This week we sit down with the man behind Choc’s Chats, Jake Cullen, who you might recognise from social media for his funny videos, which are suspiciously similar to Ash’s.

So naturally, the guys have a lot to talk about.

Choc and Ash actually have a very similar meet-cute to Matt and Ash… although there’s one fairly significant difference: they’ve pashed. On a work trip.

So prepare for some jealousy. Mostly from Matt.

But beneath the pashing and petty rivalry, Choc opens up about becoming a dad to 18-month-old Bobby, including one of the hardest decisions he and Kate have ever had to make while she was pregnant.

He also gets honest about the dad guilt he never saw coming, the pressure to be present while also keeping everything else going, and why the juggle of work, parenting and life is very real.

And yes, Matt is still processing the fact that Choc has kissed Ash.

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