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Two stockings hung by the We're just hung with care Jordan and I.

Two stockings hung by the We're just hung with care Jordan and I.

It brings a new meting to Too Much Information anyway, We're just as you shut up. We're doing Christmas songs. That's the bit. That's it. That's all I got for you, As fans of the show will know, and certainly my co host knows. We've done a.

It brings a new meting to Too Much Information anyway, We're just as you shut up. We're doing Christmas songs. That's the bit. That's it. That's all I got for you, As fans of the show will know, and certainly my co host knows. We've done a.

Full length episode of Mariah Carey's Deathless classic.

Full length episode of Mariah Carey's Deathless classic.

All I went for Christmas is You. We have done the Pogues, fairy Tale of New York. We have done assorted movies, We've done TV specials. We did a rankin embassed episode for Rudolph. But what about all the other.

All I went for Christmas is You. We have done the Pogues, fairy Tale of New York. We have done assorted movies, We've done TV specials. We did a rankin embassed episode for Rudolph. But what about all the other.

Christmas songs that grind their way into the collective unconscious every December, like those worms from Star Trek two The Wrath of Kahn. So we're introducing a Christmas.

Christmas songs that grind their way into the collective unconscious every December, like those worms from Star Trek two The Wrath of Kahn. So we're introducing a Christmas.

Song Lightning Round episode to TMI where we're going to hit as many of these as we can before our throats and hearts and minds give out you delivering that in like a seasonal cow net cardigan is I know, I should have been wearing a bat. I should have been wearing like a smoking jacket, really, but I couldn't get one on such short notice. The smoking jacket rental season is just absolutely this time of year. So yeah, Jordan, yes, say something about Christmas songs. Baby. I love Christmas songs, you know, I mean, I love you would I know, I mean, you know. Part of it is that it actually they sound like the kind of pop music that I genuinely like the other eleven months of the year, Like it sounds like Phil Spector Wall of Sound, Brian Wilson type stuff. Wel Phil Spector did indeed cut one of the most famous Christmas albums, which, regrettably spoiler alert, we're not talking about this episode. That's like a full episode. That's a good Yeah. Yeah, these are great songs, Yeah they are.

Song Lightning Round episode to TMI where we're going to hit as many of these as we can before our throats and hearts and minds give out you delivering that in like a seasonal cow net cardigan is I know, I should have been wearing a bat. I should have been wearing like a smoking jacket, really, but I couldn't get one on such short notice. The smoking jacket rental season is just absolutely this time of year. So yeah, Jordan, yes, say something about Christmas songs. Baby. I love Christmas songs, you know, I mean, I love you would I know, I mean, you know. Part of it is that it actually they sound like the kind of pop music that I genuinely like the other eleven months of the year, Like it sounds like Phil Spector Wall of Sound, Brian Wilson type stuff. Wel Phil Spector did indeed cut one of the most famous Christmas albums, which, regrettably spoiler alert, we're not talking about this episode. That's like a full episode. That's a good Yeah. Yeah, these are great songs, Yeah they are.

I look, there's some Christmas music that I detest, and there's some Christmas music that I'm like, you know what, this is fine, this is fine and good. And obviously the ones that I picked are ones that I think this is fine and good.

I look, there's some Christmas music that I detest, and there's some Christmas music that I'm like, you know what, this is fine, this is fine and good. And obviously the ones that I picked are ones that I think this is fine and good.

They have ten total. You did seven, I did three. I did seven half acidly, and you did three with your whole ass, whole ass, And they're all, I believe, all ones that you despise. Well for you. Yeah, your picks, I hate, Yeah, my picks I'm agnostic on. But here's the thing though, unless we still want to be doing this by next Christmas, we have to. We had to put limits on it. Yeah. Yeah, I was looking up Billboard. I went to Billboard Magazine's Top fifty Christmas Songs of All Time, and I came upon a song entitled Sleigh. No, they're going for the homophone there. They wanted to be like Sleigh. It's like clever.

They have ten total. You did seven, I did three. I did seven half acidly, and you did three with your whole ass, whole ass, And they're all, I believe, all ones that you despise. Well for you. Yeah, your picks, I hate, Yeah, my picks I'm agnostic on. But here's the thing though, unless we still want to be doing this by next Christmas, we have to. We had to put limits on it. Yeah. Yeah, I was looking up Billboard. I went to Billboard Magazine's Top fifty Christmas Songs of All Time, and I came upon a song entitled Sleigh. No, they're going for the homophone there. They wanted to be like Sleigh. It's like clever.

That's a twenty nineteen song by Smigo featuring Monty Booker and Massego.

That's a twenty nineteen song by Smigo featuring Monty Booker and Massego.

I don't want to learn anything about that. Yeah, I'm not going to do it.

I don't want to learn anything about that. Yeah, I'm not going to do it.

Those sound like Star Wars characters and I'm not paying attention to that.

Those sound like Star Wars characters and I'm not paying attention to that.

And we picked classics. We picked the ones that everyone does. Let's see what else do you have any friends of the pod. We got a shout out, Oh you know what, I have a lot of friends of the pod. I got a shot at I got a friend of the pod named Emily who wrote in about our Jeff Buckley episode, and she said that it was one of the most poignant narratives that she had not expected when she was researching Buckley.

And we picked classics. We picked the ones that everyone does. Let's see what else do you have any friends of the pod. We got a shout out, Oh you know what, I have a lot of friends of the pod. I got a shot at I got a friend of the pod named Emily who wrote in about our Jeff Buckley episode, and she said that it was one of the most poignant narratives that she had not expected when she was researching Buckley.

So that's so nice. It was really lovely. I and she came through my personal website. So also a reminder folks that you can always get in touch with us at Kofi ko dot f I too much information pod cast on there and we.

So that's so nice. It was really lovely. I and she came through my personal website. So also a reminder folks that you can always get in touch with us at Kofi ko dot f I too much information pod cast on there and we.

Will answer you. It will probably made me be me Jordan. I don't know how often Jordan's in there, but it will probably be me. I lost the pass word. I've't been able to get in for like a couple of months now. Sorry, So it's me baby to talk to y'all.

Will answer you. It will probably made me be me Jordan. I don't know how often Jordan's in there, but it will probably be me. I lost the pass word. I've't been able to get in for like a couple of months now. Sorry, So it's me baby to talk to y'all.

So, and and you know, we also have somebody who talks to us through LinkedIn, so all Paul.

So, and and you know, we also have somebody who talks to us through LinkedIn, so all Paul.

Paul's great. Wherever you guys can find is, we will answer. Yeah. I crave validation. So oh, I got to tell you this crazy story. Okay, So it's a couple of days ago. It's like the week before Christmas. My family's in town visiting. It's also just the week before Christmas, so everything's crazy. I'm running behind. I'm late on everything. I'm sure listeners know the episodes have been late last couple of weeks. I'm sorry, it's all my fault. I'm late to a morning class. I'm late to see to see Lewis my trainer. Actually, oh yeah, friend of the paud Lewis. Oh yes, Jordan yoke, Yes, absolutely, he loved the Gladiator episode. By the way, I'm hupping. I'm puffing down my street and a very friendly looking man hangs out of a of a van on my street and like waves to me very excitedly. And I'm just assuming that it's it's someone behind me, or it's a mistake, like you know, it's just and so I just kind of keep booking and I keep trucking, and then I get a DM moment later, Hey, that was me. I'm sorry. I'm a TMI fan and I went to your talk at the Paley Center last week and I recognized you in the street. What are the odds? I can't believe it, and I feel so bad I blew right by him. So I just want to say, my dear friend. For purposes of broadcasting, I'll refer to him as too much KESO is handle I'm so sorry I missed you. Please let's go to win Sun Bakery. He was right by Windsun Bakery, which is near where I live. No, I definitely owe you something from there. I just thought that was so crazy, just like out on the street was so wild. It's Christmas time and you know, I didn't prepare anything, but I just want to say how grateful we all are. I mean, the best part of doing this show, aside from an excuse to nerd out and an excuse to hang with my dear friend Alex Heigels, just connecting with all these great new people and you know, I was texting with a few today and you know, it's really really special. It's been great. Yeah, we should have opened it up much earlier, to be honest, because just all the people who have said such wonderful things on KOFI and the people have gotten in touch with us on Twitter. It's been a real delight. So thank you everyone for who has done that. And just a reminder, if you make a Spicy donation, you get a claim to an episode request and we are slowly going through them.

Paul's great. Wherever you guys can find is, we will answer. Yeah. I crave validation. So oh, I got to tell you this crazy story. Okay, So it's a couple of days ago. It's like the week before Christmas. My family's in town visiting. It's also just the week before Christmas, so everything's crazy. I'm running behind. I'm late on everything. I'm sure listeners know the episodes have been late last couple of weeks. I'm sorry, it's all my fault. I'm late to a morning class. I'm late to see to see Lewis my trainer. Actually, oh yeah, friend of the paud Lewis. Oh yes, Jordan yoke, Yes, absolutely, he loved the Gladiator episode. By the way, I'm hupping. I'm puffing down my street and a very friendly looking man hangs out of a of a van on my street and like waves to me very excitedly. And I'm just assuming that it's it's someone behind me, or it's a mistake, like you know, it's just and so I just kind of keep booking and I keep trucking, and then I get a DM moment later, Hey, that was me. I'm sorry. I'm a TMI fan and I went to your talk at the Paley Center last week and I recognized you in the street. What are the odds? I can't believe it, and I feel so bad I blew right by him. So I just want to say, my dear friend. For purposes of broadcasting, I'll refer to him as too much KESO is handle I'm so sorry I missed you. Please let's go to win Sun Bakery. He was right by Windsun Bakery, which is near where I live. No, I definitely owe you something from there. I just thought that was so crazy, just like out on the street was so wild. It's Christmas time and you know, I didn't prepare anything, but I just want to say how grateful we all are. I mean, the best part of doing this show, aside from an excuse to nerd out and an excuse to hang with my dear friend Alex Heigels, just connecting with all these great new people and you know, I was texting with a few today and you know, it's really really special. It's been great. Yeah, we should have opened it up much earlier, to be honest, because just all the people who have said such wonderful things on KOFI and the people have gotten in touch with us on Twitter. It's been a real delight. So thank you everyone for who has done that. And just a reminder, if you make a Spicy donation, you get a claim to an episode request and we are slowly going through them.

A lot of you have requested music ones, so those are a little backed up as we space them out, But Gladiator was a listener request. So I have proof that we do do them. And let's set to do Christmas. We're doing Christmas Jordan from Christmas to Christmas and Christmas to Christmas. Here's everything you didn't know about Christmas songs.

A lot of you have requested music ones, so those are a little backed up as we space them out, But Gladiator was a listener request. So I have proof that we do do them. And let's set to do Christmas. We're doing Christmas Jordan from Christmas to Christmas and Christmas to Christmas. Here's everything you didn't know about Christmas songs.

I've been drinking all day. I was gonna say it was good will, good will, goodwill, and then it was like the end of film on Louise. It just was like off the cliff.

I've been drinking all day. I was gonna say it was good will, good will, goodwill, and then it was like the end of film on Louise. It just was like off the cliff.

Well, you know, my nephew got baptized today, so it was allowed to get drunk. I'm Italian.

Well, you know, my nephew got baptized today, so it was allowed to get drunk. I'm Italian.

Is it at the church? No? No, just afterwards? All right, jingle bells it we'll do it live.

Is it at the church? No? No, just afterwards? All right, jingle bells it we'll do it live.

Jingle bells. Why not open with jingle bells? What do you think about jingle bells?

Jingle bells. Why not open with jingle bells? What do you think about jingle bells?

Jingle bells? I mean to me, it's been kind of tainted by the school Yard Batman edition. And we'll get to that. Okay, Yeah, no, it's fine, it's fine. I don't have deep you see, this isn't to me, This isn't. I have more feelings about the new edition pop ones from the last like fifty years.

Jingle bells? I mean to me, it's been kind of tainted by the school Yard Batman edition. And we'll get to that. Okay, Yeah, no, it's fine, it's fine. I don't have deep you see, this isn't to me, This isn't. I have more feelings about the new edition pop ones from the last like fifty years.

Well, you're about to care about jingle bells. I'll tell me do you know why that is?

Well, you're about to care about jingle bells. I'll tell me do you know why that is?

There's gonna be a Titanic connection or Beatles connection, so close Massachusetts connection.

There's gonna be a Titanic connection or Beatles connection, so close Massachusetts connection.

The song was Yeah, it's Massachusetts Baby. The song was copyrighted under the title one Horse, Open Sleigh in eighteen fifty seven. It's writer, James Pierpont, was living in Savannah, Georgia. The title was subsequently changed to jingle Bells when the song was republish in eighteen fifty nine. This is a Civil War era Christmas song that's nuts but the town of Medford, Massachusetts, where Pierpont was born, Medford, Medford, all the blue heads all the way out in Medford, or that one when old when old James Pierre Pond stepped up to the plate, he wagged, he socked the dinga so hard. Hey guy, guys, hey guy, watch this. You're like Dinga's.

The song was Yeah, it's Massachusetts Baby. The song was copyrighted under the title one Horse, Open Sleigh in eighteen fifty seven. It's writer, James Pierpont, was living in Savannah, Georgia. The title was subsequently changed to jingle Bells when the song was republish in eighteen fifty nine. This is a Civil War era Christmas song that's nuts but the town of Medford, Massachusetts, where Pierpont was born, Medford, Medford, all the blue heads all the way out in Medford, or that one when old when old James Pierre Pond stepped up to the plate, he wagged, he socked the dinga so hard. Hey guy, guys, hey guy, watch this. You're like Dinga's.

You like one hosse open sleighs. You're like one. I got fucking spades.

You like one hosse open sleighs. You're like one. I got fucking spades.

Medford, Massachusetts, where peer Pont was born, claims that this song was actually written in eighteen fifty at a place called the Simpson Tavern in Medford. And in case you need to win maybe the most granular bar trivia contest that could ever exist anywhere. The corroborating witness to this is missus ODIs Waterman, missus Otis Waterman, missus Otis Watermen.

Medford, Massachusetts, where peer Pont was born, claims that this song was actually written in eighteen fifty at a place called the Simpson Tavern in Medford. And in case you need to win maybe the most granular bar trivia contest that could ever exist anywhere. The corroborating witness to this is missus ODIs Waterman, missus Otis Waterman, missus Otis Watermen.

What context is that? Yeah, you don't believe me. Asknis's wife. I think that's the Medford Historical Society. They're like, missus Otis Waterman was in the pub when she saw it. But so here's what's really gonna blow your mind. Okay, jingle Bells wasn't even a Christmas song. It was written for children to sing at a Thanksgiving event at a Medford Sunday school, and it turned out that it was such a banger that they were asked to sing it again at Christmas. Where it stuck.

What context is that? Yeah, you don't believe me. Asknis's wife. I think that's the Medford Historical Society. They're like, missus Otis Waterman was in the pub when she saw it. But so here's what's really gonna blow your mind. Okay, jingle Bells wasn't even a Christmas song. It was written for children to sing at a Thanksgiving event at a Medford Sunday school, and it turned out that it was such a banger that they were asked to sing it again at Christmas. Where it stuck.

Peer Pom was writing about literal sleigh rides and races on Salem Street in Medford in the early eighteen hundreds. In races as in like not the misigenation enough that you would assume people from Massachusetts care about, but I mean literally is one sleigh faster than the other. That's kind of sick anyway, because Savannah was where peer ponm was living when he wrote it. Unless he did write it in this tavern, they have gone on to claim it because they said it was on the occasion of his first snowless Christmas in the South that he wrote this whistole for his home in Medford.

Peer Pom was writing about literal sleigh rides and races on Salem Street in Medford in the early eighteen hundreds. In races as in like not the misigenation enough that you would assume people from Massachusetts care about, but I mean literally is one sleigh faster than the other. That's kind of sick anyway, because Savannah was where peer ponm was living when he wrote it. Unless he did write it in this tavern, they have gone on to claim it because they said it was on the occasion of his first snowless Christmas in the South that he wrote this whistole for his home in Medford.

You can't claim something if somebody's there and not wanting to be there and writing about wishing they were somewhere else. Well, it gets worse because, of course Massachusetts found a way to make this racist jingle bells. The re christened version was first performed on September fifteenth, eighteen fifty seven, at Ordway Hall in Boston by blackface minstrel performer Johnny pel Oh, it's like Massachusetts claiming, like James Taylor's in my mind, I'm going to Carolina. It's like, well, you could. But was he incarcerated. He might have been in a psychiatric hospital. No, I don't think so. I think he was in Massachusetts and it was No, he's in London. Sorry, he was in London and it was cold and he wished he was back home. You can't claim something if somebody's writing a song wishing they weren't there. I hate James Tanner really, Yea's very nice to me. I know, I'm sure he was. He was very nice.

You can't claim something if somebody's there and not wanting to be there and writing about wishing they were somewhere else. Well, it gets worse because, of course Massachusetts found a way to make this racist jingle bells. The re christened version was first performed on September fifteenth, eighteen fifty seven, at Ordway Hall in Boston by blackface minstrel performer Johnny pel Oh, it's like Massachusetts claiming, like James Taylor's in my mind, I'm going to Carolina. It's like, well, you could. But was he incarcerated. He might have been in a psychiatric hospital. No, I don't think so. I think he was in Massachusetts and it was No, he's in London. Sorry, he was in London and it was cold and he wished he was back home. You can't claim something if somebody's writing a song wishing they weren't there. I hate James Tanner really, Yea's very nice to me. I know, I'm sure he was. He was very nice.

He seems that seems he seems too nice. How do you feel about me, sweet baby James? If your nickname is sweet Baby James, you're not like a real man. I'm sorry you either have to be so huge and so imposing that like like.

He seems that seems he seems too nice. How do you feel about me, sweet baby James? If your nickname is sweet Baby James, you're not like a real man. I'm sorry you either have to be so huge and so imposing that like like.

He's a very tall man. He's not imposing. Eh, he's pretty lanky. He's kind of like got that praying mannis thing going.

He's a very tall man. He's not imposing. Eh, he's pretty lanky. He's kind of like got that praying mannis thing going.

Do you think I could take James Taylor in a fight. He's got reach, but I will cheat.

Do you think I could take James Taylor in a fight. He's got reach, but I will cheat.

I don't know anyone who could do that much heroin and survive. I kind of think has something else going. Okay, okay, okay, what about me versus Paul Simon? That's a wash. He'd want it more, he would want it more, but I would I would man handle him. Was he like five to three? Yeah? But I don't know. Haven't you seen that SNL thing where he plays basketball with like Wilt Chamberlain or something. I have seen that sketch. Yeah again next week for when we talk about other folk rock icons that I might be able to beat in a fight. Oh, I saw the Bob Dylan movie the other day. Oh, I could definitely beat Timothy Shalloway as Bob Dylan. I probably couldn't beat Bob Dylan as Bob Dylan. No.

I don't know anyone who could do that much heroin and survive. I kind of think has something else going. Okay, okay, okay, what about me versus Paul Simon? That's a wash. He'd want it more, he would want it more, but I would I would man handle him. Was he like five to three? Yeah? But I don't know. Haven't you seen that SNL thing where he plays basketball with like Wilt Chamberlain or something. I have seen that sketch. Yeah again next week for when we talk about other folk rock icons that I might be able to beat in a fight. Oh, I saw the Bob Dylan movie the other day. Oh, I could definitely beat Timothy Shalloway as Bob Dylan. I probably couldn't beat Bob Dylan as Bob Dylan. No.

Yeah, that man was on so much government speed. I'm gonna go ahead and a lemon say this.

Yeah, that man was on so much government speed. I'm gonna go ahead and a lemon say this.

I'm gonna say he would cheat too, Yeah, but he'd be open about it. Yeah. I think. Do we think that that Dylan is a as a CIA operative similar to all the Laurel Canyon stuff.

I'm gonna say he would cheat too, Yeah, but he'd be open about it. Yeah. I think. Do we think that that Dylan is a as a CIA operative similar to all the Laurel Canyon stuff.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Maybe he's one of the certainly one of the most baffling ones.

Maybe he's one of the certainly one of the most baffling ones.

But I can figure out what the agenda for him would be. What trying to get people to become born again Christians.

But I can figure out what the agenda for him would be. What trying to get people to become born again Christians.

In the same way all the Laurel Canyon stuff was trying to defang the very legitimate labor union. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, with like kind of a political hippie stuff. This was sort of I guess his stuff was very political. Never mind. Yeah, haven't you ever heard like a Ballad of a Thin Man? Dude? Yeah, that's one of my favorite masters. Hey man, those songs are political. Man. What's that is that cider? That's scotch?

In the same way all the Laurel Canyon stuff was trying to defang the very legitimate labor union. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, with like kind of a political hippie stuff. This was sort of I guess his stuff was very political. Never mind. Yeah, haven't you ever heard like a Ballad of a Thin Man? Dude? Yeah, that's one of my favorite masters. Hey man, those songs are political. Man. What's that is that cider? That's scotch?

So apparently, jingle Bells was first actually recorded on an Edison cylinder by a banjo player named Will Lyle in eighteen eighty nine, though no copies of it exist. The earliest version that does exist was recorded in eighteen ninety eight by a male vocal quartet. So we're going through steadily lamer and lamer incarnations of early music. However, the first person to make jingle Bells a hit was swing king Benny Goodman Baby in nineteen thirty five, followed by in successive years, Glenn Miller Bing Crosby and Big Cronsby with the Andrew Sisters. And then, and this shocked me, electric guitar iconed Les Paul in nineteen fifty one, Less Paul, in his multi tracking era, did a version of jingle Bells where he just overdubbed all the guitar parts.

So apparently, jingle Bells was first actually recorded on an Edison cylinder by a banjo player named Will Lyle in eighteen eighty nine, though no copies of it exist. The earliest version that does exist was recorded in eighteen ninety eight by a male vocal quartet. So we're going through steadily lamer and lamer incarnations of early music. However, the first person to make jingle Bells a hit was swing king Benny Goodman Baby in nineteen thirty five, followed by in successive years, Glenn Miller Bing Crosby and Big Cronsby with the Andrew Sisters. And then, and this shocked me, electric guitar iconed Les Paul in nineteen fifty one, Less Paul, in his multi tracking era, did a version of jingle Bells where he just overdubbed all the guitar parts.

It was like the first guy to really take over ubbing seriously, right, yeah, oh yeah.

It was like the first guy to really take over ubbing seriously, right, yeah, oh yeah.

He's crazy innovative in that regard. But here's another fun fact. Jingle Bells was one of the first songs broadcast from space.

He's crazy innovative in that regard. But here's another fun fact. Jingle Bells was one of the first songs broadcast from space.

WHOA, that's cool.

WHOA, that's cool.

In nineteen sixty five, astronauts Tom Stafford and Wally Sira were aboard the Gemini six and they pranked mission control by calling in saying that they had seen an unidentified object, and when they were pressed to identify it, they pulled out a tiny one inch Honor harmonica and sleigh bells that were contraband they had actually smuggled these aboard and then saying jingle bells to mission control.

In nineteen sixty five, astronauts Tom Stafford and Wally Sira were aboard the Gemini six and they pranked mission control by calling in saying that they had seen an unidentified object, and when they were pressed to identify it, they pulled out a tiny one inch Honor harmonica and sleigh bells that were contraband they had actually smuggled these aboard and then saying jingle bells to mission control.

That's awesome. Wasn't there another one? Wen't we just talking about another episode? Somebody an astronauts smuggled at corn beef sandwich aboard one of the Apollo flights. Or maybe it was Gemini. This have to do with the Irish. Maybe I forget what happened. That might have been Gus Grissom. He didn't like the the in flight meals. That's probably not what they were called Onora. Yeah, red meals. So he went on the way to like blast off. He stopped by his favorite deli and somehow smuggle the board of corn beef sandwich. I feel like that's gonna get so greasy and like unpleasant and just like all the bits floating around, all the like crumbs. Yeah, you're gonna contain every bit of like was it a rubin or just a corn beef? I it's just a corn beef on rye dry. He didn't put mustard on it. I don't, well that would get even more gloppy, and yeah, can you imagine like like some like a mustard seed gets in like the computer. Oh yeah, I sure can. That's probably It's probably happened to Apollo thirteen and they were just too embarrassed to admit it. It's probably what happened to Challenger in honor of the first teacher in space. We're gonna smuggle the board, some square pizzas and watery pasta.

That's awesome. Wasn't there another one? Wen't we just talking about another episode? Somebody an astronauts smuggled at corn beef sandwich aboard one of the Apollo flights. Or maybe it was Gemini. This have to do with the Irish. Maybe I forget what happened. That might have been Gus Grissom. He didn't like the the in flight meals. That's probably not what they were called Onora. Yeah, red meals. So he went on the way to like blast off. He stopped by his favorite deli and somehow smuggle the board of corn beef sandwich. I feel like that's gonna get so greasy and like unpleasant and just like all the bits floating around, all the like crumbs. Yeah, you're gonna contain every bit of like was it a rubin or just a corn beef? I it's just a corn beef on rye dry. He didn't put mustard on it. I don't, well that would get even more gloppy, and yeah, can you imagine like like some like a mustard seed gets in like the computer. Oh yeah, I sure can. That's probably It's probably happened to Apollo thirteen and they were just too embarrassed to admit it. It's probably what happened to Challenger in honor of the first teacher in space. We're gonna smuggle the board, some square pizzas and watery pasta.

They just had it to fit perfectly into all the floppy disk parts. Oh no, one's stuck in one. Oh it's sparking. Wow, this got dark real quick. Here's another weird fact and a rare TMI correction. Oh okay, folks, for all of you who who say I don't admit when I'm wrong, I do, and I'm doing it now. In our episode on Batman the Animated Series, I reported that the legendary playground parody of jingle bells that rhymes Batman Smells with jingle bells originated on Batman the Animated Series and was later sung again on The Simpsons, leading people to confuse the origins of the song, but now TMI regrets the air. The first reference to jingle bells Batman Smells is tied to the original sixties Adam West series. It is mentioned on page sixteen of the January third, nineteen sixty seven edition of the Lawton Constitution from Lawton, Oklahoma, and the notice read as follows. Lil l I Pastrophiel Lil Jana Montgomery, daughter of Major and Missus Ross D. Montgomery, formerly stationed at Fort Sill and now with MAAG headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, warbled this tune during the holidays. Jingle bells, Batman Smells, Robin ran away, batmobile lost a wheel, and commissioners stuck in a sleigh.

They just had it to fit perfectly into all the floppy disk parts. Oh no, one's stuck in one. Oh it's sparking. Wow, this got dark real quick. Here's another weird fact and a rare TMI correction. Oh okay, folks, for all of you who who say I don't admit when I'm wrong, I do, and I'm doing it now. In our episode on Batman the Animated Series, I reported that the legendary playground parody of jingle bells that rhymes Batman Smells with jingle bells originated on Batman the Animated Series and was later sung again on The Simpsons, leading people to confuse the origins of the song, but now TMI regrets the air. The first reference to jingle bells Batman Smells is tied to the original sixties Adam West series. It is mentioned on page sixteen of the January third, nineteen sixty seven edition of the Lawton Constitution from Lawton, Oklahoma, and the notice read as follows. Lil l I Pastrophiel Lil Jana Montgomery, daughter of Major and Missus Ross D. Montgomery, formerly stationed at Fort Sill and now with MAAG headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, warbled this tune during the holidays. Jingle bells, Batman Smells, Robin ran away, batmobile lost a wheel, and commissioners stuck in a sleigh.

That's really c plus work, Jenna, you really got a stanchion on that. And I don't know who added, you know, Riddler got away or whatever the last part of that is. But Jena, you did a bad job.

That's really c plus work, Jenna, you really got a stanchion on that. And I don't know who added, you know, Riddler got away or whatever the last part of that is. But Jena, you did a bad job.

But the first reference to that song January third, nineteen sixty seven. That's crazy. Don't let anybody tell you different. That's the TMI promise. Jordan, what do you think is the most depressing Christmas song?

But the first reference to that song January third, nineteen sixty seven. That's crazy. Don't let anybody tell you different. That's the TMI promise. Jordan, what do you think is the most depressing Christmas song?

I'd say it's a toss up between fairy Tale of New York, which I think is equally depressing but also exhilarating, especially for lines like I could have been someone, but so of anyone. But also I think probably the one you're about to read, because I know dimly about the backstory.

I'd say it's a toss up between fairy Tale of New York, which I think is equally depressing but also exhilarating, especially for lines like I could have been someone, but so of anyone. But also I think probably the one you're about to read, because I know dimly about the backstory.

Well, my favorite actually would be Another Lonely Christmas, which is one of my favorite Prince Deep Cuts, that is the film in which are the film because there's such cinematic visions. This would be the Prince Deep Cut. How did this song? Oh the B side too I Would Die for You right in nineteen eighty four, So Another Lonely Christmas. Prince was quite lonely, apparently during this point in his life, so he decided to fictionalize an account of a man mourning his lover who had died from pneumonia on the previous Christmas Day. Prince is the character in the Song's method of remembrance is to get schnookered on banana dakers because that was his beloved favorite drink. But we are not here to talk about another one.

Well, my favorite actually would be Another Lonely Christmas, which is one of my favorite Prince Deep Cuts, that is the film in which are the film because there's such cinematic visions. This would be the Prince Deep Cut. How did this song? Oh the B side too I Would Die for You right in nineteen eighty four, So Another Lonely Christmas. Prince was quite lonely, apparently during this point in his life, so he decided to fictionalize an account of a man mourning his lover who had died from pneumonia on the previous Christmas Day. Prince is the character in the Song's method of remembrance is to get schnookered on banana dakers because that was his beloved favorite drink. But we are not here to talk about another one.

I actually, oh, I have another one. Actually I forgot. Do you remember I think we talked about this on the fairy Tale of New York episode when we did a rundown of depressing Christmas songs. Do you remember the Christmas Shoes? No? Bye? The group is called New Song. It's about it sounds Christian. I think it probably is. Sir. I want to buy these shoes for my mama. Please. It's Christmas Eve and these shoes are just your size. Could you hurry, sir? Daddy says, there's not much time. You see, she's been sick for quite a while and I know these shoes would make her smile, and I want her to look beautiful if Mama meets Jesus tonight, I.

I actually, oh, I have another one. Actually I forgot. Do you remember I think we talked about this on the fairy Tale of New York episode when we did a rundown of depressing Christmas songs. Do you remember the Christmas Shoes? No? Bye? The group is called New Song. It's about it sounds Christian. I think it probably is. Sir. I want to buy these shoes for my mama. Please. It's Christmas Eve and these shoes are just your size. Could you hurry, sir? Daddy says, there's not much time. You see, she's been sick for quite a while and I know these shoes would make her smile, and I want her to look beautiful if Mama meets Jesus tonight, I.

Said D plus. Those rhymes are atrocious, sure, but Big Bommer still a D plus. So have yourself a merry little Christmas. Also Big Bommer a huge bummer. Yeah, one of my favorite Christmas songs. I love the melody in this, I just love the writing, and I love how convoluted a lyrical history it has. This song was originally written by the songwriting team of Hugh Martin and Ralph Blaine in nineteen forty three for the nineteen forty four musical Meet Me in Saint Louis starring Judy Garland.

Said D plus. Those rhymes are atrocious, sure, but Big Bommer still a D plus. So have yourself a merry little Christmas. Also Big Bommer a huge bummer. Yeah, one of my favorite Christmas songs. I love the melody in this, I just love the writing, and I love how convoluted a lyrical history it has. This song was originally written by the songwriting team of Hugh Martin and Ralph Blaine in nineteen forty three for the nineteen forty four musical Meet Me in Saint Louis starring Judy Garland.

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In that film, Garland's character sings the song to cheer up her five year old sister. The family has just been rocked by the news that their father may move them all to New York for his job just before the nineteen oh four World's Fair descended upon their hometown. So that's where you get couplets like will pop the champagne cork next year we all may be living in New York. But Hugh Martin, who has since claimed soul songwriting credit for this song, said Ralph Blaine didn't do His first draft had couplets featuring couplets like have yourself a merry little Christmas.

In that film, Garland's character sings the song to cheer up her five year old sister. The family has just been rocked by the news that their father may move them all to New York for his job just before the nineteen oh four World's Fair descended upon their hometown. So that's where you get couplets like will pop the champagne cork next year we all may be living in New York. But Hugh Martin, who has since claimed soul songwriting credit for this song, said Ralph Blaine didn't do His first draft had couplets featuring couplets like have yourself a merry little Christmas.

It may be your last.

It may be your last.

Faithful friends who were dear to us will be near to us no more.

Faithful friends who were dear to us will be near to us no more.

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I love Christmas songs confronting the grim specter of death, but the team behind Meet Me in Saint Louis not so much. I often wondered what it would have been like those lyrics been sung in the movie. Margaret O'Brien, who played the younger sister and Meet Me in Saint Louis, told Entertainment Weekly in two thousand and seven, but about a week before we were to shoot the scene where Judy sings it to me, she looked at the lyrics and said, don't you think these are awfully dark? I'm going to go to Hugh Martin and see if he can lighten it up a little. So absolutely gacked to her little gills on speed. Judy Garland went over to mister Martin and suggested the change. He was initially resistant. He recalled to Entertainment Weekly. They said, it's so dreadfully sad. I said, I thought the girls were supposed to be sad in that scene. They said, well, not, that's sad. And Judy was saying, if I sing that, if I sing that to little, sweet little I don't have a Judy Garland impression. I didn't have that locked. If I sing that to sweet little Margaret O'Brien, They'll think I'm a monster. And she was quite right, but it took me a long time to get over my pride. Finally, Tom Drake, who is the male lead of the of the movie, who was a friend, convinced me. He said, you, stupid son of a bitch, You're gonna foul up your life if you don't write another verse of that song. But the song, this is the craziest thing to me. That song was not even a banger. People did not really cotton to it. It's just like over the Rainbow.

I love Christmas songs confronting the grim specter of death, but the team behind Meet Me in Saint Louis not so much. I often wondered what it would have been like those lyrics been sung in the movie. Margaret O'Brien, who played the younger sister and Meet Me in Saint Louis, told Entertainment Weekly in two thousand and seven, but about a week before we were to shoot the scene where Judy sings it to me, she looked at the lyrics and said, don't you think these are awfully dark? I'm going to go to Hugh Martin and see if he can lighten it up a little. So absolutely gacked to her little gills on speed. Judy Garland went over to mister Martin and suggested the change. He was initially resistant. He recalled to Entertainment Weekly. They said, it's so dreadfully sad. I said, I thought the girls were supposed to be sad in that scene. They said, well, not, that's sad. And Judy was saying, if I sing that, if I sing that to little, sweet little I don't have a Judy Garland impression. I didn't have that locked. If I sing that to sweet little Margaret O'Brien, They'll think I'm a monster. And she was quite right, but it took me a long time to get over my pride. Finally, Tom Drake, who is the male lead of the of the movie, who was a friend, convinced me. He said, you, stupid son of a bitch, You're gonna foul up your life if you don't write another verse of that song. But the song, this is the craziest thing to me. That song was not even a banger. People did not really cotton to it. It's just like over the Rainbow.

But you know what the big hit was from Meet Me in Saint Louis. It was a try song Chian Klang Klan goes as a.

But you know what the big hit was from Meet Me in Saint Louis. It was a try song Chian Klang Klan goes as a.

Young ring ring went the bell zing zing zing my heart strings and something I'll see you and hell have yourself for Mary Little Christmas was such a dud it took even old blue eyes Frankie sin himself to make it a hit. He recorded it once in nineteen forty seven and then came back to it a whole decade later. According to songwriter Martin, he said, Frank called ask if I would rewrite the muddle through somehow line he said, the name of my album? He said, the name of my album is a Jolly Christmas. You think you jolly? That line up for me? Otherwise it's ring a ding for you, bozo. He didn't say that last line. That's just me editorializing. So not about to give the chairman any lip. Otherwise he would have been underage raped by him.

Young ring ring went the bell zing zing zing my heart strings and something I'll see you and hell have yourself for Mary Little Christmas was such a dud it took even old blue eyes Frankie sin himself to make it a hit. He recorded it once in nineteen forty seven and then came back to it a whole decade later. According to songwriter Martin, he said, Frank called ask if I would rewrite the muddle through somehow line he said, the name of my album? He said, the name of my album is a Jolly Christmas. You think you jolly? That line up for me? Otherwise it's ring a ding for you, bozo. He didn't say that last line. That's just me editorializing. So not about to give the chairman any lip. Otherwise he would have been underage raped by him.

Ooh, can't say that about Frank, right, Is that something that?

Ooh, can't say that about Frank, right, Is that something that?

Oh that famous Frank Frank Sinatra mugshot is for stature rape?

Oh that famous Frank Frank Sinatra mugshot is for stature rape?

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Anyway, Martin made some cheerier alteration. He said he shifted the happiness into the present tense and changed the muddle through line to hang a shining star upon the highest bow. And then, in one final twist to this convoluted history of the song's lyrics, Martin wrote a pointedly religious version of have Yourself a marri Little Christmas in two thousand and one, changing it to have Yourself a Blessed Little Christmas, which, among other things, replaced if the Fates Allow with if the Lord Allows. Martin was once again supposedly correcting an original bit of censorship done to his first draft. He originally had if the Lord Allows, and then the songwriting the people behind meet me in Saint Louis said, we can't skew that religious Martin. The country has been torn apart by war and discord, and clearly there's no God, so please, there's no God left, So you simply can't say if the Lord allows, we are a secular country now and we will be for the rest of our duration.

Anyway, Martin made some cheerier alteration. He said he shifted the happiness into the present tense and changed the muddle through line to hang a shining star upon the highest bow. And then, in one final twist to this convoluted history of the song's lyrics, Martin wrote a pointedly religious version of have Yourself a marri Little Christmas in two thousand and one, changing it to have Yourself a Blessed Little Christmas, which, among other things, replaced if the Fates Allow with if the Lord Allows. Martin was once again supposedly correcting an original bit of censorship done to his first draft. He originally had if the Lord Allows, and then the songwriting the people behind meet me in Saint Louis said, we can't skew that religious Martin. The country has been torn apart by war and discord, and clearly there's no God, so please, there's no God left, So you simply can't say if the Lord allows, we are a secular country now and we will be for the rest of our duration.

I had been under the impression that this song dealt with the looming specter of nuclear holocaust. I thought that was part of why so the lyrics were so ominous.

I had been under the impression that this song dealt with the looming specter of nuclear holocaust. I thought that was part of why so the lyrics were so ominous.

Like well, it was clearly under the Specter of Ward War II because I've written nineteen forty three.

Like well, it was clearly under the Specter of Ward War II because I've written nineteen forty three.

But yeah, what a great song. Yeah, it's a really good song. And you know, of the three songs that I'm going to talk about this, this is one that I actually think there's a chance you might like. Even though the pairing is so weird, I think it's really pretty and I think it's cool. Oh, my friend, I know where you're going with this. Yes, Peace on Earth. Little Drummer Boy Boie meets Bing nineteen seventy seven. I love this. How do you feel about this? Before I get into the whole back start.

But yeah, what a great song. Yeah, it's a really good song. And you know, of the three songs that I'm going to talk about this, this is one that I actually think there's a chance you might like. Even though the pairing is so weird, I think it's really pretty and I think it's cool. Oh, my friend, I know where you're going with this. Yes, Peace on Earth. Little Drummer Boy Boie meets Bing nineteen seventy seven. I love this. How do you feel about this? Before I get into the whole back start.

It's one of those things that just kind of fries your synapses. Yeah, the incongruity, like if you first see that, I guess honestly, if I saw that for the first time in twenty twenty four, I'd be like, what is this deep fake bulch that you've served to me? Yeah, Like, there's no way those two were in the same room together. But here we are talking about it so many years later. It's a good song, it's a good performance. I should say it's no, it's not a good song, but.

It's one of those things that just kind of fries your synapses. Yeah, the incongruity, like if you first see that, I guess honestly, if I saw that for the first time in twenty twenty four, I'd be like, what is this deep fake bulch that you've served to me? Yeah, Like, there's no way those two were in the same room together. But here we are talking about it so many years later. It's a good song, it's a good performance. I should say it's no, it's not a good song, but.

Go ahead, all right, Well we'll talk about why it's not that great of a song because they wrote it in like an hour on the spot because Bowie didn't like the song that we're gonna have him sing. Okay, So it's nineteen seventy seven. With the release of Heroes, David Bowie said about trying to normalize his professional reputation after his period in Berlin, during which he'd.

Go ahead, all right, Well we'll talk about why it's not that great of a song because they wrote it in like an hour on the spot because Bowie didn't like the song that we're gonna have him sing. Okay, So it's nineteen seventy seven. With the release of Heroes, David Bowie said about trying to normalize his professional reputation after his period in Berlin, during which he'd.

Kept a low profile, trying to kick an ungodly amount of coke yes and making some of the most experimental music of his premiere He released the album Low the year before Heroes was a little more in the pop lane, and so now he was doing more promotion than he'd done in many years. As he was trying to kind of get back in action.

Kept a low profile, trying to kick an ungodly amount of coke yes and making some of the most experimental music of his premiere He released the album Low the year before Heroes was a little more in the pop lane, and so now he was doing more promotion than he'd done in many years. As he was trying to kind of get back in action.

He made high profile appearances on the Top of the Pops TV show in the UK and Mark Bolan's TV series Mark performing songs. Rumors that he drop in on The Muppet Show sadly proved false. That would have been amazing, but he did take on an arguably weirder role on Bing Crosby's Christmas special. I guess, bearing in mind David's influences, it's not quite as in congress as you might think. David had a penchant for middle of the road entertainment. He was initially when he first became a performer, obsessed with this guy Anthony Newley. Back in the sixties. He was this kind of light entertainment singer, song writer figure. He's probably most famous to millennials for co writing the songs in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. But yeah, Bowie meets being it seemed almost perverse. I mean, you have the king of the cutting edge appearing with a seventy four year old World War II crooner in a festive Cardigan. Crosby was seventy three. Seventy three excuse men die a month after this taping. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm really unclear by Bowie's motivations for going on this.

He made high profile appearances on the Top of the Pops TV show in the UK and Mark Bolan's TV series Mark performing songs. Rumors that he drop in on The Muppet Show sadly proved false. That would have been amazing, but he did take on an arguably weirder role on Bing Crosby's Christmas special. I guess, bearing in mind David's influences, it's not quite as in congress as you might think. David had a penchant for middle of the road entertainment. He was initially when he first became a performer, obsessed with this guy Anthony Newley. Back in the sixties. He was this kind of light entertainment singer, song writer figure. He's probably most famous to millennials for co writing the songs in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. But yeah, Bowie meets being it seemed almost perverse. I mean, you have the king of the cutting edge appearing with a seventy four year old World War II crooner in a festive Cardigan. Crosby was seventy three. Seventy three excuse men die a month after this taping. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm really unclear by Bowie's motivations for going on this.

I have it, Okay, I have it from actually an article I wrote it people. He said, I won't sing, I hate the song. I'm doing this show because my mother loves bing Crosby. That was Bowie's motivation.

I have it, Okay, I have it from actually an article I wrote it people. He said, I won't sing, I hate the song. I'm doing this show because my mother loves bing Crosby. That was Bowie's motivation.

But he and his mom had like a really tempestuous relationship, so I almost question that. I mean, I really wonder if he was trying to either subvert this most bland, you know, banal art farm Holiday TV's specials, or if he was just doing the most punk rock thing he could possibly do, which is doing the least punk rock thing he could possibly do. I don't know. He never really opened up about it beyond that statement that his mom liked Bing Crosby. So David Bowie travels to the ATV L Stree Studios, just north of London on September eleventh, nineteen seventy seven, to film Bing Crosby's TV special Merry Old Christmas. Bing had extended the invitation to David, partially because his teenage children were big fans, but when David showed up wearing over the top makeup and an earring, he apparently had some second thoughts.

But he and his mom had like a really tempestuous relationship, so I almost question that. I mean, I really wonder if he was trying to either subvert this most bland, you know, banal art farm Holiday TV's specials, or if he was just doing the most punk rock thing he could possibly do, which is doing the least punk rock thing he could possibly do. I don't know. He never really opened up about it beyond that statement that his mom liked Bing Crosby. So David Bowie travels to the ATV L Stree Studios, just north of London on September eleventh, nineteen seventy seven, to film Bing Crosby's TV special Merry Old Christmas. Bing had extended the invitation to David, partially because his teenage children were big fans, but when David showed up wearing over the top makeup and an earring, he apparently had some second thoughts.

Also full length mink coat. That's awesome, he and his wife.

Also full length mink coat. That's awesome, he and his wife.

Yeah, according to Bing's kids, producers took David aside and gently requested that he wipe off his makeup and remove the earring, and he duly complied. Crosby son Nathaniel would recall the appearance almost didn't happen. I think the producers told him to take the lipstick off and take the earring out. It was just incredible to see the contrast. Yeah, you mentioned that They claimed that he showed up with his wife, Angie, but at this time they were really on the outs and they would be divorced, I think by the end of the year, so it's really unlikely that she showed up there with him, which kind of throws this whole story in the question. Well, it might not have been Angie who showed up in that length. Okay, good point, good point. But yes, as you mentioned, there was a bigger problem on the horizon than David Bowie's attire. The original plan was for Being and Bowie to perform a duet of The Little Drummer Boy, but when David arrived, he announced I hate this song? Is there something else I could sing? Which is such a classic bit of yes, this has been in the works for weeks now, and nobody for me. If nobody told you, or you didn't look at the one cheat we gave you, and now here you are. One of the script writers would later say that Bowie felt the song quote wasn't a good showcase for his voice, and Bowie doubled down by saying, if I have to sing that song, I can't do the show. Jordan, what would you do it with me? On a Christmas song? I would say, Baby, it's cold outside and you can beat whichever part you want so you can stay in and podcast, much to the original spirit of the sound. Just a short time before the shooting of the TV special began, the show's musical directors Ian Frasier, Larry Grossman and scriptwriter Buzz Cohen held an emergency writing session on an old piano in the studio basement, and within an hour they'd whipped up this new counterpoint to Little Drummer Boy that they called Peace on Earth. And they presented it to Bowie, who loved it. And then after an hour of rehearsal, Being and Bowie ran the act for the cameras. Buzz Cohen would say that Being loved the challenge of the arrangement, saying that he was able to transform himself without losing any of his crosbyisms. For anyone who's actually seen the full clip of this and not just heard the song, there's a whole sketch and it's still too but I find it cute in a cross generational seventies Network TV special kind of way. In the skit, Being is an American visitor to a historic British home, and Bowie lives down the street, and he drops by to use the owner of the house's piano, and Bowie recognizes Bing and says, you're the guy who sings right, And these two guys have a moment where they compare holiday traditions. It's a real bridging the generation gap kind of thing. And then they gathered by the piano and start rifling through a pile of Christmas Carol sheet music, and David earnestly claims that he likes all music, including old timers like John Lennon and Harry Nilsen. O great, great inside joke there, and he plucks out the sheet music for Little Drummer Boy. He says that it's his son's favorite. Whichever one of my sons it is. Did he only have Duncan at that point or he only had Zoey or Zowie whoever? He said it back then at the time that he was known then, No, no, it's the same guy. But oh the guy who later made Moon Warcraft. Oh yeah, yeah, he was knowing Zoe Zoe Bowie. That was Zowie Bowie. Your mileage, my very tomato tomato, Zowie Bowie. Let's make a beautiful salad. You always sing that I've never heard that from anyone, But you have no idea, dude, I have no idea where that's from. That's like deep in the recesses of my reptile brain. Tomato, tomato, potato, potato, let's make a beautiful salad. I thought it was just let's call the whole thing off. Maybe I mean, I like your version better. I've just never heard it. Thank you. I hope to record it with Bing Crosby. One day I got some magic of AI.

Yeah, according to Bing's kids, producers took David aside and gently requested that he wipe off his makeup and remove the earring, and he duly complied. Crosby son Nathaniel would recall the appearance almost didn't happen. I think the producers told him to take the lipstick off and take the earring out. It was just incredible to see the contrast. Yeah, you mentioned that They claimed that he showed up with his wife, Angie, but at this time they were really on the outs and they would be divorced, I think by the end of the year, so it's really unlikely that she showed up there with him, which kind of throws this whole story in the question. Well, it might not have been Angie who showed up in that length. Okay, good point, good point. But yes, as you mentioned, there was a bigger problem on the horizon than David Bowie's attire. The original plan was for Being and Bowie to perform a duet of The Little Drummer Boy, but when David arrived, he announced I hate this song? Is there something else I could sing? Which is such a classic bit of yes, this has been in the works for weeks now, and nobody for me. If nobody told you, or you didn't look at the one cheat we gave you, and now here you are. One of the script writers would later say that Bowie felt the song quote wasn't a good showcase for his voice, and Bowie doubled down by saying, if I have to sing that song, I can't do the show. Jordan, what would you do it with me? On a Christmas song? I would say, Baby, it's cold outside and you can beat whichever part you want so you can stay in and podcast, much to the original spirit of the sound. Just a short time before the shooting of the TV special began, the show's musical directors Ian Frasier, Larry Grossman and scriptwriter Buzz Cohen held an emergency writing session on an old piano in the studio basement, and within an hour they'd whipped up this new counterpoint to Little Drummer Boy that they called Peace on Earth. And they presented it to Bowie, who loved it. And then after an hour of rehearsal, Being and Bowie ran the act for the cameras. Buzz Cohen would say that Being loved the challenge of the arrangement, saying that he was able to transform himself without losing any of his crosbyisms. For anyone who's actually seen the full clip of this and not just heard the song, there's a whole sketch and it's still too but I find it cute in a cross generational seventies Network TV special kind of way. In the skit, Being is an American visitor to a historic British home, and Bowie lives down the street, and he drops by to use the owner of the house's piano, and Bowie recognizes Bing and says, you're the guy who sings right, And these two guys have a moment where they compare holiday traditions. It's a real bridging the generation gap kind of thing. And then they gathered by the piano and start rifling through a pile of Christmas Carol sheet music, and David earnestly claims that he likes all music, including old timers like John Lennon and Harry Nilsen. O great, great inside joke there, and he plucks out the sheet music for Little Drummer Boy. He says that it's his son's favorite. Whichever one of my sons it is. Did he only have Duncan at that point or he only had Zoey or Zowie whoever? He said it back then at the time that he was known then, No, no, it's the same guy. But oh the guy who later made Moon Warcraft. Oh yeah, yeah, he was knowing Zoe Zoe Bowie. That was Zowie Bowie. Your mileage, my very tomato tomato, Zowie Bowie. Let's make a beautiful salad. You always sing that I've never heard that from anyone, But you have no idea, dude, I have no idea where that's from. That's like deep in the recesses of my reptile brain. Tomato, tomato, potato, potato, let's make a beautiful salad. I thought it was just let's call the whole thing off. Maybe I mean, I like your version better. I've just never heard it. Thank you. I hope to record it with Bing Crosby. One day I got some magic of AI.

And then one day an AI replica of Bing Crosby will beat me with a sack of Valencia oranges as he did to his children, because it won't leave a bruise.

And then one day an AI replica of Bing Crosby will beat me with a sack of Valencia oranges as he did to his children, because it won't leave a bruise.

You mentioned the Tupac hologram out of Bing Crosby hologram and a Bowie hologram.

You mentioned the Tupac hologram out of Bing Crosby hologram and a Bowie hologram.

Oh my god, that would get so racist so fast. He'd be like, he'd like, Samay Davids Junior, what are you doing?

Oh my god, that would get so racist so fast. He'd be like, he'd like, Samay Davids Junior, what are you doing?

I love it. We all agreed that that's how Bing talks, even though I'm pretty sure that's not how Big talks. But like that's everybody's impression of Bing.

I love it. We all agreed that that's how Bing talks, even though I'm pretty sure that's not how Big talks. But like that's everybody's impression of Bing.

You can beat him with osaka, sweet Valenzia olunges and I won't leave a bruise like that.

You can beat him with osaka, sweet Valenzia olunges and I won't leave a bruise like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A few days after the taping, Bing praised Bowie as quote a clean cut kid and a real fine asset to the show. He sings well, has a great voice and reads lines well. Translation, yeah you can read. Didn't really expect that, Yeah right, I don't know. I find it to be an undeniably sweet performance. Even though Bowie himself would call the appearance quote ludicrous in later years, it is quite cute. There's a certain undeniable chemistry that they have where they both are clearly like radiating why am I here? Like what is going on? What are the circumstances of my life that led me to sing next to this man? But they're kind of both also selling it. Yeah yeah, to me, it's up there with the Sinatra Elvis duit in nineteen sixty on his Welcome Home Special. With these two guys that you get the sense that there was a lot of like words said in private beforehand against one another, but they somehow, like you said, they make it work in the moment, and you get the sense that they like each other more than they would have thought because they're professionals. Baby, right, that's why But yeah, Bowie, he would later say, we were so totally out of touch with each other. I was wondering if he was still alive. He was just not there. He was really not there at all. He looked like a little old orange sitting on a stool because he'd been made up heavily and there was just nobody home at all. You know. It was the most bizarre experience. So that's one take on it. That was his later era take. It's interesting to know that Bowie's take on the experience in nineteen seventy eight, shortly after the special aired, was much softer. He said Crosby was fantastic. That old man knew everything about everything. He knew rock and roll backwards, even if he didn't know the music. I'm glad I met him. So yeah, two very distinct takes from Bowie. He might have been really nice in nineteen seventy eight because this was just after Bing had died. In fact, Bing was dead by the time the special aired that Christmas, which kind of adds a whole weird flavor to a Christmas special from a beloved entertainer. I love Christmas specials that are touched with death. Judy Garland is the most famous. You know, what's her Christmas special or just the worsd of it. It's like Lynchian, dude, it's all this like fake posed stuff with Liza and the kids. But it oh that this has this undeniable rro like the Queen in her decline and oh it's grim I forgot about that. Yeah, if you want to watch it, if you're looking for something to watch with your parents, you should cast the Judy Garling Christmas Specialty TV. But yeah, Bing died a month after his shoot with Bowie. He suffered a massive heart attack on a Spanish golf course. His last words were famously to me, at least that was a great game of golf, fellas, let's go have a Coca cola. And he collapsed about twenty yards from the clubhouse entrance and died instantly. Do you think Coke paid him for that? Can you have your last word? Sponsored? Wait, this gets even weirder because Mark Boland died in a car crash a week after Bowie appeared on his show around the same time, and Bowie later commented on this quizident, saying, I was getting seriously worried about whether I should appear on TV because everyone I was going on with was kicking it the following week, kicking it in the farm sense and not hanging out with your bros, not I trib quest sense.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A few days after the taping, Bing praised Bowie as quote a clean cut kid and a real fine asset to the show. He sings well, has a great voice and reads lines well. Translation, yeah you can read. Didn't really expect that, Yeah right, I don't know. I find it to be an undeniably sweet performance. Even though Bowie himself would call the appearance quote ludicrous in later years, it is quite cute. There's a certain undeniable chemistry that they have where they both are clearly like radiating why am I here? Like what is going on? What are the circumstances of my life that led me to sing next to this man? But they're kind of both also selling it. Yeah yeah, to me, it's up there with the Sinatra Elvis duit in nineteen sixty on his Welcome Home Special. With these two guys that you get the sense that there was a lot of like words said in private beforehand against one another, but they somehow, like you said, they make it work in the moment, and you get the sense that they like each other more than they would have thought because they're professionals. Baby, right, that's why But yeah, Bowie, he would later say, we were so totally out of touch with each other. I was wondering if he was still alive. He was just not there. He was really not there at all. He looked like a little old orange sitting on a stool because he'd been made up heavily and there was just nobody home at all. You know. It was the most bizarre experience. So that's one take on it. That was his later era take. It's interesting to know that Bowie's take on the experience in nineteen seventy eight, shortly after the special aired, was much softer. He said Crosby was fantastic. That old man knew everything about everything. He knew rock and roll backwards, even if he didn't know the music. I'm glad I met him. So yeah, two very distinct takes from Bowie. He might have been really nice in nineteen seventy eight because this was just after Bing had died. In fact, Bing was dead by the time the special aired that Christmas, which kind of adds a whole weird flavor to a Christmas special from a beloved entertainer. I love Christmas specials that are touched with death. Judy Garland is the most famous. You know, what's her Christmas special or just the worsd of it. It's like Lynchian, dude, it's all this like fake posed stuff with Liza and the kids. But it oh that this has this undeniable rro like the Queen in her decline and oh it's grim I forgot about that. Yeah, if you want to watch it, if you're looking for something to watch with your parents, you should cast the Judy Garling Christmas Specialty TV. But yeah, Bing died a month after his shoot with Bowie. He suffered a massive heart attack on a Spanish golf course. His last words were famously to me, at least that was a great game of golf, fellas, let's go have a Coca cola. And he collapsed about twenty yards from the clubhouse entrance and died instantly. Do you think Coke paid him for that? Can you have your last word? Sponsored? Wait, this gets even weirder because Mark Boland died in a car crash a week after Bowie appeared on his show around the same time, and Bowie later commented on this quizident, saying, I was getting seriously worried about whether I should appear on TV because everyone I was going on with was kicking it the following week, kicking it in the farm sense and not hanging out with your bros, not I trib quest sense.

Yeah, if if someone asks you can they kick it, you say yes they can, rather than the bing Crosby sense where he asks you can I kick it and you say, please God, not on the carpet.

Yeah, if if someone asks you can they kick it, you say yes they can, rather than the bing Crosby sense where he asks you can I kick it and you say, please God, not on the carpet.

The broadcast should have been the end of this hastily arranged song because it was essentially just a throwaway song for a one off TV special, and a tape of the recording was erased, but fervent Bowie fans swapped bootlegs, and five years after the broadcast, an official version of Little Drummer Boy slash Peace on Earth was released just in time for Christmas nineteen eighty two. It became one of Bowie's fastest selling and hilariously best selling singles ever in the UK, having sales over two hundred and fifty thousand within its first month of release. Damn being certified silver by the British Phonographic Industry one month later.

The broadcast should have been the end of this hastily arranged song because it was essentially just a throwaway song for a one off TV special, and a tape of the recording was erased, but fervent Bowie fans swapped bootlegs, and five years after the broadcast, an official version of Little Drummer Boy slash Peace on Earth was released just in time for Christmas nineteen eighty two. It became one of Bowie's fastest selling and hilariously best selling singles ever in the UK, having sales over two hundred and fifty thousand within its first month of release. Damn being certified silver by the British Phonographic Industry one month later.

Two hundred and fifty thousand in the first month is like, that's enough to get you a sophomore record in today's music industry. Yep, side though, I'm sure this is something you maybe know about, but if not, I'm really excited to tell you.

Two hundred and fifty thousand in the first month is like, that's enough to get you a sophomore record in today's music industry. Yep, side though, I'm sure this is something you maybe know about, but if not, I'm really excited to tell you.

Heigel, now hit me, I don't know anything about this. Did you know that? Bing Crosby played a pivotal role in popularizing tape recording in the mid twentieth century. In the forties, being sought greater flexibility in his radio show performances, which are typically broadcast live. All the radio executives said, you know, people really want to hear things live. That's part of what makes this medium special. They want to believe that what they're listening to is actually happening somewhere. Bing he didn't care. He wanted to be able to do it on his own time. He was dissatisfied, though, with the inconsistent quality of disc recordings, but he became interested in the emerging magnetic tape technology developed by German engineers during World War Two. Kind of makes sense that he would collaborate with the Nazis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In nineteen forty seven, bing Crosby was introduced to the Ampex Model two hundred, which is an early tape recorder that offered superior sound, fidelity and editing capabilities. Recognizing his potential, he invested fifty thousand dollars in Ampex, which is like, she's probably close to a million dollars today, helping the company refine and commercialize the technology. Crosby support was instrumental in introducing high quality tape recording to the American entertainment industry. He became the first performer to pre record his radio shows on tape, revolutionizing broadcasting by allowing seamless edits and precise scheduling. This innovation transformed how radio and eventually TV programs were produced. Imagine all these things having to be live. I mean, he was basically the one who said, no, we can do this all in advance and make it exactly right. That's pretty incredible. Crosby's adoption of tape recording catalyzed this widespread use in music, broadcasting and filmmaking, and its influence actually extended beyond entertainment because his investment in Ampex also spurred advances in tape technology, paving the way for multi track recording. Like we were just talking about with Les Paul and the modern music industry as a whole, and.

Heigel, now hit me, I don't know anything about this. Did you know that? Bing Crosby played a pivotal role in popularizing tape recording in the mid twentieth century. In the forties, being sought greater flexibility in his radio show performances, which are typically broadcast live. All the radio executives said, you know, people really want to hear things live. That's part of what makes this medium special. They want to believe that what they're listening to is actually happening somewhere. Bing he didn't care. He wanted to be able to do it on his own time. He was dissatisfied, though, with the inconsistent quality of disc recordings, but he became interested in the emerging magnetic tape technology developed by German engineers during World War Two. Kind of makes sense that he would collaborate with the Nazis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In nineteen forty seven, bing Crosby was introduced to the Ampex Model two hundred, which is an early tape recorder that offered superior sound, fidelity and editing capabilities. Recognizing his potential, he invested fifty thousand dollars in Ampex, which is like, she's probably close to a million dollars today, helping the company refine and commercialize the technology. Crosby support was instrumental in introducing high quality tape recording to the American entertainment industry. He became the first performer to pre record his radio shows on tape, revolutionizing broadcasting by allowing seamless edits and precise scheduling. This innovation transformed how radio and eventually TV programs were produced. Imagine all these things having to be live. I mean, he was basically the one who said, no, we can do this all in advance and make it exactly right. That's pretty incredible. Crosby's adoption of tape recording catalyzed this widespread use in music, broadcasting and filmmaking, and its influence actually extended beyond entertainment because his investment in Ampex also spurred advances in tape technology, paving the way for multi track recording. Like we were just talking about with Les Paul and the modern music industry as a whole, and.

I want to say that Alan Lomax took an Ampex tape recorder on his Southern journey, So in a way, he bing Crosby, who is surely racist and in hell and in hell, paved the way for basically one of the people who broke the concept of Southern Black American music to the rest of the country.

I want to say that Alan Lomax took an Ampex tape recorder on his Southern journey, So in a way, he bing Crosby, who is surely racist and in hell and in hell, paved the way for basically one of the people who broke the concept of Southern Black American music to the rest of the country.

How much you think that chapped his ass? Boy, it was like withered hand clawing out of like a hell crater, like give me back the impects. Is that nuts? Though? I didn't mean you could use it to tape black folks. Uh? Was he really racist? I don't know. I just kind of those eyes. I kind of assumed, yeah, yeah.

How much you think that chapped his ass? Boy, it was like withered hand clawing out of like a hell crater, like give me back the impects. Is that nuts? Though? I didn't mean you could use it to tape black folks. Uh? Was he really racist? I don't know. I just kind of those eyes. I kind of assumed, yeah, yeah.

As you meditate on that, we'll be right back with more too much information after these messages. Did you have a segue or should I just plow right into this. I don't have a sick quite No.

As you meditate on that, we'll be right back with more too much information after these messages. Did you have a segue or should I just plow right into this. I don't have a sick quite No.

Great Philly's Navidad pferano e. I want to wish you a merry Christmas, felicidad, I want to wish you a merry Christmas.

Great Philly's Navidad pferano e. I want to wish you a merry Christmas, felicidad, I want to wish you a merry Christmas.

Alana isumemericus. Anyway, I know that this is another song with a kind of melancholic undertone to it. Jose Feliciana was born in Puerto Rico and moved with his family to New York when he was five, where he grew up in Spanish Harlem. By nineteen seventy though, he was a successful recording artist, and he recalled to The New Yorker that he and his producer Rick Gerard were at Feliciano's place in California. They were planning a holiday album, and Girod said that there hadn't been a huge Christmas song since Brenda Lee's rocking around the Christmas Tree. Yo didn't put much thought or effort into their attempt at a iconic Christmas song. He missed his family in New York, and inspired by memories of their Christmases together, he penned Philis Navidad in ten minutes, telling The New Yorker that's why it's the simplest song ever written. It contains a total of nineteen words, six in Spanish phileis Navidad, prospero annoy pelicidad and thirteen in English. I want to wish you a merry Christmas from the bottom of my heart, over and over and over again. He and Gerard then recorded the tune at RCA Studios on Sunset Boulevard Baby in a single take.