This week Joy and Hayley discuss America's growing literacy crisis, why critical thinking is disappearing, whether speaking publicly about important issues actually creates change, burnout from always showing up for everyone else, and the difference between wanting community versus committing to it.

They wrap up with a hilarious Never Two Personal about girls trips, guys trips, and relationship double standards.

00:00 – Intro
00:19 – America's literacy crisis: the stats
02:15 – Growing up with strict reading rules
04:47 – "A stupid population is easier to control"
06:37 – The history of literacy as a control tactic
08:56 – Has Joy's relationship with speaking up changed?
11:52 – Is speaking out even making a difference?
16:04 – "Everyone's person, but not many are mine"
18:56 – Asking for help & letting go of shame
21:47 – Burnout: "My nervous system is shot"
22:33 – Never Two Personal: Girls trip vs. guys trip
28:23 – Outro