Brook Turner from Vision West joins Andrew Urquhart to weigh in on New Zealand's tax debate, questioning why the political conversation has narrowed to a choice between "no new taxes" or cutting essential services, with little discussion of the "nation building" tax is meant to achieve.

Turner argues that investing in community services delivers real economic returns, noting that housing and supporting a rough sleeper is far cheaper long-term than leaving them unsupported, which can cost citizens a million dollars over their lifetime. He contends that cutting programmes to avoid tax rises simply "kicks the can down the road" at greater cost to the nation, and calls for politicians to offer a genuine vision for what New Zealanders' contributions would build, rather than treating tax and generosity as opposing forces.

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