Joy  gets into "financial submissives" — men who get off paying women online with zero physical contact and then digs into Gen Z women "parenting" their boyfriends (and getting called Mommy for it), and a $3,500 boot camp teaching grown men how to approach women and handle rejection. This week's Never Two Personal: the hill you'll die on, no matter what.

 

00:00 Intro

00:15 Financial Submissives: Inside the World of "Fin Doms"

06:06 Call Her Mommy: Gen Z Women Are Parenting Their Boyfriends

11:04 The $3,500 Bootcamp Teaching Men How To Talk To Women

22:51 Never Two Personal: The Hills We'll Die On 

28:06 Outro

Joy&nbsp; gets into "financial submissives" &mdash; men who get off paying women online with zero physical contact and then digs into Gen Z women "parenting" their boyfriends (and getting called Mommy for it), and a $3,500 boot camp teaching grown men how to approach women and handle rejection. This week's Never Two Personal: the hill you'll die on, no matter what.
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00:00 Intro
00:15 Financial Submissives: Inside the World of "Fin Doms"
06:06 Call Her Mommy: Gen Z Women Are Parenting Their Boyfriends
11:04 The $3,500 Bootcamp Teaching Men How To Talk To Women
22:51 Never Two Personal: The Hills We'll Die On&nbsp;
28:06 Outro

Finally, a podcast that gets brutally honest about the toughest conversations we need to have. The groundbreaking new show Two Personal facilitates thoughtful dialogue on hot-button topics. TV Personality Joy Taylor tackles these conversations head-on, getting candid in a way typically reserved for your inner circle. With equal parts humor and wisdom, Joy chats about culture and social issues. Unafraid to explore complex topics like racism, sexism, and mental health, she advances these conversations with nuance and compassion.

Two Personal with Joy Taylor

Fin Doms, Sugar Mamas & Bootcamp for Men Who Can't Take Rejection

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Pro Football Hall of Famer Michael Irvin sits down with Joy Taylor for an episode that goes way past football. Michael opens up about the time federal agents showed up at his own training camp because a scammer was using his identity to con women, a story he's kept quiet until now.

From there, the two get into the "divine order," turning 40 without kids, why he calls his dogs better roommates than people, the spiritual mentorship of Bishop T.D. Jakes, his emotional exit from the NFL, and a full-throated defense of Jerry Jones' legacy. Michael also reflects on Jimmy Johnson, the current state of NIL, and why he refuses to let anyone else's opinion override his own experience.

 

Chapters:

00:00 – Open

00:37 – Welcome Michael Irvin to Two Personal

01:28 – The Catfish Scandal: "Love Story" Scammer

02:09 – Michael's Own FBI Scare in His 2nd NFL Season

09:23 – "These Women Are Not Victims" — The Debate

14:16 – Common Sense vs. Hope: Locks on the Door Analogy

17:30 – "Why Don't We See White Folks Do This?"

20:36 – His Motto: Every Dime & Every Minute Out of This Body

22:44 – Turning 40, No Kids, and No Regrets

25:40 – Pups Over Peeps

26:00 – Taking Care of Everybody Since Age 17

28:16 – Trophies on the Table Before God

31:25 – Paradise Camp & Giving Back

32:39 – Bishop T.D. Jakes: His Spiritual Father

33:41 – The Identity Shock of Retiring From the NFL

36:33 – Why Football Teaches You Can't Win Alone

38:02 – Fight or Flight: The Nervous System Talk

39:36 – "Are We Too Hard on Jerry Jones?"

41:01 – Legacy Talk: Comparing Jerry to Dolly Parton

42:47 – Stephen A. Smith Friendship & Cancel Culture

54:24 – The Russell Crowe / Australia Story

56:01 – Jerry Jones' Facility Vision & Player Salaries

58:53 – Will There Ever Be Another Jimmy Johnson?

1:05:12 – Social Media, Quick Fame & NIL in College Football

1:08:01 – Closing Thoughts & Goodbyes

Pro Football Hall of Famer Michael Irvin sits down with Joy Taylor for an episode that goes way past football. Michael opens up about the time federal agents showed up at his own training camp because a scammer was using his identity to con women, a story he's kept quiet until now.
From there, the two get into the "divine order," turning 40 without kids, why he calls his dogs better roommates than people, the spiritual mentorship of Bishop T.D. Jakes, his emotional exit from the NFL, and a full-throated defense of Jerry Jones' legacy. Michael also reflects on Jimmy Johnson, the current state of NIL, and why he refuses to let anyone else's opinion override his own experience.
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Chapters:
00:00 &ndash; Open
00:37 &ndash; Welcome Michael Irvin to Two Personal
01:28 &ndash; The Catfish Scandal: "Love Story" Scammer
02:09 &ndash; Michael's Own FBI Scare in His 2nd NFL Season
09:23 &ndash; "These Women Are Not Victims" &mdash; The Debate
14:16 &ndash; Common Sense vs. Hope: Locks on the Door Analogy
17:30 &ndash; "Why Don't We See White Folks Do This?"
20:36 &ndash; His Motto: Every Dime &amp; Every Minute Out of This Body
22:44 &ndash; Turning 40, No Kids, and No Regrets
25:40 &ndash; Pups Over Peeps
26:00 &ndash; Taking Care of Everybody Since Age 17
28:16 &ndash; Trophies on the Table Before God
31:25 &ndash; Paradise Camp &amp; Giving Back
32:39 &ndash; Bishop T.D. Jakes: His Spiritual Father
33:41 &ndash; The Identity Shock of Retiring From the NFL
36:33 &ndash; Why Football Teaches You Can't Win Alone
38:02 &ndash; Fight or Flight: The Nervous System Talk
39:36 &ndash; "Are We Too Hard on Jerry Jones?"
41:01 &ndash; Legacy Talk: Comparing Jerry to Dolly Parton
42:47 &ndash; Stephen A. Smith Friendship &amp; Cancel Culture
54:24 &ndash; The Russell Crowe / Australia Story
56:01 &ndash; Jerry Jones' Facility Vision &amp; Player Salaries
58:53 &ndash; Will There Ever Be Another Jimmy Johnson?
1:05:12 &ndash; Social Media, Quick Fame &amp; NIL in College Football
1:08:01 &ndash; Closing Thoughts &amp; Goodbyes

Michael Irvin Tells His Daejon Love Story, Gets Personal About Life, Faith & Football 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/78a347aa-3282-4ac5-837c-a72300032082/clips/e7556c65-3d63-4819-9397-b4c100d12030/transcript

She doesn't fly. She drives — thousands of miles, every season, to watch her son play football. This week Joy sits down with Linda Fletcher, mother of University of Miami running back Mark Fletcher Jr., for a conversation that starts with road trip stories and a brand new RV (decked out with a painted tribute to Mark's late father) and turns into one of the most honest conversations about grief, family, and showing up.

Linda opens up about losing her husband, how it nearly changed her son's future in football, and how the entire University of Miami program; from teammates to the president of the school, showed up for her family when it mattered most. Plus: the "Mama Canes," meeting Michael Irvin, and why Linda believes family isn't about blood, it's about who shows up.
00:00 – Open: "She's driving all over the country"
00:32 – Welcome & introducing Linda Fletcher
01:32 – Joy's own team-mom road trip stories (and the "kidnapper van")
03:42 – "Fetching Fletcher's": the new RV road-trip series
04:40 – The RV reveal & Big Mark's tribute on the door
07:01 – Life on the road: RV parks, amenities, and cost
09:03 – Flying vs. driving: two very different travelers
10:58 – Strangers, hugs, and the "porcupine" theory
13:02 – Every game since Little League: why Mark always finds Mom
16:59 – Losing "Big Mark" and stepping up in his absence
19:42 – How the Canes showed up: five buses at the funeral
21:34 – Legacy, loyalty, and NIL in college football
23:00 – Meeting Michael Irvin & the "Mama Canes" family
26:46 – Outro: follow Fetching Fletcher's

She doesn't fly. She drives &mdash; thousands of miles, every season, to watch her son play football. This week Joy sits down with Linda Fletcher, mother of University of Miami running back Mark Fletcher Jr., for a conversation that starts with road trip stories and a brand new RV (decked out with a painted tribute to Mark's late father) and turns into one of the most honest conversations about grief, family, and showing up.
Linda opens up about losing her husband, how it nearly changed her son's future in football, and how the entire University of Miami program; from teammates to the president of the school, showed up for her family when it mattered most. Plus: the "Mama Canes," meeting Michael Irvin, and why Linda believes family isn't about blood, it's about who shows up.
<ul>
<li>00:00 &ndash; Open: "She's driving all over the country"</li>
<li>00:32 &ndash; Welcome &amp; introducing Linda Fletcher</li>
<li>01:32 &ndash; Joy's own team-mom road trip stories (and the "kidnapper van")</li>
<li>03:42 &ndash; "Fetching Fletcher's": the new RV road-trip series</li>
<li>04:40 &ndash; The RV reveal &amp; Big Mark's tribute on the door</li>
<li>07:01 &ndash; Life on the road: RV parks, amenities, and cost</li>
<li>09:03 &ndash; Flying vs. driving: two very different travelers</li>
<li>10:58 &ndash; Strangers, hugs, and the "porcupine" theory</li>
<li>13:02 &ndash; Every game since Little League: why Mark always finds Mom</li>
<li>16:59 &ndash; Losing "Big Mark" and stepping up in his absence</li>
<li>19:42 &ndash; How the Canes showed up: five buses at the funeral</li>
<li>21:34 &ndash; Legacy, loyalty, and NIL in college football</li>
<li>23:00 &ndash; Meeting Michael Irvin &amp; the "Mama Canes" family</li>
<li>26:46 &ndash; Outro: follow Fetching Fletcher's</li>
</ul>

Linda Fletcher: The Miami Mom Driving 18,000 Miles a Season for Her Son

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/78a347aa-3282-4ac5-837c-a72300032082/clips/164c5bc9-3e87-4489-b3db-b4bf008fc9af/transcript

AD (@itsAD) sits down with Joy for a wide-open conversation covering his path from the streets to rap to podcasting to building his own streaming lane and everything that's come with it. He talks candidly about fatherhood, including moving his daughter in full-time for high school and raising his nonverbal, autistic son Astro, plus how he's learned to tune out a famously toxic fanbase. Joy and AD also get into the viral "pay my bills" debate, the Daejon Love catfishing scandal, the WNBA dildo incident, and what it actually takes to build (and keep) an audience online.

00:00 — Open

00:20 — Welcome AD

01:09 — From the Streets to Streaming: AD's Intro

01:40 — Dealing With "Sell Out" Accusations

02:50 — Shoutout to His Son Astro & Raising a Nonverbal Kid 

03:44 — The Truth About IRL Streaming

06:11 — The Viral "Pay My Bills" Take

08:57 — Why Joy Will Never Be Financially Dependent on a Man

11:00 — What Real Partnership Looks Like

12:50 — Why It's "Hard to Keep a Man" (Debate)

16:00 — The WNBA Dildo Incident

18:16 — Breaking Down the Daejon Love Scam

23:00 — Moving His Daughter In & Everyday Dad Life

28:14 — Raising Astro: Keeping It Real Without Oversharing

30:00 — Hard Work vs. Internet Shortcuts

38:44 — From Gang Culture to Podcasting: Breaking Barriers

44:00 — Building a Loyal (Toxic) Community

48:50 — Body Standards, BBLs & Self-Acceptance

49:31 — New Commercial & His Health Glow-Up

52:23 — "If You Ran the World" — The Pit Bit

58:14 — Where to Find AD

59:00 — Learning to Handle Hate: Joy's Radio Roots

AD (@itsAD) sits down with Joy for a wide-open conversation covering his path from the streets to rap to podcasting to building his own streaming lane and everything that's come with it. He talks candidly about fatherhood, including moving his daughter in full-time for high school and raising his nonverbal, autistic son Astro, plus how he's learned to tune out a famously toxic fanbase. Joy and AD also get into the viral "pay my bills" debate, the Daejon Love catfishing scandal, the WNBA dildo incident, and what it actually takes to build (and keep) an audience online.
00:00 &mdash; Open
00:20 &mdash; Welcome AD
01:09 &mdash; From the Streets to Streaming: AD's Intro
01:40 &mdash; Dealing With "Sell Out" Accusations
02:50 &mdash; Shoutout to His Son Astro &amp; Raising a Nonverbal Kid&nbsp;
03:44 &mdash; The Truth About IRL Streaming
06:11 &mdash; The Viral "Pay My Bills" Take
08:57 &mdash; Why Joy Will Never Be Financially Dependent on a Man
11:00 &mdash; What Real Partnership Looks Like
12:50 &mdash; Why It's "Hard to Keep a Man" (Debate)
16:00 &mdash; The WNBA Dildo Incident
18:16 &mdash; Breaking Down the Daejon Love Scam
23:00 &mdash; Moving His Daughter In &amp; Everyday Dad Life
28:14 &mdash; Raising Astro: Keeping It Real Without Oversharing
30:00 &mdash; Hard Work vs. Internet Shortcuts
38:44 &mdash; From Gang Culture to Podcasting: Breaking Barriers
44:00 &mdash; Building a Loyal (Toxic) Community
48:50 &mdash; Body Standards, BBLs &amp; Self-Acceptance
49:31 &mdash; New Commercial &amp; His Health Glow-Up
52:23 &mdash; "If You Ran the World" &mdash; The Pit Bit
58:14 &mdash; Where to Find AD
59:00 &mdash; Learning to Handle Hate: Joy's Radio Roots

From the Streets to Streaming: AD Opens Up on Fatherhood, Fame & Toxic Fans

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/78a347aa-3282-4ac5-837c-a72300032082/clips/820c5fa6-5023-4ca1-be7f-b4ba009d757e/transcript

Fin Doms, Sugar Mamas & Bootcamp for Men Who Can't Take Rejection

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