Ilsa Wakeling is an Acting Superintendent with Victoria Police. She joins Helen McCabe to discuss the challenges of rising through the ranks in a male-dominated field. She also lays out how, in her new role, she’s paving a better path for the women following her lead - and the lessons she learned from being labelled “too unwell”.

BONUS: Career pivot playbook: To jump or not to jump?
15:48

8. Melanie Silva was "too excited": then Google made it her strength
32:05

7. Pamela Naidoo-Ameglio was "too quiet": listening powered her leadership from mines to nuclear
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