Ruby Franke and her husband Kevin started posting their family online in 2015 under the pseudonym 8 Passengers. Things like birthday parties, grocery hauls, tips on getting toddlers to sleep through the night, and Sunday baking. It was an all-access pass inside their lives, and people loved it.

But over the years, the criticism grew about the way Ruby and Kevin were choosing to discipline their kids. Fast forward to 2024, and Ruby and her business partner Jodie Hildebrandt were both charged with aggravated child abuse against the YouTuber's youngest two children.

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Guest: Paula Barros & Jessica Lowther. 

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<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/ruby-franke">Ruby Franke</a> and her husband Kevin started posting their family online in 2015 under the pseudonym 8 Passengers. Things like birthday parties, grocery hauls, tips on getting toddlers to sleep through the night, and Sunday baking. It was an all-access pass inside their lives, and people loved it.
But over the years, the criticism grew about the way Ruby and Kevin were choosing to discipline their kids. Fast forward to 2024, and Ruby and her business partner Jodie Hildebrandt were both charged with aggravated child abuse against the YouTuber's youngest two children.
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Guest: Paula Barros &amp; Jessica Lowther. 
You can listen to Episode 1 of their podcast, The Rise And Fall Of Ruby Franke <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/meet-the-frankes/id1726465829?i=1000645636907">here.</a>
Stay up to date with the latest updates about the Ruby Franke case with Mamamia's news podcast <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/ruby-franke">The Quicky</a>.
Host: Gemma Bath
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Inside The Rise & Fall Of Ruby Franke

In May 1999, two detectives followed a trail of suspicious missing persons cases to an old, red-brick bank in Snowtown, South Australia. 

As they head inside, they head straight for the bank’s vault where they find six large plastic barrels containing human remains. They also find handcuffs, knives, a saw, boxes of disposable gloves and bottles of hydrochloric acid. 

They’d come to realise they'd found the dumping grounds of Australia’s worst serial killings, crimes that would see four men sent to prison with lengthy sentences. 

But now, 2 years later, two of these men could soon be eligible for release.

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Guest: Jeremy Pudney

You can find more info about his book Snowtown: The Bodies in Barrels Murders here.

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The story is not the first time we've covered the Snowtown Murders. Hear our past episode with Debi Marshall here.

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In May 1999, two detectives followed a trail of suspicious missing persons cases to an old, red-brick bank in Snowtown, South Australia. 
As they head inside, they head straight for the bank’s vault where they find six large plastic barrels containing human remains. They also find handcuffs, knives, a saw, boxes of disposable gloves and bottles of hydrochloric acid. 
They’d come to realise they'd found the dumping grounds of Australia’s worst serial killings, crimes that would see four men sent to prison with lengthy sentences. 
But now, 2 years later, two of these men could soon be eligible for release.
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Guest: Jeremy Pudney
You can find more info about his book Snowtown: The Bodies in Barrels Murders <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/sa/podcast/the-story-behind-snowtown/id1469153910?i=1000513440182">here</a>.
Host: Gemma Bath
Executive Producer: Gia Moylan
Audio Producer: Scott Stronach
The story is not the first time we've covered the Snowtown Murders. Hear our past episode with Debi Marshall <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/sa/podcast/the-story-behind-snowtown/id1469153910?i=1000513440182">here</a>.
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The News Snowtown Victims Families Have Been Dreading

In May 2016, police arrived at a farmhouse in Hillier, north of Adelaide. The scene that awaited them was horrifying beyond words. 

Stephen Graham Peet had just murdered three people. The bodies of his girlfriend, Adeline Yvette Rigney-Wilson, and her two young children were inside. 

But as his crimes unravelled in court, something became clear. Those two little kids shouldn’t have died. Their deaths, at least, were preventable. It was a series of failures from government agencies designed to protect them that actually, left them in the path of a killer.

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Guest: Sean Fewster

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Host: Gemma Bath

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Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

The story is not the first time we've covered systemic failures within domestic violence cases. If you found this episode interesting you might like to listen to one of these next:
The System That Failed Hannah Clarke
Six Deaths. One Uncomfortable Truth

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In May 2016, police arrived at a farmhouse in Hillier, north of Adelaide. The scene that awaited them was horrifying beyond words. 
Stephen Graham Peet had just murdered three people. The bodies of his girlfriend, Adeline Yvette Rigney-Wilson, and her two young children were inside. 
But as his crimes unravelled in court, something became clear. Those two little kids shouldn’t have died. Their deaths, at least, were preventable. It was a series of failures from government agencies designed to protect them that actually, left them in the path of a killer.
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Guest: Sean Fewster
You can listen to his podcast Just Lawful <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/006-just-lawful-s01e06-hillier-triple-murders-pt-1/id1561705332?i=1000519767686">here</a>.
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Audio Producer: Scott Stronach
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A Triple Murder And A Broken System

On September 12, 1996, Keli Lane gave birth to a baby girl at Auburn Hospital in western Sydney. Two days later that baby seemingly disappeared. 

After years of investigation, Keli was convicted of her daughter's murder in 2010 and sentenced to 18 years behind bars. But did they get it wrong?

Keli Lane’s story has been compared to the wrongful conviction of Lindy Chamberlain. It’s been pulled apart and analysed for years.  

So is she a baby killer? Or is she a woman, misunderstood.

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Guest: Xanthe Mallett

You can listen to her podcast Motive And Method here.

Host: Gemma Bath

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

On September 12, 1996, Keli Lane gave birth to a baby girl at Auburn Hospital in western Sydney. Two days later that baby seemingly disappeared. 
After years of investigation, Keli was convicted of her daughter's murder in 2010 and sentenced to 18 years behind bars. But did they get it wrong?
Keli Lane’s story has been compared to the wrongful conviction of Lindy Chamberlain. It’s been pulled apart and analysed for years.  
So is she a baby killer? Or is she a woman, misunderstood.
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Guest: Xanthe Mallett<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/meet-the-frankes/id1726465829?i=1000645636907"></a>
You can listen to her podcast Motive And Method <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/allison-langdon-on-the-keli-lane-case/id1676882162?i=1000650075432">here</a>.
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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