In this episode of the podcast, Ben is joined by a television icon who's been a household name in Australia for well over two decades. Ian 'Dicko' Dickson is known for his outspoken personality and memorable television appearances. Including his time on Australian Idol and now The Traitors Australia.

In this chat, he opens up about his experience on the reality TV show, discussing the game he thought he was playing versus the one that was actually unfolding around him.

The conversation delves into Ian's reunion with fellow Australian Idol contestant Cosima Devido, his relationships with other original Idol contestants and why he believes authenticity and conflict are essential in making great reality television. Ian also shares his thoughts on the current state of television, including the importance of authenticity and the need for meaningful storytelling.

One of the most interesting aspects of this episode is Ian's candid discussion about his time on The Traitors Australia. Including the tension between him and fellow cast member Krissy Marsh. He also talks about the show's format, which allows contestants to be themselves and play the game they want to play, without producer meddling. This approach is a refreshing change from the typical reality TV formula.

If you're a fan of reality TV, television history or just want to hear from a true television icon? This episode is a must-listen. Ian 'Dicko' Dickson shares his insights and experiences in a way that's both entertaining and thought-provoking. Join us as we chat with Ian about his time on The Traitors Australia, his career and what makes great television.