Thurl Bailey is joined by Saul Bailey (retired Lt.) to talk about his experiences of dealing with discrimination at a young age and how it shaped him as a young man, as well as the importance of helping your community and how it ultimately led to him to becoming a police officer.

We also dive into how being exposed to all levels of diversity at a young age helped Saul have a better understanding of those around him that aided him throughout his entire career.

Lastly, we touch on how to fix relations between police and our communities but how to look deeper into the rifts that have been causing systematic issues all throughout history and how we can always do better.