The act of lying seems to be an inherently human trait at times, but when we dig a bit deeper beneath the surface we see that nature practices deception all the time.

As part of the 2025 Australasian Society for the Study of Animal Behaviour conference and ahead of the release of his latest book, we caught up with James to chat about his work, and the incredible ways that animals deceive us and others. 

The act of lying seems to be an inherently human trait at times, but when we dig a bit deeper beneath the surface we see that nature practices deception all the time.
As part of the 2025 Australasian Society for the Study of Animal Behaviour conference and ahead of the release of his latest book, we caught up with James to chat about his work, and the incredible ways that animals deceive us and others.&nbsp;

TuneFM brings you thoughtful conversations with leading researchers and experts, unpacking today's most pressing issues through a solutions-focused lens.  Broadcasting from Australia's oldest university broadcaster at the University of New England, we continue our proud tradition of engaging public discourse that began in 1970.

Each week, we dive deep into current events and emerging research with UNE's brightest minds and experts from the community.  From climate adaptation to social policy, our guests offer evidence-based insights and constructive approaches to today's challenges.  As part of CBAA's Newshub network, TuneFM's work helps these vital conversations reach audiences across Australia's through National Radio News and The Wire.

Join us as we build on TuneFM's legacy of meaningful dialogue and positive change, bringing academic expertise to bear on the questions that matter most to our community.  Listen wherever you get your podcasts or tune in through TuneFM, UNE's student powered radio.

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TuneFM brings you thoughtful conversations with leading researchers and experts, unpacking today's most pressing issues through a solutions-focused lens.  Broadcasting from Australia's oldest university broadcaster at the University of New England, we continue our proud tradition of engaging public discourse that began in 1970.
Each week, we dive deep into current events and emerging research with UNE's brightest minds and experts from the community.  From climate adaptation to social policy, our guests offer evidence-based insights and constructive approaches to today's challenges.  As part of CBAA's Newshub network, TuneFM's work helps these vital conversations reach audiences across Australia's through National Radio News and The Wire.
Join us as we build on TuneFM's legacy of meaningful dialogue and positive change, bringing academic expertise to bear on the questions that matter most to our community.  Listen wherever you get your podcasts or tune in through TuneFM, UNE's student powered radio.
Brought to you by UNE Life. All music licensed through APRA AMCOS.

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Can Animals Lie - with James O'Hanlon

Last week Taylor Swift made an announcement that many fans have long been waiting for: she now owns the master recordings of all six of her early albums. 

To learn why this is a big deal, we sat down with copyright and IP expert and Taylor Swift fan, Dr Wellett Potter from the University of New England.

Dr Potter has also written a Conversation article on the topic, which you can read here: https://theconversation.com/taylor-swift-now-owns-all-the-music-she-has-ever-made-a-copyright-expert-breaks-it-down-257965

Last week Taylor Swift made an announcement that many fans have long been waiting for: she now owns the master recordings of all six of her early albums.&nbsp;
To learn why this is a big deal, we sat down with copyright and IP expert and Taylor Swift fan, Dr Wellett Potter from the University of New England.
Dr Potter has also written a Conversation article on the topic, which you can read here: https://theconversation.com/taylor-swift-now-owns-all-the-music-she-has-ever-made-a-copyright-expert-breaks-it-down-257965

Taylor Swift Owns Her Own Music Again - Here's Why That's A Big Deal

Fossils play an important part in how we interact with and understand our environment - including those environments long past. 

There's a wealth of fossils in Lightning Ridge, which can teach us much about the mid-Cretaceous, and that's exactly what today's guest, Sherri Donaldson, is working on.

We caught up with Sherri for World Environment Day to talk about how these ancient creatures can teach us not just about the past, but also our future. 

Fossils play an important part in how we interact with and understand our environment - including those environments long past.&nbsp;
There's a wealth of fossils in Lightning Ridge, which can teach us much about the mid-Cretaceous, and that's exactly what today's guest, Sherri Donaldson, is working on.
We caught up with Sherri for World Environment Day to talk about how these ancient creatures can teach us not just about the past, but also our future.&nbsp;

What Can Opalised Fossils Tell Us About Ancient Environments

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners are advised that this episode discusses heavy topics surrounding the Myall Creek Massacre of 1838, and may contain the names of people who have died.

This year marks the 25th anniversary of the Myall Creek Memorial in it's current form. Over 180 years ago, settlers murdered at least 28 Aboriginal people who had taken refuge from colonial violence at Myall Creek Station. 

What makes this event different to others is that it was the first and only time in Australian history where white settlers were charged with the murder of Aboriginal people. Seven men were hanged.

Each year around June 10th, the Friends of Myall Creek mark the occasion with a memorial service, now held at the site. In 2018 The University of New England's School of Law became involved, running a symposium ahead of the memorial at the Oorala Aboriginal Centre. 

In today's episode, Ash sits down with Julie Collins and Andrew Lawson, two members of the Armidale branch of the Friends of Myall Creek, about their involvement in the memorial, the symposium, and its relevance to the study of law in NSW, and the act of Reconciliation. 

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners are advised that this episode discusses heavy topics surrounding the Myall Creek Massacre of 1838, and may contain the names of people who have died.
This year marks the 25th anniversary of the Myall Creek Memorial in it's current form. Over 180 years ago, settlers murdered at least 28 Aboriginal people who had taken refuge from colonial violence at Myall Creek Station.&nbsp;
What makes this event different to others is that it was the first and only time in Australian history where white settlers were charged with the murder of Aboriginal people. Seven men were hanged.
Each year around June 10th, the Friends of Myall Creek mark the occasion with a memorial service, now held at the site. In 2018 The University of New England's School of Law became involved, running a symposium ahead of the memorial at the Oorala Aboriginal Centre.&nbsp;
In today's episode, Ash sits down with Julie Collins and Andrew Lawson, two members of the Armidale branch of the Friends of Myall Creek, about their involvement in the memorial, the symposium, and its relevance to the study of law in NSW, and the act of Reconciliation.&nbsp;

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