If a rattlesnake bites me, will I die?

If a rattlesnake bites me, will I die?

Yeah? About one chance in the US, so it would be good.

Yeah? About one chance in the US, so it would be good.

I should be good. How long do I have to do? I need to get medical attention.

I should be good. How long do I have to do? I need to get medical attention.

You should.

You should.

Tasha Tosh Show, Welcome to Toss Show. Happy belated birthday to me, to Eddie, thank you to Pete. All three of us had our birthday this past week. Now. Pete had a big fancy party in Beverly Hills. Tons of people showed up, who's who of who gives the fuck? And then Eddie did the proper thing. I just just didn't bring it up at all.

Tasha Tosh Show, Welcome to Toss Show. Happy belated birthday to me, to Eddie, thank you to Pete. All three of us had our birthday this past week. Now. Pete had a big fancy party in Beverly Hills. Tons of people showed up, who's who of who gives the fuck? And then Eddie did the proper thing. I just just didn't bring it up at all.

He just.

He just.

As soon as my birthday comes, I'm like, oh fuck, I forgot to say happy birthday to Eddie. That's how I know it's Eddie's birthday. Now for me, For what did I do for my birthday? I had a party from eleven to one lunchtime on a Wednesday. Rented out the BMX track up in came Rio. And if you've ever been to Camerio, it's it's It's where all the outlet stores are. So it's just a good day all around. We rent out the BMX track so that my son and I could race each other all day, well for two hours. It's really really it's a lot of fun. And invited some of his friends, made them all skip school, and they're preschool you know, really, there's no attendance. It's not like you're skipping anything important. And so I raced a bunch of five year olds. What's funny is one of the dads there, you know, he brought his bike and he raced too, and he's like, Oh, it's really selfless of you to have like a birthday party, but really make it for the kids. And I was like, yeah, I didn't. I wasn't doing this for myself, you maniac. My friend Danny was there. He's old as shit too, forty eight years old. He fell, got hurt, went off a jump, flew backwards off the back of the bike, landing on his back, and I just looked at him, like, what what do you doing? We're not supposed to be going hard. He was like, trying to set a new track record. I'm riding around like in this this retro BMX bike that has like beach cruiser tires on it and barely getting that thing in the air. But it's fun. Oh, it's a lot of fun. Now. Then my son he had one fall and then shortly after that he started screaming because he had to go go potty and he knew his penis was burning. And I'm like, oh, I've been there. No, but he, uh, you know, got some soap in it, probably the night before, and we didn't wash it out. That's on us, and so he had to go through that pain. It's kind of a rite of passage for children not to get soap in the eye of your dingling. And that stinks because then the next pe he knows that it's gonna hurt, so he's just in full breakdown mode before the pe gets there. Oh whatever. I was like, we'll get this taken care of. We had about three or four painful peas. Now he's back on track. The funny thing was when I dropped him off at preschool this morning, I was like, I was like, oh, I need to talk to one of his teachers, and she's like, oh, she's inside. I'll get her. I'm like, yeah, you know what, I'll just tell you. Then you tell her. So now it's I'm like, so, so, he got soap in his penis like a day and a half ago, and it burns a little bit when he peas, and so now when he has to go pee, he gets a little worked up thinking that it might hurt. But it doesn't hurt much at all anymore. It's done, and she's like, oh, she's just staring at me, like, okay, I'll pass that on. And then another their father was right there at drop off, and he overheard. He goes, oh, yeah, that's that's a tough one. You know, these are things that you do. I enjoy it though, just all the silliness of parenthood. It's like, yeah, well, speaking of speaking of snakes, Eddie, you don't like snakes? Do you don't like them? Are you afraid of them? Yep? Yeah, I'm afraid of them too, no interest, no interest in learning about them. I appreciate what they do for us, which I'm guessing is important for the whole ecosystem. But I have no idea what but today's guest, Oh, she she's like Steve Irwin. If Steve Irwin, we're still live and a woman and five two covered in tattoos, barely one hundred pounds. But the point is they both deal with dangerous animals. Enjoy psh yea my guest today is built quite the Instagram following by wrangling goddamn rattlesnakes all over the deserts of southern California. Please welcome Danielle aka High Desert Danny.

As soon as my birthday comes, I'm like, oh fuck, I forgot to say happy birthday to Eddie. That's how I know it's Eddie's birthday. Now for me, For what did I do for my birthday? I had a party from eleven to one lunchtime on a Wednesday. Rented out the BMX track up in came Rio. And if you've ever been to Camerio, it's it's It's where all the outlet stores are. So it's just a good day all around. We rent out the BMX track so that my son and I could race each other all day, well for two hours. It's really really it's a lot of fun. And invited some of his friends, made them all skip school, and they're preschool you know, really, there's no attendance. It's not like you're skipping anything important. And so I raced a bunch of five year olds. What's funny is one of the dads there, you know, he brought his bike and he raced too, and he's like, Oh, it's really selfless of you to have like a birthday party, but really make it for the kids. And I was like, yeah, I didn't. I wasn't doing this for myself, you maniac. My friend Danny was there. He's old as shit too, forty eight years old. He fell, got hurt, went off a jump, flew backwards off the back of the bike, landing on his back, and I just looked at him, like, what what do you doing? We're not supposed to be going hard. He was like, trying to set a new track record. I'm riding around like in this this retro BMX bike that has like beach cruiser tires on it and barely getting that thing in the air. But it's fun. Oh, it's a lot of fun. Now. Then my son he had one fall and then shortly after that he started screaming because he had to go go potty and he knew his penis was burning. And I'm like, oh, I've been there. No, but he, uh, you know, got some soap in it, probably the night before, and we didn't wash it out. That's on us, and so he had to go through that pain. It's kind of a rite of passage for children not to get soap in the eye of your dingling. And that stinks because then the next pe he knows that it's gonna hurt, so he's just in full breakdown mode before the pe gets there. Oh whatever. I was like, we'll get this taken care of. We had about three or four painful peas. Now he's back on track. The funny thing was when I dropped him off at preschool this morning, I was like, I was like, oh, I need to talk to one of his teachers, and she's like, oh, she's inside. I'll get her. I'm like, yeah, you know what, I'll just tell you. Then you tell her. So now it's I'm like, so, so, he got soap in his penis like a day and a half ago, and it burns a little bit when he peas, and so now when he has to go pee, he gets a little worked up thinking that it might hurt. But it doesn't hurt much at all anymore. It's done, and she's like, oh, she's just staring at me, like, okay, I'll pass that on. And then another their father was right there at drop off, and he overheard. He goes, oh, yeah, that's that's a tough one. You know, these are things that you do. I enjoy it though, just all the silliness of parenthood. It's like, yeah, well, speaking of speaking of snakes, Eddie, you don't like snakes? Do you don't like them? Are you afraid of them? Yep? Yeah, I'm afraid of them too, no interest, no interest in learning about them. I appreciate what they do for us, which I'm guessing is important for the whole ecosystem. But I have no idea what but today's guest, Oh, she she's like Steve Irwin. If Steve Irwin, we're still live and a woman and five two covered in tattoos, barely one hundred pounds. But the point is they both deal with dangerous animals. Enjoy psh yea my guest today is built quite the Instagram following by wrangling goddamn rattlesnakes all over the deserts of southern California. Please welcome Danielle aka High Desert Danny.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for having me.

Do you want me to call you Danielle? Do you want me to call you Danny, Danielle, Danielle.

Do you want me to call you Danielle? Do you want me to call you Danny, Danielle, Danielle.

I know, I literally pronounced my own name wrong, but it's Danielle. But everyone's like Danielle. I'm like, you say it like Danielle, say like Danielle, like.

I know, I literally pronounced my own name wrong, but it's Danielle. But everyone's like Danielle. I'm like, you say it like Danielle, say like Danielle, like.

French almost Danielle. What about Danielle? You like Daniella or No.

French almost Danielle. What about Danielle? You like Daniella or No.

I was supposed to be Daniella, and then my mom wanted us to have more white names instead of that's what I heard.

I was supposed to be Daniella, and then my mom wanted us to have more white names instead of that's what I heard.

I was supposed to be white.

I was supposed to be white.

Because like, you know, her last name is Pantanita Italian and like, yeah, the spelling and all of that, and she's like, no, it is Danielle.

Because like, you know, her last name is Pantanita Italian and like, yeah, the spelling and all of that, and she's like, no, it is Danielle.

Wall You're are you pure one hundred percent Italian?

Wall You're are you pure one hundred percent Italian?

No, just my mom. She's the Italian one full Italian. But my dad's whitey Ah, he.

No, just my mom. She's the Italian one full Italian. But my dad's whitey Ah, he.

Must appreciate all the ink.

Must appreciate all the ink.

Oh, he absolutely azing.

Oh, he absolutely azing.

Oh I don't think I think he's probably he was my biggest hater, biggest hater tattoos.

Oh I don't think I think he's probably he was my biggest hater, biggest hater tattoos.

Yeah, now classic dads.

Yeah, now classic dads.

That's good. So you have a relationship with your.

That's good. So you have a relationship with your.

Father, Oh yeah, I mean I had a kid, you know, and said, suck it up, dad.

Father, Oh yeah, I mean I had a kid, you know, and said, suck it up, dad.

That's nice. Okay, because you see a lot of tattoos, some people might think, oh, she probably doesn't know who father is. But you're saying it's right there, I got it, he's around. Do you believe in ghost.

That's nice. Okay, because you see a lot of tattoos, some people might think, oh, she probably doesn't know who father is. But you're saying it's right there, I got it, he's around. Do you believe in ghost.

Danielle, Yes, I actually believe my house is haunted by my great grandmother.

Danielle, Yes, I actually believe my house is haunted by my great grandmother.

Did your great grandmother ever live in this house?

Did your great grandmother ever live in this house?

Yes?

Yes?

And my grandma, and we've had two grandmas pass away in that house.

And my grandma, and we've had two grandmas pass away in that house.

I've heard things, seen things.

I've heard things, seen things.

Where I was a skeptic, until you see things and hear things, you cannot.

Where I was a skeptic, until you see things and hear things, you cannot.

Explain, Well, what did you see?

Explain, Well, what did you see?

I have seen like the shadowy figure go through the house multiple times.

I have seen like the shadowy figure go through the house multiple times.

A shadow the figure itself.

A shadow the figure itself.

No, but I've had like a remote fly across the room, a remote control for like a TV.

No, but I've had like a remote fly across the room, a remote control for like a TV.

I mean, I feel like this is the hard evidence I was looking for.

I mean, I feel like this is the hard evidence I was looking for.

My name has been called once and I realized I was in the house by myself. But I responded, I was like yeah, and then I frozed.

My name has been called once and I realized I was in the house by myself. But I responded, I was like yeah, and then I frozed.

I've done that though, maybe I half fell asleep and you just.

I've done that though, maybe I half fell asleep and you just.

Like was vacuuming.

Like was vacuuming.

Oh, you vacuum in your sleep all the time.

Oh, you vacuum in your sleep all the time.

It's the only time I can get things done.

It's the only time I can get things done.

You live out in Joshua Tree.

You live out in Joshua Tree.

Lander's proper, but it's all you know, high desert. Yeah.

Lander's proper, but it's all you know, high desert. Yeah.

Do you enjoy that world out there?

Do you enjoy that world out there?

I love it so much.

I love it so much.

I grew up in the Bay Area, and I will take the desolate desert away from people any day.

I grew up in the Bay Area, and I will take the desolate desert away from people any day.

Why is that any day?

Why is that any day?

What do you mean? It took me four hours to get here with this La traffic.

What do you mean? It took me four hours to get here with this La traffic.

It was insane, right, But if you're here, you don't have to go four hours.

It was insane, right, But if you're here, you don't have to go four hours.

Yeah, oh I was getting here. There you go. Only you got me here, Tash, only you.

Yeah, oh I was getting here. There you go. Only you got me here, Tash, only you.

It's very nice.

It's very nice.

And Tony Danza, I came here a few months ago because mister Tony Danza my heart hold on, give.

And Tony Danza, I came here a few months ago because mister Tony Danza my heart hold on, give.

Me a second.

Me a second.

And he was supposed to play Pump Spranks, but his show got canceled.

And he was supposed to play Pump Spranks, but his show got canceled.

He played jazz and he does comedy. Get brilliant.

He played jazz and he does comedy. Get brilliant.

No, he does not have comedy.

No, he does not have comedy.

He is a whole like to stand up that he's beautiful, saying he's so just his whole personalities. You gotta hit up Tony man. It was one of the best shows. I was the youngest one in the entire.

He is a whole like to stand up that he's beautiful, saying he's so just his whole personalities. You gotta hit up Tony man. It was one of the best shows. I was the youngest one in the entire.

Room by what by fifty years a lot.

Room by what by fifty years a lot.

And I was wearing the skimpiest low cut dress I could. I dressed to the knives and and I, oh man, it was the spies.

And I was wearing the skimpiest low cut dress I could. I dressed to the knives and and I, oh man, it was the spies.

I got a picture with him and a smoochie on the cheek. It was a great that's a salt?

I got a picture with him and a smoochie on the cheek. It was a great that's a salt?

Did you? Did you know?

Did you? Did you know?

I kissed him? He could be it was, yeah, you assaulted, Tony? I did.

I kissed him? He could be it was, yeah, you assaulted, Tony? I did.

Are you married?

Are you married?

No?

No?

But I've been married twice. Really, I know the men keep proposing.

But I've been married twice. Really, I know the men keep proposing.

I just turned thirty, congratulations, think you does that feel like a milestone or no?

I just turned thirty, congratulations, think you does that feel like a milestone or no?

You know, I still feel just like an eighty year old on the inside, just like like living to go to bed and staying at home watching the Golden Girules.

You know, I still feel just like an eighty year old on the inside, just like like living to go to bed and staying at home watching the Golden Girules.

You know, I feel like I'm interviewing a character that Amy said, Daris is doing. When did you? When did you move down here?

You know, I feel like I'm interviewing a character that Amy said, Daris is doing. When did you? When did you move down here?

Twy fifteen going on nine years now?

Twy fifteen going on nine years now?

This is home forever.

This is home forever.

Oh yeah, especially since I bought my great grandparents' house.

Oh yeah, especially since I bought my great grandparents' house.

So that was the reason that you moved down here with.

So that was the reason that you moved down here with.

My grandpa is still in Yuckle Valley, same area. He's eighty three golfs four days a week, you know, even in the summer. Oh yeah, no, itics how to catch snakes. He comes to all my educational things with me. And my grandma was around when I first moved down, but she passed away.

My grandpa is still in Yuckle Valley, same area. He's eighty three golfs four days a week, you know, even in the summer. Oh yeah, no, itics how to catch snakes. He comes to all my educational things with me. And my grandma was around when I first moved down, but she passed away.

I'm sorry, life, you dropped out of college to pursue your current am I calling it a profession? It's your profession, yeah.

I'm sorry, life, you dropped out of college to pursue your current am I calling it a profession? It's your profession, yeah.

Because I do the relocation for the snakes for free as a volunteer for the community. But I do I do like TV and film production. If there's ever a snake wrangler on set. You know, people film out here in the desert and I'm just precautionary.

Because I do the relocation for the snakes for free as a volunteer for the community. But I do I do like TV and film production. If there's ever a snake wrangler on set. You know, people film out here in the desert and I'm just precautionary.

And I do education.

And I do education.

I go to the schools, I teach people how to catch them and just you know, wildlife conservation. So I make money on snaw That is my full time work.

I go to the schools, I teach people how to catch them and just you know, wildlife conservation. So I make money on snaw That is my full time work.

Are you're a snake expert, then.

Are you're a snake expert, then.

I'm a rattlesnake relocation expert so to speak.

I'm a rattlesnake relocation expert so to speak.

How often are you relocating a rattlesnake?

How often are you relocating a rattlesnake?

Oh? Every day.

Oh? Every day.

I was literally still in the desert moving a rattlesnake past eleven o'clock last night.

I was literally still in the desert moving a rattlesnake past eleven o'clock last night.

When you relocate a snake, how far are you relocating it or its relocating? Just code from a chopp its head off as soon as they get out in.

When you relocate a snake, how far are you relocating it or its relocating? Just code from a chopp its head off as soon as they get out in.

Oh, absolutely not.

Oh, absolutely not.

I mean, that's that's why I started doing it, because animal control does kill them, and like they do, the state doesn't protect this apex predator.

I mean, that's that's why I started doing it, because animal control does kill them, and like they do, the state doesn't protect this apex predator.

So I said, if I have to do this for free, I'll do it for free. I don't care. It's essentially a.

So I said, if I have to do this for free, I'll do it for free. I don't care. It's essentially a.

Half mile past the last occupied property, but ideally no more than two miles for their survival. Raakes, rattlesnakes don't move as much as people think so in the desert.

Half mile past the last occupied property, but ideally no more than two miles for their survival. Raakes, rattlesnakes don't move as much as people think so in the desert.

So you don't bring them to the same spot and just don't know.

So you don't bring them to the same spot and just don't know.

They're all within essentially like a two mile circle somewhere in equal terrain.

They're all within essentially like a two mile circle somewhere in equal terrain.

What's the largest rattlesnake you've ever had to relocate?

What's the largest rattlesnake you've ever had to relocate?

It was about five foot Even I.

It was about five foot Even I.

Don't know how big a rattlesnakes get yeth for us out here.

Don't know how big a rattlesnakes get yeth for us out here.

I mean, it would be pretty rare to see a rattlesnake over five feet in California. It's those are like the goliaths. But you know Texas, you'll you'll get six footers. East coast, you'll get eight footers.

I mean, it would be pretty rare to see a rattlesnake over five feet in California. It's those are like the goliaths. But you know Texas, you'll you'll get six footers. East coast, you'll get eight footers.

I've never liked snakes, and I don't think I'm ever going to like them. I'm an animal lover, but there's a lot of animals I'm like, eh, I could do without that animal.

I've never liked snakes, and I don't think I'm ever going to like them. I'm an animal lover, but there's a lot of animals I'm like, eh, I could do without that animal.

So it's my goats.

So it's my goats.

But I always say I'm not trying to convince people to like them, just like respect what they need to do on the planet.

But I always say I'm not trying to convince people to like them, just like respect what they need to do on the planet.

But rattlesnakes don't do anything good for the environment.

But rattlesnakes don't do anything good for the environment.

Oh.

Oh.

Absolutely. Rodent control man, yeah, I mean after all the road.

Absolutely. Rodent control man, yeah, I mean after all the road.

Yeah, like the rodent poisons though, you know, killed off a lot of birds of prey and a lot of apex predators and so we got.

Yeah, like the rodent poisons though, you know, killed off a lot of birds of prey and a lot of apex predators and so we got.

Wait, how can apex predator be killed rat poison?

Wait, how can apex predator be killed rat poison?

Of the poisons in the rat the owl apex anymore? Like literally they're like explode.

Of the poisons in the rat the owl apex anymore? Like literally they're like explode.

It's like with the owls explode.

It's like with the owls explode.

Like the animals that have the rodent poison in them, and it like creates all this bleeding.

Like the animals that have the rodent poison in them, and it like creates all this bleeding.

It's it's really gnarly way to go.

It's it's really gnarly way to go.

Here's the thing. I'm gonna tell you something. I put an owl box up in my property so that the owls could kill the rodents. But they don't do a good enough job.

Here's the thing. I'm gonna tell you something. I put an owl box up in my property so that the owls could kill the rodents. But they don't do a good enough job.

Beca's just not enough.

Beca's just not enough.

The rodent populations in the last like twenty years, you know, they're going like this while all of our you know, their predators are going like this because people keep killing them, all right, and you know the snakes you know, obviously don't eat as much as the birds do. So yeah, the owls and like the hawks, the hawks taking a big hit from like the decades worth of rodent poison. And it's been outlawed in California now, but it's still like the coagulatory one that's bitching though about.

The rodent populations in the last like twenty years, you know, they're going like this while all of our you know, their predators are going like this because people keep killing them, all right, and you know the snakes you know, obviously don't eat as much as the birds do. So yeah, the owls and like the hawks, the hawks taking a big hit from like the decades worth of rodent poison. And it's been outlawed in California now, but it's still like the coagulatory one that's bitching though about.

The owl box.

The owl box.

I tell people, like they ask me all the time, how can I prevent snakes? Like you got to prevent the rats, Like, you know, you don't have a snake problem, you got wrap problem. Put an owl box up, and you know this, the owls will eat the snakes too, So the owl the snakes don't want to stick around an owl either.

I tell people, like they ask me all the time, how can I prevent snakes? Like you got to prevent the rats, Like, you know, you don't have a snake problem, you got wrap problem. Put an owl box up, and you know this, the owls will eat the snakes too, So the owl the snakes don't want to stick around an owl either.

I got a canyon in my back My property backs against and I've got a lot of tall grass that my kids play.

I got a canyon in my back My property backs against and I've got a lot of tall grass that my kids play.

In, So you have a snake caven is what I hear?

In, So you have a snake caven is what I hear?

Is that?

Is that?

So I should just be terrified every time.

So I should just be terrified every time.

The tall grasses.

The tall grasses.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I tell that to people all the time, like even when the kids are like hiking up in the rocks and stuff like that, Like you they are there.

I tell that to people all the time, like even when the kids are like hiking up in the rocks and stuff like that, Like you they are there.

I have the snake in my two snakes.

I have the snake in my two snakes.

I don't want your snakes out.

I don't want your snakes out.

Oh, but I can show you the one that to look out for. That that's down here.

Oh, but I can show you the one that to look out for. That that's down here.

You brought a rattlesnake, I did Dan.

You brought a rattlesnake, I did Dan.

His name is Warf.

His name is Warf.

Is he a therapy snake?

Is he a therapy snake?

No?

No?

But they're all my emotional supporting animal.

But they're all my emotional supporting animal.

Uh huh. I'm not afraid to admit how how terrified I am of snakes. Oh yeah, you know why I'm snakes. It's not my fault.

Uh huh. I'm not afraid to admit how how terrified I am of snakes. Oh yeah, you know why I'm snakes. It's not my fault.

It's not.

It's not.

It's primal, right, the the Bible did it to us.

It's primal, right, the the Bible did it to us.

Yeah, damn Bibles. But it's your nervous system to like have a reaction when you see a snake.

Yeah, damn Bibles. But it's your nervous system to like have a reaction when you see a snake.

You see you see a dog's face and you want to get your face right in there.

You see you see a dog's face and you want to get your face right in there.

And just raw. But have you seen a baby rattlesnake? The same thing, just you put your face in a baby. But you Oh, I love them now, yeah, like you don't as a pet.

And just raw. But have you seen a baby rattlesnake? The same thing, just you put your face in a baby. But you Oh, I love them now, yeah, like you don't as a pet.

You have you see my stuff online? I've seen some of it, Like, yeah, I got the rattlesnake crawling up me.

You have you see my stuff online? I've seen some of it, Like, yeah, I got the rattlesnake crawling up me.

I get and you enjoy that.

I get and you enjoy that.

I like the thrill, and I like to show that these aren't like the insane creatures that people think they are.

I like the thrill, and I like to show that these aren't like the insane creatures that people think they are.

Is it safe, Absolutely not. But it's not like you know, I thought you.

Is it safe, Absolutely not. But it's not like you know, I thought you.

Were gonna say it was safe. No, they don't love you.

Were gonna say it was safe. No, they don't love you.

But you know, driving to LA in one day is statistically more deadly than me holding a rattlesnakes What.

But you know, driving to LA in one day is statistically more deadly than me holding a rattlesnakes What.

About forget deadly? But just like getting the willies?

About forget deadly? But just like getting the willies?

Like it. After three years, I stopped getting any willies. So over the years I've gotten better at not being afraid of heights and my claustrophobia and because I like will crawl under houses I've been in.

Like it. After three years, I stopped getting any willies. So over the years I've gotten better at not being afraid of heights and my claustrophobia and because I like will crawl under houses I've been in.

You have claustrophobia.

You have claustrophobia.

Oh yeah, Like in the beginning, I was like, okay, well I got to get a snake at the other end of this manufactured home and I'm crawling, you know, with no room above me, and I'm freaking out more about being underneath the house in a very enclosed space with spiders everywhere, rats.

Oh yeah, Like in the beginning, I was like, okay, well I got to get a snake at the other end of this manufactured home and I'm crawling, you know, with no room above me, and I'm freaking out more about being underneath the house in a very enclosed space with spiders everywhere, rats.

Where, rats bother you no all give me the willies.

Where, rats bother you no all give me the willies.

I mean in that time, like it was just the claus phobia part, but I just focused on the snake.

I mean in that time, like it was just the claus phobia part, but I just focused on the snake.

I'm like, you got this. You can't panic. You're the snake wrangle, you got you a tough bitch.

I'm like, you got this. You can't panic. You're the snake wrangle, you got you a tough bitch.

You don't have you know you don't have.

You don't have you know you don't have.

Someone's got it, Daniel.

Someone's got it, Daniel.

How do you catch them? Use a flute?

How do you catch them? Use a flute?

Yes, a clarinet actually, actually I do. I play the clarinet since I was eight.

Yes, a clarinet actually, actually I do. I play the clarinet since I was eight.

Yeah, deal, I know. I got my my beetles like score book is.

Yeah, deal, I know. I got my my beetles like score book is.

My beatlescart j I remember him, yeah, exactly.

My beatlescart j I remember him, yeah, exactly.

But I just mainly I use like a hook essentially, just like scoop.

But I just mainly I use like a hook essentially, just like scoop.

How long is the hook?

How long is the hook?

Two feet?

Two feet?

Well? Why is it too? Why when I get on this four feet?

Well? Why is it too? Why when I get on this four feet?

I started at four feet? But the longer it is like you have a delay and you know the tip of that hook and all of that. So like the shorter it is, it's just faster.

I started at four feet? But the longer it is like you have a delay and you know the tip of that hook and all of that. So like the shorter it is, it's just faster.

That's that's what I tell my wife.

That's that's what I tell my wife.

You see winning all around.

You see winning all around.

Were you ever afraid of snakes?

Were you ever afraid of snakes?

Oh? Yeah, I said, I faked it till I became it. In the beginning, I knew I wanted to help the animal, but I was from the city. I had never seen a rattlesnake, and I saw one on the road and I poked it with a stick and it like just took off, And I'm like, wellll are going to be men, do we?

Oh? Yeah, I said, I faked it till I became it. In the beginning, I knew I wanted to help the animal, but I was from the city. I had never seen a rattlesnake, and I saw one on the road and I poked it with a stick and it like just took off, And I'm like, wellll are going to be men, do we?

What are you supposed to do? How are you supposed to You're supposed to use a hook? But if you don't have a hook, would you grab your bare hand on one?

What are you supposed to do? How are you supposed to You're supposed to use a hook? But if you don't have a hook, would you grab your bare hand on one?

I have many times?

I have many times?

But now am I supposed to grab the tail of one?

But now am I supposed to grab the tail of one?

Ideally?

Ideally?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Like you know, I really don't grab it at all.

Like you know, I really don't grab it at all.

But like what if my kid's right there and he's like like he looks like he's in attack mode?

But like what if my kid's right there and he's like like he looks like he's in attack mode?

Yeah, I mean, realistically, you'd be easier, like you grab the kid away from the snake, because like the chance of you actually grabbing the head where you need to and not being bit in. I mean, you're ninety nine percent of the time you're gonna get.

Yeah, I mean, realistically, you'd be easier, like you grab the kid away from the snake, because like the chance of you actually grabbing the head where you need to and not being bit in. I mean, you're ninety nine percent of the time you're gonna get.

Grab a tail and do that, throw it or do a dive in front of it that seems heroically very you ever just throw it over a neighbor's fences like your problem? Now? No?

Grab a tail and do that, throw it or do a dive in front of it that seems heroically very you ever just throw it over a neighbor's fences like your problem? Now? No?

I get that joke a lot, though. Can you put this snake in someone's mailbox? Which funny enough? I mean funny enough someone I don't know if you saw it but in twenty nine palms out past Joshua Tree, someone was mailed a live rattlesnake male mail that came in the mail and he got one at his Florida address to they don't.

I get that joke a lot, though. Can you put this snake in someone's mailbox? Which funny enough? I mean funny enough someone I don't know if you saw it but in twenty nine palms out past Joshua Tree, someone was mailed a live rattlesnake male mail that came in the mail and he got one at his Florida address to they don't.

Know what a dick? What did this guy do?

Know what a dick? What did this guy do?

I'm really eager to find out, like who gets sent a live rattlesnake like that?

I'm really eager to find out, like who gets sent a live rattlesnake like that?

And who what company will ship a rattle snake? But also a testament to the company for getting that there as promised within twenty.

And who what company will ship a rattle snake? But also a testament to the company for getting that there as promised within twenty.

Four hours it was alive.

Four hours it was alive.

If a rattlesnake bites me, will I die?

If a rattlesnake bites me, will I die?

Yeah?

Yeah?

About one percent chance in the US. So it should be good.

About one percent chance in the US. So it should be good.

I should be good. How long do I have to do? I need to get medical attention?

I should be good. How long do I have to do? I need to get medical attention?

You should?

You should?

I mean more people were bitten in like the southern California area near the coast, because there's a lot of terrain that you can't see under a lot of snakes. But realistically everyone is close close to a hospital, So you get to a hospital, the doctors are then how ideally just as quickly as you can.

I mean more people were bitten in like the southern California area near the coast, because there's a lot of terrain that you can't see under a lot of snakes. But realistically everyone is close close to a hospital, So you get to a hospital, the doctors are then how ideally just as quickly as you can.

The more time it's like like thirty minutes or an hour. What do I got?

The more time it's like like thirty minutes or an hour. What do I got?

I couldn't even tell if it's a baby rattlesnake where there's only one teeny drop of venom, you could have hours before you're suffering. But if you get a big ass rattlesnake and it chomps, anya, I mean you could be, you know, unconscious in thirty minutes potentially.

I couldn't even tell if it's a baby rattlesnake where there's only one teeny drop of venom, you could have hours before you're suffering. But if you get a big ass rattlesnake and it chomps, anya, I mean you could be, you know, unconscious in thirty minutes potentially.

What about my kid? What about like a baby gets like.

What about my kid? What about like a baby gets like.

The smaller the animal or child anything like the less weight to process the venom. Yeah, you'll go down faster, like I statistically would suffer harder than you would.

The smaller the animal or child anything like the less weight to process the venom. Yeah, you'll go down faster, like I statistically would suffer harder than you would.

Yeah, what do you weigh?

Yeah, what do you weigh?

Probably about hundred pounds, one hundred pounds all?

Probably about hundred pounds, one hundred pounds all?

Are you five? Two? Five to two hundred pounds?

Are you five? Two? Five to two hundred pounds?

Ye?

Ye?

You last thirty minutes getting bid by a big rattlesnake.

You last thirty minutes getting bid by a big rattlesnake.

Probably, But I'd be suffering to the point where, like I probably couldn't.

Probably, But I'd be suffering to the point where, like I probably couldn't.

Help myself any suffering.

Help myself any suffering.

Like what happens.

Like what happens.

Your hand's gonna blow up, Like it's just the swelling is gonna be really gnarly looking.

Your hand's gonna blow up, Like it's just the swelling is gonna be really gnarly looking.

The bite site's probably gonna start dying off a little. Some of the tissue. This swelling can go all the way up.

The bite site's probably gonna start dying off a little. Some of the tissue. This swelling can go all the way up.

Your nerves will be damaged, potentially perman sometimes depending on the snake. Yeah, I've never been bitten, So I'm not saying this You've never been rattle dude.

Your nerves will be damaged, potentially perman sometimes depending on the snake. Yeah, I've never been bitten, So I'm not saying this You've never been rattle dude.

I do have been doing this for six years. The easiest should have ever done.

I do have been doing this for six years. The easiest should have ever done.

It's better than eaties on the bartending, easier than tutoring children when I did that through the school district.

It's better than eaties on the bartending, easier than tutoring children when I did that through the school district.

Snakes are so easy.

Snakes are so easy.

How would how long would Carl survive if he got bit? How long?

How would how long would Carl survive if he got bit? How long?

I mean he's a slightly bigger dog. You did a lot of dogs over fifty pounds with the standard sized snakes only forty forty five, I mean still fifty fifty to fifty.

I mean he's a slightly bigger dog. You did a lot of dogs over fifty pounds with the standard sized snakes only forty forty five, I mean still fifty fifty to fifty.

He makes it just depending on the size of the snake.

He makes it just depending on the size of the snake.

Like, do you take him somewhere to do it?

Like, do you take him somewhere to do it?

Yeah, yeah, it's vet.

Yeah, yeah, it's vet.

I shouldn't suck on it at all and spit. That's not a thing. No, sucking and spitting is not a thing on.

I shouldn't suck on it at all and spit. That's not a thing. No, sucking and spitting is not a thing on.

Any snake venom, not on that kind of snake.

Any snake venom, not on that kind of snake.

Because sometimes I see signs up at this one vet near my place that's like, get your anti vas rattlesnake for your dogs right now it's rattlesnake season. Is that that doesn't help?

Because sometimes I see signs up at this one vet near my place that's like, get your anti vas rattlesnake for your dogs right now it's rattlesnake season. Is that that doesn't help?

No, The venom doctors like across the US are pretty agreement that like it's not actually there's no actual true science behind that. It either helps it all doesn't really buy time. And there's been studies done about like anaphylactic shock and dogs after being bitten when that vaccine.

No, The venom doctors like across the US are pretty agreement that like it's not actually there's no actual true science behind that. It either helps it all doesn't really buy time. And there's been studies done about like anaphylactic shock and dogs after being bitten when that vaccine.

Is in them.

Is in them.

Okay, but you know, you see it where you know if they can make money off of things.

Okay, but you know, you see it where you know if they can make money off of things.

But I would say, do your research.

But I would say, do your research.

I don't do research, but.

I don't do research, but.

People do your research that I might do.

People do your research that I might do.

So how do you make money if you're not allowed to charge people for relocating these snakes? Yeah?

So how do you make money if you're not allowed to charge people for relocating these snakes? Yeah?

I mean I'm a donation based service, but I'm in the red every.

I mean I'm a donation based service, but I'm in the red every.

Year pocket Oh yeah, how much you going out of one?

Year pocket Oh yeah, how much you going out of one?

One year, I had to take out a personal loan for like six thousand to keep it going. And but I just, you know, it's just about the animals. So I've always kind of made it work. But I got lucky when I moved out to the desert. It was cheap and I bought a house and I sold it when COVID happened and prices skyrocketed, so I've had good opportunity.

One year, I had to take out a personal loan for like six thousand to keep it going. And but I just, you know, it's just about the animals. So I've always kind of made it work. But I got lucky when I moved out to the desert. It was cheap and I bought a house and I sold it when COVID happened and prices skyrocketed, so I've had good opportunity.

And then I was able to buy family property.

And then I was able to buy family property.

Did you know the prices we're gonna skyrocket during Now?

Did you know the prices we're gonna skyrocket during Now?

I was just excited that I thought the Zillo ads were fake. I'm like, one hundred thousand dollars for this house. There's no freaking way, and there was freaking way.

I was just excited that I thought the Zillo ads were fake. I'm like, one hundred thousand dollars for this house. There's no freaking way, and there was freaking way.

I know California has cheap real estate, you just got to know where to look.

I know California has cheap real estate, you just got to know where to look.

That was what got me to move down there from San Francisco.

That was what got me to move down there from San Francisco.

Yeah, Like I called my grandpa and I was like, Grandpa got six days before I got to renew my lease in the Sunset District in San Francisco, So I'm miserable.

Yeah, Like I called my grandpa and I was like, Grandpa got six days before I got to renew my lease in the Sunset District in San Francisco, So I'm miserable.

What's it like living down there? He said, cheap?

What's it like living down there? He said, cheap?

I'll see him six days. He was like, okay, believe that when I see it. And I sold everything and I.

I'll see him six days. He was like, okay, believe that when I see it. And I sold everything and I.

Just moved in.

Just moved in.

Could you tell me how much people will donate to you for removing these things?

Could you tell me how much people will donate to you for removing these things?

On average, twenty to forty books.

On average, twenty to forty books.

You know how much I would pay to get rid of rattlesnake from my yard. I'm not bullying.

You know how much I would pay to get rid of rattlesnake from my yard. I'm not bullying.

I'd love to charge, but then I will literally get those properties out there that I see on you know, Airbnb making ten grand a weekend and I get called for a snake and they don't even give you five bucks for gas, and then it's literally the people and dilapidated homes, trying to give me a fifty like literally a couple of days ago. This guy, I go there to his house and he has a couple like maybe eighty bucks in his hand.

I'd love to charge, but then I will literally get those properties out there that I see on you know, Airbnb making ten grand a weekend and I get called for a snake and they don't even give you five bucks for gas, and then it's literally the people and dilapidated homes, trying to give me a fifty like literally a couple of days ago. This guy, I go there to his house and he has a couple like maybe eighty bucks in his hand.

Fuck you know, because this is all I got.

Fuck you know, because this is all I got.

You know, what do you charge? I? Oh, I don't charge. Actually, I'm a donation based service for six years. YadA, YadA. He takes out one twenty, hands it to me and pockets the rest. And I mean, we're talking to guy's house, Daniel.

You know, what do you charge? I? Oh, I don't charge. Actually, I'm a donation based service for six years. YadA, YadA. He takes out one twenty, hands it to me and pockets the rest. And I mean, we're talking to guy's house, Daniel.

Why would he show you eighty dollars.

Why would he show you eighty dollars.

Because he thought I charged? He thought.

Because he thought I charged? He thought.

You don't need to see it. That's a weird thing to display.

You don't need to see it. That's a weird thing to display.

This guy's it happened.

This guy's it happened.

It happened, I believe you. I just think he's an idiot.

It happened, I believe you. I just think he's an idiot.

Had a wife locked her husband in the shed so I could come get it because he wanted to kill it.

Had a wife locked her husband in the shed so I could come get it because he wanted to kill it.

And she didn't want it to die.

And she didn't want it to die.

So she told me I go get this shovel and then locked him in the shed. I was very uncomfortable on that call. I'm not gonna lie, very very uncomfortable.

So she told me I go get this shovel and then locked him in the shed. I was very uncomfortable on that call. I'm not gonna lie, very very uncomfortable.

Am I allowed to kill a snake on my property?

Am I allowed to kill a snake on my property?

Legally?

Legally?

Yes, but for non venomous snakes you need a hunting license, fishing license technically, Daniel.

Yes, but for non venomous snakes you need a hunting license, fishing license technically, Daniel.

Why, I'll tell you why. I'd ask because I don't think I'm allowed to kill a coyote on my property.

Why, I'll tell you why. I'd ask because I don't think I'm allowed to kill a coyote on my property.

No, Like, you can't kill the coyotes.

No, Like, you can't kill the coyotes.

The hawks, like everything else has some sort of formal protection around it.

The hawks, like everything else has some sort of formal protection around it.

Trying to kill my pets pretty much, I'm.

Trying to kill my pets pretty much, I'm.

Not, and I'm like actually trying to. Like, when a snake and a dog interact, it's not because they really want to. You know, the snake's not ever attacking anyone. Well, yeah, hungry, Well he's not gonna eat your forty pounds.

Not, and I'm like actually trying to. Like, when a snake and a dog interact, it's not because they really want to. You know, the snake's not ever attacking anyone. Well, yeah, hungry, Well he's not gonna eat your forty pounds.

I get o. But I got a nine pound dog.

I get o. But I got a nine pound dog.

You know, unless you're in like floor chickens, pythons, I got chickens. Even my biggest native snake pantied a chicken in the desert.

You know, unless you're in like floor chickens, pythons, I got chickens. Even my biggest native snake pantied a chicken in the desert.

They don't get that big.

They don't get that big.

Here's the thing with like a coyote is they say you're allowed to kill them if they're going at like one of your your family, a human. So you just have to lie and say that he was he was charging me, and then plant a weapon on him or something like that. This is what I've learned. They also say, if you want to get rid of coyotes because I have them just in my property all the time. They say that you should kill one of them. This is what I was told. You should kill coyote and then hang it on your post, like on your fence. That's the only way that other coyotes won't come to the property is if there's a carcass of a coyote hanging there.

Here's the thing with like a coyote is they say you're allowed to kill them if they're going at like one of your your family, a human. So you just have to lie and say that he was he was charging me, and then plant a weapon on him or something like that. This is what I've learned. They also say, if you want to get rid of coyotes because I have them just in my property all the time. They say that you should kill one of them. This is what I was told. You should kill coyote and then hang it on your post, like on your fence. That's the only way that other coyotes won't come to the property is if there's a carcass of a coyote hanging there.

I feel like they would eat it. Wouldn't they just eat it.

I feel like they would eat it. Wouldn't they just eat it.

I don't have no idea. I'm not doing any of that.

I don't have no idea. I'm not doing any of that.

I feel like they would just eat it.

I feel like they would just eat it.

You don't else. I had my property one time, never only seen it one time, and I think he was crazy blackbir weasel, Oh a real, real a weasel, going crazy at my chickens, running up to their coops, standing up. Do you know that weasels kill because they enjoy killing. They don't even eat. They'll kill all your chickens and just pile them up, and they just enjoy it. He ran to my door, like my glass door, and was just standing there trying to get my house. Scary I did, though.

You don't else. I had my property one time, never only seen it one time, and I think he was crazy blackbir weasel, Oh a real, real a weasel, going crazy at my chickens, running up to their coops, standing up. Do you know that weasels kill because they enjoy killing. They don't even eat. They'll kill all your chickens and just pile them up, and they just enjoy it. He ran to my door, like my glass door, and was just standing there trying to get my house. Scary I did, though.

I got called for a snake once and his lady at a car parked and it had been there for a while. And she goes, oh, I dug a hole underneath the car, and I go, snakes don't ting holes. So I look under the car. It's a small car and there's a mount of dirt that goes all the way up underneath, like.

I got called for a snake once and his lady at a car parked and it had been there for a while. And she goes, oh, I dug a hole underneath the car, and I go, snakes don't ting holes. So I look under the car. It's a small car and there's a mount of dirt that goes all the way up underneath, like.

No, no, no, nothing.

No, no, no, nothing.

So I'm like, what the hell?

So I'm like, what the hell?

So I go on my truck, I get my shovel, I start. I'm like, I'm curious, what the hell dug this? And I see this little nose like something come up. I'm like, what is this? It was a freaking badger. I didn't even know they were out there, but yeah, I've heard that. You know if you get in their space.

So I go on my truck, I get my shovel, I start. I'm like, I'm curious, what the hell dug this? And I see this little nose like something come up. I'm like, what is this? It was a freaking badger. I didn't even know they were out there, but yeah, I've heard that. You know if you get in their space.

You know, though you were right in their space.

You know, though you were right in their space.

I was literally in its space, laying down next to it, and it looked at me, and I looked at it and I didn't even process what it was before my body like went hurtling out from under the car and I said, I can't deal with this.

I was literally in its space, laying down next to it, and it looked at me, and I looked at it and I didn't even process what it was before my body like went hurtling out from under the car and I said, I can't deal with this.

No, what if she was going to donate eighty dollars only she did out the twenty? What about you ever messed with that king Cobra? Oh no, I hear like.

No, what if she was going to donate eighty dollars only she did out the twenty? What about you ever messed with that king Cobra? Oh no, I hear like.

Cobra handlers tell me that like rattlesnakes are physically more difficult to handle than a cobra because the cobras can be so long and it's a lot more meat to deal with.

Cobra handlers tell me that like rattlesnakes are physically more difficult to handle than a cobra because the cobras can be so long and it's a lot more meat to deal with.

I just like they did a spitting thing that seems kind of.

I just like they did a spitting thing that seems kind of.

Curious, like ten feet.

Curious, like ten feet.

They're accurate to ten feet.

They're accurate to ten feet.

And it's like six to ten feet accuracy might even be longer. I gotta remember my Steve Irwin episode on the Spitting Pooper.

And it's like six to ten feet accuracy might even be longer. I gotta remember my Steve Irwin episode on the Spitting Pooper.

Have you ever been to a snake church? Mm?

Have you ever been to a snake church? Mm?

But isn't that the most insane ship you've ever seen?

But isn't that the most insane ship you've ever seen?

When they get bit I just love it.

When they get bit I just love it.

I hate to say sometime like karma is karma. You know you're gonna fling a venomous snake around your face? What do you think I'm not flinging the rattlesnake around me?

I hate to say sometime like karma is karma. You know you're gonna fling a venomous snake around your face? What do you think I'm not flinging the rattlesnake around me?

Well, it won't bite. If if, the if, the energy and God is for the most part true, I don't know what they do.

Well, it won't bite. If if, the if, the energy and God is for the most part true, I don't know what they do.

It's kind of like if a bear was holding you and you're terrified, You're not just gonna punch the bear in the face, because then the.

It's kind of like if a bear was holding you and you're terrified, You're not just gonna punch the bear in the face, because then the.

Bear might bears. No, I mean, i'd you know, the whole bear thing. I choose the bear. Yeah, I choose the bear I like.

Bear might bears. No, I mean, i'd you know, the whole bear thing. I choose the bear. Yeah, I choose the bear I like.

I like bear. That's the thing with bears, though, it's pretty simple with bears. Two types of bears. Uh, you know, California, you got your black bears, make a ton of noise, scream, they get they'll they'll go brown bear, Uh, play dead, pray you don't die, right, I don't know? Or is brown bear fight I don't grizzly grizzly? Yeah, right, there's no more grizzlies in California. I'm That's what I'm saying. There's only black bears in California. You could fight a black bear. You could fight a black bear. Run anyway. See, I thought it was simple with bears. But snakes, snakes, that's I think that's where my part of my fear is just not having uh the knowledge to know what's venomous, what's poisonous or not.

I like bear. That's the thing with bears, though, it's pretty simple with bears. Two types of bears. Uh, you know, California, you got your black bears, make a ton of noise, scream, they get they'll they'll go brown bear, Uh, play dead, pray you don't die, right, I don't know? Or is brown bear fight I don't grizzly grizzly? Yeah, right, there's no more grizzlies in California. I'm That's what I'm saying. There's only black bears in California. You could fight a black bear. You could fight a black bear. Run anyway. See, I thought it was simple with bears. But snakes, snakes, that's I think that's where my part of my fear is just not having uh the knowledge to know what's venomous, what's poisonous or not.

I mean, obviously the number one thing is does it have a rattle or not?

I mean, obviously the number one thing is does it have a rattle or not?

Okay, that that I could figure out there besides rattlesnakes, What do I need to worry about?

Okay, that that I could figure out there besides rattlesnakes, What do I need to worry about?

Oh, that's it. Just rattlesnakes.

Oh, that's it. Just rattlesnakes.

That's the only medically significant snake in California that would like truly send you to the hospital with needing like medical attention.

That's the only medically significant snake in California that would like truly send you to the hospital with needing like medical attention.

Really, that's it.

Really, that's it.

Huh Yeah, we're not only a lot of the other places where you know, Australia they got like the top ten venomous snakes all right there.

Huh Yeah, we're not only a lot of the other places where you know, Australia they got like the top ten venomous snakes all right there.

You ever go down to Australia, No, but I would love to. I don't love it that much.

You ever go down to Australia, No, but I would love to. I don't love it that much.

I just want to see the snakes.

I just want to see the snakes.

Well, yeah, I guess where's the weirdest place you've had to find? Like, where's the weirdest place somebody's called you and said, hey, there's a snake here everywhere inside the house.

Well, yeah, I guess where's the weirdest place you've had to find? Like, where's the weirdest place somebody's called you and said, hey, there's a snake here everywhere inside the house.

At two years.

At two years.

Ago, I had a rattlesnake in a kitchen and a bedroom. I've gotten to them. I mean in people's bathrooms, just everywhere on a property. You can imagine you ever found a snake and a toilet one one, but it didn't come out from the toilet. It w Yeah, it was in her bathroom and it's just when I got there it had happened to like be on the seat with part of it in toilet.

Ago, I had a rattlesnake in a kitchen and a bedroom. I've gotten to them. I mean in people's bathrooms, just everywhere on a property. You can imagine you ever found a snake and a toilet one one, but it didn't come out from the toilet. It w Yeah, it was in her bathroom and it's just when I got there it had happened to like be on the seat with part of it in toilet.

Do you ever cut the head off a trouser snake? That's right? You don't. You own a few properties managed, you're like your own little property manager. For some airbnbs, Yes, yay, I managed too for my friends. What's scarier, snakes or short term runners?

Do you ever cut the head off a trouser snake? That's right? You don't. You own a few properties managed, you're like your own little property manager. For some airbnbs, Yes, yay, I managed too for my friends. What's scarier, snakes or short term runners?

Short term runners?

Short term runners?

I ran an Airbnb at my little guest house for two years and Lord half Mercy never again.

I ran an Airbnb at my little guest house for two years and Lord half Mercy never again.

So they were on your property?

So they were on your property?

Yeah, uh huh so yeah, I'll never go back to that.

Yeah, uh huh so yeah, I'll never go back to that.

But I have a long term rental in one of my in my smaller house, so that also subsidizes a lot of my bills.

But I have a long term rental in one of my in my smaller house, so that also subsidizes a lot of my bills.

Joshua Tree, is it one of these towns where the locals can't afford to live there anymore because it's gotten so popular.

Joshua Tree, is it one of these towns where the locals can't afford to live there anymore because it's gotten so popular.

Yeah, in like the last three years, that's exactly what happened. And like the apartment I first rented before about my house was five hundred bucks. Now it's like fifteen hundred and still the same shitty little apartment. I've never been to josh Fall Airbnbs.

Yeah, in like the last three years, that's exactly what happened. And like the apartment I first rented before about my house was five hundred bucks. Now it's like fifteen hundred and still the same shitty little apartment. I've never been to josh Fall Airbnbs.

Well that's the thing I like. I like that there's a lot of beautiful places in calibern that I haven't been yet.

Well that's the thing I like. I like that there's a lot of beautiful places in calibern that I haven't been yet.

Close.

Close.

Well, I know I'm not in a hurry. I'll get there.

Well, I know I'm not in a hurry. I'll get there.

Yeah, Snake Wineling, I'm not going to do.

Yeah, Snake Wineling, I'm not going to do.

That real, No, I won't. We will talk about your pets, how many pets do you have, Oh.

That real, No, I won't. We will talk about your pets, how many pets do you have, Oh.

Lord, off the top of my head, thirty five, thirty thirty five, Okay, we're in there.

Lord, off the top of my head, thirty five, thirty thirty five, Okay, we're in there.

If you don't count the snails, I don't count snails.

If you don't count the snails, I don't count snails.

Yeah, I got a lot of those.

Yeah, I got a lot of those.

The problem I have with pets is that I get really attached and deaths wipe me out. But you have so many pets, you're probably having constant funerals.

The problem I have with pets is that I get really attached and deaths wipe me out. But you have so many pets, you're probably having constant funerals.

Yeah, And just like dealing with being an animal rescue, especially wildlife, like I'm a bit numb.

Yeah, And just like dealing with being an animal rescue, especially wildlife, like I'm a bit numb.

To it now. Does that make you not love animals as much when you see how fast the turnover is?

To it now. Does that make you not love animals as much when you see how fast the turnover is?