Kezie Apps is one of rugby league’s most decorated female players: Tigers captain, co-captain of the Jillaroos and the most capped Blues player in State of Origin. Oh and she's a Dally M winner too. Where's the NRLW heading next? She joins us this week to chat it through.

She made it to the top after being forced to give up the game at 12 because there weren't any clubs for the girls. What's the pathway for young players now? She's been immortalised in portrait at the Museum of Contemporary Art. How did that come about and what does it mean for visibility for the league? And she's played in twenty State of Origin games, this year as an integral part of NSW's historic clean-sweep series win. How did the Blues manage it?

We also talk the rapid rise of the NRLW, why the standard of the game keeps getting scarier (in the best way possible), and the power of visibility in women's sport to the talent coming through the pathways system. Plus: club culture, mentoring young players, life after footy, commentary dreams, TikTok slang confusion, and a fiery debate about sporting dynasties.

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Kezie Apps is one of rugby league&rsquo;s most decorated female players: Tigers captain, co-captain of the Jillaroos and the most capped Blues player in State of Origin. Oh and she's a Dally M winner too. Where's the NRLW heading next? She joins us this week to chat it through.
She made it to the top after being forced to give up the game at 12 because there weren't any clubs for the girls. What's the pathway for young players now? She's been immortalised in portrait at the Museum of Contemporary Art. How did that come about and what does it mean for visibility for the league? And she's played in twenty State of Origin games, this year as an integral part of NSW's historic clean-sweep series win. How did the Blues manage it?
We also talk the rapid rise of the NRLW, why the standard of the game keeps getting scarier (in the best way possible), and the power of visibility in women's sport to the talent coming through the pathways system. Plus: club culture, mentoring young players, life after footy, commentary dreams, TikTok slang confusion, and a fiery debate about sporting dynasties.
Harvey Norman love sport. Supporting Australian athletes at all levels, from grassroots to the world stage for over thirty years. SHOP Furniture, Bedding, TVs, Fridges, Vacuums, Laptops, Mobiles and more instore or online!&nbsp;

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Whether you’re a casual observer or a diehard fan, you’ll be brought up to speed on the people behind the narrative, why the story matters, and gain a new perspective on the issues at the pointy end of sport.

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Two Good Sports has featured stories from right across Australian sport, including tennis, cricket, rugby league, rugby union, and netball. It’s sports news told differently, keeping you informed of the biggest narratives around the country, including teams from the AFL; Collingwood, Carlton, Brisbane Lions, Sydney Swans, Geelong, Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs, and Essendon. If you’re an NRL fan, we’re got you covered too, from Penrith Panthers to Brisbane Broncos. We cover all the major domestic competitions; AFLW, State of Origin, Super Rugby, A-League, NBL, BBL, and the Melbourne Cup. We’ve got the best of international sport too, from Formula 1 to the Australian Open, and Commonwealth Games. We also bring you the latest stories from the world of football, like the Premier League, Champions League, and legends of the game, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. And we can’t forget Australia’s national teams competing on the international stage, from the Matildas and Socceroos to the Wallabies. When it comes to the people behind the narrative, the show has profiled some of sport’s leading athletes, icons and influencers including, Sam Kerr, Ange Postecoglou, Oscar Piastri, Alex De Minaur, Lachie Neale, Nathan Cleary, Ellyse Perry, Novak Djokovic, Nick Kyrgios, Chris Fagan, Chris Scott and Pat Cummins. Two Good Sports is also at the forefront of the biggest conversations around global sport, such as high performance, coaching, management, scouting, training, statistics, analytics, reviews, sponsorship, foundations, leadership, and fitness.

Sports news, told differently. What happens off the field is just as fun as what happens on it. Twice a week, seasoned sports broadcasters Georgie Tunny and Abbey Gelmi go through the biggest stories in sport, going behind the scenes to hear how elite athletes do what they do.
Whether you&rsquo;re a casual observer or a diehard fan, you&rsquo;ll be brought up to speed on the people behind the narrative, why the story matters, and gain a new perspective on the issues at the pointy end of sport.
Follow Two Good Sports on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/twogoodsportspodcast/?hl=en" aria-label="Link Instagram">Instagram</a>.
Two Good Sports has featured stories from right across Australian sport, including tennis, cricket, rugby league, rugby union, and netball. It&rsquo;s sports news told differently, keeping you informed of the biggest narratives around the country, including teams from the AFL; Collingwood, Carlton, Brisbane Lions, Sydney Swans, Geelong, Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs, and Essendon. If you&rsquo;re an NRL fan, we&rsquo;re got you covered too, from Penrith Panthers to Brisbane Broncos. We cover all the major domestic competitions; AFLW, State of Origin, Super Rugby, A-League, NBL, BBL, and the Melbourne Cup. We&rsquo;ve got the best of international sport too, from Formula 1 to the Australian Open, and Commonwealth Games. We also bring you the latest stories from the world of football, like the Premier League, Champions League, and legends of the game, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. And we can&rsquo;t forget Australia&rsquo;s national teams competing on the international stage, from the Matildas and Socceroos to the Wallabies. When it comes to the people behind the narrative, the show has profiled some of sport&rsquo;s leading athletes, icons and influencers including, Sam Kerr, Ange Postecoglou, Oscar Piastri, Alex De Minaur, Lachie Neale, Nathan Cleary, Ellyse Perry, Novak Djokovic, Nick Kyrgios, Chris Fagan, Chris Scott and Pat Cummins. Two Good Sports is also at the forefront of the biggest conversations around global sport, such as high performance, coaching, management, scouting, training, statistics, analytics, reviews, sponsorship, foundations, leadership, and fitness.

Two Good Sports

Two Good Sports is your twice-weekly deep dive beyond the sports headlines. Join leading broadcasters Abbey Gelmi and Georgie Tunny as they break down the biggest sports stories and unpack the human drama. Whether you’re a casual observer or a diehard fan, you’ll be brought up to speed on the people behind the narrative, why the story matters, and gain a new perspective and better understanding of the issues at the forefront of sport.

Follow Two Good Sports on Instagram.

Two Good Sports has featured stories from right across Australian sport, including tennis, cricket, rugby league, rugby union, and netball. It’s sports news told differently, keeping you informed of the biggest narratives around the country, including teams from the AFL; Collingwood, Carlton, Brisbane Lions, Sydney Swans, Geelong, Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs, and Essendon. If you’re an NRL fan, we’re got you covered too, from Penrith Panthers to Brisbane Broncos. We cover all the major domestic competitions; AFLW, State of Origin, Super Rugby, A-League, NBL, BBL, and the Melbourne Cup. We’ve got the best of international sport too, from Formula 1 to the Latest stories from the world of football, like the Premier League, Champions League, and legends of the game, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. And we can’t forget Australia’s national teams competing on the international stage, from the Matildas and Socceroos to the Wallabies. When it comes to the people behind the narrative, the show has profiled some of sport’s leading athletes, icons and influencers including, Sam Kerr, Ange Postecoglou, Oscar Piastri, Alex De Minaur, Lachie Neale, Nathan Cleary, Ellyse Perry, Novak Djokovic, Nick Kyrgios, Chris Fagan, Chris Scott and Pat Cummins. Two Good Sports is also at the forefront of the biggest conversations around global sport, such as high performance, coaching, management, scouting, training, statistics, analytics, reviews, sponsorship, foundations, leadership, and fitness.

Two Good Sports is your twice-weekly deep dive beyond the sports headlines. Join leading broadcasters Abbey Gelmi and Georgie Tunny as they break down the biggest sports stories and unpack the human drama. Whether you&rsquo;re a casual observer or a diehard fan, you&rsquo;ll be brought up to speed on the people behind the narrative, why the story matters, and gain a new perspective and better understanding of the issues at the forefront of sport.
Follow Two Good Sports on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/twogoodsportspodcast/?hl=en">Instagram</a>.
Two Good Sports has featured stories from right across Australian sport, including tennis, cricket, rugby league, rugby union, and netball. It&rsquo;s sports news told differently, keeping you informed of the biggest narratives around the country, including teams from the AFL; Collingwood, Carlton, Brisbane Lions, Sydney Swans, Geelong, Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs, and Essendon. If you&rsquo;re an NRL fan, we&rsquo;re got you covered too, from Penrith Panthers to Brisbane Broncos. We cover all the major domestic competitions; AFLW, State of Origin, Super Rugby, A-League, NBL, BBL, and the Melbourne Cup. We&rsquo;ve got the best of international sport too, from Formula 1 to the Latest stories from the world of football, like the Premier League, Champions League, and legends of the game, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. And we can&rsquo;t forget Australia&rsquo;s national teams competing on the international stage, from the Matildas and Socceroos to the Wallabies. When it comes to the people behind the narrative, the show has profiled some of sport&rsquo;s leading athletes, icons and influencers including, Sam Kerr, Ange Postecoglou, Oscar Piastri, Alex De Minaur, Lachie Neale, Nathan Cleary, Ellyse Perry, Novak Djokovic, Nick Kyrgios, Chris Fagan, Chris Scott and Pat Cummins. Two Good Sports is also at the forefront of the biggest conversations around global sport, such as high performance, coaching, management, scouting, training, statistics, analytics, reviews, sponsorship, foundations, leadership, and fitness.

Could NRLW players go fully pro by 2028? Wests Tigers captain and Dally M winner Kezie Apps talks TV deals, switching codes and Origin clean sweeps

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