Devin and Carolina discuss the first four episodes of the new season of The Bachelorette and why it should be subtitled “Because of Trauma”. They talk about Rachel’s absolute terror surrounding love, the nightmare cruise ship, not being able to remember the new host’s name, whether silence is a green flag or a red flag in men, why Rachel gets all the worst dates including smelling men’s armpits and why all of these men feel the need to insult Gabby. Plus - men talking about therapy as a kink, ABC trying to inflict the patriarchy on two girls who just wanna be friends, why Gabby is a comedian and a national hero and of course… the dog book heard round the world. Oh, and Carolina perfects her Gabby impression while Devin puts out a PSA to get in touch with her betrothed Meatball.