This podcast exclusive interview is the full version of our interview with Joel Berry, the managing editor of The Babylon Bee and author of The Postmodern Pilgrim's Progress.

This podcast exclusive interview is the full version of our interview with Joel Berry, the managing editor of The Babylon Bee and author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Postmodern-Pilgrims-Progress-Allegorical-Tale/dp/1684512751">The Postmodern Pilgrim's Progress</a>.

Tony Kinnett is an investigative columnist for The Daily Signal and a former award-winning teacher and administrator and served as the junior education policy for Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

He regularly appears on Fox News and Newsmax, and has written for The Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, National Review, Fox News, Daily Wire, RealClear Education, and Chalkboard Review.

Tony Kinnett is an investigative columnist for The Daily Signal and a former award-winning teacher and administrator and served as the junior education policy for Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin.
He regularly appears on Fox News and Newsmax, and has written for The Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, National Review, Fox News, Daily Wire, RealClear Education, and Chalkboard Review.

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