Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Meloncamps and camera Judge. Hi, guys, welcome to this week's Too Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Melancamps and tail and judge. How are you, Teddy? I am doing pretty well. I feel like what we're starting today off with is is pretty heavy, and I feel like I just kind of want to get through it. And then we'll talk about our weekends and we'll talk about like all of our Instagram questions. After we we do the headlines and then we go through the recaps. So you feel good about that, Tom, I mean, we're going into some heavy stuff and we're going into yeah for sure, and we are going What we've decided is that we are going to go on facts only in regards to everything that's been going on with the Real Housewife said Beverly Hills. We are solely reading off things that have happened. None are our opinions. It is going to be a chain of events that have occurred either in the press or on social media right which are horrible, which it's just okay. So if you're a fan of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, you may be aware that things have been transpiring on the show. There's also like some nasty drama on social media, and I mean it's convoluted, it's confusing. You could go it's yeah, I mean you could go down every possible rabbit hole. Um. So we're gonna go through the timeline of the TV show and also what's been happening on social media and report what's been going on. There was an episode of Beverly Hills that featured Garcela's birthday party and her family was there. Erica yelled out at one of her sons, Jack, saying get the f out of here at that time. After the show aired, Kyle received criticism for laughing at Erica's response. On July five, Kyle posted, I had not seen what Erica said to Jack's in person, but was told about it the following day, along with some funny moments as well. When I said, it's not funny, but it's funny, I met Erica being drunk was funny, but what was said to Jack's was not. Allegedly, at this time, Porsche received hate and her account went private. As Beach continued airing, things have continued to transpire on social media. We're going to read some of the following statements. So Garcel post, I'm usually a very strong woman. I've been raised to be strong. My life has taught me to be strong. But when it comes to my kids, it hurts. It's not okay. I've been in tears all night. It's just a TV show. People scream at your TV, throw something at your TV, but leave our kids alone. Hashtag r H O b H. And then there's also a post that Garcel does, but it's written from Jack's Garcel's fourteen year old son. Well, I'd like to start off by saying that I'm still a kid and wish to not be viewed as a fully matured adult because I am not one. It is currently my first week of high school, and instead of enjoying it like most kids at my school, I have to deal with being attacked on social media. I did not sign up for the show, nor do I have anything to do with the show's drama. I just want to be a normal kid. The purpose of my Instagram account is not for publicity nor the public's gaze, but to be seen by my peers is just another kid. I really wanted to avoid going private, but I just have to at this point. The constant support from everyone makes it much more tolerable. However, middle aged women spamming me with racist and crude comments about my family is not what I expected for my first week of high school. Thank you for all the positive comments. It truly means a lot to me. It's just so heartbreaking. And then Bravo posts on their Instagram, we are shocked and appalled at the social comments directed at garselves. Sign we use our viewers and social followers alike to refrain from targeting our casts and their families with harmful rhetoric. To our knowledge. A majority of the Beverly Hills reposted Bravo's statement, including Lisa Renna, who also said, we are doing a TV show. We try to entertain you. Why can't you treat it like wrestling? For God's sake, Love us, love to hate us, but leave the kids alone. What I was sent about Garcela's son is disgusting and unacceptable, and what I heard happened to Portia is disgusting and unacceptable. And what you've said and done to my own kids is disgusting. The threats to the pretty mess son and I'm sure all the beautiful children they didn't sign up for this. What are you doing? The kids are All of our kids should be off limits. Enough is enough. Renna posted this actually before the Bravo release went out, and then she additionally posted what Bravo sent During this time, it was also suggested that some of these comments appearing on Beverly Hill's Housewife social media pertaining to this may be caused by bots. At this time, Diana has posted a few statements. Okay, so Diana posted this, please read article I wrote in Lincoln Bio. It might give you more insight into who I am as a person and as a mother. I'm appalled at recent comments aimed at the child of one of my fellow Beverly Hills cast members. No one should be treated this way, especially children. Sadly, this was not the first time Beverly Hills children have been attacked. This has to stop. Leave our kids alone. And then we get to another post, which is I from Diana. I have been accused of instigating the hateful and inexcusable cyber bulling of Garcela's son. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have stood for human rights my whole life. There's no place for hate in this world. To those people who have been attacking my family and threatening our lives, you are also spreading hate and creating fear. Please stop. As of last week, many of Lisa Renna's post pertaining to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills have been archived on her feet. As of the taping of this podcast, Lisa Renna has further issued statements that she's put on Instagram or d m um yeah, and then she posted her actual d m s. I don't know who cec loves you? So cc a blogger or something you're talking to? Yeah, so Cecie loves you. I guess This is Lisa Renna's messages to her and she says, I archived it. That's all. I've been keeping my social media page very edited, if you will notice, I'm keeping it very positive and non negative and fashion and fun. I don't want anything negative on my grid, and since my own children are being threatened as we speak, I felt it best to archive it. The statement did nothing, so why keep it up. Our children are getting dealt threats, all of our children. It's gone beyond and I need to keep my family safe. Now. I will no longer be saying or posting anything about the show. Um, then you can read the next one. Okay, I allow to say about that. It also, I never had Beverly Hills anywhere on real house with Beverly Hills anywhere on my Instagram and my profile. And I have recently edit my Instagram page for Fashion, Fun and Family. I took away eight thousand photos. I did that about three weeks ago. If you go and look, there's still a housewive stuff on there, from the reunion, from the wine scene and Provence dancing and Provence the end. Yeah, that was a weird statement. Well, I think it's because people have been posting that she took down r H O b H from her Instagram, Like like I said it in her bio and you ever did you ever see it in her body? She never had it in her body. Okay, alright, it was never something but she did. But but there is a lot of postcone she cleaned her post up and I don't know, I don't know if that's intentional or Bravo told her to do that. No, I well, she's saying it's intentional. She did that on purpose. And this includes removing the Bravo statement, Okay, and then on her instant story said, there's the picture of her on a red carpet, presumably, and it's I was Lisa effing Renna before Housewives, and I'll be Lisa effing Renna after. But why would she put that to have any ideas? I don't know. I mean, I think this is all so messy. And my takeaway from this is there's what happens on the show, and then simultaneously there's also things that are happening on social media. Some connect to the show and some don't. But this is the first time that Bravo has ever in my knowledge, issued a statement to address things that have happened on social media as I should. Yes, And it's puzzling why this type seems specific to Beverly Hills, why their social media gets so nasty, because that doesn't really happen to you guys right right now, Beverly Hills social media, it's so overpowering to me. I'm to the point where I'm just custed. I don't know what to believe. It's horrible and it needs to stop, because I think that's there's a lot of people that watch the show that don't go on social media that really just watched the show to watch the show, and I think the ratings are clearly showing that people are into the show. I'm just saying, as a cast member, it needs to start there. Stop spewing hate on social media. In the story, I think, you know, we will continue to follow this. And the biggest thing, regardless of who you're fans of on the show and who you're not and what drama you're invested in, nobody wants to see children being attacked on social media. When my heart goes out to Jackson Garcel, this is no and and you know, allegedly they could be bots or the real people or you know, I think it's just gotten. It needsgusting. It's disgusting, and at the end of the day, it's if it's you know, fans doing it or people buying bots or however that works, it needs to stop. And also, I mean, most people watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills for lifestyle and for drama, so not this kind of drama, right, That's what I'm saying. That's why they need to keep it separate. Social media is separate, and it's disgusting on so many levels. Um, yeah, it really is. And well, I think that's kind of all we can say about that. We've provided all the up to date facts that we have as of Monday, and they I mean, I'm sure by the time we're done recording this podcast, more things will be more, more things will come out. Um And I think that also. I hope that if if people are listening, no matter why I this hate has gotten to this point. No no one needs to see it. It's not beneficial to anyone. Like, if you're watching the show, watch the show, enjoy the enjoy the show or pick your favorites or whatever it is. Enjoy the show for what it is. Don't go after children like you don't need to go after anybody. You don't need to go after anyone. You can. And if you love somebody, go on over to their page and tell them how much, how much of how funny you think they are, or like that, or keep it light to the point of like that hair girl, you know whatever it is. But this children alone. I mean, but let me ask you a question, was the last time you watched a show, a reality show, and then got on to that person's Instagram and just talk shit about them? Never exactly so it may also makes you wonder about who's doing this, But I also don't want to be hypocritical. We are on a podcast where we talk about all housewives, and so I I at that point isn't lost on us. So you guys know, the point we're trying to make is you never need to get to the point where you are wishing death. No, and we don't even wish hate on any housewife as we talk on this podcast, we are, but you can't even compare the two. Like we're talking about what we saw. What is going on right now is disgusting, hateful, criminal, Like it's horrible. I think it's appalling what's happening. And you know, I cannot imagine being Jackson this moment. Right this kid is going to high school, he's fourteen. He's instead of enjoying his high school years, he's getting hate on social media, death threats, things like that. It's disgusting. Okay, now that we've talked about that, can we take a little break and then we'll come back. We'll talk some additional housewife headlines Atlanta and Dubai. So we are back and we are still in the world of real housewives social media, but now we have moved on to jin Shaw, and she did an Instagram story that said, let's play who did that? Hashtag r h O s LC edition Oh boy? One. I donated to Ted Cruise for President campaign four times two. There are different types of black people. For example, black people from Compton are different from black people from Salt Lake City. No, my husband is from Compton. Three said, O MG, you look like Molanna from the Disney movie. Your people have the coolest hair. Can I touch it? Four told me I should not talk about mental health on the show or say I use medic cation for my depression because it will be used against me. Five called my son the N word. Six said not to be racist or anything, but I like the big black one the best. Then jeez, it's just what is she doing? Well? So jin Shaw reposted not Lisa Barlow blocking jin fans and also blocking some of Jin's fans stories. Hmm, what's with that, Lisa? She's blocked blocked from her story some of my friends who haven't even sending thing negative about Jim but they support Jen. I can understand blocking me due to my post regarding the tweets she was liking. Could she just be blocking from stories anyone? Who supports Jin. I know of two accounts who have who haven't been negative towards her. And then this is a repost from Jin from one of from Jin's click and it says it's serving Ted Cruz for president and the Friends without snow Flakes doing the most for free. Bitch, you don't get paid. And then a gatorade, which I'm assuming means dehydration. Dehydration Jesus. Really, I don't even know. I don't even have to say about all this. Honestly, I don't even think we discuss this any further than this is what's been posted on jen Shaw's Instagram that we have to report. But nothing's there on the show. We have no idea what's coming. And I mean, I don't feel like gen Shaw is very credible at this point. I mean, we're just gonna have to wait and see, I guess. But either way, it's just promoting more and more hate and and and and lighter news. Shall we shall we talk about your gal VICKI we shall can you because I've got a little book stuff. What's what's happening? Yeah? Well, evidently Vicky went on to a podcast recently and said why did she not get asked back and I dine and it must be because I'll show my tits. And you know, actually how the pig Toddle did a good breakdown about it, Like I could just see the executive sitting back going, hm hmmm, should we offer Tamar the spot or Vicky? Well, the fifty four year old Tamar will show her tits and that's going to make this show so much better. Like that, what kind of tone did she have when she said it? Was she like trying to be funny. No, not funny, she was just being a matter of fact, like, oh, Tamara will show her tits and I won't. So that's why she probably got hired night dinnant And I'm like, I heard it. I haven't even talked her about it. Um, But I mean, I'm sorry to say, like when I think of who tunes in to watch the Real Housewives of Orange County, I'm not like, you know what, I bet it's a bunch of men that want to see Yeah, I mean it was just such a weird thing to say. Well have you as you still haven't spoken to her at all? Um, No, we've text you know things like this. When she says stuff like this, I really just ignore it because there's no like, what am I going to say, Like why would you say that? Like you know what she's going to say things like that, and quite honestly, I'm not going to react to him. Yeah, not good. I mean, I mean it was just a really like I couldn't imagine if she got hired back and I didn't, and I'd be like, so why did she get hired back? Yeah? It makes absolutely no sense. What what is? And of all the reasons to speculate, why that one? I know, because it's not even a good one. It's not a good one. It's not it's kind of a bullshit one. And I mean, it'llow keep pissed me off, but it's not worth a fight. It's really not worth a fight. It'llow keep pissed me off. It did, but it's not with a fight, you know what I mean. It's like, I'm not gonna call her up and be like, really, that's what you had to say? You know, she said it. It's over with. You can't take it back, Okay, not taken? Yeah, you gotta pick your battles with these. Well, speaking of battles, do you want to start with Atlanta? Or Dubai. Well it's dub Dubs baby their season finale, so just let's just get into it, Okay, yeah, oh, I mean it starts out with the funeral. I mean the fact that miss goat died and went to heaven and that kind of made me sad. But then the the whole funeral for a goat was like but but also, and I'm trying to it's not funny, but like she's like maybe she was a sick goat or it was the fertilizer. Maybe she's getting the fertilizer yeah, or or then uh, and so then ions like she was a fancy goat, she got this, this and this. I'm like, maybe it's that you can't just feed animals whatever it will make them sick. But then then the goats life like that, It's like even though the goat lived a short life, and it's honestly like a lesson the area less than I'm like, poor ms goat was not meant for the lavish Dubai lifestyle. Well, I don't think if I put a goat in my backyard that it's probably gonna last that long. Like they need I don't know, I feel like they need their freedom. They need to bend um before we get into more of this finale. I forgot to give you an update one. I loved Lisa when she came on UM, but I had asked her if the crown that she was wearing, I mean, if the crown that Brooks was wearing was her borrowed Mr Maker crown? And then Brooks went on Instagram commenting that she was never Mr Your makeup Like there was a wait a minute, So was she missed Ja Maker or not? So? I mean this is from the Worldwide Web. Milan Hall is a former MS Jamaica Universe contestant in two thousand nine and is a former member of the cast of B. E. T. S College Shill from two thousand eight through two thousand nine. The show followed the cast members daily lives at their historical colleges at the height of their popularity. She was also crowned first runner up at the Miss Hollywood Teen USA pageant and Queen Miss Jamaica Caribbean World in two thousand ten. She previously entered the Miss Caribbean World two thousand ten pageant. Listen, I don't know much about freaking pageantry. Let me be does that mean you haven't been in a pageant. I have never, in a shocking turn of events, nobody has had me, me my talent in a pageant. Um. But I guess she probably didn't win the one whatever one Brooks is talking about, because Brooks is like I checked to one Mr Jamaica. So she won some thing she wants some Listen. She won more crowns than I've ever won. This is also childish. But the end of the day, who wears a crown to the reunion? I mean for a middle seat? It's that's a rough gig. Well that's embarrassing. But Caroline, we we still want you on. We want to talk to you. We want to know your side of things. This is what we do on the twats. I get to the bottom of it. I do love that Andy was wearing the crown for a little bit. I thought that was cute. I did too. Okay, so now we're back to the show and we Caroline Stanbury is at an IVF clinic now that she is married, since it wasn't allowed when she was engaged in Dubai. She says, if they can't have if they can't have a baby, Sergio, we'll be comfortable with that, but she sees it happening for them. The doctor tells her they have five eggs and will ferntalize. Now is she going to do in vitro? Like is she gonna surrogate? I mean, I don't, I don't know, you don't know, Okay, I kind of see it going that way. I would not want to be forty five years old and caring. I mean, at thirty eight, I had Sophia and I, oh my gosh, it was so hard. I know, I think it especially because her last pregnancies that they showed that she's had. You know, I think it's going to be could she possibly could they possibly have a surrogate right now that's already pregnant. They're not talking. I don't know what the rules are in Dubai. Oh well, look at Andy he had doing a different state. Yea, So maybe they're doing it in the States, So I mean, we can We'll just have to stay tuned. But either way, once again, Sergio is so just goofy about all of the things, like you're just so sweet and supportive, and it's like and she's like You're like, she's about to go under, like your buggy me or whatever, like get off of it. Um, I think he's so sweet. And then, oh, I don't know, I realized them all over the place, but this just reminded me. Guess who I saw the other day at the monster Jam one of my Namastate bitches. I saw Namastate bitches. The the other girl, not Teresa, the other the podcaster girl. Melissa. Yeah, no, not Melissa. Is that her name? Her name Melissa Gorga? No, it's her name is Melissa. Okay, So I saw Melissa. She was really nice. She came up and I made a joke. I'm like, listen, I don't think I didn't see that. You guys posted like like like we were below you for your one second clip a couple of days after our show it aired, and she was like I doubt you know, Like we had a good left. She was really funny and nice and either way. But she said that she's talked to you before. Oh yeah, yeah, I put on her podcast before. She's super sweet and you Also, I met one of my besties I know, Jennifer Lyson. Yes, she I've known her for Oh my gosh, she's at my wedding, so I've probably known her fifteen years. She's a New Yorker that lives like literally two streets down for me and I can't even talk about it, but she she didn't give me some tea on and some of the things going on with Oh my god, him at her I know. Anyways, moving back back to Dubai, I think I'm really excited for Dubai's reunion because that looks like it was probably going to be better than this season. Because I'm even having a hard time getting through the rundown of the finale, which is not a good sign. I know, I know. Um. Then, Chanelle tells her sister about her hypnotherapy and how she talked about the way they were circumcised. She says the procedure brought her and her sister close. She says after she feels the women got into her head and took all the problems and threw them out. She feels free. I mean, I think it was so brave of her to share this. Oh my gosh, I know it kind of brought her back from being this over the top. I am, you know, fabulous too, But I fully agree with you, Tam. I think hearing this additional I think the fact that Ion was so vulnerable and shared, just showing that part of her life. I mean, no, the average person cannot relate to a female circumcision circumcision, I can even say it right. Um, but just the fact that she opened up almost the entire season, we've kind of seen her as, um this just a glamazon, like just lam Yeah, just just fabulous and all these things and outfits and talking with her sister was really heartbreaking and it shows like how much strength she has, and it really well, I think it kind of shows why she is who she is today, Like she just puts up this front because she's got so much pain inside which is released. But what it was good to see that the hypnotherapy and talking about it has made her feel more free. Um. Then Caroline is nervous to be on the Girl's trips since her hormones are through the roof and she is emotional. Um, she says she will try to zip it and coexist. Then that which we we Then we panjam Brooks, who can't even keep her eyes open from drinking. They joked that somehow she knows where everyone is, but she's like she's always her eyes int like this. Yeah, but she made one um thing where she was like sitting there and she's like, you know, before I film, I like to have a glass of wine or a bottle. That's brutal. That's when you get yourself in trouble. Yeah, well she could tell she wasn't fully yeah, you know. And then I had to love when Sarah asked everybody okay with each other? I honestly that question when on Housewives, you're just asking for it, like stop, you know pretty much they're like, come on, She's like, I gotta do something here, so let me try to do some stuff. But Lista think she's okay with everyone and feels they don't all have each other. Lisa thinks she's okay with everyone and feels they don't all have to be best friends. And I mean, I agree, we don't all have to be best friends, but it doesn't mean everything's great with everybody. No. I thought that it was very I mean, I get that it's the end of the season, so you kind of want to wrap everything up into a bow and then have it all explode again at the reunion. But for me, I was a little bit like at this union, it was that's like the when they say I'm having a party tonight. I don't want any drama. Yeah, it's the same thing. Um, but then I do always love at the end of every Housewives season where they write there a little like what they're up to now, and it's like Ion started to make a blind Lisa gets a goldfish instead of a new goat, Nina's holmes complete, Sarah's working on being a comedian comedian? What the hell? I was like, I'm trying to think of the time I've left at Sarah. That's what I went. Wait, what she's gonna be a comedian now? Um, Caroline's baby is on ice until surgery or takes a sex edge. Okay, can you explain that one to me? Yes, she's saying that the babies are on ice, like she's not gonna put like she's not gonna try to be pregnant. No, I get that part, it's the back end. I don't get. Sergia takes a sex said class. Why because he knows what happened, Like he doesn't even understand like where babies are made, Like you can't understand. I'm not buying that. It's a joke. Okay, alright, I didn't know. I didn't know we joked like that nor what they called eulogius. Eulogy, I mean as well be a eulogy. It is um. And then Brooks is preparing for her spat opening, which we find out she's got all of these different investors that she's been with at one point, husband, ex husband, boyfriends. Yeah, um, and and I just kind of thoughts, what what is your fan thoughts? What is your thoughts? I can not wait for potonac to start or something like. This was a rough one for me. I'm hoping the reunion is going to turn it around and that at this point the women have watched back and they're like, Okay, we don't need to try so hard for drama. We need to actually become friends so that then some of the drama drama is authentic. You do you suspect people are getting fired? I mean, I I don't know. I never want to say somebody's out of a job, But is there's gonna be a shake up? I I mean there's one person on the cast that I feel like, is it doesn't really stir the pot doesn't really have any drama, doesn't like okay, can you yet? But I'm not gonna say but I know, I agree. There are certain people, and that's all part of starting a brand new franchise, like who's gonna be good? Who's not gonna be good? Not everybody's gonna be good. So hopefully they check it up a little bit and we come back. I mean, I know one person that's never gonna get fired. You know, she's not getting fired. She's good TV. She is really good too, really good TV. All right, let's take a little rife. We'll come back and discuss Atlanta. Okay, so we are back for Real Housewives of Atlanta. Um, yeah, that was a good episode. It was a good episode. UM so happy that Marlo's nephews are back Marlo's well. Well, first off, Andy tweeted how good it was? Oh he did? Yes? I Well, I'm I'm now I'm second guessing myself now that you said that, but I'm sure I saw it. Okay, but I I He either tweeted that the reunion was so good or that this episode is so good, but either way he said something positive about how good it lan. Well, okay, speaking of the reunion, did you see their looks? Yes? I did? What did you think? I think they looked amazing? I mean, I think Kenya looks so beyond. They all look beautiful. I felt like all the dresses are very coordinated and almost looked like they were from the same designer, well slightly a different color. One of the dress seemed more pink than orange. So I'm like, I wonder um But also I wasn't the largest fan of Sanya's dress. The one with there was like like there was like I didn't hate it. Girl's got a body, I mean hard body. She could wear. She could honestly wear a sheet and look stunning. I just think about myself sitting and stuff, and I'm like, I don't know. I remember I wouldn't sit because I have extra skin on my stomach that would like fold over the cutouts. I mean, I remember the one year. You remember the year that um Dere wore all those uh like five thousand pins in her head and she also had on a dress that had like it was like a bunch of things that you could like see it was like painting her the entire time. I'm like, I can't know. One time, way back before the cutouts were a popular, I had to dress I had little cutouts on the side, and I looked back I'm like, what was I thinking when I leaned over the extra skin would come out? Like you have to be stick skinny for that stick skinny. You also just have to be able to sit in something that Like I just can't ever be aware of my own self for that long, so be comfortable. Um, A thousand percent. But I do think they all, I mean, I think they all was beautiful. I love a theme. Um. My favorite part of the entire episode was when they're trying to talk to True about drama and she's in so much pain she is sleeping. That reminded me when I broke my foot in Mexico. They gave me painkillers and they made I had to do a scene where we were all sitting down at at dinner or something, and I literally fell asleep at the table. I mean, and Cheri and Sonia are like doing the most, Like they are doing the most in the scene, like they are trying to bring it and like create more drama. She's like, and she's like, Oh, that absolutely sucks to no end to actually hurt yourself that bad during filming because it just you can't drive, you can't do things, you can't walk. It blows. But then Sonia says something and she's like she's kind of reliving the moment that she has with Kenya where they're where they're arguing and Jamaica, and she's like, you know, I thought that I had the words, but they just weren't coming out the way I wanted. And I was like, yeah, we know, girl always saw what what's the phrase Kenya eight in that scene? So um. But then they continue talking about you know, was Kenya coming for Sonya's husband? And then a little bit yeah, I mean she was. And then but you saw Sankia like perk up so quick in that scene when they start talking about it. She's like, I'm getting her on the phone right now. And then the I think the quote was bone collector behavior. Um. Yeah, And do you think he was coming for I mean, do you think that he was rude in his comments? I mean, you and I go back and I know this over and over again. I don't necessarily think he was over the top. But if you're there alone in a situation and your husband isn't sitting next to you, and another man talks to you that way, it's not ideal. However, I can I don't know somebody else's feelings. Maybe you need to find a man and figure out why you can't get one. Oh, for the love, are you coming for Kenya? No? I would never go. Are you coming for kicking? Would be taco. But if she had a man that was sticking up for her, she'd be fine with it. This is that, honestly talking about a housewife. Super fight you and Kenya? Damn, that would be wordwords that'd be yeah, we take that to the rest that I will be the what's the person that wears the black and white? The referee would be yeah, those big words like referee, get refree, Yeah, I get lost in your head? Um okay, okay, No, I'm not saying anything bad about Kenya, but I'm thinking. It's just thinking if the role was reversed and somebody was coming after her and her husband. I mean, I don't feel like he was agressive. He said we had to say he walked away. Yeah, sorry, I mean, but the fact that we're still talking about it shows that we're going to continue talking, I know. And then saw Nya says herself. Sonya says, Kenya wishes she had a man who would stand up for her like Ross and thinks Kenya has never experienced that love before she calls Kenya to confront her for calling Ross is aggressive. For calling Ross aggressive, and Sonia says this is strike three for her. Um, well, also, can you like doesn't even really have this conversation, Like when she calls her, She's like, hold on, let me wake up or let me and then call you back back. It's like Kenny is like, you know what, Sorry, I'm not filming right now and I'm not involved in any of this. Well. Um, and then uh, it's two weeks before Say's fashion show and she invites Kenya to look at the potential models. Oh my god, that was horrible scene. What would you have done? Well? Right? I mean, can you write off? The bat says she's concerned and challenged because of Charay's coordinators. I mean she was so rude to that girl. Kenya was so rude to that girl, so rude to that girl. If I was let's say it was me and you and I was doing that to your assistant or whatever her title is, would you be like f up? Well, I mean, for example, you just worked with somebody that I work with for parties. This doesn't give anything away. And the first thing that she said to me was thank you so much for referring Caamera. She was so awesome to work with. Yeah, she and she was amazing, amazing, Like I'm just blown away and I have the best party planner ever. Her name is Atiana. But that's that's the kind of feedback you want to have when you work with your friends. But could you imagine me sitting in front of Adriana going, well, you don't know what you're doing and you should do this and they should walk that way, and you you'd be like, shut up. I mean, we all here's the thing. We all have our moments in our own businesses where I think we're stressed and maybe not our best selves, like that when there's an event being planned. But the thing that makes this bizarres this wasn't Kenya's event. No. And by the way, who cares at the models five ft six? Why do all models have to be five? Yeah? I mean if we're talking about a little bit of model casting, we have to also talk about Apollo. How I text Pedra last night. She's like, what I'm watching the v M A s. Nikki is getting honored, My my girl Nikki, And I'm like, so you're not aware of your husband just dissed you. So we got she couldn't come on today because she's leaving for Miami. But I feel like we need to get her on the pod. But by the way, I do only need to clarify that statement that it's the ex husband. It's her ex husband, yes, right, I just wanted to make sure. I was like, hold up, did I do my research wrong? No? No, no X husband? Yeah, but and why did they give him an interview? Why did you get an interview? There's already so like now, and what's green on your hand? Oh? It's my son's Oh my gosh, Like my, what are you doing? What is that? It's one of those toys? Okay, now she's getting obscene. No, it's like one of those toys from the fair that like falls through your hand. But I'm seeing one of those in twenty years, I know, but I don't have my little feather pin that I like to fidget around with. Why we're doing this, Oh my gosh, I took his um. Okay, So the entire a Poulo thing with the modeling and him being wither, I was like, this is okay. So I am not a fan of him coming on the show after being incarcerated and then going after my dear friend friend Phaedra. I did not like that because she's a good mom, a good person. I don't believe she did any of those things. And I'm hoping we're gonna have around the pod real soon to address it. Yeah, I mean, I didn't particularly like that. I also was a little bit confused about the items being stuck in the last SSKA, like the fashions being lost in Alaska? Is there like a big fashion capital of Alaska. Maybe I just think it was coats, but like, what what what? What? What's made in Alaska? I didn't know that Alaska was so huge in athleisure where I didn't either, But um, yeah, so there's that. But then we also have to get to the it starts happening, um where you see that Charay is not wanting to pay for the party that Drew. Did you see their text messages? Hold on, no, not text messages. I think they are tweets, tweets, tweets. So we have to talk a little bit about this alleged Charay not paying for the Marlowe and Kenya party, which is a whole other topic. The fact that they would have a joint birthday like want to have a joint birthday surprise is completely beside the point. But Drew writes on Twitter the moment I realized I wasn't getting my money, then say response, girl, stop, you were paid one thousand to do a small good together and anything over that is on you. Then Drew responds, so you wanted a cheap party like your cheap joggers. Girl, Okay, that's a low blow. Then Charay writes, just like them cheap ass wigs you were wearing last season, ashtag respect the o G. Then Drew writes, nothing cheap about go naked hair. Then she wrotes, girl, you know that hair last season was not go naked? Dizzy ask can't remember them horrible wigs she had on? Then Drew wrote, how you know he wasn't even there? Then Say writes, girl, the world knows. When I came back, I didn't know who you were, but was told you had cheap ass wigs, bad makeup and or fake clothes. I'm glad you're able to rent a real designer piece. Now what you can rent designer pieces? Yes, read the runaway. Well they're not really like real designer pieces, aren't they like, I don't know, but all I do know is the fact that the editing when they are saying that she wouldn't pay for the party, and then I think it's maybe Kidney is confessional where she's like, um, but you have an eight thousand dollar sweater on yeah, and Go Naked, Well, I know that was funny, and Go Naked was founded by Porsche. So she's literally making fun of Porsche. Well, Drew's trying to say it is Porsche's hair, and no, one's really making fun of Porsche. Well in a backhanded way. Well no, no, because she said Drew saying it is Porsche's hair, and she is saying, no, it wasn't. Don't lie about cheap hair. Okay, Porsche, let us know whose hair wasn't Porsche? Was that your hair? Let it? We need to know if that was Go Naked hair not. I should just ask her. We've had her on the pod. Yeah, but yeah, So Drew told the girls that was a get well party, which I've also never been to a get well party. But well, on Housewife, there's party, there's funerals for goats, there's there's parties for everything. So it's a good well party, and say had the idea as it to be an actual doover party for Marlo and Kenya. I've never heard a horse idea, um Drew or a better TV moment, Yes, such a good TV moment. Drew and Shrey are co hosting the party together and Shara challenges Drew on the expenses and Drew that's when they bring up Anthony again. Anthony is right, say don't pay. And Anthony was that assistant guy. Remember from the beginning of it, did you pay attention to the details of the party. I remember seeing lots of balloons and like chefs in the kitchen. I would think that if that party wasn't partially partially gifted, like I've had events where non housewife events, you know, like where vendors donate because they want to be on my Instagram or on you know whatever. So vendors will say, if you tag me, you can have this item to side in the second. Most of the time, in my knowledge or my experience, if you're crafty as a housewife, you will have vendors contribute. Well. Not that being said, not all, not everybody does. That being said, it did look like about thousand dollar party. If you think about it, with all of those balloons, a press wall at the you know, it adds up really quick. It does, so I don't I'm not saying that. I don't think that that event was that amount. But what is unclear is who that one thousand dollars was from. Was that a party stipend from the show or was that a thousand dollars from Charay too? Oh, you mean, like the show gives you a budget, So that that was vague. That was a vague response. So we don't have to I'm sure it will come out. I'm pretty sure they had to pay for that themselves, the whole thing. I think. So well, we'll see, I think. Um. Then Kenya walked into Drew's house for the party and closed the door on Marlow's face. And then Kenya says she doesn't want to share a birthday party with someone she doesn't like and who has the side the brain the size of a gnat. Their girls are trying to mend their friendship, and Kenya says it feels like an intervention and not a birthday party. I mean, she's not wrong, she is not wrong. I'm not wrong. And then but so Kenya is pretty you know, and her confessionals and you know, and seeing she's pretty obvious about it. Marlowe genuinely seems thrilled that this party is happening. I think so too, so weird with Marlo because you can like really like her and then the next minute you're like, oh no, mmmm, but this particular time, didn't you think she was like she was like, it's okay that it's I'm just so happy they thought of me. Like she really does seem grateful. Yeah, And Kenya has been throwing a lot of shade lately, a lot. Then she tells the ladies that the fashion show will go on and praise that her designs will come. Kenya says she went to the model call and it was a disaster. And then Kenya tells her if it doesn't get this together now, she will fail again, and they don't want her to fail twice. Do you think that the model call was a failure or the failure part was Kenya like putting everything down. I don't like I barely even saw any models. I saw it. We saw a few and they're like five six five six, five six, and then one got down to one five four, and I'm like, hey, I'm five four, what's wrong with that? I don't mind the height or anything like that, but I think I was so I couldn't pay attention to the models because I was paying so much attention to what was going on around. But how about the how about the banter back and forth with um I don't know Shari's assistants name, the girl that's helping her, the coordinator coordinator, I don't remember her name, but the banter back and forth with her and and um Kenya and she's and she's like this confetti yeah, petty. Well. But my favorite part though, it was so good when Shai gives out the invitations, like and now at this point we're invested in the fact that, like, somebody has some of the products, not all of them. Some are stuck in Alaska, They're all over the place. But then the invites have little outfits and I think and the outfit was horrible, the outfit and the invite. Yes, it was like little Neon TI died weird. I'm like, is that what stuff gonna look like? Was it candy? That was like if Sara has an outfit and an invite but can't get her actual should make him for Barbie something like that. I was hilarious. I mean, I care what. I hope what you saw in the invites is not what she's actually making. Did you see those little I did. I thought it was a cute invite. I thought it was. But at least make like the clothes that you're making, like scaling down for the invite. I don't know it would make you want it to be a surprise, but at eighties neon. I mean, but those box invites are very expensive, speaking of like overpaid things that that type of invite when you can just as easily send a text or doing Obviously she's not good with money. Yeah, well, because you know, you got to pick and choose where you're gonna put things. And she said that she paid, she's spent a million dollars already, that and that line. Yeah, she said, I spent a million dollars. And then but then she kind of went back something on social media where she went back and said I didn't say that, and like, there's but she did. And in the scene she said a million dollars. And then we get back to we gotta get back to Apollo, because we also didn't really talk about Tyrone before because we got sidetracked. Sharay meets up with her friend, her friend Apollo a k now that he is back from prison, and she asked him to be the male model, and then he tells say that Phaedra left him to die since she wasn't there for him. Apollo also tells Sharay that he ran into Tyrone in the system and he told him that he was dating Sharay. But then he also kind of gives this account that a lot of guys in prison dave a lot of girls and a lot of girls coming in and out to visit them, and and yeah, but what's the point, I mean, what's the point of visiting somebody in prison if you don't if you're not married, you can't have a conjugal visit. I mean, I get if you're actually boyfriend girlfriend, but what are you getting out of it if you're just somebody's like you meet while they're in prison and then you go to visit them. Trow, do you meet somebody in prison? There's like, is there like a prison app guys in prison? Well on Law and Order? The guys in prison good in law and Order? Are we really Refereni TV show. Yes, because everything on everything on TV TV is true everything. Okay, keep that scripted. Okay, I'm taking your cable away from you. Guys in prison are able to have computer time, so I am sure not everybody. So they get on like a chat and try to hook up with girls, and what kind of girls fall for that ship? Sure? I mean is the dating pool that bad that you have to look for somebody in prison? Well? I think sometimes, you know, it's the thrill of the chase, tam. No, not for me, it isn't. I mean a hard pass for me. It would be a hard pass for me. It is? Well, um, what about how the quote of the episode was next week's fashion show with no fashions so shady. I loved it. I love a fashion show with no fashions. But anyways, continuing on, fan thoughts from this episode are array seems cheap. I can't believe she doesn't have any clothes samples. Well, I'm sure she does, but not Well, why are they showing us anything? Why haven't we seen any mock ups? Why haven't we seen I don't know, even guast week. I'm gonna reference another TV show on Project Runway Dear Lord, or at least that's a reality show. Right on Project Runway, when they have the models come audition, they are in the not audition, but come like before a show. They have on the clothes to see which clothes lookspect. She has no clothes to try on. She's admitted it. They're in Alaska. Well, everyone said that they're probably being pulled by one of those dogs on the sled. We're coming for you. Were Anna has them on her sled and they haven't made it. Yes, damn um. Then someone says the demise of Marlow's kin, the demise of Marlow and Kenya's friendship was Kenya's fault. They did show a lot of flashbacks things that Kenya has said tomorrow. I think they've both both. It's gone back and forth. I think, you know, I think they're both really good at being villains. And then this one I don't. I don't agree with ready for it to end. The season was born. I don't think it's born at all. I think it's great. We don't think it's boring because we were also watching Dubai so comparatively, Joe, we support all the shows, just some more than others, but all in all, I thought it was a good episode. I am intrigued to find out what happens next. And I really I need those clothes to be on that runway. Okay, And are you gonna buy something from her line? Well, I hope she likes it's enough that she's gonna send us one of those packages so that we'll put it on our instagrams. Teddy likes everything free. I love free things. It's free. It's for me. If it's free it comes to my doorstep, I probably will be happy about it. You know. I actually just did get something that was free that was great, and I'll have to send you a side text about it. But yeah, you send me one of those cold plunges that you do, I'll send you the guys info. They're the best thing ever. Not an ad Guy's just the cold plunge really is a game. But I've fallen out of habit with it, and I'm Eddie loves that I made it. I don't. I don't like freezing my nipples off. Eddie loves doing that. It's not going to freeze. It's not like cryotherapy. Where is this your nipples? I don't like cold? Well, I know, but you'll like the way you feel after, because you're like me where we sometimes we'll get like a little anxious about certain things. And you go in there and immediately you're like, well, I have developed tendonita's in my right elbow and they're going to talk about your foot from breaking it. Now you have a new ailment. No, yeah, this is a new one. That and because I've been running a lot, my hip is starting to hurt. And I stupidly said I was so shocked because Eddie got you know, when you run at your certain age, ship starts hurting. He was having problems with his lower back, and I'm like, I can't believe I haven't had any issues. We've been running like consistent for four months and we'll go four to six miles. Oh yeah, hip started hurting. So I'm like, ah, so that's where a cold plunge comes in. A cold plunge comes in, Um, you will feel better. But yeah, no, we all have like eggs and pants. It's part of it's part in getting up there. Chan No, I know, I got a birthday next week and on me, well, Tam, we've run out of time for today. We had a lot to get through. I know I felt like, you know, because I'm only doing one a week that I hardly see you anymore. I know I don't like it. You know what's coming up. I mean, I hate to be the bear and bad news. Tamra's birthday God right around the corner. God bite me, so hold on, I'm gonna happy birthday to you. I'm just kidding. Happy birthday, dear Tammera. Well, we love you here at two cheese in a pod, only singing once a week and not having thirsty Thursdays since it is really blowing for me. I don't like it, I am, but I feel I have a feeling in like two weeks I'm gonna see you on a Thursday, so okay, and we only have I only have like thirteen more weeks of only one week, so keep sending us in your messages on who you want to fill in on the days that tamp can not be here, because we want to meet all your requests. And I've loved, even though I really missed tam so much when I don't have her, I have loved getting other people's opinions on stuff because you know what changes it up, But not as much as I miss you do. You believe we're going to Vegas And we are going to Vegas for the I Heart Festival. You guys, we'll be doing live podcasts, we have some special guests, and I'm sure we'll get ourselves into a lot of trouble, So keep tuning in. Leave us a review, good or bad, we don't care, but definitely give us five stars. Yes,