I'm Will Fulton, and this is Thrilliest Explorers in October. In the year two thousand, I was in grade school. I think I was learning about the War of eighteen twelve, but obviously that's not important. What I do remember very clearly is sitting in front of the TV, somewhere far away from the inevitably disapproving gaze of my parents, and watching Jackass for the first time. There were goldfish, swallowed private parts, Taser, and eventually, as you almost definitely know, that TV show spun into three extremely popular, very successful movies. Up ahead have got ton of Bees. This week, twelve years after the last movie premiered, the Jackass cast, now in their forties and early fifties, returned with the aptly titled Jackass Forever. O'll welcome to Jacket. In this episode, we're going to speak with one of the film stars, the multi hyphen it mononym Stuntman Supreme Stevo himself. We're gonna talk about the new movie and passing the torch to some newer, younger cast members, and since this is a travel show, we'll segue into discussion about Stevo's travel centric Jackass spinoff, Wild Boys. The pretty gross way he used to smuggle drugs into other countries, and how he recently almost got arrested at one of our nation's most beloved national monuments. And then at the end of the show, we're gonna check in with Esther Zuckerman Thrill, a senior entertainment writer who's gonna give her thoughts on the new movie. But for stuff, Steve, Oh, let's jump right into it. You know, I was lucky enough to see the new movie a couple of nights ago, and it is just so hilarious and fun and endearing. As a longtime fan, is exactly what I wanted to see in a Jackass movie, and as a human being, it's just exactly what I want to see right now. Well, dude, thank you for the kind words. Thank you for watching as a dedicated attention to horror. That's like music to my ears. Could you introduce us to um your partner over there that you have to be petting right now. Yeah, this is Wendy from Peru. I've found her in the streets of Peru. Now we've been living out here in the mountains for like two and a half weeks. I love this dog so much, and I made this wonderful video about how we fell in love and Peru, and then I brought her home with me to America, and that video got more reviews than any video I've ever put on the internet. Okay, so quick note from me. If you have not seen the video about Wendy from Peru, you should go check it out immediately. There is a link in our description. It's incredibly endearing. Stevo finds this dog in the street, and since she can't stay in his hotel, he sleeps in a tent with her outside for a few days. It's great, but I can say the fact that her video outperformed anything I've ever done in my life fucking felt like a kick in the teeth. Would you've had some kicks in the teeth? Yeah, exactly after the lenks have gone to for views. The fact that I couldn't do ship better than rescue a goddamn dog really stings. So speaking of co stars, one thing that's immediately different in Jackass Forever from the rest of the franchise are the new cast members. Who are, you know, for the record, hilarious and wildly charming and totally just fit in with the chemistry of the rest of the group. I think that you know, and you even joke about this in the movie. How now there are new younger bodies that could take some of the punishment and takes some of the pressure off. But I want to ask you if you maybe have a little bit of fomo about not always being the person going the hardest, um doing all the stunts. Well, I mean absolutely, and I'll never forget. You know, early on, when it was still a question mark about whether or not we were going to do this, it was an idea, but we weren't committed to it. You know, we all got together for a dinner and we had a private room in this restaurant. It was all the original cast members, and Knoxville surfaced his intentions to have new younger cast members introduced. And I can tell you that the universal consensus among all of us was, what the funk a you talking about? Dude? You know, like we were very resistant to the idea. We uh did not love it. And and yeah, you can call it fomo, you know, I call it just uh, you know, attention horrors, not wanting to share the spotlight. But uh, we pushed back, We tried to, uh to resist it, but as has been the case with every creative decision which Johnny Knoxville, Jeff Tremaine and Spike Jones arrived at, you know, as a consensus, they were right. You know, they've always been right, the three of them. When they put their heads together and agree on a final decision, it's always the right decision. And um, as much as we tried to dislike the new cast members, that was frankly impossible. As soon as we met them. We got to the set and and two things were having it right away that it felt like we had never stopped. The chemistry is very much alive and well, and that the newcast tremors were just so honored and enthusiastic and and just fucking thrilled to be there that it was impossible not to fall in love with them. Yeah. Well, you know that isn't to say that you didn't do your fair share of stunts in the movie. I think pretty early on your genitals get covered with a swarm of bees. I have to tell you that kind of triggered me because one of my first memories ever was my third birthday party and I got stung on the dick by a wasp. It flew up right up, my oshkosh bagosh is so I definitely feel your pain there, you know, getting stitches, breaking bones, those things heal. But when you put your dick and balls on the line, I mean, was there ever a point where you were thinking, you know, not just in any of the movies or the series, I'm about to lose my genitals right now. What what's the highest dick risk you've ever taken? Man, mm hmm. The very first day for me on the set of Jackass Forever, the very first bit was four of us standing up on a scaffolding like maybe eight ft tall, and we had full bricks tied to our wieners and our job was to drop the brick, and for two of us the string was too short, and I mean you like, there was a real question like, man, is this gonna rip my dick off? Like that was a super scary one. And for us to just be like, okay, this is what we're doing. One to three go and dropped the brick like that was a real morale booster and the like we still have this in us, you know. And then of course I had all the bees on my dick, and those bees man like, I made a pro model skateboard and I signed every one of them too. You can get him at stevo dot com. How they're they're actually the America Collapse. Yeah, super doope quality and yeah, I mean just throwing it out there there at stevo dot com. Alright, so just to note the dick the skateboard is actually pretty funny. It's LinkedIn our description if you want to check it out. I have been watching you, uh and your penis kind of for literally two thirds of my life. And while you you didn't inspire me to do things like cover my taint and Africanized bees, but one thing you truly did do, honestly, is stoke my interest in travel. And I really do mean that. I wanted to go to Europe and do the Gunball three thousand. I wanted to go to South Africa and India and Russia like you and Chris did. And Wild Boys, thank you brother. In case you don't know, Wild Boys was a Jackass spinoff on MTV in the Earth the two thousand's Stevo and fellow cast member Chris Pontius traveled the world, interacted with local culture and customs, and did a ton of stunts featuring regional wildlife. I used to think bird watching is for total dorks, and it is, but the birds and beliefs are so beautiful. Way. I mean, this gig has allowed you to go all over the world. I want to ask you, what is the place that you were able to visit over the years that actually just kind of opened up your mind a little bit where you were like, I never would have thought to come here, but now that I'm here, it's amazing, and this is just an amazing opportunity, you know, Like the Wild Boys era, that chapter of my life was just so rich and like experience and uh world travel, and and I kind of think that it all blends together a little because it was just so much going on all at once, and I think I was at a point in my life like where I wasn't um capable of really appreciating it. I think that, uh that I that I appreciate things a lot more now at this stage in my life because from what I remember most from Wild Boys is like being frustrated that I couldn't get a burger king whopper. You know, I've been this like amazing like exotic country, having like unbelievably unique experiences and i'd just be piste off that I didn't have weed and fast food. I know that you've been sober for more than a decade, and congrats in that that's amazing. But you know, I know that you were not shy talking about your previous drug use, and I wanted to ask you, Um, I smoked a little bit of weed when I was in Thailand, and it might have been the worst thing I've ever smoked. In your opinion, what country had the worst weed? I mean, it was pretty bad everywhere, you know, like and if you're in the Eastern Hemisphere, then not only can you count on it being bad weed, but it's like strong likelihood that the punishment for having anything to do with weed is extremely severe, if not capital punishment. So I developed a habit of smuggling weed with me whenever I went to the Eastern Hemisphere, and to do that, I would grind it up. I would pack it into a condom like wrote pretty tight, so I would have about an eighth and it was pretty small, and I would tie the condiment and not and then swallow it. I would actually swallow like up to five of them, and uh then fly through Singapore, where they have the death penalty for drug trafficking. And then when I arrived at my destination, whether it was Thailand, India, Indonesia, then I would like be digging through my poop and that should always come out, and I would, you know, I dig it out of my proof and then um, I'd let the guys know that that the eagle had landed, that we had ask grass and uh, you know, I always going to kick out of sharing the weed with people because you know, they were smoking my ship. Yeah, there is the ship and it's hard to get over there. So I'm sure everyone else appreciate the pain that you went through. That would smuggle weed through Singapore and then dig it out of my ship is an indication that there was an addiction issue there. Yeah, they're gonna take this clip and put it on Dare. We're talking about Wild Boys, which I think, in particular was actually surprisingly great at showing other cultures and actually not making fun of them. But you know, you and Chris just diving head first into things that might make us as American travelers a little bit uncomfortable. Have have you and Chris ever talked about getting back on the road and making a travel show together It's always been very important to us to not be mean spirited, you know, and with Wild Boys, we were we consider ourselves ambassadors of goodwill, you know, like never would we ever want to uh make fun of people or make them h upset them, or or make them uncomfortable. So that's something that I'm proud of. And I think that that extends beyond Wild Boys into like all of the you know, jackass installments, that the spirit of it is is so so good and and and really wholesome, I would say, And then do we ever want to go back with the question, Yeah, I mean, I definitely wouldn't want to return to filming Wild Boys because, particularly with uh, with the animals, I'm so much more sensitive about animal rights. And also like at this point in my life to taking real risks like putt, Like, I mean, risking my life isn't as uh as appealing to me anymore, you know. And and and it was on a Wild Boys specifically that uh that I risked my life the most. All the encounters with the big cats and and the sharks and and the venomous reptiles you know, like the bears, Like, there were a lot of situations that we could have died in and you know, for us to revisit that now, I just wouldn't be I wouldn't be willing to take those risks anymore, and I wouldn't um have the stomach to participate in exploiting animals like that. Okay, we're going to take a very quick break, but when we get back, Stevo shares one of his re and travel stories, which naturally involved a run in with local law enforcement. Stick around. I know, even recently, a few weeks ago, you climbed to the top of the Lincoln Memorial. I've been to the Lincoln Memorial pretty recently and it's very climbable. I actually think you should be able to do that, make history a little interactive for the kids. But you know what was going through your mind and what happened after and while you were doing that. Wow, it was like one o'clock in the morning. I had just done a show and my girl wanted to go sight seeing in d C. So we went over to the Washington Monument, the Capitol Building. We were walking around, we came to the Lincoln Memorial and I knew very little about it. You know, it was lit up one in the morning, like, I had no idea that anybody would be there, you know. I just saw that they had this little it was roped off by a rope that was like literally one ft off the ground. Yeah, and it had a sign and said like please stay off or something, you know. And I said to my girl, looks. I said, you know, if you're gonna commit a crime, you have to be prepared to accept the punishment. And in this case, I feel strongly that whatever the punishment is, I'm I'm willing to accept it. So, like I handed her my phone to film me climbing up, and you know, I climbed up, uh somewhat easily. It was actually uh, I didn't look that cool doing it, but like I did get up on top and uh there. I Almost as soon as I got up on top, I realized that off to the side of the statue is a door which at all times around the clock has uh police officer on duty behind it. So I make it up on the door opens, this cop walks over and just motions for me to get down. As soon as I get down, he puts the handcuffs on me, and I'm under arrest, you know. Uh. He walks over and he leads me over to the side um and he told me that Donald Trump had passed a statue climbing law which made it a federal offense for me to climb up on the Lincoln Memorial and that this federal offense came with a ten years in prison, you know, up to ten years in prison. And in addition, the FBI is investigating hundreds of people throughout the country for what they've done to monument statues. And ten years that's a long time. Like every arrest I've ever had in my illustrious criminal record has always been i'd say, very beneficial to me. That's what I believe. You know, my prop this, this this is what I'm sure would disagree. But I've enjoyed all the attention that my arrests have gotten me. And then the police officer said, you know, with all that, you know, despite all that, I am going to let you go. But I'm telling you right now, like you know, it was like, I'm letting you go with the warning, but if I see the if I see photos or video online of you climbing that statue, I'm going to issue a federal warrant for your And I thought, all right, you know, and I kind of chewed on it. I sat on the footage for a few weeks, and then I thought, all right, I'll animate it, you know, I'll animate it and right on it the precise frame where I jump off the statue and I'm no longer on it, We'll kick back into the real footage. Said that it couldn't be more evident that, uh, that that's what happened. And I don't even think it was animated. I think it was just some like schlocky filter but on the thing that kind of cartoonifies it a little bit. Macuse a little Stevo jumping around the statue, ye right, And in hindsight, and I think that that was really careful on my part. I think that, uh, you know, I asked myself, why didn't I just put the footage out? You know, I mean, I guess I guess I could answer that myself and say that like it would have been uh like deliberately disrespectful to do that. But the reason why I even thought to ask myself that question is because clearly I'm disappointed that I did not get a federal warrant issued from because I missed out on so many headlines Oh, definitely, that would be everywhere if you listen. If you ever want to send the video to thrill List, our social team would totally take it. But we don't want you to arrested obviously. I mean, I don't know, like what would really be the thing, you know, like like if I did, uh do that? You know, like I just can't imagine that they would really want to pursue the issue because it would just be so ridiculous to to. You know, I've heard a bunch of taxpayer money to prosecrate devote for climbing up on a fucking statue. You're like, that's a monument though, you know, I have to say this devote. Despite all of the like admittedly dumb stuff that you guys have done over the years, I think, litt looking back, surprisingly, in a lot of ways, you and the Jackass team represent the opposite of what people might call toxic masculinity. You embrace camaraderie, You're super open minded, in touch with your emotions, and I think that over the years you have really kind of turned in This is weird to say, but like kind of a role model for people like me. You have grown up watching you guys what do you think about that when you know, when someone says that to you, Because I'm sure I'm not the first person to express this. I mean, hey, dude, I'm grateful for the kind words and and thank you for for saying that. My initial reaction is UH to think that, UM, yeah, very much lead a double life, you know, and and uh, in one role I could be very much viewed as a role model. I suppose you know, UM, I've made a practice of going about my life that I think involves a lot of integrity. You know, I'm rigorously honest. I'm mindful to be considerate of others for the most part. You know, I'm not I've never deliberately malicious or or or or anything like that. So yeah, I mean I get it. Like, UM, I think that over the years, and certainly you know, as a guy in recovery, I've learned how to utilize tools to um to improve my life and my behavior. So yeah, if anybody wanted to call me a role model, I wouldn't be mad at them, you know, am I am I motivated. I don't do anything so that I can be a role model. I think that would be a terrible motivation, Like guy. I just want to be happy with who I am and that's enough for me. But that's just one role. And then the other role is the guy who uh you know, breaks bones and shoves things up as butt and I'm very comfortable with that too. Definitely. Well, thank you for embodying both of those roles for all of us out there and a big fan Stevo. Love the movie. I think everyone should go see it, and thank you so much for your time. Come back anytime you want to really appreciate it. Hey, dude, thank you for letting me obnoxiously plug my new bees pro modal skateboard and my knees collaps. Stevo shoes, get it out. They look beautiful. Let's through the tour up there to man, I'm on the bucket List tour and it's nuts. All of those things Stevo shamelessly plugged are in our descriptions, so check them out. Okay, switching gears a little bit, We're going to talk to Esther Zuckerman, Thrillist senior entertainment writer and noted Jackass enthusiast about her thoughts on the new film that's happening right now, probably like a month before the Pandemic. My boyfriend and I, UM, I had never seen the movies. He was a long time obsessive. There was sort of a conversation about it happening online and we decided one Saturday just to watch all three of them back to back. As soon as I watched them, I became really obsessed, and I wrote a piece four Realist about how I was a recent convert and yeah, just the obsession spiraled from there. It's been twelve years since jack as three D, and I have to say, seeing Chris Pineus's junk in pretty much the first seat of the movie, it was like seeing Han Solo again in The Force Awakens. I was like, I feel great, they're back. But you know, I wanted to ask you, how do you think this sequel stacks up with the rest of the franchise and continues the legacy of Jackass, and I guess potentially caps it off, as there's been some chatter that this will be the last installment. Maybe yeah, I mean I think it'd be hard for them to go forward. I mean, Johnny got seriously injured by the bowl stone in this one. Um, they are in their fifties. I think it does a really good job. You know, we're living in the age of reboots and sequels to things long, and you know there's a sense that, like, can this really recapture some of the magic? Obviously there there's sadness associated with that. Ryan Donna is no longer with us, um Bam Marja is not a part of the group anymore for various legal reasons. There's a trepidation that, like, is this going to feel you know, weird. I actually just spoke to Johnny Knoxville for a piece UM and I think the word he used, I might be paraphrasing, was like sweaty is just gonna feel like awkward and sweaty, And it really doesn't. That's sort of the sort of amazing thing. They do a good job of incorporating new cast members. Um they have five new cast members without it feeling, you know, sort of like a full passing of the torch. It's still they're the original crew is still getting tortured, just as my Jeff, not more so than the new people. But you know, filling it out with some younger people whose bodies might not be quite as damaged by some of the things they're doing. But it really was I mean, I was laughing, you know, NonStop, smiling ear to ear like the whole time. Was definitely and I loved My My biggest trepidation coming in as someone who has been a fan a long time was the new cast members. It was like, you know, the one thing I really love about Jackass, beyond the stunts, beyond everything stupid and hilarious they do, is just the feeling of being with friends and then being friends and hanging out and that chemistry they have. But I feel like they didn't miss a beat. The newcast were just like super hilarious and wildly charming and is great. Yeah, so I talked. I also talked to Jeff Jamaine for a story, and he was saying that like, you know, they weren't looking for people who were like the gnarliest people. They were looking for people who they'd want to hang out with, because that's so much of the ethos of Jackasses. Like, yes, people are putting themselves to the ringer, but like the actual core a group and there are you know, they torture danger errand and there's like really badly in this movie, and they're you know, they are making fun of each other, but like at the root of it is like a deep love for one another and they wanted to find people who they just wanted to hang out with. Yeah, well still, you know, I know that we have a lot of coverage coming out about the new movie, a lot written by you. Do you want to talk a little bit about you know what we can see on through list right now for people who are interested in the new movie. So we're gonna have a bunch of stuff. UM. I have a sort of introduction to the new cast member that that's out. I'm also writing a piece on the sort of the cinematic legacy of Jackass. I think Jackass is one of those things that, like you sort of I mean, it was my introduction to it too, like you sort of think of it, you know as like just Rose being Rose, dudes being dudes. But it is hugely respected in like the cinophile community. UM. This Thursday, when this episode comes out, there's some marathon screening at the Museum of the Moving Image. Actually, jack As CD premiered at MoMA. UM and the Jackass guys are official artists in MoMA's archive, and they've been screen like repertory screenings around UM New York and elsewhere that are really you know, the cinephiles love Jackass and so it's a piece about that. And then I have an interview with Johnny Knoxville coming up, um, which was very fun. So yeah, I think you can read all of that stuff on thrill list dot com. Well, I appreciate thank you for sharing your thoughts and I'm glad you know, um you came on to talk about Jackass. I will always be willing to talk about Jackass with you if you ever need someone. Yes, yes, definitely, Okay, thanks so big. Thanks to Esther And in addition to her ongoing Jackass coverage on thrill List, she also released a new book this month called Beyond the Best Dressed. It's an illustrated breakdown of ninety years of fashion at the Oscars. Check it out. We have a link in our description. The very funny Jackass Forever is in theaters right now, so go see it. And for the record, you can also find some old Wild Boys clips online. I highly suggest doing so. This show was produced by myself and be a fast, edited and mixed by the other worldly Dean White and Abbey Austria Special thanks to all of My boss is Jim Demiko Megan Kurgh, Brett Kushner, and Emily felt. That's it for us. Put your trade tables up, lead your shoes on, and we'll see you next week. By

I'm Will Fulton, and this is Thrilliest Explorers in October. In the year two thousand, I was in grade school. I think I was learning about the War of eighteen twelve, but obviously that's not important. What I do remember very clearly is sitting in front of the TV, somewhere far away from the inevitably disapproving gaze of my parents, and watching Jackass for the first time. There were goldfish, swallowed private parts, Taser, and eventually, as you almost definitely know, that TV show spun into three extremely popular, very successful movies. Up ahead have got ton of Bees. This week, twelve years after the last movie premiered, the Jackass cast, now in their forties and early fifties, returned with the aptly titled Jackass Forever. O'll welcome to Jacket. In this episode, we're going to speak with one of the film stars, the multi hyphen it mononym Stuntman Supreme Stevo himself. We're gonna talk about the new movie and passing the torch to some newer, younger cast members, and since this is a travel show, we'll segue into discussion about Stevo's travel centric Jackass spinoff, Wild Boys. The pretty gross way he used to smuggle drugs into other countries, and how he recently almost got arrested at one of our nation's most beloved national monuments. And then at the end of the show, we're gonna check in with Esther Zuckerman Thrill, a senior entertainment writer who's gonna give her thoughts on the new movie. But for stuff, Steve, Oh, let's jump right into it. You know, I was lucky enough to see the new movie a couple of nights ago, and it is just so hilarious and fun and endearing. As a longtime fan, is exactly what I wanted to see in a Jackass movie, and as a human being, it's just exactly what I want to see right now. Well, dude, thank you for the kind words. Thank you for watching as a dedicated attention to horror. That's like music to my ears. Could you introduce us to um your partner over there that you have to be petting right now. Yeah, this is Wendy from Peru. I've found her in the streets of Peru. Now we've been living out here in the mountains for like two and a half weeks. I love this dog so much, and I made this wonderful video about how we fell in love and Peru, and then I brought her home with me to America, and that video got more reviews than any video I've ever put on the internet. Okay, so quick note from me. If you have not seen the video about Wendy from Peru, you should go check it out immediately. There is a link in our description. It's incredibly endearing. Stevo finds this dog in the street, and since she can't stay in his hotel, he sleeps in a tent with her outside for a few days. It's great, but I can say the fact that her video outperformed anything I've ever done in my life fucking felt like a kick in the teeth. Would you've had some kicks in the teeth? Yeah, exactly after the lenks have gone to for views. The fact that I couldn't do ship better than rescue a goddamn dog really stings. So speaking of co stars, one thing that's immediately different in Jackass Forever from the rest of the franchise are the new cast members. Who are, you know, for the record, hilarious and wildly charming and totally just fit in with the chemistry of the rest of the group. I think that you know, and you even joke about this in the movie. How now there are new younger bodies that could take some of the punishment and takes some of the pressure off. But I want to ask you if you maybe have a little bit of fomo about not always being the person going the hardest, um doing all the stunts. Well, I mean absolutely, and I'll never forget. You know, early on, when it was still a question mark about whether or not we were going to do this, it was an idea, but we weren't committed to it. You know, we all got together for a dinner and we had a private room in this restaurant. It was all the original cast members, and Knoxville surfaced his intentions to have new younger cast members introduced. And I can tell you that the universal consensus among all of us was, what the funk a you talking about? Dude? You know, like we were very resistant to the idea. We uh did not love it. And and yeah, you can call it fomo, you know, I call it just uh, you know, attention horrors, not wanting to share the spotlight. But uh, we pushed back, We tried to, uh to resist it, but as has been the case with every creative decision which Johnny Knoxville, Jeff Tremaine and Spike Jones arrived at, you know, as a consensus, they were right. You know, they've always been right, the three of them. When they put their heads together and agree on a final decision, it's always the right decision. And um, as much as we tried to dislike the new cast members, that was frankly impossible. As soon as we met them. We got to the set and and two things were having it right away that it felt like we had never stopped. The chemistry is very much alive and well, and that the newcast tremors were just so honored and enthusiastic and and just fucking thrilled to be there that it was impossible not to fall in love with them. Yeah. Well, you know that isn't to say that you didn't do your fair share of stunts in the movie. I think pretty early on your genitals get covered with a swarm of bees. I have to tell you that kind of triggered me because one of my first memories ever was my third birthday party and I got stung on the dick by a wasp. It flew up right up, my oshkosh bagosh is so I definitely feel your pain there, you know, getting stitches, breaking bones, those things heal. But when you put your dick and balls on the line, I mean, was there ever a point where you were thinking, you know, not just in any of the movies or the series, I'm about to lose my genitals right now. What what's the highest dick risk you've ever taken? Man, mm hmm. The very first day for me on the set of Jackass Forever, the very first bit was four of us standing up on a scaffolding like maybe eight ft tall, and we had full bricks tied to our wieners and our job was to drop the brick, and for two of us the string was too short, and I mean you like, there was a real question like, man, is this gonna rip my dick off? Like that was a super scary one. And for us to just be like, okay, this is what we're doing. One to three go and dropped the brick like that was a real morale booster and the like we still have this in us, you know. And then of course I had all the bees on my dick, and those bees man like, I made a pro model skateboard and I signed every one of them too. You can get him at stevo dot com. How they're they're actually the America Collapse. Yeah, super doope quality and yeah, I mean just throwing it out there there at stevo dot com. Alright, so just to note the dick the skateboard is actually pretty funny. It's LinkedIn our description if you want to check it out. I have been watching you, uh and your penis kind of for literally two thirds of my life. And while you you didn't inspire me to do things like cover my taint and Africanized bees, but one thing you truly did do, honestly, is stoke my interest in travel. And I really do mean that. I wanted to go to Europe and do the Gunball three thousand. I wanted to go to South Africa and India and Russia like you and Chris did. And Wild Boys, thank you brother. In case you don't know, Wild Boys was a Jackass spinoff on MTV in the Earth the two thousand's Stevo and fellow cast member Chris Pontius traveled the world, interacted with local culture and customs, and did a ton of stunts featuring regional wildlife. I used to think bird watching is for total dorks, and it is, but the birds and beliefs are so beautiful. Way. I mean, this gig has allowed you to go all over the world. I want to ask you, what is the place that you were able to visit over the years that actually just kind of opened up your mind a little bit where you were like, I never would have thought to come here, but now that I'm here, it's amazing, and this is just an amazing opportunity, you know, Like the Wild Boys era, that chapter of my life was just so rich and like experience and uh world travel, and and I kind of think that it all blends together a little because it was just so much going on all at once, and I think I was at a point in my life like where I wasn't um capable of really appreciating it. I think that, uh that I that I appreciate things a lot more now at this stage in my life because from what I remember most from Wild Boys is like being frustrated that I couldn't get a burger king whopper. You know, I've been this like amazing like exotic country, having like unbelievably unique experiences and i'd just be piste off that I didn't have weed and fast food. I know that you've been sober for more than a decade, and congrats in that that's amazing. But you know, I know that you were not shy talking about your previous drug use, and I wanted to ask you, Um, I smoked a little bit of weed when I was in Thailand, and it might have been the worst thing I've ever smoked. In your opinion, what country had the worst weed? I mean, it was pretty bad everywhere, you know, like and if you're in the Eastern Hemisphere, then not only can you count on it being bad weed, but it's like strong likelihood that the punishment for having anything to do with weed is extremely severe, if not capital punishment. So I developed a habit of smuggling weed with me whenever I went to the Eastern Hemisphere, and to do that, I would grind it up. I would pack it into a condom like wrote pretty tight, so I would have about an eighth and it was pretty small, and I would tie the condiment and not and then swallow it. I would actually swallow like up to five of them, and uh then fly through Singapore, where they have the death penalty for drug trafficking. And then when I arrived at my destination, whether it was Thailand, India, Indonesia, then I would like be digging through my poop and that should always come out, and I would, you know, I dig it out of my proof and then um, I'd let the guys know that that the eagle had landed, that we had ask grass and uh, you know, I always going to kick out of sharing the weed with people because you know, they were smoking my ship. Yeah, there is the ship and it's hard to get over there. So I'm sure everyone else appreciate the pain that you went through. That would smuggle weed through Singapore and then dig it out of my ship is an indication that there was an addiction issue there. Yeah, they're gonna take this clip and put it on Dare. We're talking about Wild Boys, which I think, in particular was actually surprisingly great at showing other cultures and actually not making fun of them. But you know, you and Chris just diving head first into things that might make us as American travelers a little bit uncomfortable. Have have you and Chris ever talked about getting back on the road and making a travel show together It's always been very important to us to not be mean spirited, you know, and with Wild Boys, we were we consider ourselves ambassadors of goodwill, you know, like never would we ever want to uh make fun of people or make them h upset them, or or make them uncomfortable. So that's something that I'm proud of. And I think that that extends beyond Wild Boys into like all of the you know, jackass installments, that the spirit of it is is so so good and and and really wholesome, I would say, And then do we ever want to go back with the question, Yeah, I mean, I definitely wouldn't want to return to filming Wild Boys because, particularly with uh, with the animals, I'm so much more sensitive about animal rights. And also like at this point in my life to taking real risks like putt, Like, I mean, risking my life isn't as uh as appealing to me anymore, you know. And and and it was on a Wild Boys specifically that uh that I risked my life the most. All the encounters with the big cats and and the sharks and and the venomous reptiles you know, like the bears, Like, there were a lot of situations that we could have died in and you know, for us to revisit that now, I just wouldn't be I wouldn't be willing to take those risks anymore, and I wouldn't um have the stomach to participate in exploiting animals like that. Okay, we're going to take a very quick break, but when we get back, Stevo shares one of his re and travel stories, which naturally involved a run in with local law enforcement. Stick around. I know, even recently, a few weeks ago, you climbed to the top of the Lincoln Memorial. I've been to the Lincoln Memorial pretty recently and it's very climbable. I actually think you should be able to do that, make history a little interactive for the kids. But you know what was going through your mind and what happened after and while you were doing that. Wow, it was like one o'clock in the morning. I had just done a show and my girl wanted to go sight seeing in d C. So we went over to the Washington Monument, the Capitol Building. We were walking around, we came to the Lincoln Memorial and I knew very little about it. You know, it was lit up one in the morning, like, I had no idea that anybody would be there, you know. I just saw that they had this little it was roped off by a rope that was like literally one ft off the ground. Yeah, and it had a sign and said like please stay off or something, you know. And I said to my girl, looks. I said, you know, if you're gonna commit a crime, you have to be prepared to accept the punishment. And in this case, I feel strongly that whatever the punishment is, I'm I'm willing to accept it. So, like I handed her my phone to film me climbing up, and you know, I climbed up, uh somewhat easily. It was actually uh, I didn't look that cool doing it, but like I did get up on top and uh there. I Almost as soon as I got up on top, I realized that off to the side of the statue is a door which at all times around the clock has uh police officer on duty behind it. So I make it up on the door opens, this cop walks over and just motions for me to get down. As soon as I get down, he puts the handcuffs on me, and I'm under arrest, you know. Uh. He walks over and he leads me over to the side um and he told me that Donald Trump had passed a statue climbing law which made it a federal offense for me to climb up on the Lincoln Memorial and that this federal offense came with a ten years in prison, you know, up to ten years in prison. And in addition, the FBI is investigating hundreds of people throughout the country for what they've done to monument statues. And ten years that's a long time. Like every arrest I've ever had in my illustrious criminal record has always been i'd say, very beneficial to me. That's what I believe. You know, my prop this, this this is what I'm sure would disagree. But I've enjoyed all the attention that my arrests have gotten me. And then the police officer said, you know, with all that, you know, despite all that, I am going to let you go. But I'm telling you right now, like you know, it was like, I'm letting you go with the warning, but if I see the if I see photos or video online of you climbing that statue, I'm going to issue a federal warrant for your And I thought, all right, you know, and I kind of chewed on it. I sat on the footage for a few weeks, and then I thought, all right, I'll animate it, you know, I'll animate it and right on it the precise frame where I jump off the statue and I'm no longer on it, We'll kick back into the real footage. Said that it couldn't be more evident that, uh, that that's what happened. And I don't even think it was animated. I think it was just some like schlocky filter but on the thing that kind of cartoonifies it a little bit. Macuse a little Stevo jumping around the statue, ye right, And in hindsight, and I think that that was really careful on my part. I think that, uh, you know, I asked myself, why didn't I just put the footage out? You know, I mean, I guess I guess I could answer that myself and say that like it would have been uh like deliberately disrespectful to do that. But the reason why I even thought to ask myself that question is because clearly I'm disappointed that I did not get a federal warrant issued from because I missed out on so many headlines Oh, definitely, that would be everywhere if you listen. If you ever want to send the video to thrill List, our social team would totally take it. But we don't want you to arrested obviously. I mean, I don't know, like what would really be the thing, you know, like like if I did, uh do that? You know, like I just can't imagine that they would really want to pursue the issue because it would just be so ridiculous to to. You know, I've heard a bunch of taxpayer money to prosecrate devote for climbing up on a fucking statue. You're like, that's a monument though, you know, I have to say this devote. Despite all of the like admittedly dumb stuff that you guys have done over the years, I think, litt looking back, surprisingly, in a lot of ways, you and the Jackass team represent the opposite of what people might call toxic masculinity. You embrace camaraderie, You're super open minded, in touch with your emotions, and I think that over the years you have really kind of turned in This is weird to say, but like kind of a role model for people like me. You have grown up watching you guys what do you think about that when you know, when someone says that to you, Because I'm sure I'm not the first person to express this. I mean, hey, dude, I'm grateful for the kind words and and thank you for for saying that. My initial reaction is UH to think that, UM, yeah, very much lead a double life, you know, and and uh, in one role I could be very much viewed as a role model. I suppose you know, UM, I've made a practice of going about my life that I think involves a lot of integrity. You know, I'm rigorously honest. I'm mindful to be considerate of others for the most part. You know, I'm not I've never deliberately malicious or or or or anything like that. So yeah, I mean I get it. Like, UM, I think that over the years, and certainly you know, as a guy in recovery, I've learned how to utilize tools to um to improve my life and my behavior. So yeah, if anybody wanted to call me a role model, I wouldn't be mad at them, you know, am I am I motivated. I don't do anything so that I can be a role model. I think that would be a terrible motivation, Like guy. I just want to be happy with who I am and that's enough for me. But that's just one role. And then the other role is the guy who uh you know, breaks bones and shoves things up as butt and I'm very comfortable with that too. Definitely. Well, thank you for embodying both of those roles for all of us out there and a big fan Stevo. Love the movie. I think everyone should go see it, and thank you so much for your time. Come back anytime you want to really appreciate it. Hey, dude, thank you for letting me obnoxiously plug my new bees pro modal skateboard and my knees collaps. Stevo shoes, get it out. They look beautiful. Let's through the tour up there to man, I'm on the bucket List tour and it's nuts. All of those things Stevo shamelessly plugged are in our descriptions, so check them out. Okay, switching gears a little bit, We're going to talk to Esther Zuckerman, Thrillist senior entertainment writer and noted Jackass enthusiast about her thoughts on the new film that's happening right now, probably like a month before the Pandemic. My boyfriend and I, UM, I had never seen the movies. He was a long time obsessive. There was sort of a conversation about it happening online and we decided one Saturday just to watch all three of them back to back. As soon as I watched them, I became really obsessed, and I wrote a piece four Realist about how I was a recent convert and yeah, just the obsession spiraled from there. It's been twelve years since jack as three D, and I have to say, seeing Chris Pineus's junk in pretty much the first seat of the movie, it was like seeing Han Solo again in The Force Awakens. I was like, I feel great, they're back. But you know, I wanted to ask you, how do you think this sequel stacks up with the rest of the franchise and continues the legacy of Jackass, and I guess potentially caps it off, as there's been some chatter that this will be the last installment. Maybe yeah, I mean I think it'd be hard for them to go forward. I mean, Johnny got seriously injured by the bowl stone in this one. Um, they are in their fifties. I think it does a really good job. You know, we're living in the age of reboots and sequels to things long, and you know there's a sense that, like, can this really recapture some of the magic? Obviously there there's sadness associated with that. Ryan Donna is no longer with us, um Bam Marja is not a part of the group anymore for various legal reasons. There's a trepidation that, like, is this going to feel you know, weird. I actually just spoke to Johnny Knoxville for a piece UM and I think the word he used, I might be paraphrasing, was like sweaty is just gonna feel like awkward and sweaty, And it really doesn't. That's sort of the sort of amazing thing. They do a good job of incorporating new cast members. Um they have five new cast members without it feeling, you know, sort of like a full passing of the torch. It's still they're the original crew is still getting tortured, just as my Jeff, not more so than the new people. But you know, filling it out with some younger people whose bodies might not be quite as damaged by some of the things they're doing. But it really was I mean, I was laughing, you know, NonStop, smiling ear to ear like the whole time. Was definitely and I loved My My biggest trepidation coming in as someone who has been a fan a long time was the new cast members. It was like, you know, the one thing I really love about Jackass, beyond the stunts, beyond everything stupid and hilarious they do, is just the feeling of being with friends and then being friends and hanging out and that chemistry they have. But I feel like they didn't miss a beat. The newcast were just like super hilarious and wildly charming and is great. Yeah, so I talked. I also talked to Jeff Jamaine for a story, and he was saying that like, you know, they weren't looking for people who were like the gnarliest people. They were looking for people who they'd want to hang out with, because that's so much of the ethos of Jackasses. Like, yes, people are putting themselves to the ringer, but like the actual core a group and there are you know, they torture danger errand and there's like really badly in this movie, and they're you know, they are making fun of each other, but like at the root of it is like a deep love for one another and they wanted to find people who they just wanted to hang out with. Yeah, well still, you know, I know that we have a lot of coverage coming out about the new movie, a lot written by you. Do you want to talk a little bit about you know what we can see on through list right now for people who are interested in the new movie. So we're gonna have a bunch of stuff. UM. I have a sort of introduction to the new cast member that that's out. I'm also writing a piece on the sort of the cinematic legacy of Jackass. I think Jackass is one of those things that, like you sort of I mean, it was my introduction to it too, like you sort of think of it, you know as like just Rose being Rose, dudes being dudes. But it is hugely respected in like the cinophile community. UM. This Thursday, when this episode comes out, there's some marathon screening at the Museum of the Moving Image. Actually, jack As CD premiered at MoMA. UM and the Jackass guys are official artists in MoMA's archive, and they've been screen like repertory screenings around UM New York and elsewhere that are really you know, the cinephiles love Jackass and so it's a piece about that. And then I have an interview with Johnny Knoxville coming up, um, which was very fun. So yeah, I think you can read all of that stuff on thrill list dot com. Well, I appreciate thank you for sharing your thoughts and I'm glad you know, um you came on to talk about Jackass. I will always be willing to talk about Jackass with you if you ever need someone. Yes, yes, definitely, Okay, thanks so big. Thanks to Esther And in addition to her ongoing Jackass coverage on thrill List, she also released a new book this month called Beyond the Best Dressed. It's an illustrated breakdown of ninety years of fashion at the Oscars. Check it out. We have a link in our description. The very funny Jackass Forever is in theaters right now, so go see it. And for the record, you can also find some old Wild Boys clips online. I highly suggest doing so. This show was produced by myself and be a fast, edited and mixed by the other worldly Dean White and Abbey Austria Special thanks to all of My boss is Jim Demiko Megan Kurgh, Brett Kushner, and Emily felt. That's it for us. Put your trade tables up, lead your shoes on, and we'll see you next week. By