This week is part two with Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor, authors of End Times Fascism: And the Fight for the Living World. They discuss Peter Thiel’s billionaire gathering called the Apocalypse Ball, how Silicon Valley’s AI arms race borrows from religious promises of salvation and fears of the end of the world, and how cozy billionaires and tech companies are getting with the Trump administration.

They also get into the rapid acceleration of AI data centers, the dystopian growing relationship between Big Tech and the military, and who pays the price for billionaires’ visions of the future. Plus, Naomi and Astra explain how communities are fighting back, and how collective action can turn apocalyptic dread into something more useful than waiting for the world to end.

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End Times Fascism: And the Fight for the Living World

This week is part two with Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor, authors of End Times Fascism: And the Fight for the Living World. They discuss Peter Thiel&rsquo;s billionaire gathering called the Apocalypse Ball, how Silicon Valley&rsquo;s AI arms race borrows from religious promises of salvation and fears of the end of the world, and how cozy billionaires and tech companies are getting with the Trump administration.
They also get into the rapid acceleration of AI data centers, the dystopian growing relationship between Big Tech and the military, and who pays the price for billionaires&rsquo; visions of the future. Plus, Naomi and Astra explain how communities are fighting back, and how collective action can turn apocalyptic dread into something more useful than waiting for the world to end.
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Trust Me is a weekly interview podcast about cults, extreme belief, and the fine line between devotion and delusion—told through firsthand accounts from the people who lived it. Hosted by two women who’ve been in cults themselves, Lola Blanc and Meagan Elizabeth, the show features survivors from groups like Heaven’s Gate, the Manson Family, NXIVM, OneTaste and more–sharing personal stories of how they got in, how they got out, and everything in between.

Each week, they invite these guests alongside experts who can dive deep into seductive leaders, the darker aspects of organized religion, and the subtler shades of groupthink and the psychology of influence. Trust Me explores it all with unfiltered honesty, dark humor, and a lot of heart. This isn’t a sensationalized deep dive into cults—it’s a compassionate, first-person exploration of what it means to believe, to belong, and to break free. At the end of the day, wanting to believe in something bigger than yourself is one of the most human instincts there is.

Trust Me is a weekly interview podcast about cults, extreme belief, and the fine line between devotion and delusion&mdash;told through firsthand accounts from the people who lived it.&nbsp;Hosted by two women who&rsquo;ve been in cults themselves, Lola Blanc and Meagan Elizabeth, the show&nbsp;features survivors from groups like Heaven&rsquo;s Gate, the Manson Family, NXIVM, OneTaste and more&ndash;sharing personal stories of how they got in, how they got out, and everything in between.
Each week, they invite&nbsp;these guests&nbsp;alongside experts who can dive deep into seductive leaders, the darker aspects of organized religion, and the subtler shades of groupthink and the psychology of influence. Trust Me explores it all with unfiltered honesty, dark humor, and a lot of heart.&nbsp;This isn&rsquo;t a sensationalized deep dive into cults&mdash;it&rsquo;s a compassionate, first-person exploration of what it means to believe, to belong, and to break free.&nbsp;At the end of the day, wanting to believe in something bigger than yourself is one of the most human instincts there is.

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

Naomi Klein & Astra Taylor, Part 2 - Billionaires, Big Tech, and the Power of Collective Action

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