We are joined by Dr. Keiki Kawaiʻaeʻa, Interim Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and former director of Ka Haka ‘Ula O Ke‘elikōlani College of Hawaiian Language at the University of Hawaiʻi at Hilo. She shares her language journey, and then we talk about the elements that may have made the Hawaiian language movement successful. We also talk about strategies and trying to determine when you decolonize existing systems and when you create your own pathways within those systems, and how to move from teaching about, to teaching of, to teaching through Indigenous languages. Dr. Keiki also shares her views on how to create and maintain safe environments for language learning and to not give up when things are difficult. Learn more about Hawaiian language programs at www.olelo.hawaii.edu, www.ahapunanaleo.org, and www.nawahi.org.