Waz and Nic love to hear stories from guests on the podcast. From marketing gurus to mental health advocates, finance whizzes to neurosurgeons. There's been hundreds of guests here over the years. One thing that doesn't happen all that often is hearing Waz and Nic be interviewed themselves! Recently, Waz was invited to be a guest on the TradeMutt podcast - 120 Grit. Dan and Ed from TradeMutt have built a business around their very unique workwear, but their mission is to start conversations and change the way we view mental health, especially in the trades. They boys got Waz on the other side of the mixing desk recently so we thought we'd share it with you here on Tradies In Business as well. Waz talks about his own journey, his relationship with his dad, experiences in business, with failure and what drives him to work with Nicole Cox here at Tradies In Business.