What is that? Guilty? Guilty?

What is that? Guilty? Guilty?

I did make some money on a certain platform with my feet.

I did make some money on a certain platform with my feet.

How fard you go up? Was it just feet?

How fard you go up? Was it just feet?

Feet? And Dick? Welcome back to two doting dads. But it's with a difference. Today it's with a doting mum. You interrupt me already.

Feet? And Dick? Welcome back to two doting dads. But it's with a difference. Today it's with a doting mum. You interrupt me already.

It's with a doting mum usually looking at Matt, but now I've got the pleasure of looking at Matt's wife and arguably the better parent, Laura Burn.

It's with a doting mum usually looking at Matt, but now I've got the pleasure of looking at Matt's wife and arguably the better parent, Laura Burn.

Thank you for joining us.

Thank you for joining us.

Definitely not the better parent.

Definitely not the better parent.

That will be the judge of that.

That will be the judge of that.

I have been solo parenting for one week now and everything surprisingly has been going okay. But I have some very big choose to fill and I need to admit because I feel like I should have done my research and listened to some recent episodes just to get into the listen to it keaven for a little bit. Okay, let me finish the intro then, thank you. I don't know what stories Matt shared or whether I'm going to be telling the truth.

I have been solo parenting for one week now and everything surprisingly has been going okay. But I have some very big choose to fill and I need to admit because I feel like I should have done my research and listened to some recent episodes just to get into the listen to it keaven for a little bit. Okay, let me finish the intro then, thank you. I don't know what stories Matt shared or whether I'm going to be telling the truth.

We'll find out.

We'll find out.

This is a parenting podcast, the good, the bad, and the relatable, and we do not give any advice real advice unless you want to take it anyway.

This is a parenting podcast, the good, the bad, and the relatable, and we do not give any advice real advice unless you want to take it anyway.

Lauria doesn't listen to us. I've just found out. So that's a good start. I do.

Lauria doesn't listen to us. I've just found out. So that's a good start. I do.

I just have been so busy parenting this week that haven't been able to listen as regularly as I would.

I just have been so busy parenting this week that haven't been able to listen as regularly as I would.

I'm not used to running the episode and Matte usually runs the episode, so please.

I'm not used to running the episode and Matte usually runs the episode, so please.

Bear with me.

Bear with me.

Wow, this is Ash feeling completely out of his depth right now? Do you feel confident? Do you feel comfortable? How are you coping with my husband being away?

Wow, this is Ash feeling completely out of his depth right now? Do you feel confident? Do you feel comfortable? How are you coping with my husband being away?

Look, I'm struggling. It's only been at three minutes. But have you had a This is not about me, This is about you.

Look, I'm struggling. It's only been at three minutes. But have you had a This is not about me, This is about you.

Okay, So Matt as I'm sure you guys are all aware he's now in the I'm a celebrity jungle. By the time you're listening to this, it would have been on TV right there would have been a couple of episodes.

Okay, So Matt as I'm sure you guys are all aware he's now in the I'm a celebrity jungle. By the time you're listening to this, it would have been on TV right there would have been a couple of episodes.

Yeah, you potentially have played out. You should have been like four days in or three days.

Yeah, you potentially have played out. You should have been like four days in or three days.

What did Matt update you guys on before him going away. Did he tell you about how that went with the kids and what this period for us has been like.

What did Matt update you guys on before him going away. Did he tell you about how that went with the kids and what this period for us has been like.

Yeah, so he gave us an idea just how chaotic it was in trying to get loose ends tied up.

Yeah, so he gave us an idea just how chaotic it was in trying to get loose ends tied up.

Yeah, so Matt told I mean, he kind of left it really late. He told the girls that he was going away to do the show, but he didn't really think through the logistics of that. So firstly, he told both the girls specifically that he was going to Africa and he was going on a TV show called I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here.

Yeah, so Matt told I mean, he kind of left it really late. He told the girls that he was going away to do the show, but he didn't really think through the logistics of that. So firstly, he told both the girls specifically that he was going to Africa and he was going on a TV show called I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here.

As a five year old knows where Africa is.

As a five year old knows where Africa is.

The the thing is she does. What she doesn't realize is what ndeser. So Maley had been going to day it. Marley had been going to vacation care and telling every single person, my dad's going on I'm a Celebrity, get me out.

The the thing is she does. What she doesn't realize is what ndeser. So Maley had been going to day it. Marley had been going to vacation care and telling every single person, my dad's going on I'm a Celebrity, get me out.

Of here, and he's going to Africa.

Of here, and he's going to Africa.

So we rocked up to pick Molley up from school and this was like a week before he left, and the teachers.

So we rocked up to pick Molley up from school and this was like a week before he left, and the teachers.

Were like, good luck.

Were like, good luck.

On the show, everyone knew, so I know it was meant to be embargoed, but if you live in Bondai, three quarters of Marley, it's Marley May And he also told Lola, and because Lola actually like kind of hates Matt and doesn't really care if he's there or not. Unfortunately he's great dad, but he he's not Lola's favorite.

On the show, everyone knew, so I know it was meant to be embargoed, but if you live in Bondai, three quarters of Marley, it's Marley May And he also told Lola, and because Lola actually like kind of hates Matt and doesn't really care if he's there or not. Unfortunately he's great dad, but he he's not Lola's favorite.

Yeah, that's yeah. We've we did a period a whole year on that. Yeah.

Yeah, that's yeah. We've we did a period a whole year on that. Yeah.

So he broke it to her that he was going away, and her reaction to that was girl's Day and it broke his goddamn heart.

So he broke it to her that he was going away, and her reaction to that was girl's Day and it broke his goddamn heart.

Oh, I bet because he's worked so hard at the last twelve months of try and it's kind of pathetic how hard you work, because he was like just trying to win her over, and every and every time he won her over last year, you'd come back into the room or I think you were away for a little while there, and it was Matt and the girls, and he was like, she's got no one else, so she's stuck with me. So hopefully by the time that Laura gets back, not forgotten about Laura. But I have evened it up a little bit so that I am a parent, yeah straight away apparently.

Oh, I bet because he's worked so hard at the last twelve months of try and it's kind of pathetic how hard you work, because he was like just trying to win her over, and every and every time he won her over last year, you'd come back into the room or I think you were away for a little while there, and it was Matt and the girls, and he was like, she's got no one else, so she's stuck with me. So hopefully by the time that Laura gets back, not forgotten about Laura. But I have evened it up a little bit so that I am a parent, yeah straight away apparently.

Almost almost, but she no to be fair, she goes through these periods where she how do I describe it, It's like nah, nah, actually take it back now. She always just wants me more.

Almost almost, but she no to be fair, she goes through these periods where she how do I describe it, It's like nah, nah, actually take it back now. She always just wants me more.

She's she's a manipulator.

She's she's a manipulator.

I've noticed she manipulates him, I know, but they're good at it.

I've noticed she manipulates him, I know, but they're good at it.

Macy's also does the same thing.

Macy's also does the same thing.

But one thing that stuck out for me was he was like I had won her over, like we're vibing, it was all good, and.

But one thing that stuck out for me was he was like I had won her over, like we're vibing, it was all good, and.

Then he said, I, he's your own daughter.

Then he said, I, he's your own daughter.

He turned around two quick ones and she was behind him and knocked her over.

He turned around two quick ones and she was behind him and knocked her over.

And that.

And that.

Is the unraveling.

Is the unraveling.

And that's how quick it can unravel her.

And that's how quick it can unravel her.

I've told Matt, I've tried to give him advice on this, because it is a real thing. It's called parental preference, right, when a child prefers one parent over the other.

I've told Matt, I've tried to give him advice on this, because it is a real thing. It's called parental preference, right, when a child prefers one parent over the other.

Is a real thing.

Is a real thing.

Yeah, again, usually.

Yeah, again, usually.

Kind of a parenting podcast. I don't know that.

Kind of a parenting podcast. I don't know that.

Usually kids grow out of it at three. Lola is almost four and showing absolutely no signs of growing out of it anytime soon. But I like lovingly tried to explain to Matt that I just think, like I think Lola smells it on him. I think he reeks of desperation.

Usually kids grow out of it at three. Lola is almost four and showing absolutely no signs of growing out of it anytime soon. But I like lovingly tried to explain to Matt that I just think, like I think Lola smells it on him. I think he reeks of desperation.

We've said that. I said, I can smell it on you from.

We've said that. I said, I can smell it on you from.

Here, mate, and she reminds me of me. But when I was like twenty years old, like I never wanted to be around the nice guys, and he's so nice to her. I was like, you just need to be a little bit.

Here, mate, and she reminds me of me. But when I was like twenty years old, like I never wanted to be around the nice guys, and he's so nice to her. I was like, you just need to be a little bit.

More sassy.

More sassy.

Again.

Again.

Exactly right.

Exactly right.

She's taken all my toxic traits from my early dating years.

She's taken all my toxic traits from my early dating years.

That's what this is.

That's what this is.

But I think, look, six weeks of her having potentially, if he does well, thing has crossed everyone vote. Six weeks of him being away, I feel as though either it's gonna be it's gonna be like the real antithesis of that, it's gonna be a real issue, or it's gonna be the opposite. Because the other night at dinner time, like she had no one else to fight with, so I was trying to get her fed and it was a whole debacle and it ended in her storming up the stairs and screaming, I want.

But I think, look, six weeks of her having potentially, if he does well, thing has crossed everyone vote. Six weeks of him being away, I feel as though either it's gonna be it's gonna be like the real antithesis of that, it's gonna be a real issue, or it's gonna be the opposite. Because the other night at dinner time, like she had no one else to fight with, so I was trying to get her fed and it was a whole debacle and it ended in her storming up the stairs and screaming, I want.

Why dead out.

Why dead out.

I was like, fuck, if only was here to feel that, or he is so happy.

I was like, fuck, if only was here to feel that, or he is so happy.

I know, and no one was, like, no one was there to fight with her, So she was like, fuck, no one If that's a kryptonite.

I know, and no one was, like, no one was there to fight with her, So she was like, fuck, no one If that's a kryptonite.

Did Matt tell you before he went away that he has a leg secret sign on the show for the girls?

Did Matt tell you before he went away that he has a leg secret sign on the show for the girls?

No?

No?

So, I mean it's gonna be hard for him. He's been acting very much like in the last couple of weeks that he's been pretty nonchalant about the whole thing, and then when it came actually to crunch time and him going away, he got really emotional and he had this station with the girls. He had a big cry.

So, I mean it's gonna be hard for him. He's been acting very much like in the last couple of weeks that he's been pretty nonchalant about the whole thing, and then when it came actually to crunch time and him going away, he got really emotional and he had this station with the girls. He had a big cry.

He's going to cry. Okay, here's my prediction. We put a prediction out there.

He's going to cry. Okay, here's my prediction. We put a prediction out there.

He had a big cry.

He had a big cry.

This is my prediction on the show is that Matt will cry a lot.

This is my prediction on the show is that Matt will cry a lot.

He's the best.

He's the best.

He'll cry a lot. And he'll also get snappy a lot. Because he gets snappy when he's hungry.

He'll cry a lot. And he'll also get snappy a lot. Because he gets snappy when he's hungry.

I feel like that could be a really a good too, doting Dad's drinking game. If anyone's watching the show and you want to know like when to drink, it's when Matt cries and when he says something piece listeners.

I feel like that could be a really a good too, doting Dad's drinking game. If anyone's watching the show and you want to know like when to drink, it's when Matt cries and when he says something piece listeners.

I love that guy.

I love that guy.

Matt can be a real fucking piece of work when he's hungry, though, So that might come back to.

Matt can be a real fucking piece of work when he's hungry, though, So that might come back to.

About it work with him. Every day he has.

About it work with him. Every day he has.

This little sign where he's going to do like a little love heart sign to the camera for the girls.

This little sign where he's going to do like a little love heart sign to the camera for the girls.

I'm going to make it about me. You know, I'm going to make that about me. We know who it's really fall.

I'm going to make it about me. You know, I'm going to make that about me. We know who it's really fall.

And go, well, okay, how.

And go, well, okay, how.

Is this going to go over the next few weeks, because obviously with Matt being gone, could be two weeks, could be six weeks. How many of these are we doing?

Is this going to go over the next few weeks, because obviously with Matt being gone, could be two weeks, could be six weeks. How many of these are we doing?

As many as you like? Is April doing? He is like a contingency plan.

As many as you like? Is April doing? He is like a contingency plan.

Did she know that she's part of the contention plan?

Did she know that she's part of the contention plan?

Nod. I've got the valuum stock up stocked out so we can get her on. That's the only way we can get about voluum and a glass of wine.

Nod. I've got the valuum stock up stocked out so we can get her on. That's the only way we can get about voluum and a glass of wine.

It'll be April just here like.

It'll be April just here like.

She was.

She was.

I watched that Mac go on TV the other night, any krad Al and I'm still drunk.

I watched that Mac go on TV the other night, any krad Al and I'm still drunk.

All right, We'll see you back here every week.

All right, We'll see you back here every week.

Then Matt gave was an update on Lola changing schools, because we are in January and there's a lot of change happening, like my kids Marley going to a big school, Oscar going to big school, but Lola's had to change daycares. First of all, I want your side of the story. I'm really going to set mat up here, and I'm really sorry Matt when you do hear this. What is your thoughts on the changing of the school and what's your side of the story of how it happens.

Then Matt gave was an update on Lola changing schools, because we are in January and there's a lot of change happening, like my kids Marley going to a big school, Oscar going to big school, but Lola's had to change daycares. First of all, I want your side of the story. I'm really going to set mat up here, and I'm really sorry Matt when you do hear this. What is your thoughts on the changing of the school and what's your side of the story of how it happens.

I am horrified by everything, So okay, I feel as though a decision was made that I was not a part of.

I am horrified by everything, So okay, I feel as though a decision was made that I was not a part of.

And to set the scene on there.

And to set the scene on there.

So Lola's been going to one daycare since she was about nine months old she's now almost four, Like she's been going there pretty much her whole life. The daycare teachers from that daycare are also some of her babysitters, Like she has her little friends there, Like she's so ingrained in that daycare, and she's so confident there, and we also know it's an amazing daycare. Likes it's really really great. The annoying thing is is that it's probably about a forty minute drive round trip to drop her off in the mornings, because it's back where we used to live. It's not far, but it's like the traffic can be bad.

So Lola's been going to one daycare since she was about nine months old she's now almost four, Like she's been going there pretty much her whole life. The daycare teachers from that daycare are also some of her babysitters, Like she has her little friends there, Like she's so ingrained in that daycare, and she's so confident there, and we also know it's an amazing daycare. Likes it's really really great. The annoying thing is is that it's probably about a forty minute drive round trip to drop her off in the mornings, because it's back where we used to live. It's not far, but it's like the traffic can be bad.

In the morning. It's simmy everywhere.

In the morning. It's simmy everywhere.

It's just annoying.

It's just annoying.

Sometimes I look at the GPS and it's like five k's thirty minutes.

Sometimes I look at the GPS and it's like five k's thirty minutes.

I'm like, what, it's exactly that, but it's actually it's And also because Matt leaves it late, so he drops her off during school time like smack on when all the school kids which are across the road a going. So Matt he drops her off a couple of times a week, but I also do the pickup, so I pick her up on the way home from work, so where her daycare was was more convenient for me for a pickup, but more annoying for drop off. Cool establish that he came home this one day and had the idea that because Marley's going to school now, that he was going to unenroll Lola from her daycare and enroll her in a different daycare which is closer by three minutes to us, but it's the same daycare that his sister takes Lola's cousin too, so that way they can co share.

I'm like, what, it's exactly that, but it's actually it's And also because Matt leaves it late, so he drops her off during school time like smack on when all the school kids which are across the road a going. So Matt he drops her off a couple of times a week, but I also do the pickup, so I pick her up on the way home from work, so where her daycare was was more convenient for me for a pickup, but more annoying for drop off. Cool establish that he came home this one day and had the idea that because Marley's going to school now, that he was going to unenroll Lola from her daycare and enroll her in a different daycare which is closer by three minutes to us, but it's the same daycare that his sister takes Lola's cousin too, so that way they can co share.

The drop of options. I like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure co share for co brother and sister parenting lovely.

The drop of options. I like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure co share for co brother and sister parenting lovely.

For only ten months though, because our niece is going to go to school like next year, so there's only ten months, so there's still going to be an additional year where we have to do that ourselves. So great in theory, but also not great in theory because when that decision was made, I originally was like, hey, I don't think this is a great idea, but it was also preceded him going and doing I'm a celebrity, and so I kind of felt like, Okay, well, if you're not going to be here, surely the easiest and best route should be the route that's like calm for Lola and fine for her from a transition perspective, and also for me since I'm doing all the pickups and drop offs, Like, why would we make a change that's actually going to make my life harder over this six weeks than anyway. So we had many fights about it. I lost. She's now going to a different daycare, and she fucking hates it. And yesterday, no wonder she hates him, she hates it. Yesterday she cried from the second I dropped Maley at school the whole way there, and then held onto her car seat, screaming as I pulled her out to take her inside. And so this is my question to you, Ash. Matt is no longer here, which means he can't make parenting decisions. Am I the asshole? If at the four week mark and he's not home and I'm still dealing with this, can I unenroll her and send her back to the old daycare?

For only ten months though, because our niece is going to go to school like next year, so there's only ten months, so there's still going to be an additional year where we have to do that ourselves. So great in theory, but also not great in theory because when that decision was made, I originally was like, hey, I don't think this is a great idea, but it was also preceded him going and doing I'm a celebrity, and so I kind of felt like, Okay, well, if you're not going to be here, surely the easiest and best route should be the route that's like calm for Lola and fine for her from a transition perspective, and also for me since I'm doing all the pickups and drop offs, Like, why would we make a change that's actually going to make my life harder over this six weeks than anyway. So we had many fights about it. I lost. She's now going to a different daycare, and she fucking hates it. And yesterday, no wonder she hates him, she hates it. Yesterday she cried from the second I dropped Maley at school the whole way there, and then held onto her car seat, screaming as I pulled her out to take her inside. And so this is my question to you, Ash. Matt is no longer here, which means he can't make parenting decisions. Am I the asshole? If at the four week mark and he's not home and I'm still dealing with this, can I unenroll her and send her back to the old daycare?

Send it back now, Send it back now time he gets back. Whenever he gets back, it's going to be too late. But when this comes out, he won't be able to hear it.

Send it back now, Send it back now time he gets back. Whenever he gets back, it's going to be too late. But when this comes out, he won't be able to hear it.

So by the time he actually hears this, she'll be probably two or three weeks deep and back.

So by the time he actually hears this, she'll be probably two or three weeks deep and back.

And it's like, leave earlier. Bro, It's it's so hard that.

And it's like, leave earlier. Bro, It's it's so hard that.

I mean, anyone who's been through the process of trying to change their kids to a new daycare, it's it's like it is soul crushing. And when you have to leave your kid with a stranger and they're screaming, crying and their friends aren't there and they've got no friends. And I got into the car and I just burst out crying. I was so sad because she.

I mean, anyone who's been through the process of trying to change their kids to a new daycare, it's it's like it is soul crushing. And when you have to leave your kid with a stranger and they're screaming, crying and their friends aren't there and they've got no friends. And I got into the car and I just burst out crying. I was so sad because she.

Cried in the car or not, because that's the thing.

Cried in the car or not, because that's the thing.

You can't You shouldn't cry in front of them because then they think I'm never going to see you again. Don't cry. Don't cry on the show. Actually cry, that'd be great for the socials.

You can't You shouldn't cry in front of them because then they think I'm never going to see you again. Don't cry. Don't cry on the show. Actually cry, that'd be great for the socials.

Cry damn it.

Cry damn it.

I couldn't. I had to let she was holding it to Actually she wasn't holding it together. I was holding it together. Yeah, And I was just devastated for her and she the next day I picked her up and she was like, Mommy, I have no friends. I don't know anyone's name, like, she was so so sad. Yeah, and I'm not used to her being sad. I'm used to her being like a fucking ruller recog. She's like, yeah, she's like my sassy kind of like a little bit angsty, angry, little four year old that nothing phases, and here she is being all sad and vulnerable.

I couldn't. I had to let she was holding it to Actually she wasn't holding it together. I was holding it together. Yeah, And I was just devastated for her and she the next day I picked her up and she was like, Mommy, I have no friends. I don't know anyone's name, like, she was so so sad. Yeah, and I'm not used to her being sad. I'm used to her being like a fucking ruller recog. She's like, yeah, she's like my sassy kind of like a little bit angsty, angry, little four year old that nothing phases, and here she is being all sad and vulnerable.

It broke me.

It broke me.

Oscar's going to big school this year. But just with work and stuff, we've got to do the odd casual day. Yeah, because April's back at work and I'm here, back at work, and.

Oscar's going to big school this year. But just with work and stuff, we've got to do the odd casual day. Yeah, because April's back at work and I'm here, back at work, and.

I very hard. It's good to see I'm hard work. I had an app today. You started at two thirty. I literally did, what time is it? I'm done. It's two forty two, I'm done.

I very hard. It's good to see I'm hard work. I had an app today. You started at two thirty. I literally did, what time is it? I'm done. It's two forty two, I'm done.

I So I dropped him and Macy off yesterday and none of his friends were there, but Macy had friends there.

I So I dropped him and Macy off yesterday and none of his friends were there, but Macy had friends there.

And then I was like oh, I was really I was actually really worried.

And then I was like oh, I was really I was actually really worried.

And I drove past and Oscar was playing with Macy and someone else's playing, and I rang April up.

And I drove past and Oscar was playing with Macy and someone else's playing, and I rang April up.

I'm like, none of his friends. I feel terrible, and you do feel bad?

I'm like, none of his friends. I feel terrible, and you do feel bad?

Did he cry?

Did he cry?

Was there any tea?

Was there any tea?

No, he's sort of like at the stage now where he's like if Macey's there, he's pretty happy. He's chill because he'll look after Macy all day. He'll play whatever Macy's playing. And thankfully he came home yesterday and some of his friends arrived after I'd left.

No, he's sort of like at the stage now where he's like if Macey's there, he's pretty happy. He's chill because he'll look after Macy all day. He'll play whatever Macy's playing. And thankfully he came home yesterday and some of his friends arrived after I'd left.

If he was hysterical, what would you do?

If he was hysterical, what would you do?

I've gone back in and got him and spent the day with him. I've done that once.

I've gone back in and got him and spent the day with him. I've done that once.

That is shocking to me.

That is shocking to me.

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

I wouldn't have picked that, or that I've got a heart.

I wouldn't have picked that, or that I've got a heart.

Not that.

Not that.

But just like I think that because I worry, and I thought about going back in and getting her and being like, oh, just I'm not doing this today, like I'll just stay home from work and be with you. But then I thought that if I did that, I would actually just make it worse for the next day. I thought I would just reinforce that if she has a huge tantrum and she cries her eyes out that then more Mum would just come back and get me.

But just like I think that because I worry, and I thought about going back in and getting her and being like, oh, just I'm not doing this today, like I'll just stay home from work and be with you. But then I thought that if I did that, I would actually just make it worse for the next day. I thought I would just reinforce that if she has a huge tantrum and she cries her eyes out that then more Mum would just come back and get me.

Yeah. See the difference here was it wasn't it was, it was a different cry.

Yeah. See the difference here was it wasn't it was, it was a different cry.

I love that because I think that, I mean, it's very surprisingly sentimental of you, Oush and vulnerable, but I think that you can sew, you can so deeply second guess what's the right thing to do, and everyone always tells you, oh, well when they when you walk away, they're fine fifteen minutes later, like that's kind of the thought when.

I love that because I think that, I mean, it's very surprisingly sentimental of you, Oush and vulnerable, but I think that you can sew, you can so deeply second guess what's the right thing to do, and everyone always tells you, oh, well when they when you walk away, they're fine fifteen minutes later, like that's kind of the thought when.

And majority of the time that that could be the case. Yeah, but it.

And majority of the time that that could be the case. Yeah, but it.

Hasn't been for us this time with Lola, and I know that this is going to be a few weeks and it's going to be really hard. It just kind of sucks that it's coincided when Matt's not here. Had day, but I will, but I will tend to pick her up. At the end of the day, she'd been there to four point thirty and she just looked like she'd been crying all day, and the teachers said, yeah, she cried on an awful day and often was saying how much she misses you, and asked when you're coming to pick her up, and I don't know, Like I mean, I know that she is resilient, and I know that she will be fine the more that we stick to it, But I don't know if I have that resilience in parenting. And then you have that big question of You're like, well, is this one of those moments where like it's going to be better for her in the long run.

Hasn't been for us this time with Lola, and I know that this is going to be a few weeks and it's going to be really hard. It just kind of sucks that it's coincided when Matt's not here. Had day, but I will, but I will tend to pick her up. At the end of the day, she'd been there to four point thirty and she just looked like she'd been crying all day, and the teachers said, yeah, she cried on an awful day and often was saying how much she misses you, and asked when you're coming to pick her up, and I don't know, Like I mean, I know that she is resilient, and I know that she will be fine the more that we stick to it, But I don't know if I have that resilience in parenting. And then you have that big question of You're like, well, is this one of those moments where like it's going to be better for her in the long run.

I don't know. He sees you being resilient about it. She might be more resilient about it too. You just give up, and what sort of message does that leave?

I don't know. He sees you being resilient about it. She might be more resilient about it too. You just give up, and what sort of message does that leave?

So I shouldn't send her back to her audation podcast now sorry, where we unpack our feelings, hold each other and cry, and maybe it won't just be Matt crying I will also be growing by the end of the show as well.

So I shouldn't send her back to her audation podcast now sorry, where we unpack our feelings, hold each other and cry, and maybe it won't just be Matt crying I will also be growing by the end of the show as well.

I would give it how long has been two weeks? In two weeks? Give it another week? Okay, that's true.

I would give it how long has been two weeks? In two weeks? Give it another week? Okay, that's true.

I had planned on giving it four to six weeks, So like I was going to give it potentially until that comes home. Is this I do hope he stays in there longer than two weeks, Like if he comes home first, I think we've overshot it with how excited we've been and how much like.

I had planned on giving it four to six weeks, So like I was going to give it potentially until that comes home. Is this I do hope he stays in there longer than two weeks, Like if he comes home first, I think we've overshot it with how excited we've been and how much like.

Whoa you better do? Really well? Imagine if he gets out first, I don't think so, it'd be worse than him in there, Like there has to be someone If ray Gun goes in, she's out first, surely do you know what they'll say, there's no kangaroos alouded here and now bounce you away out of here.

Whoa you better do? Really well? Imagine if he gets out first, I don't think so, it'd be worse than him in there, Like there has to be someone If ray Gun goes in, she's out first, surely do you know what they'll say, there's no kangaroos alouded here and now bounce you away out of here.

There's been so many I think it's a very big possibility it is going to be her by the time this comes out. Well know, so like we're all going to know that she's in there or not. But anyway, well that is all the updates in the Burne Johnson household.

There's been so many I think it's a very big possibility it is going to be her by the time this comes out. Well know, so like we're all going to know that she's in there or not. But anyway, well that is all the updates in the Burne Johnson household.

I can't wait for a couple of days. I want to see the girl's reaction. I'm going to watch this season.

I can't wait for a couple of days. I want to see the girl's reaction. I'm going to watch this season.

Are you going to come to our house potentially on Sunday night?

Are you going to come to our house potentially on Sunday night?

You guys should, That's a great idea, come.

You guys should, That's a great idea, come.

And do a watch party. I've invited a lot of people over.

And do a watch party. I've invited a lot of people over.

But can I be drunk?

But can I be drunk?

Yes, you stay, stay the night, do have.

Yes, you stay, stay the night, do have.

An event in the afternoon, but I can come afterwards because I'm a busy man. You are so popular.

An event in the afternoon, but I can come afterwards because I'm a busy man. You are so popular.

I'm going to the basketball Okay, so you will be drunk. Great, perfect, that's exactly how I like you. Actually ash what has been happening in your household.

I'm going to the basketball Okay, so you will be drunk. Great, perfect, that's exactly how I like you. Actually ash what has been happening in your household.

She's taken it upon herself to toilet train herself.

She's taken it upon herself to toilet train herself.

Well done. I always knew she was a genius.

Well done. I always knew she was a genius.

Well we look, we're trying to we're trying to toilet train her, but only because she's pretty much forcing it upon us. She's just keep taking a nappy off everywhere. So we're and we're look, we highly encourage it straight away.

Well we look, we're trying to we're trying to toilet train her, but only because she's pretty much forcing it upon us. She's just keep taking a nappy off everywhere. So we're and we're look, we highly encourage it straight away.

How old is Macy now?

How old is Macy now?

Just three?

Just three?

It's time?

It's time?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm like with her and I was like, oh sweet, because we were going to anyway.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm like with her and I was like, oh sweet, because we were going to anyway.

So how do you go about the toilet training? Like, how do you approach this?

So how do you go about the toilet training? Like, how do you approach this?

So during the day, we're in undies and it's the constant do you need to go the toilet? What do you do if you go to need to go the toilet? She's got a little toilet shaped potty, like a proper looking toilet thing, which she loves.

So during the day, we're in undies and it's the constant do you need to go the toilet? What do you do if you go to need to go the toilet? She's got a little toilet shaped potty, like a proper looking toilet thing, which she loves.

It's pink, it's.

It's pink, it's.

Beautiful, gorgeous.

Beautiful, gorgeous.

I wish I had one when she goes. When we can get you on from child size there, yeah, I'd use it. Although we've I've heard about your shits. It's full to the single use single they are because you can take it out, put it in the toilet, wash it. Obviously she loves it. But she just disappears, like where's Macey? And you looked down the hall and she's sitting on it, which is great. So she's really good. She the first little while, she would just I don't know with kids, if they're into something, they're doing something, they just piss, right what like?

I wish I had one when she goes. When we can get you on from child size there, yeah, I'd use it. Although we've I've heard about your shits. It's full to the single use single they are because you can take it out, put it in the toilet, wash it. Obviously she loves it. But she just disappears, like where's Macey? And you looked down the hall and she's sitting on it, which is great. So she's really good. She the first little while, she would just I don't know with kids, if they're into something, they're doing something, they just piss, right what like?

So like early time, you mean she's distracted, she's not thinking about the toilet.

So like early time, you mean she's distracted, she's not thinking about the toilet.

She's real simple. She'll just weak because you think she forgets that she's not in a nappy anymore.

She's real simple. She'll just weak because you think she forgets that she's not in a nappy anymore.

Do you have underwear on her?

Do you have underwear on her?

Yes?

Yes?

Okay, that's where you're going wrong. Pantless so no pants at all, and you just like you have to just suck it up and do three days staying at home. Don't stuck the piss up, just stay at home.

Okay, that's where you're going wrong. Pantless so no pants at all, and you just like you have to just suck it up and do three days staying at home. Don't stuck the piss up, just stay at home.

Oh damn, easy, clean up a paper straw for the environment. I've think of the turtles.

Oh damn, easy, clean up a paper straw for the environment. I've think of the turtles.

You've got to do three days of no pants, no underwear, just be at home. So it's like as close to the potty as possible, so she can easily access it. But it's almost like I find that having them with no pants on is their constant reminder that when they need to go, they need to go to the toilet, where when they've got underwear on, they think it's a nappy, so they're not actually thinking about the fact that they need to go.

You've got to do three days of no pants, no underwear, just be at home. So it's like as close to the potty as possible, so she can easily access it. But it's almost like I find that having them with no pants on is their constant reminder that when they need to go, they need to go to the toilet, where when they've got underwear on, they think it's a nappy, so they're not actually thinking about the fact that they need to go.

So I am.

So I am.

I mean, one thing that I think we we didn't have as many struggles with when it comes to like parenting, was the potty training thing. I had a friend who was like, just once you've made the decision, don't.

I mean, one thing that I think we we didn't have as many struggles with when it comes to like parenting, was the potty training thing. I had a friend who was like, just once you've made the decision, don't.

Do any of this.

Do any of this.

Oh, we'll put a nappy when we go out of the house and then we'll They're like, you just got to You've got to bite the bullet. You gotta go three days, hardcore, no pants for three days, just stay at home, and within three days they will be so close to being potty trained that you can like manage it way better.

Oh, we'll put a nappy when we go out of the house and then we'll They're like, you just got to You've got to bite the bullet. You gotta go three days, hardcore, no pants for three days, just stay at home, and within three days they will be so close to being potty trained that you can like manage it way better.

We're way past the three days, okay, unfortunately, but like we still wears a nappy when she goes to bed, because yeah, of course she every fucking day long still has a nappy. Yeah, but she takes it off even when we were leaving the house. We're still in Undie's work. We had ditched the nappies during the day, which is great because then we'd be like, we can't go anywhere into your weed, right, And I think it was like two or three days in it was really just after Christmas, and we were to this new park that's sort of been done up near our place in the afternoon.

We're way past the three days, okay, unfortunately, but like we still wears a nappy when she goes to bed, because yeah, of course she every fucking day long still has a nappy. Yeah, but she takes it off even when we were leaving the house. We're still in Undie's work. We had ditched the nappies during the day, which is great because then we'd be like, we can't go anywhere into your weed, right, And I think it was like two or three days in it was really just after Christmas, and we were to this new park that's sort of been done up near our place in the afternoon.

Great and it's got like a really big, windy slide, amazing fun.

Great and it's got like a really big, windy slide, amazing fun.

Kids are playing, having a great time and this is going it's perfect. And I'm at the bottom of the slide and I just see a trickle of what I thought at the time was water and it slightly built up a puddle at the bottom of the slide, and I was like, what the fuck.

Kids are playing, having a great time and this is going it's perfect. And I'm at the bottom of the slide and I just see a trickle of what I thought at the time was water and it slightly built up a puddle at the bottom of the slide, and I was like, what the fuck.

There's kids. There's more than just my kids there. I was like, what the fuck is this?

There's kids. There's more than just my kids there. I was like, what the fuck is this?

And I was like, maybe someone's poured like a bottle of water down there. And then Macy comes sliding into her own pool of pits.

And I was like, maybe someone's poured like a bottle of water down there. And then Macy comes sliding into her own pool of pits.

It's Macy's own water slide.

It's Macy's own water slide.

She literally and I was like, what the fuck and she slipped her and then she gets off the slide and goes it's wet, like she.

She literally and I was like, what the fuck and she slipped her and then she gets off the slide and goes it's wet, like she.

Didn't know, and I was like, fuck, how'd you pack spare clothes.

Didn't know, and I was like, fuck, how'd you pack spare clothes.

We did.

We did.

We packed spare clothes, thankfully, but like we didn't have any wipes to wipe this slide down.

We packed spare clothes, thankfully, but like we didn't have any wipes to wipe this slide down.

Fuck it, that's someone else's problem. Macey's got her own wet and wild going on. She's just like who can't put over Christmas?

Fuck it, that's someone else's problem. Macey's got her own wet and wild going on. She's just like who can't put over Christmas?

So I got the what she was in. She was in a dress.

So I got the what she was in. She was in a dress.

I took the dress off, put her in a new dress. I sent oscar up there with the wet dress to come back down the slide to clean the wee off the slide.

I took the dress off, put her in a new dress. I sent oscar up there with the wet dress to come back down the slide to clean the wee off the slide.

That was very responsible of you. I can't be sure that I would have done that.

That was very responsible of you. I can't be sure that I would have done that.

There was people right there, and I think they would have walked away if there was no one there, I'll believe in that piece of dry out.

There was people right there, and I think they would have walked away if there was no one there, I'll believe in that piece of dry out.

It's like when your dog does a poo but it's nighttime and you're like, could I get away with this? Should I pick this up? Or the always I always do?

It's like when your dog does a poo but it's nighttime and you're like, could I get away with this? Should I pick this up? Or the always I always do?

Always the fake pick up my old man does used to do. The fake pick up is the.

Always the fake pick up my old man does used to do. The fake pick up is the.

Fake pickup where you just pick up next to it, but you don't actually pick it up. Yeah, don't know what you're talking about.

Fake pickup where you just pick up next to it, but you don't actually pick it up. Yeah, don't know what you're talking about.

Me where these things, my friends where it would be like if you had went to go pick up your dog shit.

Me where these things, my friends where it would be like if you had went to go pick up your dog shit.

Everyone someone would fill me been.

Everyone someone would fill me been.

Like, oh.

Like, oh.

So childish.

So childish.

There is still so from when Matt and I like when The Bachelor was on air a million years ago. Now there is still Pat pictures and it's a series of Pat pictures of just of me picking.

There is still so from when Matt and I like when The Bachelor was on air a million years ago. Now there is still Pat pictures and it's a series of Pat pictures of just of me picking.

Up dog shit. That's good gear.

Up dog shit. That's good gear.

And it was a full Daily Mail article just about me being environmentally conscious and how I clean up after my dog.

And it was a full Daily Mail article just about me being environmentally conscious and how I clean up after my dog.

So if anyone know you eat it after.

So if anyone know you eat it after.

Tough times back.

Tough times back.

Then, yeah, I feel like.

Then, yeah, I feel like.

With dog shit is if you don't pick it up, you're just going to step in it along the line. It's a cycle.

With dog shit is if you don't pick it up, you're just going to step in it along the line. It's a cycle.

I think like karma, it's karma.

I think like karma, it's karma.

I saw this fantastic TikTok or Instagram or something the other day and this mum was talking about how she was going through the stage of potty training, right, and she said, the thing that's the hardest is when you know that your kid has done a shit somewhere, but you just don't know where, right, so I can smell it, I know that it's happened.

I saw this fantastic TikTok or Instagram or something the other day and this mum was talking about how she was going through the stage of potty training, right, and she said, the thing that's the hardest is when you know that your kid has done a shit somewhere, but you just don't know where, right, so I can smell it, I know that it's happened.

You become a bloodhound like a truffle pig.

You become a bloodhound like a truffle pig.

So she was walking around the house documenting like where is the turd?

So she was walking around the house documenting like where is the turd?

Where is it? It's got to be somewhere. That'd be a really good idea for a book. And where's the book? Where's the turd?

Where is it? It's got to be somewhere. That'd be a really good idea for a book. And where's the book? Where's the turd?

And the little boy has fallen asleep. He's asleep like next to the couch, so he hasn't fallen asleep in his bed. He's asleep just like next to the couch on the ground. The mom's walking around trying to find the pooh oh. She finds it. It's in his hands, holding on to it next.

And the little boy has fallen asleep. He's asleep like next to the couch, so he hasn't fallen asleep in his bed. He's asleep just like next to the couch on the ground. The mom's walking around trying to find the pooh oh. She finds it. It's in his hands, holding on to it next.

To his head.

To his head.

I'll try and find this. It was absolute goal.

I'll try and find this. It was absolute goal.

How comforting.

How comforting.

You know how kids have that aversion where they think it's theirs, like they sometimes kids get upset when you flush it down a toilet or whatever because it's their part of their body.

You know how kids have that aversion where they think it's theirs, like they sometimes kids get upset when you flush it down a toilet or whatever because it's their part of their body.

Yeah, so he was just holding on I store all my semen, jess face. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Yeah, so he was just holding on I store all my semen, jess face. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Where do you put it?

Where do you put it?

Where do you put it? Never you mind? Yeah? Sorry?

Where do you put it? Never you mind? Yeah? Sorry?

To sell it on only fans, you would do something. It would be a slide business completely.

To sell it on only fans, you would do something. It would be a slide business completely.

There's no swimmers in there, I know.

There's no swimmers in there, I know.

But it's like the woman who sells her farts like it's of no use, but like someone buys it really there's a woman on Yeah, there's a selles of farts. Yeah, there's another person that they're unfit sweat the dark holes I go down on the internet.

But it's like the woman who sells her farts like it's of no use, but like someone buys it really there's a woman on Yeah, there's a selles of farts. Yeah, there's another person that they're unfit sweat the dark holes I go down on the internet.

You never you mind? How much money can I make? Do you think?

You never you mind? How much money can I make? Do you think?

I don't know?

I don't know?

Ash?

Ash?

How much did you make from selling.

How much did you make from selling.

Feet of your business? None of your business anyway?

Feet of your business? None of your business anyway?

So yeah, Like I know, when when I changed Macy's nappy, if she's done it, she won't she has to pull it in nappy still.

So yeah, Like I know, when when I changed Macy's nappy, if she's done it, she won't she has to pull it in nappy still.

She might be sitting on the toilet, but she has to be wearing an appy. Oh the comfort. Yeah, But I like whenever I try and change it, she's like I want to see it, you know, like there's a there's a connection that they have with it.

She might be sitting on the toilet, but she has to be wearing an appy. Oh the comfort. Yeah, But I like whenever I try and change it, she's like I want to see it, you know, like there's a there's a connection that they have with it.

I think every parent can like remember that, or if they're going through themselves now, like the time when your kid's doing that transition of toilet training and they want you to put a nappy back on them so that they can go and do a poo. So you put a nappy on them, and then they'll go and hide behind the couch and go red face. But you know that that's what they're doing. But they need the security of the nappy because yeah, poo's are just a whole nother kettle of fish.

I think every parent can like remember that, or if they're going through themselves now, like the time when your kid's doing that transition of toilet training and they want you to put a nappy back on them so that they can go and do a poo. So you put a nappy on them, and then they'll go and hide behind the couch and go red face. But you know that that's what they're doing. But they need the security of the nappy because yeah, poo's are just a whole nother kettle of fish.

So Macie will go into and for some reason she picks our bedroom to be her place to pooh. I would too, Yeah, just shit on my fucking pillow, not your pillow.

So Macie will go into and for some reason she picks our bedroom to be her place to pooh. I would too, Yeah, just shit on my fucking pillow, not your pillow.

It's just a it's comforting, you know, being close to mom and dad.

It's just a it's comforting, you know, being close to mom and dad.

And she can't it's a vulnerable moment. She can't pronounce the letter T, so like I'll come up the hallway and I hear this not yep. She's not ready for me to change it, so she's like, not yep, not yep, and then I'll walk in and it will fucking s.

And she can't it's a vulnerable moment. She can't pronounce the letter T, so like I'll come up the hallway and I hear this not yep. She's not ready for me to change it, so she's like, not yep, not yep, and then I'll walk in and it will fucking s.

So Macy is the sweetest little thing.

So Macy is the sweetest little thing.

She is cute.

She is cute.

She's so cute.

She's so cute.

She is cute.

She is cute.

Can you get a record of not yep, going there somewhere the cuteness that is little she is.

Can you get a record of not yep, going there somewhere the cuteness that is little she is.

Yeah, she's she's very she's very cute. At the moment, she's sort of trying to say more words like Oscar was such a yapper. He is a yapper like his dad. It's just fucking yeap, yep. Yeah, I'm just like, fuck me, He's.

Yeah, she's she's very she's very cute. At the moment, she's sort of trying to say more words like Oscar was such a yapper. He is a yapper like his dad. It's just fucking yeap, yep. Yeah, I'm just like, fuck me, He's.

Like, do you know what he's like?

Like, do you know what he's like?

So my grandmother can talk the leg off a chair. Literally, she can talk underwater with a mouthful of marbles.

So my grandmother can talk the leg off a chair. Literally, she can talk underwater with a mouthful of marbles.

He's just like that.

He's just like that.

Well, at least you know that he's got some good genes. At least you know that that's your son.

Well, at least you know that he's got some good genes. At least you know that that's your son.

Maybe I don't know where she came from. She's a ginger and she's white as a goat. She glows in the dark.

Maybe I don't know where she came from. She's a ginger and she's white as a goat. She glows in the dark.

Even I was suspicious.

Even I was suspicious.

Yeah, I was like, that's the that's the milkman's.

Yeah, I was like, that's the that's the milkman's.

People explained herself on this one. Yet, Yeah, getting canceled. I do hope that I don't get you guys cancer And Matt's done a.

People explained herself on this one. Yet, Yeah, getting canceled. I do hope that I don't get you guys cancer And Matt's done a.

Really good It's meant to be, is it? It doesn't matter.

Really good It's meant to be, is it? It doesn't matter.

I have a question for you, and it's I wonder if it's something you've experienced with your kids. So, and I know I talk about Lola a lot, and that's probably because Molly's Molly is like quite reliable. She kind of doesn't do anything that's outside the ordinary in terms of like she's very consistent in her behavior and in her personality. She really and she's like it's in the way she gets ricky because I'm a creature habit, and that's a creature the same I am too. I'm like, same lunch every day, Like I am such a person that likes to do the same thing on repeat.

I have a question for you, and it's I wonder if it's something you've experienced with your kids. So, and I know I talk about Lola a lot, and that's probably because Molly's Molly is like quite reliable. She kind of doesn't do anything that's outside the ordinary in terms of like she's very consistent in her behavior and in her personality. She really and she's like it's in the way she gets ricky because I'm a creature habit, and that's a creature the same I am too. I'm like, same lunch every day, Like I am such a person that likes to do the same thing on repeat.

Like a serial killer.

Like a serial killer.

Yeah, really similar, similar traits when I think about it, And I've always identified just.

Yeah, really similar, similar traits when I think about it, And I've always identified just.

To listen to if I go missing. You know, the number one suspect is go on.

To listen to if I go missing. You know, the number one suspect is go on.

Well, okay, So Marley's consistent. She also is like a little bit of a you know, an A plus student kind of thing. Like she's very smart.

Well, okay, So Marley's consistent. She also is like a little bit of a you know, an A plus student kind of thing. Like she's very smart.

She's a very humble brag. This is a humble parent.

She's a very humble brag. This is a humble parent.

My child's genius.

My child's genius.

She's so clever.

She's so clever.

Whereas Lola's a bit more radical. You don't know what you're going to get from her, right, Like she is the outlier and it keeps life interesting. And I think it's a second child thing, but who knows, it could just be the wild card of parenting. So Lola is now in a phase where if she hurts me, I'm in the wrong. So she scratched my face yesterday. She got so angry at me that she she lashed and scratched my face. This was preceding her screaming I want my daddy. She she did it to the cat and I said, don't do that to the cat. So then she turned around and did it to my face, and I was like, hey, like, we don't do that, and that really hurt. Like I got upset because she got me straight in the eye, but I didn't get angry. I didn't yell.

Whereas Lola's a bit more radical. You don't know what you're going to get from her, right, Like she is the outlier and it keeps life interesting. And I think it's a second child thing, but who knows, it could just be the wild card of parenting. So Lola is now in a phase where if she hurts me, I'm in the wrong. So she scratched my face yesterday. She got so angry at me that she she lashed and scratched my face. This was preceding her screaming I want my daddy. She she did it to the cat and I said, don't do that to the cat. So then she turned around and did it to my face, and I was like, hey, like, we don't do that, and that really hurt. Like I got upset because she got me straight in the eye, but I didn't get angry. I didn't yell.

I was just like, WHOA like that?

I was just like, WHOA like that?

No, No, I didn't.

No, No, I didn't.

I was really like, WHOA like that? Like, you don't do that.

I was really like, WHOA like that? Like, you don't do that.

That hurt mummy, Like mummy, Mummy's upset. That hurt me. And her response was.

That hurt mummy, Like mummy, Mummy's upset. That hurt me. And her response was.

Yo, hurt me, and shet Emotionally.

Yo, hurt me, and shet Emotionally.

I'm like, yeah, like I manipulated her because my hurt upset her. So then now she storms off and she manages to twist a situation.

I'm like, yeah, like I manipulated her because my hurt upset her. So then now she storms off and she manages to twist a situation.

Gaslighted, just gas gas it by four year old, just manipulating the whole household.

Gaslighted, just gas gas it by four year old, just manipulating the whole household.

So she manages to I mean, obviously, don't apologize. I'm not like a battered mom. But at the same time, I'm like, how do I explain to you that actually you're not always the one that's the victim in every situation challenging?

So she manages to I mean, obviously, don't apologize. I'm not like a battered mom. But at the same time, I'm like, how do I explain to you that actually you're not always the one that's the victim in every situation challenging?

I don't know neither. I don't think I'm doing a good job this parenting thing.

I don't know neither. I don't think I'm doing a good job this parenting thing.

I remember Macey hit April once at the beach, which tiny little Mazy.

I remember Macey hit April once at the beach, which tiny little Mazy.

It was like.

It was like.

She patted April and shop technically she patted April on the back, but like it was at the beach, so like skin it was made a slap. And I think like Macy's the one who cries. They might be embarrassed that they know they've done the wrong thing in front of you or to you.

She patted April and shop technically she patted April on the back, but like it was at the beach, so like skin it was made a slap. And I think like Macy's the one who cries. They might be embarrassed that they know they've done the wrong thing in front of you or to you.

Yeah, yeah, but it's not and I'm sorry.

Yeah, yeah, but it's not and I'm sorry.

Cry, it's you hurt me. Cry.

Cry, it's you hurt me. Cry.

Yeah, but I think I'm angry you make me feel bad.

Yeah, but I think I'm angry you make me feel bad.

I think that's a knee jerk trigger response because they don't understand the emotion or what it's called. I think they feel like I know when Oscar accidentally the other he poked me in the eye. It was it was a blatant accident. And my reactions straight away because because it fucking hurts you get poked in the eye. You've only got two of them, and you can lose them pretty quickly.

I think that's a knee jerk trigger response because they don't understand the emotion or what it's called. I think they feel like I know when Oscar accidentally the other he poked me in the eye. It was it was a blatant accident. And my reactions straight away because because it fucking hurts you get poked in the eye. You've only got two of them, and you can lose them pretty quickly.

I reckon.

I reckon.

I can imagine you were upset.

I can imagine you were upset.

They're bits of jelly in your head.

They're bits of jelly in your head.

We're all we all know what I balls up.

We're all we all know what I balls up.

If someone put their mouth over your eye and sucked hard enough, it had come out. That's what we're dealing with here.

If someone put their mouth over your eye and sucked hard enough, it had come out. That's what we're dealing with here.

I don't think that's true.

I don't think that's true.

Would should we try go yet?

Would should we try go yet?

Anyway, he poked me in the eye and it was an accident, but my knee jerk response was oh fuck, and he got really upset, like you saw it.

Anyway, he poked me in the eye and it was an accident, but my knee jerk response was oh fuck, and he got really upset, like you saw it.

No, I didn't swear. I actually didn't say fuck. I just said that for comedic effect. I was like ah. I was like ah, noticeably it hurt and it was clearly an accident.

No, I didn't swear. I actually didn't say fuck. I just said that for comedic effect. I was like ah. I was like ah, noticeably it hurt and it was clearly an accident.

But he then got upset around me, like I forced his finger into my eye, and I think it's the same thing. I think maybe she doesn't know the response or the emotion. I'm just going to get more upset.