Kathleen Pettingill had ten children. All of them are either incarcerated, in witness protection, or dead. So, how did Kathleen become the head of one of the most prolific and violent crime families in modern Australian history?

Jessie speaks with author Adrian Tame about the life and crimes of Kathleen Pettingill - a woman who throughout his years profiling her he has come to count as a friend.

You can buy Adrian Tame’s book The Matriarch online and at all good book stores.

CREDITS

GUEST: Adrian Tame

HOST: Jessie Stephens

RESEARCH

The Matriarch by Adrian Tame

Australian Families Of Crime | Mother of Evil: Kath Pettingill 

National Nine News, 12 October 1998. National Film Sound Archive title: 51653. Courtesy: Nine Network.

Suburban Gangsters: Stewart Regan and Dennis Allen - The Psychos, Nine Network

Police Under Fire: The Walsh Street Killings Seven Network

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Kathleen Pettingill had ten children. All of them are either incarcerated, in witness protection, or dead.&nbsp;So, how did Kathleen become the head of one of the most prolific and violent crime families in modern Australian history?
Jessie speaks with author Adrian Tame about the life and crimes of Kathleen Pettingill - a woman who throughout his years profiling her he has come to count as a friend.
You can buy Adrian Tame&rsquo;s book The Matriarch <a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-matriarch-adrian-tame/book/9781760852191.html?source=pla&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx4GB_cu14wIVgR0rCh3m3QiAEAQYASABEgITCvD_BwE">online</a> and at all good book stores.
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GUEST: <a href="https://www.cameronsmanagement.com.au/adrian-tame">Adrian Tame</a>
HOST:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/jessiestephens90/?hl=en"> Jessie Stephens</a>
RESEARCH
<a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-matriarch-adrian-tame/book/9781760852191.html">The Matriarch</a> by Adrian Tame
Australian Families Of Crime | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWFHUmgO2o0">Mother of Evil: Kath Pettingill</a>&nbsp;
National Nine News, 12 October 1998. <a href="https://www.nfsa.gov.au/latest/newscaf-walsh-street-police-shootings">National Film Sound Archive title: 51653.</a> Courtesy: Nine Network.
<a href="https://www.9now.com.au/suburban-gangsters/season-1/episode-1">Suburban Gangsters: </a>Stewart Regan and Dennis Allen - The Psychos, Nine Network
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wZuee7OtiE&amp;t=2171s">Police Under Fire: The Walsh Street Killings</a> Seven Network
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Granny Evil: Australia's Most Infamous Matriarch

In March 2015, Fiona Lu showed up at her son Mike Zhao-Beckenridge's school to pick him up, only to find he was missing. Panicked, she called the police, convinced that her ex-husband John Beckenridge, whom Mike adored, had taken him.

By the time the authorities stepped in, John and Mike were already on the run. Days later, John’s car was discovered at the bottom of a cliff, but there was no sign of either of them.

Journalist Michael Wright, co-host of The Lost Boy podcast, explores two possibilities: either Mike and John died in March 2015, or they’re still alive today.

You can listen to the Stuff podcast The Lost Boy here. 

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In March 2015, Fiona Lu showed up at her son Mike Zhao-Beckenridge's school to pick him up, only to find he was missing. Panicked, she called the police, convinced that her ex-husband John Beckenridge, whom Mike adored, had taken him.
By the time the authorities stepped in, John and Mike were already on the run. Days later, John’s car was discovered at the bottom of a cliff, but there was no sign of either of them.
Journalist Michael Wright, co-host of The Lost Boy podcast, explores two possibilities: either Mike and John died in March 2015, or they’re still alive today.
You can listen to the <a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/">Stuff</a> podcast The Lost Boy <a href="https://listen.stuff.co.nz/thelostboy">here</a>. 
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'I'm Confident My Son Is Still Alive': The Case Of The Lost Boy

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In December 2010, the body of 24-year-old Phoebe Handsjuk was discovered at the bottom of a garbage chute in her Melbourne apartment building.

She had fallen 12 stories into a wheelie bin, where she ultimately succumbed to the injuries she sustained alone in the darkness of the rubbish room.

In 2013, a coroner ruled Phoebe’s death as accidental, a finding her family doesn't accept.

Investigative journalist Richard Baker, host of the podcast Phoebe's Fall, believes there’s more to the story. Was Phoebe’s death truly a tragic accident, or was she the victim of foul play?

You can listen to Richard's podcast with The Age 'Phoebe's Fall' here. 

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In December 2010, the body of 24-year-old Phoebe Handsjuk was discovered at the bottom of a garbage chute in her Melbourne apartment building. She had fallen 12 stories into a wheelie bin, where she ultimately succumbed to the injuries she sustained alone in the darkness of the rubbish room. In 2013, a coroner ruled Phoebe’s death as accidental, a finding her family doesn't accept. Investigative journalist Richard Baker, host of the podcast Phoebe's Fall, believes there’s more to the story. Was Phoebe’s death truly a tragic accident, or was she the victim of foul play?
You can listen to Richard's podcast with The Age 'Phoebe's Fall' <a href="https://podcasts.theage.com.au/podcasts/phoebes-fall/">here</a>. 
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Host: Gemma Bath
Producer: Tahli Blackman
Audio Producer: Thom Lion
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Something Is Not Right About Phoebe's Fall

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There's a serial killer on the loose in Byron Bay... allegedly.

People are starting to connect the dots between multiple cases of women going missing or being murdered in the Byron and New South Wales coastal areas, including women with their own first-hand encounters.

So how likely is it all these cases and run ins are linked? And what's the underlying lesson we can all take away from these experiences? 

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Gemma Bath, Mamamia's News Editor & Host of True Crime Conversations

Executive Producer: Taylah Strano 

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler 

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Extra: Is There Really A Serial Killer In Byron Bay?

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Granny Evil: Australia's Most Infamous Matriarch

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