met with a few surgeons um in Los Angeles before I had moved to Nashville, and I kept saying that the doctors like no, like I want I want them to be small, and they're like no, no, no, like you're gonna want to go bigger, you should get at least three three ccs and like no, like I don't like how that looks. And because they did like the three D thing, I was like, I would prefer that the smaller ones. But I felt like he kept like wanting to push me. He's like every girl who's out of surgery and says they wish they were bigger. And I'm like, okay, well I'm not that person, like I want them again like you like I'm like I like to run. I like I'm very athletic, like I don't I don't want to be, you know, like dealing with jugs as well. So, um, when I met with my doctor Unger Nashville, he was just like he got me. He's like, you want cute, perky, you know, like just nice rounded fits your body so much so that I trusted him that on day of surgery, I was like, hey, if you want to go bigger, like I trust you. If you think it fits my body, I trust you. And so he tried like he put in like these um like different size implants and He's like, it just didn't look good on your body. So I ended up he ended up taking some fat out of my right boob because my right boob was always gonna be bigger. But he put to sixty in my right boob and two eighty in my left, and I just again, I totally trusted him, and he just made me feel really comfortable. And uh, you know a lot of I got so many comments about like b I I, and you know, why would I do this? And I'm putting, you know, toxic stuff into my body. But he just calmed my nerves about all of it. And I will be honest with you. When I looked at the b I I stuff, I was like, I don't even have boots and I have all the symptoms. So I've had to mute some people because they know about it so much that I'm like, oh, I do you know what? I am tired? You know what I do anxiety? I am very tired, and I have confusion sometimes, and I'm not I'm not knocking people that have it, and I have I have empathy for people that do go through it, but I don't think that's everyone's experience, and I don't think they should push that on everyone that it's going to happen to us, Yeah, to to every to each his own, and you have to do what kind of like makes you feel the best. But a lot of people don't know about like that fat fat transfer part. Like I remember, I end up getting like two tensecs. They also told us like do you want it to be under the muscle? Do you want it to be like I forget the shapes, but they ask you like different shapes, like do you want it to be rounded at the top or do you want it more job. I wanted more of like I didn't want a big right here. I just wanted it like a low profile yeah, low profile. Yeah. So I did that. But then they're like, okay, so we found a spot that will take the fat from if we need to like give you more volume. And I remember the first they said they were gonna take it like in between my thighs or something like that. And I remember the first thing I woke up from anesthesia was like, did you take the fat from then? Thoughts? And she goes, no, we didn't need it, and I was like shucks, I know, I know, and it part of me, like one of my girlfriends was doing the mommy like makeover with some light bo and honestly, for a few minutes debated it because I was like, I've always like had even as a kid, I've always had like a little like tummy pat poch and I have no matter like what I do, drink run like, it's kind of always there. And I was like, man, that'd be kind of nice. But he did tell me that it hurts really bad, and I was like, I don't want to be in pain everywhere, so um, and I ended up just being like, you know what, I like my little mommy pooch. I'm cool with it. But I didn't you know, I don't knock anyone that does the mommy makeover because I have a friend that did it and she looks banging. So I'm kind of like, oh, shoot, there's always time if we end up later on. What was the recovery like with kids? So I was worried about that because they say for six weeks he can't lived anything more than ten pounds, and my son Jay's is too and so you still requires, you know, to lift he's still in a crib, so lift in and out of a crib. At the time, my my ax um. He cut the crib where we can open it like a so he just like kind of walk in there. So that was the only part that was kind of a bummer, because there was times when Jason was like up up and I was like, no, mommy, boo boo's remember, like Mommy can't pick you up. But it went by really fast, and I'm gonna be honest with you. The first three days I called my doctor and I was like, this tight feeling on my chest, this heaviness. I don't like, like is that going to go away? Because I don't. I don't. I don't like it, like it's causing the anxiety because I I do suffer with anxiety. So that feeling like I couldn't breathe or it was super tight. I didn't like that. I felt like I had like dumbbells on my chest. But then I took the I took the medicine. I think it was percocepts. I took those for two days and then I moved to Addville, and honestly, the pain was really minimal. The only thing that bothered me was just the tightness in the chest, and I think that lasted for six days. So I just was like high on value for like a week and it was great. So well that for me. The hardest part was, you know, my kids were younger too, but it was trying to sleep a stomach sleeper and generate and I would wake up in the middle of the night laying on my stomach and like pain. I'm like why did my body let me roll over onto this pain? Like why did I do this? And I also was scared to take the medication for more than like two days because you know how like highly addictive it can be. So I was like onto advil, but I would wake up in the middle of the night, like why why am I in this position? Like I had to get that punch to my back and that was that was a really that was probably the hardest for me because the same like I'm a stomach sleeper, I starfish like on my stomach and to sleep on my back was just so uncomfortable. But yeah, once I hit like the four or five weeks, I was kind of able to go like a little bit on my side. And now I'm back to stomach sleeping and I'm ten weeks post surgery, so um, and I feel good, like honestly, it's it's and I didn't think it was bad at all. And but I mean I've had C sections and a few other stomach surgeries like with my appendix and BLAE ladders, so I feel like it's not that painful in my experience. Yeah, well they look amazing and in closing, because I know you gotta go. Um, do you have any regrets? Are you thrilled you did it? I have zero, zero, zero zero regrets. I'm happy with the size again, like I trusted my surgeon I have Honestly, my only regret is I didn't do it sooner. Yeah, that's only right. It happens. 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Sorry, I'm just throwing them at you because we're short on time and I need all of your infa perfect guy. We're gonna start with botox fillers. These are all from like listeners of Teapot that they submitted. So how old should I slash can I start? I mean it honestly just depends on what's going on with your face. I have done botox on people as young as their mid teens, and so if you have what's called a writed at rest or a wrinkle at rest that's there even when you're not using your muscle, there is nothing about starting botox early. I'm not a big fan of extensive botox if there's nothing going on in your face, like, don't don't waste your money. But if you've got an actual problem, go for its. Sister. And people always say, oh, if you get bow talks earlier, it's preventative later. Is that true? It can absolutely be true if you're someone who's very active, like I'm so active in my forehead. I just that's how I emote when I talk. So starting botox in your mid late twenties is a great idea if you're someone where you can see it where it's gonna go a long term. If you're not super active in an area, do not waste your money. If you're a big smiler and around your eyes you can already see those rinkles forming in your mid late twenties, go for it. You could potentially prevent something that was permanent. Speaking of prevention, does getting botox help people with T MJ and migrains? Like? Do you believe in that? Absolutely? And it's well documented to work in both things. The key is that seeing a skilled practitioner that places it properly. If your your neighborhood met spat and they're not really doing the right ofvaluation and placement, you're you're you're just wasting your money. Go to someone who knows what they're doing. So would you recommend always to go to an actual doctor to get botox? You necessarily need to. I think you just need to be understand what you're doing. When you go to a mets fall without good supervision, people are going to sell you what they have and not necessarily what you need or what you should have. And so if you're going someplace that just has a hammer. Everything looks like a nail to them. And does botox actually help with hooded islands? You know it can't a little bit, but not a lot. You can get some mild elevation of the eyebrow when it's placed properly. You can get some major elevation of the eyebrow when it's placed poorly. So I would argue that if you have a hooded island, you have a droopy island. Solve the problem by having the surgery. Don't do weird things to your eyebrows. You're gonna regret, That's true. I've seen that, um And would you say that there's a big difference between disport and botox? They're pretty equivalent in my mind, But you're gonna find people that like one or the other more. I like disport more. I'm a disport girl. Don't kill me allergy, and I love you guys too, But it's just for whatever reason, I like the way it feels and looks on me more. I say, use whatever you can afford. They're all pretty equivalent. And what would you say, what would you say similar in regards to pain as botox, Because people are like, does botox hurt, does fill a hurt. I personally think filler hurts a lot more than botox. Totally, A great filler is a hundred times worse. In my mind, Botox is kind of like I think it's the equivalent of plucking an eyebrow hair. Each poke feels about that level of pain to me. Right, And then what would you say if somebody had a choice to either get like laser resurfacing or some different type of laser, or like start doing botox and filler or do you think they're too totally separate things? Totally separate things. So laser resurfacing it's going to improve your overall skin quality and texture, Botox minimize wrinkles that come from moving muscles, and filler is going to add back volume. Again, make sure you know whoever you're going to see knows how to do all of these things, because they're always going to do the same thing if that's the only thing they have to sell, and it doesn't solve the right problem. So how do you think that people can actually be sure that they're going to a good place and that that person is reputable and is able to do a good job for them. Well, I mean, I think in general, I think the absolute best botox filler laser management is done by plastic surgeons and dermatologists because we know it all and we have access to it all. I think if you go someplace that has a plastic surgeon or a dermatologist that work there and not only just a medical director, but physically present several times during the week, you have that backup and you have that knowledge to make really good decisions so you don't waste your money. I mean, your money is valuable. Put it where it's gonna actually fix what you wanted to fix. And I know that filler can be dissolved. Can botox be dissolved? So unfortunately no, So if botox is placed poorly, you're stuck with it for a couple of weeks to a couple of months, depending on what the complication is. Um that's what people love and hate about botox. And you know, if you love it, it's also gone in a few weeks to a month. Right, It just depends on how your body metabolism metabolizing it. Right. And then how come this question was a lot, But how come some people that get filler start to look kind of all Look the same, almost like cat ladies, like, what what's happening there? And how do you avoid that occurring to you? That happens from poorly placed filler. End of story. People that look like that have too much place in the wrong places. So often what happens is people see their faces coming down and they're told, if you put lots of it up here, your face moves up. And that's certainly the case, but you don't look human. You start looking like a very pretty alien and it's a bad look. And once you start getting botox, is it a must to continue or could you get it and be like, oh, I like it? Or does it do you a disservice to not get it that next time? Are you going to start developing those wrinkles again and make bigger lines or what are your thoughts on that? I mean, it really depends on what you're treating. If you have some wrinkles you don't like and you want to soften them, you have to do it consistently because every time it wears off, that muscle pulls on that skin informs the wrinkle again, and it's not going to get softer with time. If you do it consistently, the wrinkle get softer and softer and softer, and sometimes even completely goes away if you do it consistently for a year or two. If you're doing preventative botox and you don't really have a defined rinkle, you're not really doing anything bad by skipping, you know, every couple months and then coming back once or twice a year. Right, all right, we're moving on to boobs. We're moving on to boobs best augmentation. And this I actually need to know. Even though somebody in your office, Dr Lisa Casala, who I love, did my boobs I don't think I paid attention to when she told me. Is it true that you need to have your boobs touched up or redone every ten years? It's absolutely true. Once you have a silicone breast implant, they are a you know, device that has to be changed. They're not meant to be there for life. The reason why is because they're soft and they have wrinkles in them, even if you can't see them through the skin, and that wrinkle rubs, rubs, rubs for years, and it creates a weak point that ruptures one. Silicone implants ruptures. They're they're just very problematic and cause all kinds of complications, and so we need to get in there switch them out before they have the chance to cause problems. So, once you have an implant, it's like any type of health maintenance. It's like a colonoscopy. Every ten of fifteen years, you're gonna come in have a small procedure, Suck it up and do it. It's the right thing to do to stay stay healthy and safe and preserve your beautiful breast long term. And as this procedure the same type of recovery is the first time you get your boobs done. Or is it easier or is it more simple. It's much easier for most patients because you've already had the pocket created. So if your breast look great going into that procedure, it's gonna be a really no big deal thing. You'll be back to normal much quicker than the original surgery. If you've had problems, though, it might be just as longer longer, But most women, it's just a simple in and out switch the implant to a newer version, and every couple of years we get a newer, stronger, sturdier version. Hopefully we'll get more than ten to fifteen years out of easing plants in the future. Oh, that's great. And then for people that you know went went bigger, were like, you know, I feel like the style was bigger, you know, a little while ago, and now they want to have smaller boobs, but they still want the same Do they then need a lift or how does that happen? Will your boobs just adjust to having a smaller size, you know, it's it can be either one. It really depends on your personal skin. And then also how droopy your breasts are at a baseline. So many women can downsize with no lift and the skin and tissue will shrink up over six months or so and it will look beautiful and they don't require the extra scars. Some women they just their skin is to loose. Their skin quality is not great because the sunbathing or smoking, and they really need to have a lift to tighten the skin around that smaller implant. I will tell you nobody wants to have a lift when they come into my office. But I've never had a patient come back and say, man, I wish I didn't do that lift. I think the trade is so so good. It's like it gives you that beautiful, perky shape that you've been missing. And what if in five years from now, I said, you know what, I want my implants out, but I still want, you know, to feel confident with my boobs and blah blah blah. If I took the implant out and I got a lift, would I have a similar type of result? Yeah? So, I mean an implant and breast never looks like a natural breast. It just tends to look more round and has volume higher where a natural breast not. I personally think natural breasts are beautiful. I think women look amazing when their implants come out. You often need to do a little bit of work, though you can't just pull it out. The muscle needs to be repaired or it starts doing weird things. You need sometimes fat grafting to repair some of the sitting and stretching that the implant cause. And then plus or minus a lift, depending on how large your implants are and your tissue quality. Um, I think women look great with their implants out. I know many women are told you're gonna look terrible, you have to have them forever. That is just not the case. That's good, that well, that's exciting. And then what is the average cost of getting your like breast augmentation and a left So it's really going to depend on where you live because it's very regionally dependent. But I would say probably an average would be anywhere from fifteen to thirty thousand dollars for those two procedures from a board certified plastic surgeon. And remember you want a board certified plastic surgeon who is board certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery. Okay, guys, to make sure you check that part. How common is breast implant illness and what are your thoughts on that? So the trick is, we really don't know. There's never been great studies on it. You know. All we have is the studies that look at kind of general happiness with your implants, and in general, a vast majority of women upwards of nine for both cosmetic and reconstructive patients like their implants at ten years. Breast implant illness is a real thing. There's some women that just don't play well with implants, and we're not exactly sure who those women are. There's some active studies going on right now. There's one that will hopefully come out near the end of the summer where some of my brilliant colleagues have looked at the proper treatment of breast implant illness and what surgeries when you remove the implant are the right way to go. UM. There are very vocal, active crowd online and so I know a lot of the information is scary to patients. I always try to remind people that they're a wonderful support group, but they only see themselves. They only see other women that have problems, and so they start to believe that everybody with implants has problems, and that's just not not reality. UM. Implants can certainly cause issues, but most women are happy. I have rest in plants. I love them. UM. I continue to be happy with them, and I have them for twenty years now. So I think you just have to have these discussions with your doctor. But the reality is it's a real thing, and it's a real complication of potential risk, and your doctors should talk to you about it if you're having an implant place And how do you know if somebody comes in and like, maybe plastic surgery isn't the best thing for them mentally or physically, whatever it may be, Like, what are some of the signs you look for? I mean, I remember when I first came into your offices and Dr Casella looked at me, and I was looking to get my boobs done. And this is before you know, I kind of went all in and changed my life and all of these things. And then I was telling her I also wanted to get a tummy tuck. And I remember this like it was yesterday, because she looked at me and she's like, I will one million percent to your boobs. I'm not doing a tummy tuk up on you. This is something you can do on your own. You know, you don't need it, like, and I just appreciate appreciated her honesty, and it also made me go wow, like, uh, you know somebody that didn't want to take my money. That's huge, like and it like made it made me feel empowered that I could make some changes and get myself to a place starts feeling better. And then she goes, Listen, if you make these changes and you come back in six months and you still want a tummy talk, we'll talk about it. But how often will surgeons really give it to you like that? I mean, unfortunately, in my experience, not as often as they should. You know, I I think the best person in your corner is a surgeon that's going to be honest with you, and I think that's true of anything in life. Everybody should surround themselves by friends and family that tell you the truth. Unfortunately, with plastic surgery, if you have a credit card and wave and around, someone's gonna take it. So you just have to be very careful who you choose. The things that I find the boring signs or when women don't know what they want, they're just unhappy and want something done and they come in and they're like, tell me what I need. Uh, nobody needs anything, and so I don't that's a patient where I just say, hey, I think you need to kind of re evaluate why you came into my office. UM. I also don't love when patients come in and they're doing it for someone. They're saying, my husband thinks I need bigger boots, my husband makes fun of this, my boyfriend, my wife, my girlfriend, and they never talk about what bothers them. They're bothered by another person being bothered, and I think that's a warning sign. UM. I also think the people that are trying to take a nine to attend on the scale of perfection. I think that, Um, I really hate that people don't appreciate and love the bodies that they're in. And I think that's why I love all In And I followed you for a long time. I've known you for a long too, but I love I think the focus really should be on fixing things that aren't fixable with a healthy lifestyle. And you know, the skin that stretches out for um, having babies, that's that's not fixable with diet and exercise. You know, if you have it a normal area of lcodistrophet like saddle bags, you are healthy weight and you do everything right, but you have a funny area of fact. Those are wonderful things to fix with plastic surgery, and I'm supportive of that, but I really think we need to start focusing on loving our bodies and what our bodies do for us, and stop finding fault with every inch of a woman's body and and trying to chase this impossible perfection that just doesn't really exist in real life. I mean, you know, you've been around celebrities more than me. They don't look like what they look like. Yeah, I mean, it's a real right, It's a filtered version, and it's something that people say to me often is I can't believe you know, like you know, you lost all this way, you lost you know, pounds, Like what's happening with all the loose skin? And I don't see any And I'm like, listen, one, there's a different angles that show different situations. I have lou skin if I I wear a lot of highways to shorts and like our high waisted workout pants, and when I pull it down, there is a loose skin at the bottom. But that's one of those things that like I am, I embrace it. I'm like, listen, this is who I am. I carried you know, three babies in this belly, I you know, fluctuated. Wait my entire life. I'm happy that I got to a place where I am consistently taking care of myself where I didn't feel that way when it came to my boobs, Like I was like, oh my god, you know, like I just wanted that change. But a lot of people do ask I want to be able to get rid of the loose skin. So how do they do that? Yeah? I mean, you know, loose skin. It it really depends on the degree of laxity. If it's a little bit loose, there's wonderful skin tightening machines that can tighten your skin up to about They do need to be done every eighteen months to two years because you lose the effect. And then if you have more than twenty tightening and you need then you really need to have some kind of tightening procedure like a tummy tup or a sign lift or an arm lift. But some of these surgeries have big, obvious scars that are pathnemonic for the surgery you had done. And so unless you've had a lot of laxity, I encourage people to just embrace their beautiful bodies and not get a scar where everyone scares at you and says, hey, I know what surgery you had done. Um. I don't think those surgeries are the right move for someone who doesn't have a huge amount of skin. And remember every tightening procedure as a trade. You're trading that loose skin for a big scar, and so you have to decide is that trade worth it? Are you trading up? Are you gonna be trading down? And a lot of women I see are trading down. They look amazing. They just have a little bit of laxing. There's no reason to do that to their body. Um, it's funny what you just said. I know you're a fellow peloton or I'm slightly obsessed with it myself. Christ Christian McGhee, who I'm obsessed with. Um, she's adorable, as are her voice. She had a post about this last week with her strong yoga body and she showed her loose stomach from having her beautiful boys, and I loved it. Made me feel so good because I'm like, even this strong, badass woman has the looseness and it's okay and she's not running to have something done to it. She's okay with it, and I love that. Yeah, I think you know, and to each his own, and you figure out, you know what it is that you want to You know that you want to change what you can work on and what you can live with. And for me personally, I can live with the fact going you know what, Listen, I'm taking care of me. I'm I'm doing the right steps. And if you know, further down the line, something changes and I want to try something or try laser try, I'm gonna try it, and I'm gonna be open and vulnerable with it because I think it is you know, I think that some people keep what they've done to themselves like really close to the cuff, you know, and and it's their you know, their option if they want to share. But I think when it when it does come to things, I wouldn't ever want to be like, oh no, I never got my boobs done. They're just of course they look like this after breastfeeding. It whatever it may be. So I think, you know, it is it is great that people are starting to open up more and talk about it. And then in closing, what is the biggest red flag? You can tell people that are going into a surgeon's office that like, this surgeon isn't for you. You're about to make a mistake with this person. So I think there's two or three things that I tell all my patients. The first most important thing I'm as you know, I'm I'm primarily a revision surgeon. I'm a fixer of people that are feel like they didn't get what they wanted the first time around. The most common thing that leads to this is not having a good communication with the surgeon. If you feel like you're being talked to and not listened to, that is a big red flag. And I think the other thing is uh not showing you before and actors that are taken long term that are six months or more out. And then the last is the hard sell. I think if someone pushes you hard, tries to convince you not to see other consults, tries to make you pick a date on the day of your consultation, that is a warning sign. You should be able to take this information jail, think about it, you know, ask questions in the future. You should never feel pressured into any surgical procedure. Wow, such good advice. Thank you so much. Where do people find you so they can, you know, ask you more questions or come see you because honestly, everybody in their office is so incredible. They're so warm, they're so kind, and they're gonna be honest and truthful with you, which for me is such a game changer. I don't want to feel like I'm being had and so I'm just trying to get my money. I want to know that, like I can trust the people that I'm talking to. So how do they find you? Well? Thank you? I love I love that you had a good experience with us. So I am at an office called Castlic plastic surgery. There's four plastic surgeons here and you can find me on Instagram at kale Kaleen. And I'm very responsive to d M so if you have questions or want me to help you set you in the right direction for finding someone locally to you as well, I'm happy to help. You're the best. Thank you so much and have a great day. Thanks Teddy, nice seeing you. Bye, guys. Thanks for listening today to Teddy t Pod. I loved hearing the good, the bad, the ugly of plastic surgery, Botox spill out of the works. I also love sharing my personal stories with you and had so much fun with our guests. And I have to say a special thank you to Zuru. Summer just got crazy with color. Crazy Bunch of Balloons by Zoo are here to help unleashed summer fun. My kids are obsessed, especially in the seat right now. It's super easy. By simply attaching the stem to a hose, you can fill and tie one water balloons in sixty seconds and you know when you're busy, mom. Timing is everything. 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